nigelboy's past comments

  • -6

    nigelboy

    Overall the imperialist military brothels only happened because that's what the imperialist military wanted and send agents to Korea to recruit women. Without the demand of the imperialist military there would not have been brothels with willing and forced prostitutes. All of the women were transported to the various occupied countries by military transportation using traveling documents issued by the imperial military. The military also set the rates and rules for the brothels and provided doctors too.

    Zichi. There was no "sending of agents to Korea". They were Koreans in Korea who did the recruiting, paying in advance to the parents, requesting attachment to the military, and operating the brothel.

    It must have been very clear to those in charge if a woman was a willing prostitute or not.

    "in charge" as in brothel operators as stated above.

    And stated in the Kono Statement,

    I'm talking about Korea and Korean comfort women which there is no evidence to suggest "administrative/military personnel directly took part in the recruitments".

    Also, if you agree that most of the comfort women are Korean, it's quite a contrast from the comfort women plaque which states

    "THE MORE THAN 200,000 WOMEN AND GIRLS WHO WERE ABDUCTED BY THE ARMED FORCES OF THE GOVERNMENT OF IMPERIAL JAPAN. 1930's - 1945"

    Posted in: S Korea, Japan resume 'comfort women' talks

  • -5

    nigelboy

    The official line remains the Kono Statement which PM Abe reviewed but decided against revising it and therefore stands by that statement, which also states,

    Zichi. Those information aren't new for nobody has denied the involvement by the military. However, the central issue here is who was doing the recruiting "against their own will, through coaxing, coercion, etc." which in case of Korea, there is no verifiable evidence to confirm that IJA personnel conducted such actions.

    Posted in: S Korea, Japan resume 'comfort women' talks

  • -7

    nigelboy

    No, you're just trying one of the many twists and turns you like to do on the subject but we both know that PM's, leading political figures, historians, professors, mayors and governors, chairmen of the likes of the national media, NHK, have all denied many aspects of the Imperialist war past, including the events of the military brothels and if they did that in Germany would end up in prisons.

    Questioning the validity and the accuracy of the statements made by civic groups, former comfort women, and Korean government does not make it a revision nor denial.

    Posted in: S Korea, Japan resume 'comfort women' talks

  • -8

    nigelboy

    Its a mistake and wrong to think like that. People suffered in the death camps by the millions but the Nazi sex slaves and victims of rape, also suffered so you can't lighten one suffering by trying to compare it with another and its just an insult to all those who suffered when you try to do just that.

    Then I kindly suggest you never bring up the Holocaust when discussing the issue of military brothels.

    As for denial and revisionism, its illegal in Germany and quite a few other European countries but not in Japan?

    As the review of the Kono statement indicated, the denials and revisionism were practiced by the Korean government.

    Posted in: S Korea, Japan resume 'comfort women' talks

  • -8

    nigelboy

    The fact that the Nazi also had forced military brothels does not lighten the horrors committed by the Imperial troops. The way of dealing with its war past is very different from the way Germany deals with it. The Imperial military had more than 2,000 brothels or 20 times the number used by the Nazi.

    In other words, compared to the Holocaust, what the Germans did in regards to military brothels amounts to a mere footnote.

    Strange how some state that 34,000 women were forced to serve in the Nazi brothels, but when it comes to the Imperialist military brothels, the same people will state no women were forced and in fact all the comfort women were prostitutes?

    The "same" people that you accuse of never made those accusations.

    Posted in: S Korea, Japan resume 'comfort women' talks

  • -1

    nigelboy

    Is it that freaking hard? No it's not. It's common sense, but sadly most Japanese parents do not have common sense and I am surprised more people here don't die daily from road accidents.

    Using common sense logic, the reason why "more people here don't die daily from road accidents" is because most Japanese parents do have common sense for I sincerely doubt these kids are lucky 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.

    Posted in: 3-year-old girl hit and killed by car in Osaka; driver arrested

  • 1

    nigelboy

    Im just confused about one thing though - maybe someone can explain - if he used a fake numberplate, Im just wondering how the police ever managed to trace the car to his address? Surely the whole point of a fake plate is that that CANT happen? So how did the police trace it? A silver yaris isnt exactly an unusual car so surely they didnt go round knocking on every silver yaris owners door? Just wondering how they found her, even with the fake plates Anyone know

    According to the various sources, the suspect may have used the "fake number plate" when he abducted her but the "plates" that the mother and the neighbor witnessed are real plates belonging to the suspect. In addition, it appears as though the police had him as a suspect as early as the 16th and had the police camped near his residence. Arrest and search warrant was issued after the verification of the number plate by another witness (in April).

    Posted in: Kidnap suspect said he threatened to kill girl unless she got into his car

  • 1

    nigelboy

    Except that the fake number plate is critical.

    Not in the way you interpret to be.

    http://www.nikkansports.com/general/news/p-gn-tp0-20140721-1338045.html

    As the above linked article indicates, the neighbor that witnessed the suspect changing the plates in April informed the police on the 18th. Amazingly, the said neighbor was able to remember the regional, hiragana, as well as the last four digits.

    Posted in: Kidnap suspect said he threatened to kill girl unless she got into his car

  • -1

    nigelboy

    Apparently, you missed my point which credited Abe for his deceiving, and untrustworthy behaviors. Based on what Abe has done, there is no convincing evidences showed Abe neither has crebility nor an interest in pursuing real peace with Japan’s neighbors. Whatever he said and says in terms of seaking peace have no real meaning.

    Nope. In this day and age, the reality of pursuing peace is to form alliances based on adherence of international law while at the same time being prepared to defend your nation as well as your key allies.

    Again, we are talking about China and SK who still uses this outdated overused "historical" card for their own political tool while the rest of the world have moved on (see Ossan's post about Japan's past enemies forming alliances) so there has never been an "intent" by them to even have a mature diplomatic relations. Let them continue I say.

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 3

    nigelboy

    PM Abe believes that Japan should be a “normal” country. Unfortunately, today's Japan is not a normal country. It will never be one while U.S. forces and bases continue to occupy its territory, and Japanese interests are subordinated to a clearly unequal relations in U.S.-Japan “alliance.”

    sfjp330

    The fact that U.S.-Japan security alliance was a one way street without the collective defense on the Japanese counterparts, one can conclude that U.S. interests were subordinated for they were merely a hired security guard for the past 50 plus years.

    With the U.S. focus on Asia and OPCON to expire 2015, the alliance of U.S.-Japan becomes a key foundation.

    “Because Japan has been a first class international citizen, I welcome its full participation in the family of nations.”

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 3

    nigelboy

    The point is that Abe has been proved to be one of the most untrusted leaders in the world at present moment even Japan’s long-term allies have doubts on him and thus keep eyes and ears on him for their own good.

    If you're talking about the U.S., the recent "reinterpretation" of Article 9 is not enough for they want more. As to the other countries EXCEPT SK and China, they have openly welcomed the change.

    As Abbott stated, “Japan should be judged on its actions today, not on its actions 70-odd years ago, and Japan has been an exemplary, an exemplary international citizen in the post-war era,”

    The perception of Japan by the two whiners (China and SK) are so far from global perspective that it's no wonder such compliments are never given to them by other countries.

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 0

    nigelboy

    I'm pretty sure Koreans are just pissed that Japanese politicians/high officials/media heads downplay/deny the atrocities committed by Imperial Japanese Army. South Korea and China aren't the only ones who are acting like a child here. Japan is doing that as well. One of the problem that prevents Japan/Japanese people from actually acknowledging the atrocities committed by their ancestors lies within its culture of pride. I'm pretty sure South Korea was quiet about all these issues, until Japanese politicians started visiting Yakusuni Shrines/denied the atrocities.

    Japanese PM's having been visiting Yasukuni for decades even after the enshrinment of so-called Class A. Even in the 90's, Korean government would send their military attache' to Yasukuni. Koreans, much like the Chinese are simply using this "war guilt campaign" against the Japanese as a political tool to distract their respective domestic problems.

    Posted in: China's Xi highlights Japan militarist past in Seoul speech

  • 0

    nigelboy

    Fair points, all. And I admit my first post tended toward hyperbole. But I'll stand by it. I would argue that prior cabinets / parliaments declined to address the Article 9 issue out of significantly more venal motivations. A desire to sit truly comfortably under U.S. military protection while devoting all national resources to an economic miracle, for example. (All the while playing the "look at us, poor Japan, open your import markets to us" card, I might add.)

    Weak argument. Revising the article (or redefining it) to have some sort of collective self defense does very little hinder post war Japanese economic rise. One could very well argue that it might have added more (stronger economic ties with U.S. as well as development of it's own domestic defence industry)

    Make no mistake--the government of Japan (post-war and pre-war) has never made decisions based on what might potentially be good for the average Japanese citizen. They have made decisions as they have always made them: based on the cold, cynical mathematics of power.

    Sorry. Are you referring to the bureacracy or the cabinet members? If you are talking about the latter, they are just one failed policy/one scandal away from being dissoluted never to be seen again.

    Posted in: Japan pushing on with reform of constitution despite fiery suicide bid

  • -2

    nigelboy

    Do you think ANY private Japanese individual has ANY say in what goes on in their government?

    Puzzling. Of course they do. If it were that EASY, prior cabinets would of revised it long time ago.

    Even with this rather trivial "setting limits/restrictions on collective self defense", the political parties and their elected members are still going back and forth. As to the Japanese language media, it appears you just skipped the political articles and editorials because major outlets such as Asahi and Sankei have opposite divergent views when it comes to this particular issue.

    As to the media coverage or the lack of details in it, bigfujiyama is absolutely correct for there are guidelines set forth by WHO in regards to reporting suicides or suicide attempts.

    http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/resource_media.pdf

    http://www8.cao.go.jp/jisatsutaisaku/link/kanren.html

    Posted in: Japan pushing on with reform of constitution despite fiery suicide bid

  • 1

    nigelboy

    The review can be found in English here

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/files/000042169.pdf

    In summary, the years long investigation by the government found no evidence of direct coersion by the military but the South Korean government insisted that such language should be included to "appease" their population and their new leadership.

    Posted in: Japan says it had S Korean input on 'comfort women' apology

  • -8

    nigelboy

    sfjp330

    We went over this before. If the number of comfort women in service is still being debated among the scholars, how in the world do anybody for that matter come with those figures of "three quarters of comfort women died in the hands of Japanese"?

    Wiki cites Supranational Criminal Prosecution of Sexual Violence which in turn cites War Crimes Against Women: Prosecution in International War Crimes Tribunals which in turn cites another paper and the loop continues. The problem with these activists who make money off of the issue of comfort women is that they base the high number of comfort women first then turns around and count the number of comfort women survivors and assume that since there are not many, "they must of died at the hands of Japanese" rhetoric. No reputable scholars would make that kind of leap in logic.

    As you to your assertion about "defeated Japan was able to switch its potion from that of aggressor to that of victim" you are sorely mistaken for GHQ occupied in Japan had a policy of just the opposite. The actual devastation of atomic bombs were sequestered while at the same time, the Tokyo Trials were heavily covered to portray Japan as an aggressor (.A Brief Explanation of the Categories of Deletions and Suppressions,dated 25 November,1946, SCAPIN 33 "CCD", SCAPIN16, War Guilt Information Program issued Feb 6, 1948 etc.)

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -8

    nigelboy

    And so the Japanese guidelines must take precedence over the stories of women victimized by the Japanese. Create a system that prostitutes women and then treat their lives and their life stories as worthless. All that prestige suddenly goes right out the window.

    No. It's historians including that of Seoul University who are questioning the validity of those statements.

    If a woman came forward with a claim against an American, it would not be treated in the same manner that some Japanese have treated the people they have wronged.

    As far as I know, there are no official apology from the U.S. government.

    There is no evidence this would apply to a Korean or Chinese "comfort woman." It certainly didn't apply to the Dutch women raped by the Japanese. Based on the way Japanese treat the reports of Korean comfort women today, it his hard to believe that the fanatical maniacs protecting the "prestige" of Imperial Japan would have received any charges from comfort women with any more seriousness.

    As to your first sentence, perhaps you and I differ the definition of "rape". And we're all AWARE of the ad nauseum repeated Semarang Case which the responsible ones were court martialed by IJA. The accusation of rape on the Semarang case came after the end of the war. By then, based on Potsdam declaration, IJA court was dismantled and therefore, the accused were tried and convicted via IMTFE.

    You keep writing things as though you were there. I was. And I can speak to my personal experience of two Westpac cruises and two years stationed in Asia. that what you claim was a small part of a much bigger picture.. Many American mothers welcomed sons returning with Vietnamese, Korean, Filipina, and -- yes -- Japanese "daughters." In the discussions I took part in, we counseled treating all women with respect, and for married men to remain true to their vows. We were far from perfect, but we had an idea of what perfect was -- and it didn't involve writing guidelines in support of sexual slavery. Hashimoto brings up these ignorant comparisons to his shame.

    What's shameful is the "facade" that U.S. uses to keep it's "clean" image. You have counseling. Great!! You also have so-called "strict" guidlines on prohibiting use of prostitutes. Great! And yet you have detailed records of U.S. military sanctioned medical doctors screening VD for these women. And yet you have flourishing sex trade business in the nearby area. Something just doesn't add up do they?

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -4

    nigelboy

    American GI's who committed rape were up against this: From Article 120 of the UCMJ, in effect during WWII: "(a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct."

    This was also the case for IJA as well.

    第八十六条 戦地又ハ帝国軍ノ占領地ニ於テ住民ノ財物ヲ掠奪シタル者ハ一年以上ノ有期懲役ニ処ス 2 前項ノ罪ヲ犯スニ当リ婦女ヲ強姦シタルトキハ無期又ハ七年以上ノ懲役ニ処ス

    Not "death" but minimum 7 years to "Muki" (life)

    LOL. Oh, you mean aside from the fact that women have come forward to tell their stories, and they conflict with the administrative guidelines published by the IJA's human resources department.

    Yes. We know that their "accusations" conflicts with the guidelines.

    Face it. U.S. is the mother of protecting "prestige of the military" by writing such guidelines and advertising them to the mothers, wives and girlfriends back home but when military brothels (and the illegal elements that no doubt becomes n inherent part of it) flourishes everywhere where they have occupied and stationed, it doesn't take but a few braincells to figure out the reality of the situation.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -4

    nigelboy

    You are playing a game of semantics. The United States, as a nation, was most certainly not "systematically involved." And none of your links proves that. Imperial Japan set the bar for "systematic involvement." For a nation to be "systematically involved" it first has to legalize sexual slavery. Japan did that; the U.S. did not. Then there has to be a formal (and often ad hoc) recruitment process on a massive scale. It's that massive recruitment process by agencies within the military or directly contracted to it that constitutes "systematic involvement" by a country.

    Refer to my post @Jun. 19, 2014 - 12:35AM JST

    You can call it what you want but simply turning a blind eye to "...Military brothels on Army base camps ("Sin Cities", "Disney-lands" or "boom-boom parlors") were built by decision of a division commander, a two-star general, and were under the direct operational control of a brigade commander with the rank of colonel. Clearly, Army brothels in Vietnam existedby the grace of Army Chief of Staff William C. Westmoreland, the United StatesEmbassy in Saigon, and the Pentagon.." does nothing to change the fact that it resulted in the sexual slavery of women. Keep at it.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -5

    nigelboy

    My personal experience has been this: When dealing with the wholesale, organized prostitution of foreign women by Japan in a history class in the U.S. -- as a part of an overview of WWII atrocities -- I have had history teachers who would indeed present the matter that U.S. troops were by no means innocent, and that rapes did occur. And we have yet to have one person here deny that. Usually mentioned is the fact that American servicemen were put on trial and sometimes executed when found guilty of rape or murder. American society is not one that accepts the systematic exploitation of women-as-sex-slaves as Japan's society did. U.S. involvement, such as it was and is, is on the fringes, not the mainstream.

    As I indicated in the above links, U.S. was systematically involved in "sexual slavery" which continued through Korean war and beyond.

    While an American citizen, the ones I consider "my people" are different. Whoever has had a great massacre visited on them had, I can assure with little doubt, committed acts which removed divine protection. That nation, whoever it was, reaped what they had sown. It is not known who the One will use to carry out justice for the crimes committed by a nation against others. Unlike Hashimoto, my "people" are taught that when chastisement has been received, it is a sign for us to look at ourselves and to repent of evil. Not to point at the wrongdoings of others. This approach differentiates me from many Americans (who are not "my people), but it doesn't prevent me from being a witness to acts committed by them and others. What Hashimoto is doing is very counter-productive and will lead to greater harm if pursued.

    So you don't know "the largest single day massacre in 20th century?" That's what I thought. Frankly, I'm not surprised based on my experience with an "American citizen".

    You brought up Schrijvers to try to make a point about rapes during the first ten days of occupation, and then just as quickly reject him when he adds the necessary context. Schrijvers goes into detail elsewhere in his book about the influence of Judeo-Christian impulses on American actions in the war throughout the Pacific. Where the Japanese had destroyed many churches in the Philippines (for example), and killed or otherwise abused ministers and clergy, the Americans came in and helped rebuild them -- worshiping together with the locals.

    And what does this have to do with continuing rape in occupied territories and the continued involvement in the sexual slavery in these areas by the U.S. military?

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

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