nigelboy's past comments

  • 5

    nigelboy

    Second comment is flat out false. Kono statement has never been "reversed". Nor has it been "undermined". Abe administration has taken great pains to state that they will uphold the Kono statement as the twenty seventh apology tendered. I think the ROK wants to pretend that the Kono statement has been revoked because the whole world now knows that the government of ROK was an active participant in drafting the statement. Japan wanted to use the words that would once and for all end this nonsense so they asked the "experts" in ROK to assist them with the wording.

    Excellent summary.

    Not only in "assisting", they assured that the issue will be settled completely if "Japan does this, and that" which the Japanese counterparts COMPLIED. But nooooo.

    This exchange is all revealed in the Kono review report which the usual bashing crowd has yet to read. But if one were just able to read through it, they'll realize that despite complete lack of evidence to support these ex Korean comfort womens' accusations, the Japanese government went ahead and apologized and offered compensation anyways.

    Now with the retraction by Asahi on the past comfort women articles which includes falsehood of Yoshida's statement and the misrepresentation of Teishintai, many in the past who were sympathetic towards them are doing about face. The mass media (in prior years, Asahi) were able to turn the consensus into one direction and now also worked itself to go to another direction.

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  • 6

    nigelboy

    Seoul would absolutely refuse to allow Japanese soldiers to take part in the counter-operation

    And of course, Japan will not allow U.S. force stationed in Japan to deploy in Korea when $hit hits the fan.

    http://www.j-cast.com/2014/07/17210825.html

    When is OPCON?

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  • 1

    nigelboy

    So judging by all the (really puzzling) negative votes on my comment above, everyone here is looking forward to having more people getting lost more frequently? Good, good. Sadistic crowd around on this site today...

    The more appropriate translation would be "East Yamanote Route" and "West Yamanote Route"

    They keep trying to make Haneda the hub of Asia, but with all these unnecessary construction projects jacking everything up, it'll still be one of the most expensive places to land in the world and the carriers won't buy it.

    Smith again. Who's 'they'? Perhaps you haven't traveled by air lately but many carriers with intercontinental flights are shifting to Haneda (United just announced SFO-HND starting in october) with the current schedule of 80 flights daily. With this, they anticipate more passengers so it's no brainer for companies like JREast to take the opportunity considering that with the anticipated increase Keihin and Monorail would not be able to meet (60% usage by Haneda passengers, as of now).

    These are "necessary" construction projects because carriers are in fact, 'buying it'.

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  • 0

    nigelboy

    could, given enough time and extensive research, but why should I? For work or study, of course I would. But to prove a point on an internet forum to the likes of you? Forget it. Anyway, it was you who brought up the whole topic of left wing politicians courting right wing votes. I think it''s a pretty stupid assertion personally, as right-wing voters already have plenty of right-wing, pro-Yasukuni candidates to choose from whose views on other matters more closely reflect their own, so for left-wing candidates it's a waste of time to get on the Yasukuni bandwagon as well. If they have, there isn't much evidence from the last two general elections to indicate that it's increased their share of the vote. But anyway, you raised the whole left wing issue, not me. If you want to say anything else about it, I suggest you back it up yourself.

    Your comment.

    "But then they wouldn't be able to show off their right-wing nationalist credentials to all those right-wing, nationalist voters and campaign donors, would they?"

    "Japanese politicians annoy them with tacky vote-winning gestures it "

    With the above, I asked for the list of the lawmakers who visited Yasukuni that day for "those right-wing, nationalist voters and campaign donors" need some sort of verification, right?

    You couldn't provide one.

    Then you go on this tirade

    "They only need to get the message across to the kind of people in their constituencies who are likely to be impressed by such shallow posturing, and for that they can use blogs, newsletters and discreet chats"

    The 'operative" word here is "discreet" so the implications here is that these lawmakers wanted to get this messsage across to the so-called "right" but discreet enough so that the "left" or "middle" wouldn't be able to notice it.

    Hence, I asked for the password.

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  • 2

    nigelboy

    Who? Basically Korea, China, and Korea-led UN. Nobody else really cares

    True.

    What people tend to ignore that this issue was still on going is the general support among the Japanese populance. Even though zichi has provided those "claims" , those carried significant amount of 'weight' simply because the general populance of Japan believed in the story told by Yoshida or the numbers of 200,000 (which was the number of Teishintai, not comfort women). Once that's been retracted by Asahi and made headlines, Japanese people who were sympathetic felt they were deceived and they no longer care what these former comfort women "claims" are now. That's how mass media works to the general populance in Japan as it did 30 years ago.

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  • 3

    nigelboy

    Whirled Peas

    Thanks for the post. Very informative. You summarized them very well.

    To note, more detailed information can be found on the Asian Women Fund site (which includes post interviews from key individuals who were involved in the formation and distribution of funds) as well as the recent Kono Statement review by the committee.

    It really highlights the failure of the Korean government to honor their agreement and their need to keep this issue alive.

    Posted in: Pope urges Koreans to forge peace; greets ex-comfort women

  • -2

    nigelboy

    So far, you haven’t mentioned the evidence I presented which shows ICJ is not included as a means agreed by two countries to solve the disputes. If you are right, why do you think such evidence exists?

    調停-mediation, legal means which includes ICJ.

    One more thing, if there was an agreement by both governments to settle this matter(?) via ICJ, please tell when and how it was made?

    The agreement was made on the June 22, 1965. How? Who cares.

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  • -2

    nigelboy

    You seem to be implying that left wing voters are basically gullible dupes so unless you're admitting to being gullible I assume you're a right winger yourself, and would therefore know all about secret passwords. Either that or you're *trying *to make some kind of joke.

    Your post in essence becomes a joke because unless you can prove that a lawmaker can receive additional right wing votes but not lose any from the left wing, it's pointless.

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  • -2

    nigelboy

    What Kaneko stated afterwards in his blog is essentially correct. The "Ainu" are Japanese for there are no distincition in their Koseki nor Jyuminhyo. They live and work under the same conditions and same set of laws. But what Kankeko was referring to is the special priviledges given to by 'Ainu" in regards to low interest home loans and subsidies for driver license, and scholarships subsidized by the local government. So how does one qualify for "Ainu"?

    Zichi gave the link to The Ainu Association of Hokkaido. There are no 'set' criteria. Once could simply claim to be decendents or married to one and you are 'officially' certified as one. After that, you are entitled to the above subsidies from the local government.

    As a member of Sapporo Municipal Assembly, he's not the only lawmaker that received complaints from the voting public about this scheme.

    Posted in: Even if there are Ainu, they are no more than Japanese who are descended from Ainu. All they do is insist relentlessly on exercising their rights. It's absurd, and I can't explain it to the taxpayers.

  • 0

    nigelboy

    Actually, the Tokyo Trials ruled that the actions are indeed breaches. Which is not very hard, Nigelboy. If you are intellectually honest, you should recognize that there is no good, neutral reasons to stage a Kan-Tokuen and seizure of merchant ships that are not heading into Japanese jurisdiction given the circumstances.

    And you still haven't given me a convincing reason of any kind as to why this was not notified to the Japanese embassy in Moskow. I repeat, it appears the "reasoning" is "let's find something that may be interpreted as breach after the fact". Heck. You could very well state that Japan AIDED the Soviets and breached the alliance with Germany as a result of the neutrality pact for the Soviets were able to shift their forces Westward.

    It makes no substantive difference, and only increases the risk that Japan would decide to use the divisions in Manchuria for an attack.

    Of course it does. It goes to the heart of the argument.

    They might be able to try. The court, however, will not necessarily accept that argument, and one would expect neutral judges to take into consideration the circumstances (such as the plaintiff really, really not being able to risk offending the defense at that moment).

    ??? Makes no sense at all. And I hate to break it to you but Japan did offer to settle this case via ICJ which the Soviets refused. There is a reason why U.S. as well as European Parliament recognizes the sovereignty of the islands belonging to Japan.

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  • 1

    nigelboy

    Yes Zichi,

    We know their 'claims' and their accusations. The validity of their claims, however, have lost any sense of credibility as a result of the review and the retraction. This is what happens when pushed too much losing support from those who actually cared in the past.

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  • 2

    nigelboy

    "Also, regarding the involvement of the military in the recruitment of the comfort women, the ROK requested **wording that was equivalent to “the military or recruiters who were instructed by the military,” or in other words, that the recruitment was carried out by the military or that the military instructed other recruiters to do so. But the Japanese side considered that the **recruitment was not carried out by the military, but mainly by recruiters who had done so based on the “intentions” of the military, and hence could not accept that the military were the main party that carried out the recruitment. Also, as the Japan side could not confirm that the military “instructed” the recruiters to carry out the recruitment, it proposed that the expression be changed to that the military “requested” the recruiters carry out the recruitment. In response to this, the ROK wanted the expression “ordered” used for the involvement of the military in both the establishment of the comfort stations and the recruitment of the comfort women, but the Japanese side did not accept it. Ultimately, it was decided on the wording that the comfort stations were established and managed"

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  • 0

    nigelboy

    Well if its over as you put it, does that mean there'll be no more revisionist attempts from the Japanese government on the issue of the comfort women and other wartime atrocities. He offers no further words of regret just dismisses the UN?

    It's over. The only thing I can forsee are the possibility to call up Kono and Asahi personnel via Diet inquiry. Whatever the case may be, those Japanese public who were sympathetic to these comfort women in the past are no longer so as a result of Kono review and the recent retraction by Asahi 30 years after the damage has been done.

    It's a welcome sign to finally put a nail in the coffin to this overlevereged card.

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  • 2

    nigelboy

    No mention about comfort women from Suga on Aug. 7?

    ??

    「慰安婦問題は日韓請求権協定により完全に解決済みだというのが、わが 国の一貫した立場だ」

    It's over.

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  • 1

    nigelboy

    Last month, the government rejected an assertion by the U.N.’s human rights watchdog that it should accept full blame for pressing Asian women into wartime sexual slavery in military brothels, saying it was not obligated to do so.

    Their advice is based on the following U.N report issued in 1996 so their shouldn't be any more "blame"

    "..In March 1997, The Asahi Shimbun carried a special article on the reports about the comfort women issue. However, the newspaper only said it was unable to confirm the authenticity of Yoshida’s remarks.

    Yoshida’s remarks were cited by a 1996 U.N. Human Rights Commission report compiled by Radhika Coomaraswamy, helping propagate a misunderstanding in the international community that the forcible recruitment of comfort women took place..."

    This issue is over as far as the Japanese government is concerned as per Suga's response on August 7th. Perhaps he knew this retraction by Asahi was coming eventually where the ripple effect would no doubt change the Japanese populace general view on this much debated subject. It's a much needed "nail in the coffin" to this over leveraged card.

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  • 4

    nigelboy

    Do you really want to keep going in circles? If you'd like to have your posts have any credibility, back up your claims with something. Otherwise you are some guy who is replying to a well written article with arguments backing up its claims, by stomping his feet and saying 'No! No! I said no!'.

    I did. You can't respond other than your blind faith to this ridiculous link.

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  • 4

    nigelboy

    And once again we are back to an article that provides supporting arguments, vs. you who is some hack spouting off on the internet. I think we all know which one has more credibility.

    A link that claims an apology comes in a form of a bill submitted to the house had no credibility. Those who believe this garbage merely proved him/herself that they are absolutely clueless in the legislative procedure of Japan.

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  • 3

    nigelboy

    Not if it is to be taken seriously as an official apology. There has never been an official apology. And that link lays out its arguments with supporting arguments, rather than you who just spouted off a bunch of random crap about why you didn't like it. Sorry, but the document has a lot more validity than your post.

    There are NO "supporting argument" to begin with starting at #1 where an apology is NEVER a bill.

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  • 3

    nigelboy

    Link: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jiaponline.org%2Fdocuments%2FWhatConstitutesApology.doc&ei=V1HxU6TmJ-iY1AXMkYGgCA&usg=AFQjCNEIuahqO4P9Ni0v1mSmWttCy-Jg&bvm=bv.73231344,d.bGE

    Not this crap again.

    Your link is somewhat laughable considering that an apology is NEVER "a bill passed by the Diet. " and that apology/statements through the Diet (one house, either lower or upper) are "resolutions" which is non binding. Secondly, the notion that cabinet statements have to be during the Diet session to be "official" is utter BS for first and foremost, the premise of "an issue as important as an apology," is false considering the hierarchy of cabinet statements or pending decisions during the Diet sessions are bills submitted to the Diet (国会提出案件) and national/domestic policy. This is a no brainer since Diet sessions purpose is to pass important legislative issue as opposed being "get bogged down " by "an apology". As to the "a statement by a prime minister in an official communiqué while on an overseas visit;" why does it have to be a communique as opposed to Prime Minister Miyazawa making the following statement in Seoul?

    http://www.ioc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~worldjpn/documents/texts/exdpm/19920117.S1J.html

    This is yet again, another example of nitpicking and finding reasons not to accept an apology. Official apology is simply an apology issued/stated by an official in an official capacity and nothing more. The mere fact that the Korean government went lengths to negotiate the wording of the Kono statement proves this. And subsequently,"there was a straightforward expression of remorse and apology, **given by the STATE **to those concerned" per Korean government

    With the recent retraction by Asahi, this issue is over. These Koreans who back this cause and of course, the Korean government pushed this issue to a point where it alienated the sympathetic populace in Japan.

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  • 0

    nigelboy

    Did I say the statement by Japanese government you cited has something to do with 1965 Treaty? No, I didn’t. What I meant was Japanese attempt to take Dokdo conflict to ICJ violates Korea-Japan Treaty.

    Which part? Cite the part!

    Why don’t you explain “the special agreement” in your own words if you refute me? You agree the special agreement you referred to has nothing to do with Korea-Japan Treaty, don’t you? That’s what matters.

    Why would it matter? It's basically an agreement by both governments to settle this matter via ICJ. Why do you not understand this simple concept?

    It doesn’t matter how you think. The fact Japanese people should know is Japanese government in 1965 agreed to not use ICJ in solving disputes between Korea and Japan.

    That's not what it states. This is getting quite ridiculous.

    In this official document, ICJ is not included as a means agreed by two countries to solve the disputes as Mr. Matsusmote stated and Asahi Newspaper reported in 1965.

    調停-arbitration, legal means.

    This document was cited August 21' 2012

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/announce/2012/8/0821_01.html

    Simple. Slam dunk.

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