Thursday February 16, 2012

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    kinniku

    If they were indeed 'assets', it is certainly conceivable that they would not know for whom they were working. However, this seems to sloppy to me to be the work of an intelligence agency. Too many people and too easily spotted. While it certainly seems to be nothing less than the work of professionals, it does seem more like some sort of organized crime professionals.

    Posted in: Dubai says Hamas man killed by European hit squad

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    kinniku

    knackerz,

    Recruitment amongst intelligence agencies is often used to get 'local talent'. Most 'assets' that are recruited by intelligence agencies are the most regular of people. The makes them the best of assets as the blend into their surroundings. It is certainly possible that some of these people involved in this started out that way.

    Posted in: Dubai says Hamas man killed by European hit squad

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    kinniku

    It is interesting to see so much focus on the countries of the passports on which the hit squad traveled. It seems to me that it is common sense that whether these people were working for a government agency, organized crime or whatever, that they would be using doctored passports or traveling under aliases if the reason for entering the country was specifically to assasinate al-Mabhouh. So, it really would not matter what country the passports were under. The fact that they were all not passports from the same country also makes sense as they would not want to be seen as being together. This holds true for traveling seperately and staying in seperate hotels.

    Considering al-Mabhouh was a senior Hamas military commander and one of the founders of the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades and that he had never been involved with anything resembling charity work or help for the needy in his positions with Hamas, it is highly unlikely his work in Dubai had anything to do with importing much needed medicines.

    Posted in: Dubai says Hamas man killed by European hit squad

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    kinniku

    The quote I provided above is exactly what he said when asked about the "wipe Israel off the map".

    Exactly. Thank you. He did not refute it. He did not say, 'No, I did not mean that. Iran would never suggest Israel should be wiped off the face f the earth.' He went off on a tangent and never answered the question directly even after it was repeated several times. Also, Khamenei's quotes from this year certainly make it clear that popular interpretations, including that of Iran's own governmental news agency, the IRNA, of Ahmadinejad's comments four and a half years ago were also correct.

    It is not up to Iran to decide which countries get to stay and which countries disappear in the region. Israel is a legitimate UN recognized country and Iran must to recognize it as such. Khamenei's recent comments about Israel and Iran's continued sponsoring of Hamas and Hezbollah, who both have as their goals the destruction of Israel, leave no doubt as to Iran's intentions. In this case, both Iran's actions and word speak extremely loudly and clearly. If Iran would like to really start helping the Palestinians, it is time they stop encouraging violence on the part of Hamas and Hezbollah and started encouraging real talks for real peace between Israel and Palestine side-by-side.

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    Just to add, in January of this year, Khamenei had this peaceful message for Israel, the Middle East and the world: "Definitely, the day will come when nations of the region will witness the destruction of the Zionist regime," Khamenei was quoted as saying. "How soon or late (Israel's demise) will happen depends on how Islamic countries and Muslim nations approach the issue."

    So, there certainly is no doubt as to the attitude of the government of Iran toward Israel and it is certainly not to encourage peace. This is probably why Iran finds it hard to find countries in the Middle East that feel they are safe to be around nuclear weapons or the possibility of nuclear weapons. I can see how these countries might feel this way.

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    As most rational people know, Ahmadinejad has never refuted what the Iranian Republic News Agency reported him saying and has never specifically claimed he was misquoted, misunderstood or that he meant something very peaceful and different. This is the leader of a country suggesting another country disappear and then supporting groups, Hamas and Hezbollah, which are actively trying to destroy Israel and have that as part of their charter. However, it is also interesting to note that Ayatollah Ali Khamenei saying that'Israel’s obliteration is certain' does not help peace in the region either.

    So, on one side we have Iran saying that a fellow Middle Eastern country's obliteration is certain and backing this up with support for groups seeking to obliterate said country. On the other hand, we have Israel saying if you attempt to build weapons to use against us we will destroy them (not your country, but the weapons). If Iran would like to be seen as a peaceful neighbor in the Middle East, toning down the obliteration rhetoric would go a long way in doing so.

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    Sadly for anyone attempting to defend the present Iranian government neither the Iranian government's recents calls to other Muslim countries to work together to attempt to destroy Israel nor the Iranian government's admittions that they sponsor both Hamas and Hezbollah 'alleged'. They are facts and are confirmed by the Iranian government's own words.

    Let's not forget that this article is about Iran and not about Israel, which is a country that has nothing to do with Iran and about which Iran should not be making suggestions of destruction or supporting groups that only make peace in the Middle East that much more difficult.

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    It is obvious that one of the main reasons for suspicion against Iran and not Israel in this regard is that Israel's government has not talked about working to make another country 'disappear' as Iran's has done. Iran has admitted to sponsoring both Hamas and Hezbollah and has encouraged other Muslim countries to work together to bring about the destruction of Israel. These cdrtainly do not seem like the words or actions of a country looking for peace. It is interesting to note that, except for Iran, no other nation mentioned in the article has a government that has suggested that another nation be destroyed.

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    I never like the Olympics...

    No, waitaminute, I love the Olympics, especially the complaining.

    Posted in: Canada's French-English strife flares at Olympics

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    kinniku

    Of course, it is quite well known that the government has and continues to encourage the idea of destroying the state of Israel. Recently, Iranian leaders have repeated this idea quite clearly. It is an irresponsible thing to state as a the government of a country. In addition, Iran sponsors both Hamas and Hezbollah in their efforts to destroy the state of Israel. Iran should really worry about its own affairs and stop encouraging attempts to destroy Israel. Then people would not say they are trying to wipe Israel off the map.

    According to this very article, it seems there are plenty of other countries in the Middle East aside from Israel that are plenty concerned about Iran's nuclear ambitions. Again, the fact that they sponsor groups trying to destroy a Middle Eastern country probably factor greatly in their fears. The IAEA remains concerned about Iran's nuclear program as well as is demonstrated in their reports about Iran:

    "As detailed in the Director General’s previous reports to the Board (most recently in GOV/2009/55, para. 18), there remain a number of outstanding issues which give rise to concerns, and which need to be clarified to exclude the existence of possible military dimensions to Iran’s nuclear programme."

    Posted in: U.S. seeks to shore up support for tough Iran stance

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    kinniku

    I think these are quite amazing images. I would imagine the heart of the officer who took them skipped many a beat while he witness this tragedy first hand, as did those of us who happened to see it live on TV here in Japan.

    bushlover, There are a few people who cling to a couple of mistakes in identity with completely different people with the same names, reported in the media, made in the confusing days after the attacks and attempt to turn them into something they are not. This seems to be where that particular mistaken belief comes from. It is quite clear to anyone that the hijackers are dead.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    LOL!

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    If you do not understand the meaning of MIC in this context

    Ummm...google it. Military industrial complex does not come up readily. You could have answered the question the first time it was asked.

    That would explain why you NEVER seem to understand my posts

    No, it is because they generally make little or no sense. As in your contributions here.

    it also explains why you are unaware of the 7-8 alleged hijackers who are still alive

    Where were they found and when specifically? Where are they right now? Betcha cannot answer that.

    Ry Dawson

    Nah. I am not very interested in racist nuts. Thanks anyway.

    you should understand how the major news networks are connected to the MIC (military-industrial complex) through their board of directors.

    Lemme guess...and they are all connected to Israel and Israel is connected to Jews and that is why we should be looking for how many Jews are in the media and governments...yeah, yeah, yeah...we've heard you spout this before and it still is as incorrect as it ever was.

    Notice that I used the word "serious" when I stated

    Ah, I see. You meant to ask why they don't have any nuts on their news. Well, generally people don't take nuts seriously. Does that answer your question?

    Anyway, I know you cannot back up what you write. You have never been able to and, in this thread, you continue your tradition.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    Its only when he decides to make a movie of a western leader who many view as a war criminal (Blair) that the US go after him, maybe to try to influence the final version.

    Except, that is not what his movie is about. Sorry. Wrong again. His arrest has nothing to do with movies.

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    kinniku

    The fact is, 7 or 8 of the alleged hijackers have been confirmed alive and well.

    Nope. I don't believe you. Simple answer, please. Where are these people you claim are alive and what is the specific proof of this?

    Do I have to explain everything

    LOL! You still did not explain it. What does a microphone have to do with anything?

    They are connected via their board of directors

    Connected to what? What are you on about? You really need to go out sometimes and get some fresh air.

    Anyway, its in ABC's financial interest to have wars.

    Well, that is certainly misleading. It is in any news agency's interest to have news. That is the end of that.

    That explains why they don't have many/any serious anti-war peolpe on.

    A simple google of 'anti war on ABC news' shows you to be incorrect again.

    It may also explain why they are showing these pictures NOW

    Yes, it could also foretell the arrival of aliens. However, neither explanation is realistic or makes much sense.

    just in time for the next war, maybe against Iran.

    Yeah, also maybe alien invasions. Keep guessing. You might get one right.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    Of course, in the above, I am referring to the photos, not videos.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    Could be that said country's government has not talked about working to make another country 'disappear' as Iran's has done.

    Posted in: Iran boosts nuclear enrichment, drawing warnings

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    kinniku

    But why don't they also release the images that would let us see what hit the Pentagon?

    Images taken by whom? To which specific images are you referring?

    connected with the MIC

    Connected with the microphone? What are you talking about?

    ABC will do its part since it is, as are the other MSM, connected with the MIC. They will never let anything out that will spoil their chance at making big bucks with the war. And Associated Press is also doing its part with this article to help publicize the pictures and the museum.

    You are rambling. News agencies report on thing in which they think people have an interest. Even after all these years, people are interested in this event. This is natural because of its size. As noted in the article, this video was taken privately. Once made public, of course news agencies are going to show it. Again, there is no need to dream up conspiracies to explain it. Human nature and human curiosity explain why it is being shown.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    And other recognizable things from the planes were also found far from the rubble, like the eight or so hijackers who were found alive and well after 911.

    LOL. Yeah, I hear they were hanging out with Elvis Presley and having some beers just last week...Where were they found and when specifically? Betcha cannot answer that.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    Hmmm, just in time for the next attack, perhaps? Iran? Yemen? Pakistan?

    And, if you are wrong again, as you most certainly will be, what will it mean, hmmm? I am sure there are still lots more unreleased personal photos of lots of events that were filmed and photographed. That does not mean there has to be a nutty conspiracy theory behind them when someone decides to make them public.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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