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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 08:28PM JST

  likeitis

  Heh. The only thing you missed was the fact that when the shed door is left open, people in the house have a habit of blowing up.

  It was not missed. That happened later. But in expanding the analogy into later years, its perfectly valid to add that point on.

  Wasn't Triumvere referring to the Israeli house being blown up by the Palestinians?

  Triumvere, please set that one straight.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 08:22PM JST

  neverknow2,

  Even 60% of the Palestinians are now blaming Hamas

  Really? So you have been and asked 100% of the people to get this statistic? Or was it given to you by a Jewish owned source??

  Wake up! This was not my statistic or from a Jewish source as far as I know. ProfJuanColePhd stated that 60% of Gaza residents now blame Hamas. Apparently from The Ma'an News Agency. It's Arabic...

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 07:58PM JST

  yawn...

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 06:36PM JST

  SuperLib

  Having a complaint should never be confused with using terrorism as a response to that complaint. Terrorism is never a legitimate option.

  In the case of Hamas, they are firing from Hamas controlled territories into Israeli controlled land. They kidnap soldiers and lob rockets and grenades all the while hiding behind women and children. Hamas, fires Qassam rockets into peoples houses, not aimed at military posts...

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 06:18PM JST

  northlondon, read previous posts. Even 60% of the Palestinians are now blaming Hamas. All this could have been averted if not for the rhetoric and stupidity of Hamas.

  So why the need to kill 480 people for a handful of terrorists?

  Most of the 480 were actually Hamas. Probably at least in the high 300s. It's still not a good statistic. However, you make it sound like Hamas did nothing wrong? They lobbed a couple of thousand rockets and grenades, that's all.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 06:01PM JST

  I wonder what the Palestinians demonstrating on the streets in Canada and the US think now that a majority in Palestine blame Hamas. Even Abbas and Egypt's Mubarak were blaming Hamas.

  Where are the guys that were blaming Israel on this forum? They've sadly left the building... even the Palestinians don't agree with you now.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 05:52PM JST

  Let's not fool ourselves or each other. I may be leaning toward Israel, you may be for Hamas (since it is a political party to some), but we all want the killing to stop. Now, the Palestinians have to get rid of the likes of Hamas themselves. Even Israel will not do it for them.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 05:39PM JST

  ProfJuan, interesting. Now 60% blame Hamas. Now this is what I expect rational people to think like. You blame the guys who had your house blown up and your family killed. Sometimes, it's not about who kicked my butt, it's about who got me into the fight. They same guys who disturbed the wasp nest. I have faith again!!

  Many of you had "answers" for what should be done, like this was a game of Risk. I'm not going to name names, but this is more difficult than 4 or 5 points to make this world a happy place again.

  Many of you never even thought about where the strength lies... in the people, not Hamas! This was where I placed the blame from the beginning and now we will see if there is any chance at halting the fight.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 05:24PM JST

  "This hatred will not end without the destruction of Israel and the Jews."

  That's a rather negative attitude. Why the rush to judgement? I think most people -- if not all -- in the world would be more for at least TRYING to do something before lying down in the middle of the street and giving up. There's clearly a way, but it's going to take a LOT of restraint from both sides of the fence, and a whole lot of patience to boot.

  What are you talking about? Can't you figure out what I'm saying? Maybe it's a metaphor? It's like saying "when hell freezes over." Right? It ain't happening.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 05:06PM JST

  smithinjapan,

  First things first; a cease-fire with international monitors is needed, following which talks on a more permanent cease-fire. After that, who knows? At some point the current borders need to be addressed, and something needs to be decided by BOTH groups, or nothing will ever be solved. Hamas has expressed disagreement towards international monitors, but the way I see it they have no choice but to accept, and it's in their best interests as well. Start with that.

  That a boy, now you're sounding more like likeitis.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 04:54PM JST

  This hatred will not end without the destruction of Israel and the Jews. There will always be terrorists ready to kill any Jew alive in the middle-east. If Israel were to be destroyed, then another Arab nation will control the West Bank and Gaza. The Palestinians will not be free.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 04:19PM JST

  likeitis

  The Israelis used to be terrorists too. They changed. But just because they are no longer terrorists (at least in my opinion) does not suddenly make them right nor does it make them the group to support. I am sorry to have to break this too you as it will destroy you little black and white world, but even a terrorist can have legitimate claims and complaints. But if you understand one thing in this post, understand that I believe both groups are wrong, and I feel obliged to support neither. Why should I? Why do you? Are you lonely or something? Maybe you can invite an Israeli to pitch a tent in your back yard then.

  I agree with some things you say but at the end you say, "Maybe you can invite an Israeli to pitch a tent in your back yard then." If you don't support either why make such a comment? Why didn't you say Palestinian instead? I'm trying to understand your stance. It seems like you support one side more than the other like most of us do.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 03:45PM JST

  smithinjapan, you're not conversing. Let alone making any sense. What I'm sarcastic towards you and you think I'm praising your intelligence (or lack thereof).

  You've been preaching but no we won't join Hamas!

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 02:48PM JST

  Likeitis, it's great to have faith in others, but when you put quotation marks around the word "possibly" it seems quite suspicious. The word in itself is tentative and then the quotation mark... I can see Joey Trebiani misusing the finger quotation mark in one episode of FRIENDS.

  Hamas would "possibly" agree to a ceasefire with Israel if it withdrew from the lands conquered in 1967????!

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 02:39PM JST

  Israel just protecting itself from terrorists did not start the war. Just because a civilian throws a stone but not a grenade does not make him a non-combatants in my book. Next time the same man WILL throw a grenade!

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 02:31PM JST

  Someone mention the Geneva Convention? Kidnapped Israeli soldiers... Hamas is threatening to do this again. I'm sure that's not part of the Geneva "Commandments."

  A text message sent by Hamas’ military wing, Izzedine al-Qassam, said “the Zionists started approaching the trap which our fighters prepared for them.” Hamas said it also broadcast a Hebrew message on Israeli military radio frequencies promising to kill and kidnap the Israeli soldiers.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 02:11PM JST

  Hamas would "possibly" agree to a ceasefire with Israel if it withdrew from the lands conquered in 1967????!

  What the hell is that? A trick? Who the heck is that stupid? Only Hamas!

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 02:05PM JST

  smithinjapan, who said Hamas was a religion? Let's not get so condescending when you can't even read properly! I said Hamas is NOT a religious GROUP!!!!!

  What about the history... you got half of it right. Isreal won the 6 day war! They made a quick job of it too. Did you hear how savage the Palestinians were as well? Cutting penises of Jewish soldiers and shoving them in their mouths? They took pictures to show to their families. How thoughtful and heart warming??? What the hell do you know. If being condescending and misinformation is your deal, I don't buy any of it!

  HelterSkelter is right! Hamas is to blame for everything. The other Arab neighbours don't care because this is not about religion. I'd be ashamed as heck if my Christian brothers acted like terrorists. Little children with temper tantrums 'cause they can't get what they want. Arabs in the region didn't even care for the land because it was a desert... until the Israelis made an oasis of it (the best desalination plants in the world at that time).

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 01:40PM JST

  Hamas is NOT a religious group. Even good muslims condemn suicide and killing. There is no religion in "Palestine" as long as Palestinians support Hamas. Hamas wants money, power and sympathy. They'll make a wall of civilians to protect their themselves to make their means...

  Hamas DID start this present conflict by firing rockets at Israel after the end of the last ceasefire. Now Hezbollah may try their bullshit in the north. If Isreal defends itself against Hezbollah then smithinjapan and buttamimi will also blame Isreal of course.

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  jackseoulJan. 04, 2009 - 12:54PM JST

  I live in Canada. If a few Americans lobbed a bunch of homemade rockets into Canada I would be pissed no matter how far it lands in my back yard!!! My pals and I would be slinging hockey sticks and pucks ready to invade Buffalo!!!

  Now, tell me why the Israelis have to watch themselves murdered by suicide bombers and tin rockets? Hamas is the weird smelly kid in primary school that calls you names, gets beat up and then he's back calling you names again only to get beat up again!!

  Don't you get it? Hamas started all this!!!! They have the North Korea Syndrome, where they start talks and then cuts out so the international community can give them $$$$ to restart talks.

  Hide behind your women and children and beat your chests and cry foul! Cowards and beggars to the dying end!

  You want action? How 'bout some Israelis suicide bombers? That should have them shitting their already soiled pants!

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