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kkoobcam
Palestinians are pushed to collective punishment because Israel wants to punish resistance movements and national liberation movements. Israel is not a normal country, it is an occupying, racist colonial country and the native people of Gaza are under siege. . When colonial nations occupy other people´s country, siege has been used as a weapon to collective punnish an entire people. Siege is a military action at the beginning of war. Now the Palestinians are being killed by bombs in refugee camps by the oppressing land stealing colonists who caged them there.
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kkoobcam
canada could vote in the UN in favor of a cease fire or not. US has no choice but to vote in the UNSC and they vote against is odd. uk, china, russia, france vote in favor but us doesnt so there is no resolution while more people are getting killed
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kkoobcam
I think every country in the world including Japan and colonist countries such as Canada would have voted in favor of a cease fire in the UNSC. not sure why US doesn´t.think they´ve lost it.
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kkoobcam
It is a little rich for Israel to be comparing Hamas as an extreme militant organization when Israel is more extreme. These rockets which Palestinians fire into Israel and state of the art technology which Israel fires into Gaza is not the same. You can argue and say that Palestinians should not have fired the rockets but Israel should not have closed it´s already occupied borders and starving the entire people of Gaza. If israel open up the borders and then the Palestinians would stop firing rockets and that is the better than the situation than now but US and Israel does not want that. They want to exterminate the native Palestinians like all colonist nations have a tendency to do. Besides Israel is killing deliberately. civilians, including entire families.killing knowingly is killing deliberately and terrorism.
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kkoobcam
To Sailwind.
YOu do not need to use nukes to kill civilians on purpose. Is that what Americans get taught in schools in US? Wow. Scary but hillarious.
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kkoobcam
To Sailwind.
Israelis kill civilians on purpose. And you tell me to get a grip? I hope youunderstand how ironic you sound.
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kkoobcam
Labeling Hamas a terrorist organization if the big joke here. Terrorism is a normative term which is used to describe what the 'other' does, not what 'we' do. If Hamas is guilty for terror should not the terror label be used on Israel and US too?
Is calling for a single non religious state the same as calling for the destruction of Israel? Hamas has refused to recognize israel as long as the Israelis do not recognize Palestine and demanded a single non religious state. If not that a retreat to 67 borders. What Israel is it that Hamas needs to recognize? What borders? How would American Jews feel if US became an exclusive Protestant state where Protestants had different laws and rules than others? A Zionist Israel is no longer a viable long-term project. Israeli settlements, have made a two-state solution impossible. The only option for a lasting peace is a one state solution as Hamas is saying where all peoples despite difference in ethnicity and religion have the same political rights.
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kkoobcam
typo. Non single non democratic but single non religious state where evryone has equal rights.
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kkoobcam
Hamas wasnts a single non democratic state where everyone has equal rights. If you think that is the same as destruction of Israel suit yourself. how would an American jew feel if US became a exclusive Protestant state?
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kkoobcam
This massacre is like a dream come true for the right-winged Israelis and their American blood thirsty supporters. They are teh same people who cheered on the US destruction in Falluja, and the Sabra and Shatilla massacres in Lebanon. They are the same people calling Hamas a terrorist organization while not wanting to dismantle a single illeagal settlement in the Occupied Territories . They say Hamas calls for destruction of Israel and they want to turn Palestine into a Sharia Law state like Saudi.. Actually, Hamas does not want to implement Sharia law and has called for a single NON RELIGIOUS country in Palestine. And as others have stated many are now comparing the Hamas movement with former ANC and Israel to former South Africa.
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kkoobcam
Madverts.
Israel maintaining the blockade and telling Palestinians not to smuggle anything and starve to death instead. Surely you are not that blind that you fail to see the hypocracy, and do not support collective punishment which is against international law.
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kkoobcam
Madvert.
Palestians were digging, food, medical aid which Israel is responsible to provide the Palestinians with due to Israel occupying Gaza. I am sure there were some weapons smuggled into Gaza too. Israel gets at least 3 Billion Dollars in aid each year and state of the art weaponry from US so not sure why smuggling weapons is such an issue. Can you see the hypocracy and the double morals Madvert? As an occupying power Israel is egregious violating international law and the Geneva Conventions by maintaining the blockade.
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kkoobcam
Madvert.
Israel has never recognized Palestine. Besides, which Israel would you want Hamas to recognize? Does Israel have fixed borders? The Israel of 1967 or 2009 ? How could Palestinian recognize a state that doesn’t recognize the very existence of the natve Palestinians? 1 state solution is the solution I think will come sooner or later and is the best solution for ending this conflict. The world will not support a 2 state solution where Palestinians are confined to small enclaves like bantustants in former South Africa surrounded by walls and Israel will not go back to 1967 borders because Israel already has hundreds of thousands of settlers in the Occupied Territories.
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kkoobcam
To SuperLib.
The point being is that Israel violated the cease fire Superlib and killed Palestinians in November. So if there was someone violating the cease fire first it was not Hamas but israel. To be able to have a cease fire it needs to be a win win situation for both. Despite not firing a single rocket Israel maintained the blocakde and kept starving the Palestinin population. Hamas demanded Israel to open up the borders to let in humanitarian aid in to Gaza but Israel kept having the blockade. So Hamas started firing rockets. Hamas probably played right into the hands of the israeli strategists who had wanted to have an invasion into Gaza for some time. Hamas were left with 2 options. Either to be killed by starvation or by the Israeli war machine. Israel just needed the right excuse and by playing the victim and framing this as a defensive war Israel was able to go into a beseiged Gaza and carry out their massacres with US support.
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kkoobcam
To madverts.
The point of Israel is to make sure not to intergrate the native Palestinians with Israel. That is why Israel either killed or terrorised most of the Palestinians from their homes and then later placed them in ghettos and refugee camps and been caging them there for the past 60 years. Israel could annex rest of Palestine and give the same human and politicla rights to the Palestinaisn but israel does not want to do that. It also does not want to give independence to Palestine so instead they keep Palestine under a military occupation which by many is being compared to apartheid. This is why riots and Intifadas break out in Palestine. Intifada meaning to shake off. To shake off the occupation.
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kkoobcam
If the Palestinians were to integrate themselves peacefully with Israel, they'd probably be affluent people. The point of Israel is to make sure not to intergrate the native Palestinians with Israel. That is why Israel either killed or terrorised most of the Palestinians from their homes and then later placed them in ghettos and refugee camps and been caging them there for the past 60 years. Israel could annex rest of Palestine and give the same human and politicla rights to the Palestinaisn but israel does not want to do that. It also does not want to give independence to Palestine so instead they keep Palestine under a military occupation which by many is being compared to apartheid. This is why riots and Intifadas break out in Palestine. Intifada meaning to shake off. To shake off the occupation.
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kkoobcam
Hamas enjoys huge support among Palestinians and Arabs throughout the Middle East. What it does not get is open support from Egypt but Egypt is run by a dictator who is not very much liked in his home country.
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kkoobcam
It is Israel who is oppressing the Palestinians and placing them in refugee camps. It is Israel who terrorised the Palestinians from their homes and their native lands and placed them in ghettos.
There are two completely different versions of what is currently happening in Gaza. One is the American version and the other is the non American version. The American version is about Hamas the democratic terrorist organization and the other version is about Palestinians trying to break free from oppression. Before Palestinians used to throw stones at the occupiers in Gaza now they launch home made rockets at the occupiers. The objectives is the same, to try to break free from oppression and occupation. Israel making sure to maintain the occupation and oppression while getting support by US.
Not too long ago Israel flattened the city of Jenin and now they are flattening the city of Gaza. In both caces Israel was fighting the Palestinians but this time however Israel say they are fighting Hamas which most non Americans take as a lie. Non Americans believe Israel uses Hamas as an excuse to carry on their plans to keep oppressing and exterminating the native Palestinians.
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kkoobcam
Hamas is a people´s movement which enjoy lots of support in Gaza. From taxi drivers to university proffessors. The militants also have lots of support among it´s local population. Hamas is embedded in Gaza therefore Israel will not be able to erase Hamas from Gaza, what it can do is to stop the number of rockets being fired from Gaza and weaken the Hamas military capabilities, in the long run Hams will be just as armed as now and there will be just as many fighters who will fight the occupation. Cause and effect. The best solution for the Palestinians at the moment is that they become Israeli citizens with the same rights as Israelis.That probably will not happen yet and Israel will not retreat to 67 borders so by the looks of things Israel will maintain the occupation but let go of the blockade and then countries will argue over who will control the various crossings.
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kkoobcam
This is an uprising. The oppressed are trying to break free from the Occupation. The cease fire will have to come sooner or later. Hamas will want open borders and Israel a stop to the rockets being fired. Other issues which will be discussed is who will be controlling the borders. Whether it will be OK to arm the Palestinians or not. Humanitarian aid. The Arab League is divided. Saudi and Egypt are skeptical to Hamas but are also apalled with israel´s massacre. Arab league wants to take their case to the UNSC, EU will vote for an cease fire where as US will not at this stage but will when the pressure mounts even more. In the mean time there will be an urban bloody battle.
Controlling the borders will be the issue. Israel will not agree to a 1967 borders and Hamas will not agree to anything less than 1967 borders.
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