Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    kinniku

    Ry Dawson and Christopher Bollyn

    Something 'clearly explained' by racist nuts is nothing explained at all.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    I'd like to see some conclusive evidence that a passport can leave what was presumably someone's pocket, fly through a huge fire ball and collision at several hundreds of miles per hour.....and then glide through the air and go on to land more or less unscathed near to where the towers once stood for the FBI to scoop it up in a miraculously short time after millions of tons of rubble hit Ground Zero.

    How do you know it happened exactly this way? For example: how do you know the passport was in someone's pocket when impact occured? Again, I do not want to get graphic, but many recognizable things from the planes were discovered near the rubble.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    As to the passport of one of the terrorists found near the rubble, there were lots of other recognizable things from the planes that were also found near the rubble.

    Grafton,

    Good succinct post.

    Posted in: Newly released aerial 9/11 NYPD photos show WTC collapse

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    kinniku

    The "International community" should save their sanctions for nations that are not allowing inspections, are not member of the NPT, and have an active nuclear WEAPONS program.

    This article is about Iran, not North Korea.

    Posted in: Iran boosts nuclear enrichment, drawing warnings

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    kinniku

    Nah. I doubt people rightly complaining years ago about Jackson's anti-semitic lyrics had anything to do with him regularly asking for and being given highly addictive and dangerous medications and him eventually dying from said medications.

    Posted in: Michael Jackson's doctor pleads not guilty

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    kinniku

    jonobugs,

    Interesting. I don't know much about sheep skin. If that is the case, they should probably call it a 'sheep skin wrist rest' rather than wool as wool sounds like it would itch.

    Posted in: Wool wrist rest

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    kinniku

    Doesn't it itch?

    Posted in: Wool wrist rest

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    kinniku

    In addition to the distasteful content, the writing in Mein Kampf is indeed horrible and while people say it sells well in the Middle East, I highly doubt very many people finish it.

    Posted in: Historians hope to publish 'Mein Kampf' in Germany

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    kinniku

    TumbleDry,

    Same here. Well said.

    Posted in: Historians hope to publish 'Mein Kampf' in Germany

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    kinniku

    Interestingly, Imalu's name stands for 'Live for the moment'. Cute woman.

    Posted in: Imalu suits up for Aoyama

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    kinniku

    sabiwabi,

    I think I have been extremely accurate in describing your opinions that have been written here. Interestingly, as always, you do not, describe where I have been mistaken. In your written opinions, Israel is always 100 percent wrong. This is not only incorrect, it is an unrealistic and counterproductive way of thinking.

    As to Finklestein, you gave examples in January 2009 of two times when Israel supposedly break ceasefires in the 80's and I showed you your examples were incorrect. In one case, the PLO in Lebanon and Israel had a ceasefire, but attacks by the PLO continued from Jordan and the West Bank and when Israel responded, the PLO accused them of breaking the ceasefire.So, I did prove my statements perfectly. You left the discussion after that, as you are want to do when you have been shown to be incorrect.

    Anyway, the Palestinians have been waiting for 6 decades to be treated like humans.

    The world has been waiting six decades for the Palestinians and the Israelis to negotiate for real peace. You use Finklestein as an (incorrect as it turns out) example, however, in none of the incorrect examples Finklestein presents are the two sides actually negotiating for peace.

    So how many Gazans need to be assassinated before they respond? 2? 5? 20? 200?

    Both sides have murdered each other and both sides need to stop. Look at this article. Floating bombs and rockets? Do you think these kinds of actions will end the six decades of Palestinian suffering? Repeating over and over that the Palestinians are suffering does not change the fact that Hamas' actions only make the Palestinians suffer more.

    Do you expect them to sit there and negotiate while Israel continues illegal settlements, assassinating Palestinians, restricting the entry of vital material, preventing dying Palestinians freedom to access medical treatment.

    They don't have a choice. Hamas' charter clearly describes the group's desire to destroy Israel. Hamas has never been willing to negotiate for a true peace. Of course, nothing will change if Hamas does not change. Again, things are worse in Gaza because of Hama and the actions on the part of Hamas aligned militants described in this article. Just because you agree with the charter does not mean it is the best thing for the Palestinians.

    So, yes, I expect Hamas to finally say, 'We are willing to negotiate for a real peace.' If Israel does not respond to such a sincere move on Hamas' part, it would then be Israel's fault.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    Yeah, you should wonder why you never see them.

    The reason why we never see them is simple. At present, Hamas is not acting responsibly nor are they acting intelligently and this, sadly, has been true since they came to be elected as representatives of their people. The actions described in this article, floating bombs on the part of militants aligned with Hamas, are not intelligent, nor are they the acts of people who take their leadership roles responsibly. Just because you agree with Hamas' charter does not mean it is intelligent and reasonable.

    As to your constant repeating of Finklestein, we have already confirmed what you wrote was false. The treaties Finklestein refers to were broken by the Palestinians, not the Israelis. You claim Palestinians have made attempts at peace many times, yet when questioned about it, your answers point toward situations in which it actually was the Palestinians that broke truces and ceasefires.

    Of course, Israel has also been at fault at times. Netanyahu's ridiculous statements reported here on JT that he intended (I am paraphrasing as I don't have the article in front of me) for Israel to remain in parts of the West Bank even after a Palestinian state is formed. The fact is both sides (Israel and the Palestinian Authority) admit there will be land swaps in any final deal to make both nations secure and to make the borders more natural. However, that kind of talk is best reserved for when the sides are actually negotiating.

    As to the war last year, no one can deny that the Gazan War was a massive failure in pretty much every way for Israel. It had little effect on Hamas or the rockets, it caused way too many civilian deaths and injuries and it has not really made Israel more secure. In addition, both sides have been accused of war crimes and, in the case of Hamas, they were against their own people.

    Now, let's take a look at your personal arguments against Israel. Are they rational and reasonable? Do they truly take the Palestinian people's interests and futures at heart, or are they merely rages against Israel. I think it is the latter. You see, the main problem with your arguments is that you do not believe in a two state solution. You do not think Israel's has a right to exist. Your ONLY solution is for Israel to disappear somehow. The thing is, it is not realistic. Israel does exist and will for quite some time. Palestinians can keep waiting for Israel to disappear, or they can negotiate for a two state solution. Neither side is going to be completely happy, but that is the only choice available to them. Now, I know you are going to come back with one of your 'If a mugger takes your wallet, you don't let them keep it.' line of reasoning. However, that line of reasoning, which Hamas seems to share has made life immeasurably worse for the Palestinians in Gaza. This is a fact. These floating bombs will in no way, shape or form help the Palestinians in Gaza. You can argue that they have 'no choice' until you are blue in the face. However, until the Palestinians as a united people actually say they believe in a two state solution to a real peace, they will not have the peace they deserve.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    Helter Skelter and Madverts,

    I certainly understand what you are saying about self responsibility. However, these three individuals were not really in Iraq. They were in Kurdistan, which is a very different place than Iraq. There are many expats working and teaching there and, for the most part, Westerners are respected and welcomed with open arms. Information about the area is readily available.

    You do have a point that strolling anywhere near the Iranian border should give anyone cause to pause just as it should have given that couple kidnapped in Somalia (whatever happened to them?) pause. However, the reality is that these three people were in Kurdistan, not Iraq and they made a much more understandable mistake than, for example, the British couple you mentioned.

    Helter Skelter,

    I am sure the State Department would have made the decision first. It is impossible for any president to micromanage everything. However, if Obama did not like that decision, he would not have approved it. It was his to approve or disapprove.

    Posted in: Clinton says no prisoner swap with Iran

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    kinniku

    sabiwabi,

    Of course what I wrote is true. It always is. Your source does NOT say a tunne did NOT exist, BTW. So, I am not sure how relying on it answers any question on that point.

    I guess you're right then; there are absolutely no valid reasons to tunnel...

    Of course I am write as I wrote there is no reason to tunnel INTO ISRAEL.

    As to your cut and paste, I have never ever said the situation in Gaza was anything but horrible. In fact, I have correctly pointed out several times that it has gotten immeasurably worse since Hamas came to power and that this is a direct result of Hamas' actions.

    Now, as I have written already, this actions on the part of Hamas and Hamas aligned militants continue to endanger the civilian population of Gaza today with such ridiculously dangerous things such as is the subject of this article: floating bombs and shooting rockets. Have these actions helped Gazans or improved their lives? No. Can you justify them as having done so? No.

    collective punishment is against international law.

    I agree. So, Hamas should probably stop acting violently shooting rockets and floating bombs and should actually do something to help their population. Although you see nothing wrong with actions such as described in this article, intelligent people know absolutely nothing good of them will come to the Palestinian people. It is about time Hamas and its affiliates did things to did result in true benefits to their people and make true efforts toward true peace.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    Ah, the good'ol "simple search shows". Funny how that response never seems to be good enough when I use it...

    It is not good enough when you use it because a search does not bring up the results you claim. In contrast, my claims are backed up by a simple search. Search, then make your claim that I am mistaken that both Hamas and Carter did in fact acknowledge the tunnel's existence.

    You are wrong. They have for years had plenty of legitimate reasons for building tunnels. They also "smuggle" things such food, medicines, tobacco, and much more.

    Ahh...now I get it. The reason you can't search the internet about the November 2008 tunnel is a reading problem. None of the things you suggest would be the result of tunneling INTO Israel. So, again, you are incorrect. The only reason for tunneling INTO Israel is a violent one and this is proven by the exact reasons I have already listed above.

    No, I am just saying that I have only seen comments saying that that is what Israel claims,

    Well, it is obvious you are having trouble reading and using the internet. Hamas and Carter acknowledge the tunnel. If you are so convinced you are correct about the lack of a tunnel? Find me a Hamas source denying the existence of a tunnel there. My sources are Hamas and Carter and, although I disagree with both on many occasions, I believe they are telling the truth in this case and, as such, are much more trustworthy than your protestations.

    Could very well be true, I just haven't seen anything that convinced me it must be true. And I certainly haven't seen anything to prove they had bad intentions IF indeed they did build tunnels.

    Then this can only lead a logical person to assume you have reading difficulties as I have shown both that tunnels have been used for weapons and that they have been used to capture an Israeli soldier. In addition, you have not shown any other logical reason for tunneling INTO Israel. Do you think Hamas was planning a little picnic on the Israeli side and was just misunderstood? What do you think Hamas was planning to do on the Israeli side? Have a party? Please enlighten us. However, you claims of 'food, medicines, tobacco, and much more' do not match with tunneling INTO Israel.

    Really, if they did that, the rockets would stop IMMEDIATELY!

    Since Hamas does not want to negotiate with Israel for a real peace, since even during the 2008 ceasefire rockets were fired at Israel, since Hamas' charter states their intention to destroy Israel and since you don't even know Hamas and Carter acknowledged the November 2008 tunnel, how would you have any idea what Hamas would or would not do?

    Hamas needs to give up their militant ways and declare their intention to work toward real peace between Israel and Palestinians. If Israel rejected true offers of peace, Israel would then be at fault. However, this is not the case, no matter how many times you attempt to misrepresent the facts. Hamas puts its OWN people in danger by its actions. Hamas has even STOLEN food meant for its own people. How can Palestinians continue to put up with such horrible leadership?

    These floating bombs are a perfect example of how senseless Hamas and Hamas aligned militant actions are.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    Hamas gangsters want nothing more than grief for their citizens.

    The absolutely sad thing is Hamas' and Hamas aligned militant groups' actions say exactly this.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    sabiwabi,

    You are rambling. There is no need for me to cut and paste link after link to information that should be right at your finger-tips. Both Hamas and Jimmy Carter did in fact acknowledge the tunnel's existence. A simple search shows this to be true. Simples searches also easily reveal past uses for such tunnels that I have briefly explained; smuggling, storing and practicing with weapons and capturing an Israeli soldier. Again, they had NO reason to tunnel INTO Israel except violent reasons.

    You are so convinced you are correct about the lack of a tunnel? Find me a Hamas source denying the existence of a tunnel there. My sources are Hamas and Carter and, although I disagree with both on many occasions, I believe they are telling the truth in this case and, as such, are much more trustworthy than your protestations.

    What I know is Hamas' way of conducting their affairs have continued to make life even worse for Gazans. Even you had to admit (you hated doing that I know) that Palestinians were happy when Israel left and all sides thought this boded well for peace in the region. Hamas messed that up and continues to do so.

    It is the Palestinians that have more to lose if things continue as they have. Hamas needs to ignore the voices within and without that would continue to encourage rockets, floating bombs or other useless acts that have never brought Gazans anything but misery.

    In short, both sides need to act responsibly.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    BTW, even Jimmy Carter acknowledged the tunnel. So, yes, it did exist.

    Hamas and its aligned militia should begin to realize that actions such as ridiculously floating bombs and the like get them nothing but more grief for the very people they were elected to represent.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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    kinniku

    I see you have not read the Goldstone report.

    I have read it. The account of the November 2008 incident was brief. It is funny that Hamas admitted to the existence of the tunnel and you still cling to your fantasies.

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    kinniku

    Interesting that Goldstone doesn't include that very important detail.

    How so? The Goldstone report did not focus on the November 2008 event in great detail. The report was not about the November 2008 incident. It was focused on the Gazan conflict in December and January. Nevertheless, Hamas did achknowledge this and it is public knowledge that they did.

    since we all know you never lie or make stuff up.

    Correct. Would that you were able to say the same thing.

    You are! You implied very clearly with your next sentence that Israel is not at fault.

    Incorrect. Disapproving of Hamas' actions does not equal approval of Israeli actions.

    Posted in: Militants pledge to float more bombs toward Israel

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