JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Why do Japanese change their attitude when they communicate with foreigners?
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Confrontation
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U.S. Navy investigating how parts fell off aircraft near Atsugi
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California court to decide if SeaWorld whales are illegal 'slaves'
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Kuroki reported pregnant 2 weeks after denying relationship with Akanishi
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kinniku
stevecpfc,
It really is a simple request. Please cut and paste the direct URL for the video you claim exists that shows Israelis laughing and jumping as the towers burn. There seems to be no such video. If you cannot produce an URL, it seems you are incorrect again.
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kinniku
stevecpfc,
You have a bad habit of claiming things that seem to be quite untrue. You said there was a video of Israelis laughing and jumping. There is none.
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kinniku
sabiwabi,
Yeah, because nobody ever converts to Islam...not! Sorry, your whining about him not being real was false. The Pakistanis arrested him and he is the real deal. You have no proof of him being 'fake' anything. He converted to Islam more than 10 years ago. He has spoken harshly about his grandfather and his religion. Sorry, Jews have nothing to do with this.
Speaking of 'fake', I don't believe what you say you saw on CNN. Link?
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kinniku
sabiwabi,
Thank you for your confirmation. However, there are absolutely no videos of Israelis cheering, dancing, prancing, singing, chanting, jumping and/or laughing despite people constantly claiming there are and despite conspiracy sites constantly referring to them as the 'dancing Israelis'.
I have checked the site you mentioned and found it extremely misleading and inaccurate. As I wrote:
What some claim as jumping and laughing:
1) Does not equal "dancing", which is the constant claim that is never mentioned by any witness whatsoever.
2) Does not mean involvement in anything. People react in different ways. Palestinians also jumped and laughed. That does not mean Palestinians were involved. (BTW, don't bother trying to say they were celebrating a soccer game. They were not. That story has been well de-bunked as an urban legend.)
Yes and photographed and shown on TV...again:
Looking at photographs of the wreckage at the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001, one can see the following:
Pieces of the plane fuselage.
Engine remains.
Wheel rims.
Landing gear.
Tire tread.
Doors.
Compressor rotor.
Clearly recognizable pieces of the plane with lettering on them.
Low pressure turbine, etc.
Why is it that people do not realize these things were seen and photgraphed? Why do people cling to such fantasies when the truth is right there?
Why is it that you need a video to confirm a plane hit it when witnesses saw and heard the plane and there were plane parts all over the place?
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kinniku
stevecpfc,
I am getting the impression that you are again mistaken and that there is actually no such video whatsoever of Israelis dancing or anything else. Just as I said. Thank you for your confirmation.
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kinniku
stevecpfc,
Thanks. However, still not a big help. Can't find the video you say is there. Could you provide a direct URL? I would love to see these laughing and jumping Israelis.
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kinniku
stevecpfc,
Unsurprisingly, your link does not seem to work. BTW, jumping and laughing:
1) Does not equal "dancing", which is the constant claim that is never mentioned by any witness whatsoever.
2) Does not mean involvement in anything. People react in different ways. Palestinians also jumped and laughed. That does not mean Palestinians were involved. (BTW, don't bother trying to say they were celebrating a soccer game. They were not. That story has been well de-bunked as an urban legend.)
3) Since I can't see your site (wrong URL? Doesn't really exist?), I don't know, however are you saying you can actually see Israelis on the video? That would be a first. Please give us a direct link to the videos.
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kinniku
Sorry: debree=debris
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kinniku
All video etc in question is readily available as are the context and explanations of the people involved. It is this context and these explanations that are sorely lacking on conspiracy sites.
Still nothing about 'dancing Israelis'. The words solely of a conspiracy site don't count. Not one witness talks about dancing Israelis. Not one of the actual quotes or links to actual news sites says anything about dancing Israelis. That is what I mean about these sites. Out of context and outright misrepresentations of events and witnesses.
As to the Pentagon, asked and answered, the was in fact plenty of recognizable debree and witnesses to the crash that saw the plane coming in and crashing. There is not always a video of every event that happens in the world. That doesn't mean it did not happen.
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kinniku
Hey, he was caught on Obama's watch. Credit where credit is due. Of course, it was Pakistan that arrested him. Good on them.
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kinniku
Heh, and many more will say they understand perfectly how it could happen.
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kinniku
Looking at photographs of the wreckage at the Pentagon on September 11th, 2001, one can see the following:
Pieces of the plane fuselage.
Engine remains.
Wheel rims.
Landing gear.
Tire tread.
Doors.
Compressor rotor.
Clearly recognizable pieces of the plane with lettering on them.
Low pressure turbine, etc.
Why is it that people do not realize these things were seen and photgraphed? Why do people cling to such fantasies when the truth is right there?
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kinniku
Again, there were no 'dancing Israelis'. There is no video of 'dancing Israelis'. There were no explosives in any van connected with Israelis. They had no Arab clothes whatsoever. Actually reading and watching the real news footage tells anyone interested these facts. However, conspiracy sites neglect to include these facts favoring hyperbole and blatant untruths.
They have a lot in common with Ahmadinejad.
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kinniku
LostinNagoya,
We are all entitled to voice our opinions. If you would check, you would see both sides can be quite persistent in trying to make their case heard. ie, both sides are 'trying to convince people of their opinions'. That is called discussion. You are free to join in, but telling people to 'shut up' is certainly not the best way, IMHO.
Ahmadinejad is the story here. So, it is fair game to discuss the man. It is his opinions that are the focus of the article. The man has a history and it directly influences how one judges what he has to say.
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kinniku
Blind much?
"This individual was not the same person as the hijacker whose identity was later confirmed by Saudi government interviews with his family, according to the 9/11 Commission Report."
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kinniku
Conspiracy freaks have been suggesting that somehow this man was proof of some plot connecting al-Quaeda to the CIA or whatever. Oops! Guess they were wrong again!
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kinniku
Except there is no 'dancing Israeli' video. So, I wonder what exactly you found so disturbing?
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kinniku
HeyLars,
I will only deal with one point right now. You wrote:
However, the reality is that they found, amongst other lot of other debris from the plane, two turbine engines from the plane. Add to that the many witnesses seeing and hearing the actual plane crash.
That is why it is silly to ask us to explain all of your questions. It takes time to show you are mistaken. However, I have just shown you you were mistaken about a huge point. I wonder if that will stop you from believing conspiracy sites and actually check some stuff out yourself. Probably not, huh?
That's okay. It probably won't stop Ahamdinejad either even if he read this site.
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kinniku
Simonpeter,
Allow me to offer my condolences. Hopefully it won't happen, but it is possible some on here may not only doubt what you wrote, but they may even say it did not happen. Please pay them no mind.
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kinniku
Grafton,
Great points. As you wrote, Molenir and Elbudamexicano also correctly help put things in perspective.
Hurts a lot less than wall-banging, that's for sure.
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