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inkjet
i think you're saying bush did only bad things. right?
well that is a bit one dimensional. for starters, free elections in afghanistan and iraq. that doesn't count for anything?
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
as i'm thinking this over i don't believe i've heard obama say he's taking the military option off the table either. did i miss it?
Posted in: Obama lays down harder line on Iran violence
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inkjet
where do you get your info from? i seriously think you ought to reconsider your sources.
the UN, IAEA and nearly every country on earth thinks iran is using it's energy program to secretly develop weapons. the possibility of taking out those facilities was not taken off the table. how you turn that into wanting to bomb the iranian people is very bizarre indeed.
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inkjet
aren't they are part of the base?
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inkjet
i'm not sure what you're talking about. let's stick to the subject. by putting political, military and economic pressure on the soviet union reagan weakened the regime. giving the dissidents strong vocal support encouraged and inspired them. all over eastern europe they won their freedom. small potatoes for you it sounds.
still i'm not saying that proves the approach will work in iran. but i'm saying it shouldn't be used as an example against the 'cowboy' approach either.
in fact i think both approaches need to work together, the good cop, bad cop routine. if the world's pressure (and it wasn't just the cowboy was it?) weakened the regime obama's approach could be helpful. but i think that would mean supporting the people. bush always expressed his support for the iranian people.
obama was slow off the mark on that front. it's clear, except to his loyalists, that obama should have expressed his strong support sooner. but he seems to have learned something.
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inkjet
you make it sound like they won the cold war. i would think you would want avoid that subject if you are promoting detente.
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
you expect him to admit it? you believe everything the guy says?
yabits,
yes i think obama was put under pressure. most americans wanted a different response than the one he was giving. the republicans raised the issue, called him on it and he came around.
Posted in: Obama lays down harder line on Iran violence
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inkjet
how about you first thank the republicans who pressured him into doing the right thing?
Posted in: Obama lays down harder line on Iran violence
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inkjet
i'm suggesting that the pressure put on iran by many nations (perhaps lead by bush) may have been a factor in making the iranians want to change their president.
iranians want to be part of the mainstream world community. if they felt their president was in the way it could give the opposition an opening.
the inverse could also be true. if obama's message is 'don't worry we will deal with you no matter who is in power and no matter what they do' that could help the regime. it is possible, no?
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
joe,
i'll break it down for you.
Posted in: Republicans accuse Obama of socialism
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inkjet
unless they have free and open elections i think it's fair to say they impose sharia law.
telling people to shut up for criticizing oppression is not very cool. is it?.
Posted in: Obama lays down harder line on Iran violence
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inkjet
your reply is just nonsense. sorry dude.
Posted in: Republicans accuse Obama of socialism
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inkjet
i agree the news conference was for internal consumption. but it was no to appease the rigth wing fanatics it was aimed at the average american. since when does obama care about right wing fanatics?
as to your other points. no one was hated more in iran than saddam. you don't think there are any people there who are thankful to bush for getting rid of him?
if bush had wanted to bomb iran he would have.
if bush had not been so hard on the regime perhaps not so many iranians would feel compelled to get rid of it. marginalizing the regime gave the opposition something to focus on. did you ever consider that?
the people in eastern europe had a different take than yours on the role of reagan in ending the cold war. but then again they had to live through it.
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inkjet
isn't that obama's line? let's remember what he told the country about his stimulus package? if it wasn't passed right away the economy "may never recover." gee what a maniac!
i, like most americans (i posted the poll earlier), think doctors should lead the discussion for making the needed changes to the system. the doctors number one concern is tort reform. obama took it off the table. they booed him for it. see the article about obama's own personal doctor. in all the years he treated obama he only asked him one question about policy. he asked him about tort reform. don't you get the message?
all your accusations and speculation about me are meaningless and pointless. speculating gets the conversation nowhere.
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inkjet
wrong. bush set expectations or conditions on iran before he would sit down with them. obama said he would set those demands aside.
why do liberals always have to insult. does it make you feel smarter?
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
my problem is not with the iranian election per say. my only complaint would be they refused to have monitors and open polling. my problem along here has been with obama's position. again, he makes a big deal about promising not to interfere in muslim countries affairs. he promises not to impose our values. that we won't demand they meet our expectations. then a week later he's condemning them.
i think it was a legitimate position for bush to talk about promoting our values and to demand countries live up to certain standards (even if those expectations were not always met). i think obama wanted to give bush a nice little kick in cairo by declaring he would not be making such demands. a week later he's doing another one of his now all to familiar about faces.
liberals may choose to turn a blind eye to all these flip flops but there are many (even more) dangerous people who won't. these things have significance.
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inkjet
first of all america is certainly not the only country who relies on middle east oil or oil in general. just because wind up picking up the slack doesn't mean it's only our problem. the entire world would be screwed if the oil supply was compromised.
no change in energy policy is going to change that reality in the mid to short term. period.
why do we see muslims threatening to kill artist like rushdie or actually killing van gogh? like it or not this is not just a war over oil but a real holy war and cultural war. in many was europe has a much bigger problem coming on the horizon than we do in the us.
so please don't imply this is simply a problem because americans don't know how to conserve energy. it's a lot more complicated than that.
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
i have a better idea, nuclear power plants. oh yeah, obama opposes those.
but that wouldn't stop the islamofacist from trying control muslim world anyway. would you suggest just letting them do it with out trying to stop them?
because if you do anything, and i mean anything including drawing cartoons, to oppose them you will be a target. would you suggest total appeasement?
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
yeah he's about right now. the problem is he went out of his way to define a different philosophy last week. on the job training?
Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran
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inkjet
sorry i got my signals crossed. i merged you with a different poster.
i think it's great to help people who are suffering. i really do respect that. maybe you will inspire me to do something myself.
i strongly disagree with people who say simply being white makes you guilty of something.
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