Thursday February 16, 2012

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    kinniku

    As I wrote earlier, The fact is, there are extremists in all religions. That does not mean they represent their faiths. The concern comes from a lack of strong consistent criticism from mainstream Muslims to these kinds of threats. Mainstream Muslims need to publically display their dissatisfaction with their religion being hijacked in the way al-Quaeda has hijacked Islam.

    Well, now western oil companies have all of Iraq's oil

    That is not correct. In a recent Iraq auction of oil deals, the deals were largely snapped up by the Russians and Chinese. The Uniteds States was noticably absent and did not get those deals.

    The pipelines planned for Afghanistan are coming along anything but nicely. Most projects were given up long before 2001 because of the security situation. That situation has not improved.

    Remember Dubai?

    Yup. I also remember that, as of yet, only Palestinians have been arrested.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida leader in Yemen threatens new U.S. attacks

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    kinniku

    That's so funny John, good one!

    Not nearly as hilarious as when a small number of people claim Israel was involved.

    it seems Bush accomplished his assignment of getting Iraq and Afghanistan

    I don't know what news you are watching. However, neither country is 'gotten' by any stretch of the imagination.

    To suggest the US is somehow behind al-Quaeda attacks is equally hilarious. The US government can't keep a cocktail dress secret never mind something as fantastic as attacks supposedly made to look like al-Quaeda.

    The fact is, there are extremists in all religions. That does not mean they represent their faiths. The concern comes from a lack of strong consistent criticism from mainstream Muslims to these kinds of threats.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida leader in Yemen threatens new U.S. attacks

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    kinniku

    Just curious what problems you foresaw.

    Maybe something like the other soldiers would be jealous at the fact that the gay married couple can share uniforms?

    Posted in: Top U.S. Army, Air Force warn against lifting gay ban too quickly

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    kinniku

    The 'holly land', huh? That is some start to your JT posting career.

    Posted in: Palestinian president warns of 'religious war'

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    kinniku

    these guys only pretend to be Muslims

    Yeah, sure. Like the Taliban.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida leader in Yemen threatens new U.S. attacks

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    kinniku

    All you have to do to circumvent this 'security' is walk or take a taxi to your destination.

    Not if your intention is to do damage on/in the subway.

    Posted in: New ticket gate that checks for explosives tested at Akihabara station

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    kinniku

    Can it check for gropers as well?

    Posted in: New ticket gate that checks for explosives tested at Akihabara station

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    kinniku

    Segregate them or don't. This good for one but not for the other system is lousy.

    Posted in: ANA to offer women-only lavatories on international routes

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    kinniku

    Great. Now the two sides can get in an uproar about something else instead of actually talking to each other about peace.

    Posted in: Palestinian president warns of 'religious war'

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    kinniku

    Interesting. In January of this year, the Yemen Interior Ministry claimed Qasim al-Raimi had been killed along with four of his lieutenants. Supposedly, it was confirmed that he was dead. Oops! I guess not.

    Posted in: Al-Qaida leader in Yemen threatens new U.S. attacks

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    kinniku

    Sorry: along=alone

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    IvanCoughalot,

    Who knows who will be standing along or not in the future? As I wrote, this fleet of drones is not only capable of offensive operations. Iran's missiles are. Were you complaining as equally about them and Iran's comments about Israel's destruction?

    As I wrote, why doesn't Iran just say they are committed to peace with Israel and that they do not want to go to war with Israel? That would stop an awful lot of sabre-rattling in the Middle East.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    Its not a question of getting land.

    Of course it is. Fatah would like the West Bank and Gaza. At this point, Hamas would like that plus all of Israel.

    What the international community, the UN, the International Court of Justice and the rest of the world understand is that there must be negotiations towards peace. The idea is not new: Land for Peace.

    You seem totally against this idea. However, that is the Palestinians' only choice. Make peace and get their country or don't make peace and things stay the way they are. Details of the arrangement would need to be decided during negotiations.

    Arafat wanted to make peace, but Israel would not let him.

    Incorrect.

    That is a fact.

    No, it is not.

    Israel has made peace and traded land for peace. The prececent is there. It is up to the Palestinians to take advantage of this precedent.

    Posted in: Blair: Israel-Palestinian peace talks to resume

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    kinniku

    IvanCoughalot,

    There is a difference between playing the victim and not wanting to be a victim again. Israel has specifically stated that they do not want a war with Iran. Iran has not specifically stated that they do not want a war with Israel. Rather Khamenei has said even as late as this month that it is up to Muslim countries as to how long it will take for the destruction of Israel. Instead of this kind of inflamatory language. Why doesn't Iran just make peace? They have nothing to lose.

    This drone has many capabilities, not all of which are merely offensive. The missiles Iran has developed that they say can reach Israel are offensive weapons only.

    As to your comments yesterday, if you read enough you will see that often there is a sad connection between being anti-Israel and also denying the Holocaust, claiming Jews control the western media and governments etc. In fact, try reading a newspaper in many parts of the Middle East. It is standard fare. That is not to say you feel that way or to say that people cannot or should not criticize Israel. They can and should. However, I think it is not unreasonable to also consider the geopolitical situation in the Middle East when considering Israeli actions. Most of the countries in the Middle East are in fact at war with Israel. MIf they were not and were really working for peace in the region, all the countries would be behaving in a much more cooperative and peaceful way toward each other and the Palestinians (particularly Hamas) would be more encouraged to negotiate with Israel for peace.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    There are no serious scholars who support that.

    It is a fact. Arafat never was ready to accept a peace deal.

    Posted in: Blair: Israel-Palestinian peace talks to resume

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    kinniku

    Exactly, because Israel does not want to negotiate

    Please re-read what I wrote. Negotiations first, then the Palestinians get their state. If what you say is true and that it is not negotiable that they should get land first, then there will be no negotiations. However, this will not be because Israel does not want to negotiate. It will be because the Palestinians share your opinion and do not want to negotiate.

    Returning to its pre-1967 border is the minimum Israel must do.

    No, it is not the 'minimum'. It is not even decided that they must return to the exact borders. That is not what the resolution says.

    Even the International Court of Justice ruled that the land taken in 1967 belongs to the Palestinians;

    Ironically, before that when it was occupied by Jordan and Egypt, no one said anything. So, because of Israel taking over those territories, the Palestinians have their first chance at a nation. Thanks to Israel.

    it is expanding and stealing more because they do not want peace.

    The borders of the area have not changed. Settlements in Gaza and Sinai have been dismantled and given back in return for peace deals. Since the Palestinians, as a united people, cannot manage to negotiate for the same kind of peace, they have not gotten land nor have they gotten the settlements dismantled. History shows us clearly that Israel has been willing to trade land for peace and that peace continues to this day.

    Hamas has signaled that it is willing to recognize Israel within its pre-1967 border.

    They have also signaled an unwillingness to recognize Israel within its pre-1967 borders. In addition, they have never said they would be willing to have a true peace, instead they merely bleat on about 10 year truces that they would only consider after getting all the land they desire back. After 10 years, it would then be open season on Israel again. I know this policies causes salivation amongst some. However, it is not a way toward peace. It is a continuation of what we have had so far.

    Posted in: Blair: Israel-Palestinian peace talks to resume

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    kinniku

    Well, we know they (US/Israel) are itching to attack Iran.

    We do not know this at all. In fact, we know the very opposite of this. Israel says clearly they don't want to make war with Iran. There is an article that describes this clearly right here on JT. The US says clearly they do not want war with Iran. It is time for Iran to say the same thing about Israel specifically and clearly and stop funding their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. Then neither will have any fear of the other.

    This drone is perfect for this purpose.

    This drone is a weapon, much like Iran's recently developed and announced missiles are weapons. However, drones can do more than just attack. The same cannot be said of missiles.

    And we know Israel will love to have the US do its dirty work, as usual.

    Israel took out Iraq's nuclear capability. When Israel chooses to act, they act. They have shown they do not need the US to act for them. However, Israel says clearly they don't want to make war with Iran. The US says clearly they do not want war with Iran. It is time for Iran to say the same thing about Israel specifically and clearly and stop funding their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. Until they do, it is only Iran that is fear-mongering and talking of the destruction of Israel.

    if the US is intentionally attacked by Israel again

    It was an accident in a time of war where Israel's very existence was at stake.

    they won't have a fake investigation concluding that it was an accident.

    It was an accident in a time of war where Israel's very existence was at stake. After the accident, the Israeli ships went back to assist the USS Liberty.

    Moderator: Readers, no further references to the USS Liberty please.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    The USS Liberty has nothing to do with this discussion. It was an accident of war, the Israeli ships went back to assist the USS Liberty. The US did not send any nuclear bombs to bomb Cairo. Israel had informed the US within two hours of the incident.

    Again, off topic, but Afaghinstan harbored al-Quaeda, the people responsible for 911. 911 had nothing to do with Israel.

    If Israel loses a war on its on territory, it is finished. That is why weaspons such as this are still needed. Were countries in the Middle East to decide to make peace with Israel and encourage the Palestinians to do the same, there would be no need for fear in the Middle East.

    Iran has nothing to fear if they would just say they want to make peace with Israel. They have no reason not to make peace with Israel. Israel says they don't want to make war with Iran. It is time for Iran to say the same thing and stop funding their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. Then neither will have any fear of the other.

    Claims of both the US and Israel false flags and starting wars against themselves are merely fantastic tangents that may (or may not) make interesting novels. However, they are not part of the real world of reality.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    Considering Israel's very long history of false flags

    Israel does not have a long history of 'false flags'.

    BTW, the USS Liberty was an accident of war in a war that Israel could not afford to lose. Israel could not afford to err on the side of defeat. There would have been no coming back from that. This is still true today. If Israel loses a war on its on territory, it is finished. That is why weaspons such as this are still needed. Were countries in the Middle East to decide to make peace with Israel and encourage the Palestinians to do the same, there would be no need for fear in the Middle East.

    Iran has nothing to fear if they would just say they want to make peace with Israel. They have no reason not to make peace with Israel. Israel says they don't want to make war with Iran. It is time for Iran to say the same thing and stop funding their proxies Hamas and Hezbollah. Then neither will have any fear of the other.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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    kinniku

    Israel just goes ahead and does it,

    Israel has never destroyed another country. If it were allowed to live in peace, it would have no wars against other countries either. Jordan and Egypt have learned that peace with Israel means a lasting peace. In Egypt's case it got a whole lot of land for it too.

    Iran does not attack other countries.

    They have attacked and still are attacking Israel both verbally and physically. They sponsor both Hezbollah and Hamas and as Iran's proxies these two groups wage war against Israel to this day.

    In your Telegraph and Haaretz quotes, you have not shown proof yet of Mossad involvement. You have shown allegations. That is not the same thing. As I said before, I admit it is possible that Mossad is involved. However, there is no proof as of yet. There are merely allegations by unnamed sources.

    Yes, yes, the others are always the aggressors, Israel is only defending itself

    The countries at war with Israel are at war with Israel by their own choice. Israel did not decide to be at war with them first. They decided to be at war with Israel. In that sense, yes, Israel is only defending itself.

    The truth is that these "wars" have practically always been started by Israel.

    No, that is incorrect.

    "Few, inside Israel or elsewhere, seriously doubt that, given the target and methods, this was a Mossad, or Mossad-directed, hit. The Dubai police chief, Lt Gen Dahi Khalfan, says he is “99 per cent” sure."

    We are not talking about who has doubts or not. We are talking about whether there is specific tangible proof as of yet. From what you have quoted, there is not. Not yet, anyway.

    I worry about what these drones will be used for.

    Then I would suggest you get on the make peace with Israel side and you won't have to worry about how they would have been used.

    Do you realize what you have just stated? Hint: Israel is often called the Jewish state.

    Are you or are you not aware that Iran is a theocratic (Islamic) republic? Not aware, I guess.

    Israel has stated specifically and clearly that they do not want to make war with Iran, using Iran's name specifically. Iran, on the other hand, even as late as this month, continues with talk of encouraging the destruction of Israel. This month Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said that 'Israel’s obliteration is certain'. In January of this year, Khamenei had this peaceful message for Israel, the Middle East and the world: "Definitely, the day will come when nations of the region will witness the destruction of the Zionist regime," Khamenei was quoted as saying. "How soon or late (Israel's demise) will happen depends on how Islamic countries and Muslim nations approach the issue." Also, from recent Reuters headlines: "IAEA fears Iran working now on nuclear warhead".

    One country, specifically names Iran and says they do not want war with them. Another country, Iran, specifically talks about Israel and suggests it should not exist and further encourages other countries to make it happen and goes further by sponsoring Hamas and Hezbollah who have sworn to destroy Israel.

    Posted in: Israel unveils new drone fleet that can reach Iran

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