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kinniku
Oh, one more for the road:
http://www.almanar.com.lb/NewsSite/NewsDetails.aspx?id=61003&language=en
'Iran Proud of its Support for Hezbollah, Hamas'
Iranian Parliament speaker Ali Larijani on Wednesday declared that Iran was proud of its support for the Palestinian Hamas and Lebanese Hezbollah resistances, rejecting claims that it could be considered support for 'terrorism'.
He said the support was part of Iran's commitment in the region to assist its neighbors in fighting occupation, and he accused the United States, the West and Israel of contradicting the values of freedom and democracy. "They are freedom fighters fighting to defend their country and independence, that is not terrorism," he said about Hamas and Hezbollah.
So, yes, you were wrong again. Iran admits they support Hezbollah and Hamas. You really should consider reading more.
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kinniku
Your whole premise is incorrect. Again, please read my posts that specifically detail where you have been incorrect.
Yes, that would be one. As you have admitted, and is linked in this thread, you are well aware (After I informed you, of course. Before that, you had no idea there was even a problem at all in Iran. You were even suggested people should not be concerned about any danger. You said it was perfectly safe. Then and now, for different reasons, you are incorrect.) of the local instability in that region. The Iranians have in fact arrested local people who are been causing trouble locally for years. Of course, this is probably news to you again as you really do not seem to know very much about Iran.
I was responding to another poster, who was blaming Israel (as he and you often do for pretty much everything). He made that clear in another discussion. BTW, I wrote that Israel had NOTHING to do with it. That is hardly bringing up Israel. It is saying it is not part of the conversation. You, on the other hand, specifically brought it back into the conversation. (Speaking of obssession LOL!)
Ummm...You did not state a fact. In fact, there have been few facts presented by you whatsoever. Again, I ask do you deny Iran supports Hezbollah and Hamas? Iran doesn't deny it, but you are willing to? That fits right in with your lack of knowledge of the safety and political situation in Iran. All three sides acknowledge Iran's support. I don't need to say it. They do it for me.
You were again attempting to accuse Jews of taking over the world as you have fantastically and unrealistically suggested they have taken over the governments and media in Western countries. I am just demonstrating your consistent need to attempt to produce some sort of panic about Jews in the world. Sorry you have trouble living with your own words (You know incorrect things such as suggesting Jews faked moon landings and Fox News being owned by Al Jazeera, etc). Maybe you ought to think things through better in order to avoid such trouble in the future.
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kinniku
Umm...unfortunately for you, you seem to be proving their point here. Anyway, I would suggest that you learn the expression, 'two wrongs don't make a right'. If you think what they said was wrong, then you should not being doing it yourself.
Heh, yeah sure. The US has stayed exactly the same as when the original natives were there...not. Immigration, controlled of course, is the life blood of a healthy country. It made your country strong. Time for you to realize that.
Who are you talking about? The non-white British citizens who don't like the way the BNP suggests they are not as good as whites and that they are should not be allowed to be in Britain? I've got news for you. It is not just non-whites. As can be seen from this brief article, lots of British citizens hate what the BNP stands for and realize that such racism should not be tolerated.
No...it is the racism. Interesting with all the proof available even in this thread, which it seems you still have not even read through, that you are giving your opinion that a racist group is only concerned with immigration.
Well, that certainly says a lot about you. You see. Most people do not like and are not willing to tolerate the racisms that the BNP has demonstrated. Again, since you cannot be bothered to even read this thread or the charter of the group that I have provided, it is clear you either support that racist attitude or that you are just offering opinions with no reasonings related to the issue.
Well, it seems that you do not understand the meaning of 'supremacist' then. Check out a dictionary and look up white supremacist. Don't worry, you don't have to buy a dictionary, they are available for free on the internet. So now you don't have an excuse for a lack of knowledge.
LOL! That is your only criteria? Hear that everyone? As long as you don't lynch anyone, it is okay to spread hate and racism. Whew. I would not want to live in the narrow world as you imagine it to be.
The BNP and the KKK or David Duke's organization are all the same bunch of rubbish with different packaging. The BNP is not 'fighting for the rights of whites' (whites have plenty of right in the UK and elsewhere, BTW so it is a specious 'cause' to begin with), they are fighting to exclude people who they do not consider 'white' from Britain and British society. That includes those that would marry or have children with people who are what the BNP does not consider 'white'. Although members of the BNP don't wear hoods and sheets, since it seems you agree with that philosophy, I would imagine if you went to the UK and joined a BNP meeting, that they'd probably let you bring and use your own hood and sheet.
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kinniku
Oh and Dick,
The BNP was FORCED to accept applications for members of other races. They had NO choice but to do that or have their party dissolved. Try reading. You can learn so much about things.
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kinniku
DickMorris and bushlover,
Sigh. Read the thread from the beginning. Better yet, read their charter:
BNP Constitution 9th Edition. British National Party. http://bnp.org.uk/Constitution%209th%20Ed%20Sep%202005.pdf
It is obvious that the BNP is a racist group and easily fits into the definition of white supremacist group. Right above here is a quote from the BNP's Griffin himself. If you are still having trouble, I hear you can buy reading primers on the internet now. So, there is still hope for you.
At its core, this has nothing at all to do with 'immigration' policies and it has everything to do with racist ideology.
Since you did not even take the time to read through the thread...right back at you. In fact, it is interesting that you would decide to judge people mainly on what country they come from. I'm sure the BNP can open up a spot for you. Hey, if they are full, you could always shave your head.
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kinniku
I guess there are probably a few interpretations. One of the most common definitions of fringe would be an idea or a group of ideas that depart significantly from the prevailing or mainstream view. The BNP fits the bill for this definition. At least, I would hope so.
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kinniku
sabiwabi,
My point is to point out that all you have to do is look at the organization and see it's charter and membership requirements. Did you read it? Based on your response, I would say you have not. Re-read it.
Again, it is obvious that you are either having some trouble with reading or you have not read the quote or the link about the BNP for you to still be asking such a question. Do you know what the words 'white supremacist' mean? Again, did you bother to read my pasted quote or the charter in the link I politely provided for you? It again seems as if you haven't.
Again, just for you:
Membership of the BNP is strictly defined within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal ambit of a defined **‘racial group’ **this being **‘Indigenous Caucasian’ **and defined **‘ethnic groups’ **emanating from that Race as specified in law in the House of Lords case of Mandla V Dowell Lee (1983) 1 ALLER 1062, HL."
If you would also read the charter, you would see there is plenty more.
BTW, my comment about the impression you give that you don't manage to read very much is supported by your continued questions about something which has already been answered.
For example, how could anyone upon reading the quote above or the charter asked this:
It is based on the group's charter and philosophy. Asked and answered, twice now.
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kinniku
No, I don't think it would be necessarily the same thing to ask members of a religious group to be followers of that particular religion. If you are not a member of the religion, there is not much reason to be a member of that religious group. However, what we see here on the part of the BNP is a specific desire to block people based on race. That is the definition of racism.
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kinniku
If he is a supporter, I would assume he knows what they are. If you say something, just be prepared for a potential confrontation. Then again, maybe he really doesn't know what they really stand for. As witnessed in the first post some people don't always think to check things out.
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kinniku
My point, simply put, is that you are incorrect. Read my posts again to see why in detail.
BTW, not putting words in your mouth. Just showing what you wrote. Nothing wrong with that. Don't forget. I also put the link there so anyone can see I am correct.
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kinniku
Sigh....Read much?
BNP Constitution 9th Edition. British National Party. http://bnp.org.uk/Constitution%209th%20Ed%20Sep%202005.pdf
"The British National Party represents the collective National, Environmental, Political, Racial, Folkish, Social, Cultural, Religious and Economic interests of the indigenous Anglo-Saxon, Celtic and Norse folk communities of Britain and those we regard as closely related and ethnically assimilated or assimilable aboriginal members of the European race also resident in Britain. Membership of the BNP is strictly defined within the terms of, and our members also self define themselves within, the legal ambit of a defined ‘racial group’ this being ‘Indigenous Caucasian’ and defined ‘ethnic groups’ emanating from that Race as specified in law in the House of Lords case of Mandla V Dowell Lee (1983) 1 ALLER 1062, HL."
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kinniku
Ummm...the man is not Jewish. In addition, I don't think he hates himself one bit.
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kinniku
Stopped what? The Shah is gone. Haven't you noticed?
My eyes are wide open. That's how I provided the proof I gave you above. Did you happen to read it? You agreed with my assessment of the situation after I provided proof. It is there for all to read. You cannot back away now. You agreed that the Iranian borders were frought with dangers owing to an internal insurgancy and to bandits. Certainly the government of Iran agreed and so did their official news agency IRNA. Again, so did you.
Ummm... the year is 2009. McCain lost. The bomb, bomb bomb stuff is finished now. He lost because of that. Try living in the present for a bit.
Lies. I am not sure. Deception, I am not sure. A mistake? Iraq, I would say, yes. Not Afghanistan, no matter how much you would like to blame Jews, Israel, the Mossad, space aliens, Kermit the Frog and Anpanman for what happened on September 11th, 2001.
Nah, we don't ALL know that. What is clear is that we ALL want things to cool down. Iran blaming other countries for something they know is internal is not only ridiculous, it is a way of again diverting attention away for dealing with real serious issues for the nation and people of Iran, such as employment, and the economy.
Sounds delicious. However, the fact remains you agreed with my assessment as shown in the link above that a situation that was dangerous has been a problem along the border for some time. You also know it was and is a local problem. The funniest part of this is the fact you did not even know there was a problem until I pointed it out to you. Until then, you were actually encouraging people to visit all parts of Iran and even chose not to believe the facts until you had no choice when shown IRNA reports pointing out exactly what I said and I am saying now.
So, again, it really does seem that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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kinniku
Unsurprisingly, you have that backwards.
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kinniku
Sorry, with the kind of mud your using Ajax would be quite ineffective. It takes a clear honest specific response to such mud to make it clear. Let me do that for you. That was in 1953. That is then and this is now. You again have made no proof of your claims. Interestingly, you still don't know about present day Iran at all. Let's look at the border situation again, shall we?
So, you don't remember the conversation where demonstrated you knew nothing about the dangerous situation in the border areas of Iran, huh? Let's refresh that memory, okay?
http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/freed-japanese-meets-father-in-tehran#showallcomments
You mistakenly wrote:
When other posters expressed honest concerns about traveling to Iran, you wrote:
'So I strongly advise you not to go to Iran. But for others, Iran is a fine place.'
To which I explained:
'However, you seem to be avoiding the inconvenient truth that Iranians don't advise traveling in certain areas of the country (particularly parts of the western and most of the eastern borders) because of the danger. Iran is not one big completely the same area. Travelers should be aware of the situation and conditions in the places they wish to travel. That seems to be all most people here are saying. We are all perfectly aware that there are many areas that are fairly safe in Iran. This traveler didn't stay in those areas.'
To which you continued:
'kinniku, Do you happen to have anything to back up your inconvenient truth?'
Oh course, I did (as I always do):
As you can see, most reasonable people realize there are indeed dangerous parts of Iran and that people like Mr. Nakamura should exercise caution when traveling. However, for people such as yourself, I will happily provide a small bit of recent news of the area. Remember, I can always back up what I write. If not, I don't write it. Hopefully, people will read it and realize that it is better to do research about your intended area of travel rather than trust people who probably don't have their facts straight...
Care of the Islamic Republic News Agency (I previously provided a more complete list but it was deleted for being off-topic):
Wednesday June 18, 2008 Judge assassinated in Saravan, Iran Zahedan, Sistan-o-Balouchestan Prov, June 17, IRNA
Wednesday June 18, 2008 7 bandits killed in northwestern Iran Tehran, May 31, IRNA
Wednesday June 18, 2008 Kidnapped Japanese tourist, Iranian clergyman freed Tehran, June 14, IRNA
So you see, you really have no idea what you are talking about. There is a serious situation at the border and you continue to have no idea what is going on even after being instructed with Iran's news agency bulletins.
OMGROTFLOL! Um...Do you ever read what you write or does it just flow directly from your fingers without passing your thought process? You wrote right above here:
'Funny how we hear constant (baseless) accusations of Israel being attacked by Iran "via their proxies", but when Iran is attacked, it must be an internal matter.'
You brought up Israel (speaking of obsessions!). I merely responded to it. As I will clearly again: You cannot point to any statements of support on the part of Israel for any such proxies in Iran.
So you deny Iran supports Hezbollah and Hamas? Iran doesn't deny it, but you are willing to? That fits right in with your lack of knowledge of the safety and political situation in Iran. All three sides acknowledge Iran's support. I don't need to say it. They do it for me.
LOL! You can keep saying that. However, since it has no basis in fact, it is basically your own joke on yourself.
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kinniku
Except, you did not do that. You went to an Indian newspaper that was complaining about an American who they said wasn't acting 'Indian' enough for them.
Telling about what? He is an American citizen. There are lots of people who are born of immigrants and yet do not speak the language of their parents or speak the way their parents do. So what? He is not an Indian.
Yes, sorry. You said color when speaking of the man himself and said 'kind' when speaking of his wife. Yes, that is much better...not.
You appear not to know how to read because Jindal converted religions when he was in high school. He was not a party to 'how marriage works in the Indian community'.
So you say. However, I think it is just as it was written in the Indian newspaper you quoted, Mr. Jindal was too American for them and for you. You want him to dance the dance you think should be on his dance card merely because of who his parents are and where they come from. I maintain that you have no right to limit how someone can act or think just because of the background of their family. It is the kind of racism that Bardell seems to follow and I cannot agree with it.
Well, I don't happen to agree with Mr. Jindal's views on most things as I have come to know them. However, I would never claim that he is 'Uncle Tomming' for votes as you have been claiming. You see, that would be racist.
BTW, you never managed to factually answer any of the questions about your previous posts. Might be better to think things through a bit more before slandering someone just because they don't act Indian enough for you.
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kinniku
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kinniku
Kinda like your incorrect, but extremely amusing gem that Fox News owned Al Jazeera! LOL!
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kinniku
Ummm...do you need to be taught about the Iranian borders again? Don't you remember my clearly and specifically showing you clear and specific articles by Iran's IRNA detailing clearly and specifically the internal strife in the border areas of Iran? I certainly remember you not even having a clue about the problems in the area and you even encouraging people to travel to the region declaring it (LOL!) perfectly safe! Best to do some studying before making claims you can't back up. Speaking to Iran's proxies and support of them in Lebanon and Gaza, you seem to be unaware of them, but Iran knows it supports them and so do Hezbollah and Hamas. You cannot point to any statements of support on the part of Israel for any such proxies in Iran.
Yes, about as clear as your knowledge of the safety of the Iranian border areas, meaning it is as clear as mud. Bandits and insurgents in the border areas (you remember, the ones you said didn't exist a while back, LOL!) have been around a long time and whenever they have been arrested they have been shown to be homegrown.
Everybody run! Run! Run! The Jews are coming! The Jews are coming! Yes, they are faking moon landings and helping Fox News take over Al Jazeera. LOL! Your claims should be printed in the Onion. Hey, is that where you get your material?
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kinniku
Translation: You think the opinions of people other than the man himself are better for factually describing the thinking of Mr. Jindal himself? That is a pretty bad example of facts...You have not proved even one of your assertions here. You have merely provided an article filled with the same kind of innuendo that you have provided yourself. You do know what the word 'facts' means, don't you? I was not asking for opinion when I asked you these very specific questions:
How do you know Bardell voted for Gov. Jindal?
Your comment was both about Mr. and Mrs. Jindal and you seem to be suggesting the only reason she was 'picked' to be his bride was because of her color. That was inappropriate to both of them, particularly so as you seem to not know whether what you have suggested is true or not. Do you know it to be true for a fact?
You talk of him wanting to 'assimilate'. What are you basing this on? Anything concrete? Did he actually say this? Have you based any of your commentary specifically regarding Mr. Jindal based on any specific facts?
Again, why do you automatically assume he is de-emphasizing his Indian-ness? He is exactly the same person he was when he lost his election in 2003. He didn't change his skin color, or hadn't you noticed?
You keep providing opinion. However, you do not show any factual provable specific basis for your opinion. Let me suggest that a person is able to decide for themselves how much of their background, race, religion, or ethnicity plays in their lives. Again, I think it is strange to accuse Mr. Jindal of not being Indian enough or of running away from his heritage etc. People are not always running away from something. Sometimes they are heading to something else. You have shown no specific facts to show Mr. Jindal is not what he honestly represents himself to be.
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