Thursday February 16, 2012

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    mareo2

    goodDonkey:

    Thanks for the words of encouragement, I really want to learn more english because some times, I find my limited knowledge very frustrating. I want to say more but I am so ignorant that I dont know how to express my ideas.

    But I think that I dont deserve you praise so much because, maybe you can agree that what happened there is so dificult to defend that very few people can succed on do it.

    Also I dont think that inkjet or others can resort to that tricks because I try my best to respect other readers. If I learned something in these years in JT, is that insults and humilliations never convince the other person of your opinion and of course, the fact that we are humans and the other person can be rigth and we can be wrong because no one know everything.

    inkjet:

    Like I said to goodDonkey, I think that you tried to defend a very dificult case, but you did your best anyway. Even if you dont convinced me of change my opinion these time, I respect you for your tenacity and waith for read more of your opinions.

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    mareo2

    Like USNinJapan2 said, the E-767 is a flying radar, not a photograper. It dont need to fly over NK space for keep their missiles under surveillance when Elvis launch them. The gob only want to keep a close eye on the missiles and is not planining anything beyond that. NK is just hoting the air, because they cant do anything for stop us.

    Posted in: North Korea threatens to shoot down Japanese spy planes

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    mareo2

    but back to this discussion. which ever way you feel about the elections in iraq. i haven't heard a convincing argument that says those elections couldn't have a positive effect in iran. explain why having open elections next door wouldn't have a positive effect on iranians?

    I think that we already discussed these before in the other thread. http://www.japantoday.com/category/world/view/republicans-call-obama-timid-on-iran#comments

    mareo2 at 07:55 PM JST - 25th June

    Let's try to focus in to the disagreement. Our difference in opinion is that you think that Bush made good things with Iran and allowed the coming of moderates. I think that Bush only gived more power to the hardliners and is Obama the one that made iranians go and vote for change the president. If you can elaborate just "how" the Irak elections influenced the Iran electiosn that can really help me to understad you, because I just dont see any influence and I dont readed any one talking of these idea aside of you. If you can provide links to any political expert with credible backgrounds that mention these, that can be very helpful to me.

    I waithed your answer for more or less of 42 hours. I am sure that you are a busy with your own life, but if you got time for post in these thread maybe you just got so hoked here that you forgot to check the other thread. Dont worrie, I dont feel offended, I dont think that you just avoid to answer because you dont know what to answer. You have the chance to answer to my request of eleaborate or back your opinion in these thread now. Thanks for rememberme that I asked you first.

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    mareo2

    it seems the liberals are the ones having the hardest time accepting success in iraq.

    Is a "pyrrhic victory" that americans dont want to repeat and other countries dont want to imitate. It weakened the USA military power and political influence to the current "appesement" policy. I ca'nt see it like a success in the larger picture, only like a "moral victory" because is it was selled like making America and the world a saffer place by stop the development of WMDs for terrorists. The democracy part was aded as a collateral benefit, but the country was rifted by sectarian terrorism as an extra cost.

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    mareo2

    This case is different. If the UN won't speak out against a regime that is shooting its own citizens - unarmed protesters - how on earth can the Useless Nations be trusted to monitor in good faith a regime that talks openly of genocide while simultaneously pursuing nukes.

    With all due respect to you and your opinion.

    1 - Iran's uranium enrichment program is without any doubt something that must to be discused in the UN.

    2 - Deal with internal strugle is not for what the UN was made for.

    3 - The UN dont react based on rethoric for get votes. Ie. "bomb iran" from McCain.

    4 - UN is useless only when one of the members of the UNSC say "if you do that, I am going to use my veto power". (USA, UK, France, China and Russia).

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    mareo2

    For set the record clear. I think that Iran was more or less free until the current gob started the full censorship and repression of iranians. The world is not black and white, good and evil. I think that Obama and some politicians in Iran understand that.

    Posted in: Obama lays down harder line on Iran violence

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    mareo2

    I think that partisanship "still" dominates the policy discusion.

    1 - Do people think that the organizer of protest agaisnt the American invasion of Cambodia bear some responsability for the "Kent State massacre"? Or the organizers of the protest for the Independence of India in the "Amritsar Massacre"?

    2 - I dont support foreigner intervention on an internal problem without UN approbal. In special from the USA in Iran with the past support to the Sha.

    3 - The UN exist for keep the peace betwen nations, not for make interventions on every internal protest. If there is mass killing and lots of refuges cross the borders, then we can start to talk about an international problem and discuse if an intervention is needed.

    4 - If the iranians protests stop now, they can end like the protests of Myanmar or the protest of Tiananmen. Is civilian protests or go underground and take the arms or live with the gob controling their computers. But is up to the iranians. If they want freedom, they have to do it with their own hands and be ready to risk their lives for that freedom.

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    mareo2

    i meant the the sentiment is small minded. i still do.

    Sorry, my english is terrible. Can you elaborate?

    i think if you looked at the larger picture you might see there are positive and negative things in every situation.

    Hmm... That sounds to me like a consolation prize.

    this is not the right thread to go into bush and the war in iraq. it's about the elections in iran.

    I think that the Irak war is relevant to these thread about Iran, because after Bush invaded Irak, the hardliners in Iran not only lost an enemy, they also got a lot of influence in Irak. Also, why you can talk about Bush and the Irak elections and I cant talk about Bush and the Irak war?

    all other consideration aside i believe the iranians may be inspired by the free elections next door. that is a good thing.

    Iranians voted reformist before. The only diference is that these time, there is a real chance of advance the nuclear negotiations if a moderate iranian president meet a moderate USA president.

    the rest of your argument is besides the point for me in this thread.

    Sorry, I am confused, but is not you who asked to me to look in to the larger picture?

    Let's try to focus in to the disagreement. Our difference in opinion is that you think that Bush made good things with Iran and allowed the coming of moderates. I think that Bush only gived more power to the hardliners and is Obama the one that made iranians go and vote for change the president. If you can elaborate just "how" the Irak elections influenced the Iran electiosn that can really help me to understad you, because I just dont see any influence and I dont readed any one talking of these idea aside of you. If you can provide links to any political expert with credible backgrounds that mention these, that can be very helpful to me.

    Posted in: Republicans call Obama timid on Iran

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    mareo2

    wow. this is a very surprising sentiment. so small minded.

    Please, can we avoid the insults?

    of course i agree in an ideal world there would be no double standard.

    Thank you.

    but you can't reject good results because of this double standard.

    Why..? It dont make the USA looks hypocrite?

    we need to build toward a better world step by step where and when we can.

    Yes, but the "Bush Doctrine" support "the end justify the means". In my opinion, that is inmoral.

    simply dismissing the accomplishment of bring elections to iraq and afghanistan is really insulting to the thousands who died trying to reach that goal.

    If Elvis nuke Honolulu and half million civilians die when USA is busy with democracy in Irak and Afganistan. What is the priority for the president? National Security or invade other countries for democracy?

    will you hold obama to the same ridiculous standard? if so, you may as well start condemning him right now as he clearly supports the suadi king. so nothing he says or does to promote democracy or fairness will be worth defending, right? if you want to be consistent. 100% or nothing. is that it?

    I think that Obama asured to the world that he dont follow an agenda of actively impose "american values" in other countries.

    consider the possibility that what is happening in iran could be a result of the elections in iraq and afghanistan. perhaps the iranians are asking themselves if they can have fair elections why can't we?

    No, I think that a lot of people suspect that any democracy from an ocupation force is pupet of the invading nation and is weak for the suspected lack of legitimacy.

    i know you hate bush.

    I am not a muslim, so I dont hate Bush. But as a japanese I think that he really failed to see what the real National Security threats are in WMDs, for the USA and their allies.

    but try to consider it is just possible what happened in iraq and afghanistan could represent a new future for the muslim world. it is possible.

    I dont think that there is anyone that want to be invaded and ocupied like Irak or Agfanistan and is going to take a lot of time to heal the wounds of the war and insurgence. We can expect some anti-americanism from the relatives of the victims of these agressive policy.

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    mareo2

    well that is a bit one dimensional. for starters, free elections in afghanistan and iraq. that doesn't count for anything?

    Very little, do Bush cared that there is no free election in Saudi Arabia? I think that we already discused that any moral ground on democracy is lost for double-standard.

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    mareo2

    in fact i think both approaches need to work together,** the good cop, bad cop routine**. if the world's pressure (and it wasn't just the cowboy was it?) weakened the regime obama's approach could be helpful. but i think that would mean supporting the people. bush always expressed his support for the iranian people.

    I my opinion, it looks more like Bush played the "bad cop" as a role model of all what the world must to see like absolutly wrong from the USA: invasions, torture, bombings, etc... So when everyone got so affraid of the GOP that even USA's staunchest allies started to critic USA, then the Obama play the "good cop" and the democrats look like the heros and saviors of the world. For some reason, I think that these is not what the neo-cons promised to the GOP.

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    mareo2

    WOW! So cool!!! These pic is awesome!

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    mareo2

    If Carlos can do an affordable electric car, that can make Nissan number two of J and make the hybrid tech look obsolete.

    Posted in: Nissan to mass produce electric cars in 2012

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    mareo2

    USA is a very advanced civilization. I want to be a NYC teacher and spend my days reading books :)

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    mareo2

    I think that partisanship is dominating policy discusion. If hardliners really think that the USA need to take a very tough stance. Then why you dont support a military draft, burrow more money from China and tell Obama that you are going to fully back him even if these is a democrat administration in threaten Iran and Elvis with war if they dont give up the nuclear programs for economic help? Because I dont see other way of be credible in tough talk, whitout enough soldiers and money for fight 3 wars at the same time. Anything else is just hot air, like the old retoric speechs from Fidel Castro.

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    mareo2

    He is. He is also timid with NK.

    Clinton was preparing a pre-emptive strike against NK's nuke project, then Elvis chikened and offered to give up the nukes for economic help. But Bush rejected the offer. After Bush invaded the wrong country without any WMDs whatsoever (Irak) and got the USA bleeding out against insurgence, Elvis keeped perfecting nukes and started scalating provocations whitout much fear of a pre-emptive strike from the USA. And lately I keep hearing opinions that the USA maybe can not defend Japan if we are bombed with chemicals and that we must to do a pre-emptive strike alone. So, I dont have a very positive opinion of Bush way of deal with states developing WMDs and Republicans that keep supporting him. First get out of Irak, second end the war in Afganistan and when you get the troops for do a pre-emptive strike you can start to talk tough again to Elvis or Iran.

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    mareo2

    first of all america is certainly not the only country who relies on middle east oil or oil in general. just because wind up picking up the slack doesn't mean it's only our problem. the entire world would be screwed if the oil supply was compromised.

    Thats the rest of the world problem if they dont shift to electricity with the USA. The USA lead the world and the world follow their example if they want it. You win, they lose.

    no change in energy policy is going to change that reality in the mid to short term. period.

    The world is going to run out of Oil in the long term. Change in the mid term is good for the USA and the world. People can endure in the short term, because you win in the end.

    why do we see muslims threatening to kill artist like rushdie or actually killing van gogh?

    That is a problem for the police. A western fanatic killed a doctor for religious anti-abortions beliefs.

    like it or not this is not just a war over oil but a real holy war and cultural war.

    Ideals and religion like: Good, Allah, Fredom, Democracy, Justice, "bring culture to the barbarians", etc... are all excuses for war and war is about control of resources or revenge, everyone know that.

    in many was europe has a much bigger problem coming on the horizon than we do in the us.

    Thats is Europe's problem and is related to poverty. Link muslims with terrorists is just like link african-americans and latins with criminals.

    so please don't imply this is simply a problem because americans don't know how to conserve energy. it's a lot more complicated than that.

    Im very sorry, but I disagree with you. No Oil economy = no muslim power. Very simple solution: no money = no weapons.

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    mareo2

    i have a better idea, nuclear power plants. oh yeah, obama opposes those.

    I agree that thats one of the most stupid moves of these administration. Please dont confuse support to one policy with support with all what a leader do. It gives the impression that we are talking about a man and not about policies.

    but that wouldn't stop the islamofacist from trying control muslim world anyway. would you suggest just letting them do it with out trying to stop them?

    Why anyone can care about they control deserts if you dont rely on oil so much anymore?

    because if you do anything, and i mean anything including drawing cartoons, to oppose them you will be a target. would you suggest total appeasement?

    a) Why they are going to target you if you no longer need to secure a source of oil?

    b) How they are going to fund terrorism if you no longer buy so much oil? Their entire economy crumble.

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    mareo2

    Leveling Iran's nuclear facilities. Imagine how much less relevant this whole discussion about Iran's internal affairs would be.

    USA turning to electric trains and cars. Let's just imagine how much less relevant the whole war on terror would be.

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    mareo2

    I find amusing that some people say that is all the doings of the USA and other people saying that Obama is doing nothing. Most of the time, the trut is somewhere in the midle of the two extremists point of view.

    Posted in: Riot police use tear gas to halt protest in Iran

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