nigelboy's past comments

  • -1

    nigelboy

    Apparently, you missed my point which credited Abe for his deceiving, and untrustworthy behaviors. Based on what Abe has done, there is no convincing evidences showed Abe neither has crebility nor an interest in pursuing real peace with Japan’s neighbors. Whatever he said and says in terms of seaking peace have no real meaning.

    Nope. In this day and age, the reality of pursuing peace is to form alliances based on adherence of international law while at the same time being prepared to defend your nation as well as your key allies.

    Again, we are talking about China and SK who still uses this outdated overused "historical" card for their own political tool while the rest of the world have moved on (see Ossan's post about Japan's past enemies forming alliances) so there has never been an "intent" by them to even have a mature diplomatic relations. Let them continue I say.

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 3

    nigelboy

    PM Abe believes that Japan should be a “normal” country. Unfortunately, today's Japan is not a normal country. It will never be one while U.S. forces and bases continue to occupy its territory, and Japanese interests are subordinated to a clearly unequal relations in U.S.-Japan “alliance.”

    sfjp330

    The fact that U.S.-Japan security alliance was a one way street without the collective defense on the Japanese counterparts, one can conclude that U.S. interests were subordinated for they were merely a hired security guard for the past 50 plus years.

    With the U.S. focus on Asia and OPCON to expire 2015, the alliance of U.S.-Japan becomes a key foundation.

    “Because Japan has been a first class international citizen, I welcome its full participation in the family of nations.”

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 3

    nigelboy

    The point is that Abe has been proved to be one of the most untrusted leaders in the world at present moment even Japan’s long-term allies have doubts on him and thus keep eyes and ears on him for their own good.

    If you're talking about the U.S., the recent "reinterpretation" of Article 9 is not enough for they want more. As to the other countries EXCEPT SK and China, they have openly welcomed the change.

    As Abbott stated, “Japan should be judged on its actions today, not on its actions 70-odd years ago, and Japan has been an exemplary, an exemplary international citizen in the post-war era,”

    The perception of Japan by the two whiners (China and SK) are so far from global perspective that it's no wonder such compliments are never given to them by other countries.

    Posted in: Abe says he is determined to pursue peace in Asia

  • 0

    nigelboy

    I'm pretty sure Koreans are just pissed that Japanese politicians/high officials/media heads downplay/deny the atrocities committed by Imperial Japanese Army. South Korea and China aren't the only ones who are acting like a child here. Japan is doing that as well. One of the problem that prevents Japan/Japanese people from actually acknowledging the atrocities committed by their ancestors lies within its culture of pride. I'm pretty sure South Korea was quiet about all these issues, until Japanese politicians started visiting Yakusuni Shrines/denied the atrocities.

    Japanese PM's having been visiting Yasukuni for decades even after the enshrinment of so-called Class A. Even in the 90's, Korean government would send their military attache' to Yasukuni. Koreans, much like the Chinese are simply using this "war guilt campaign" against the Japanese as a political tool to distract their respective domestic problems.

    Posted in: China's Xi highlights Japan militarist past in Seoul speech

  • 0

    nigelboy

    Fair points, all. And I admit my first post tended toward hyperbole. But I'll stand by it. I would argue that prior cabinets / parliaments declined to address the Article 9 issue out of significantly more venal motivations. A desire to sit truly comfortably under U.S. military protection while devoting all national resources to an economic miracle, for example. (All the while playing the "look at us, poor Japan, open your import markets to us" card, I might add.)

    Weak argument. Revising the article (or redefining it) to have some sort of collective self defense does very little hinder post war Japanese economic rise. One could very well argue that it might have added more (stronger economic ties with U.S. as well as development of it's own domestic defence industry)

    Make no mistake--the government of Japan (post-war and pre-war) has never made decisions based on what might potentially be good for the average Japanese citizen. They have made decisions as they have always made them: based on the cold, cynical mathematics of power.

    Sorry. Are you referring to the bureacracy or the cabinet members? If you are talking about the latter, they are just one failed policy/one scandal away from being dissoluted never to be seen again.

    Posted in: Japan pushing on with reform of constitution despite fiery suicide bid

  • -2

    nigelboy

    Do you think ANY private Japanese individual has ANY say in what goes on in their government?

    Puzzling. Of course they do. If it were that EASY, prior cabinets would of revised it long time ago.

    Even with this rather trivial "setting limits/restrictions on collective self defense", the political parties and their elected members are still going back and forth. As to the Japanese language media, it appears you just skipped the political articles and editorials because major outlets such as Asahi and Sankei have opposite divergent views when it comes to this particular issue.

    As to the media coverage or the lack of details in it, bigfujiyama is absolutely correct for there are guidelines set forth by WHO in regards to reporting suicides or suicide attempts.

    http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/resource_media.pdf

    http://www8.cao.go.jp/jisatsutaisaku/link/kanren.html

    Posted in: Japan pushing on with reform of constitution despite fiery suicide bid

  • 1

    nigelboy

    The review can be found in English here

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/mofaj/files/000042169.pdf

    In summary, the years long investigation by the government found no evidence of direct coersion by the military but the South Korean government insisted that such language should be included to "appease" their population and their new leadership.

    Posted in: Japan says it had S Korean input on 'comfort women' apology

  • -8

    nigelboy

    sfjp330

    We went over this before. If the number of comfort women in service is still being debated among the scholars, how in the world do anybody for that matter come with those figures of "three quarters of comfort women died in the hands of Japanese"?

    Wiki cites Supranational Criminal Prosecution of Sexual Violence which in turn cites War Crimes Against Women: Prosecution in International War Crimes Tribunals which in turn cites another paper and the loop continues. The problem with these activists who make money off of the issue of comfort women is that they base the high number of comfort women first then turns around and count the number of comfort women survivors and assume that since there are not many, "they must of died at the hands of Japanese" rhetoric. No reputable scholars would make that kind of leap in logic.

    As you to your assertion about "defeated Japan was able to switch its potion from that of aggressor to that of victim" you are sorely mistaken for GHQ occupied in Japan had a policy of just the opposite. The actual devastation of atomic bombs were sequestered while at the same time, the Tokyo Trials were heavily covered to portray Japan as an aggressor (.A Brief Explanation of the Categories of Deletions and Suppressions,dated 25 November,1946, SCAPIN 33 "CCD", SCAPIN16, War Guilt Information Program issued Feb 6, 1948 etc.)

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -8

    nigelboy

    And so the Japanese guidelines must take precedence over the stories of women victimized by the Japanese. Create a system that prostitutes women and then treat their lives and their life stories as worthless. All that prestige suddenly goes right out the window.

    No. It's historians including that of Seoul University who are questioning the validity of those statements.

    If a woman came forward with a claim against an American, it would not be treated in the same manner that some Japanese have treated the people they have wronged.

    As far as I know, there are no official apology from the U.S. government.

    There is no evidence this would apply to a Korean or Chinese "comfort woman." It certainly didn't apply to the Dutch women raped by the Japanese. Based on the way Japanese treat the reports of Korean comfort women today, it his hard to believe that the fanatical maniacs protecting the "prestige" of Imperial Japan would have received any charges from comfort women with any more seriousness.

    As to your first sentence, perhaps you and I differ the definition of "rape". And we're all AWARE of the ad nauseum repeated Semarang Case which the responsible ones were court martialed by IJA. The accusation of rape on the Semarang case came after the end of the war. By then, based on Potsdam declaration, IJA court was dismantled and therefore, the accused were tried and convicted via IMTFE.

    You keep writing things as though you were there. I was. And I can speak to my personal experience of two Westpac cruises and two years stationed in Asia. that what you claim was a small part of a much bigger picture.. Many American mothers welcomed sons returning with Vietnamese, Korean, Filipina, and -- yes -- Japanese "daughters." In the discussions I took part in, we counseled treating all women with respect, and for married men to remain true to their vows. We were far from perfect, but we had an idea of what perfect was -- and it didn't involve writing guidelines in support of sexual slavery. Hashimoto brings up these ignorant comparisons to his shame.

    What's shameful is the "facade" that U.S. uses to keep it's "clean" image. You have counseling. Great!! You also have so-called "strict" guidlines on prohibiting use of prostitutes. Great! And yet you have detailed records of U.S. military sanctioned medical doctors screening VD for these women. And yet you have flourishing sex trade business in the nearby area. Something just doesn't add up do they?

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -4

    nigelboy

    American GI's who committed rape were up against this: From Article 120 of the UCMJ, in effect during WWII: "(a) Any person subject to this chapter who commits an act of sexual intercourse with a female not his wife, by force and without consent, is guilty of rape and shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct."

    This was also the case for IJA as well.

    第八十六条 戦地又ハ帝国軍ノ占領地ニ於テ住民ノ財物ヲ掠奪シタル者ハ一年以上ノ有期懲役ニ処ス 2 前項ノ罪ヲ犯スニ当リ婦女ヲ強姦シタルトキハ無期又ハ七年以上ノ懲役ニ処ス

    Not "death" but minimum 7 years to "Muki" (life)

    LOL. Oh, you mean aside from the fact that women have come forward to tell their stories, and they conflict with the administrative guidelines published by the IJA's human resources department.

    Yes. We know that their "accusations" conflicts with the guidelines.

    Face it. U.S. is the mother of protecting "prestige of the military" by writing such guidelines and advertising them to the mothers, wives and girlfriends back home but when military brothels (and the illegal elements that no doubt becomes n inherent part of it) flourishes everywhere where they have occupied and stationed, it doesn't take but a few braincells to figure out the reality of the situation.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -4

    nigelboy

    You are playing a game of semantics. The United States, as a nation, was most certainly not "systematically involved." And none of your links proves that. Imperial Japan set the bar for "systematic involvement." For a nation to be "systematically involved" it first has to legalize sexual slavery. Japan did that; the U.S. did not. Then there has to be a formal (and often ad hoc) recruitment process on a massive scale. It's that massive recruitment process by agencies within the military or directly contracted to it that constitutes "systematic involvement" by a country.

    Refer to my post @Jun. 19, 2014 - 12:35AM JST

    You can call it what you want but simply turning a blind eye to "...Military brothels on Army base camps ("Sin Cities", "Disney-lands" or "boom-boom parlors") were built by decision of a division commander, a two-star general, and were under the direct operational control of a brigade commander with the rank of colonel. Clearly, Army brothels in Vietnam existedby the grace of Army Chief of Staff William C. Westmoreland, the United StatesEmbassy in Saigon, and the Pentagon.." does nothing to change the fact that it resulted in the sexual slavery of women. Keep at it.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -5

    nigelboy

    My personal experience has been this: When dealing with the wholesale, organized prostitution of foreign women by Japan in a history class in the U.S. -- as a part of an overview of WWII atrocities -- I have had history teachers who would indeed present the matter that U.S. troops were by no means innocent, and that rapes did occur. And we have yet to have one person here deny that. Usually mentioned is the fact that American servicemen were put on trial and sometimes executed when found guilty of rape or murder. American society is not one that accepts the systematic exploitation of women-as-sex-slaves as Japan's society did. U.S. involvement, such as it was and is, is on the fringes, not the mainstream.

    As I indicated in the above links, U.S. was systematically involved in "sexual slavery" which continued through Korean war and beyond.

    While an American citizen, the ones I consider "my people" are different. Whoever has had a great massacre visited on them had, I can assure with little doubt, committed acts which removed divine protection. That nation, whoever it was, reaped what they had sown. It is not known who the One will use to carry out justice for the crimes committed by a nation against others. Unlike Hashimoto, my "people" are taught that when chastisement has been received, it is a sign for us to look at ourselves and to repent of evil. Not to point at the wrongdoings of others. This approach differentiates me from many Americans (who are not "my people), but it doesn't prevent me from being a witness to acts committed by them and others. What Hashimoto is doing is very counter-productive and will lead to greater harm if pursued.

    So you don't know "the largest single day massacre in 20th century?" That's what I thought. Frankly, I'm not surprised based on my experience with an "American citizen".

    You brought up Schrijvers to try to make a point about rapes during the first ten days of occupation, and then just as quickly reject him when he adds the necessary context. Schrijvers goes into detail elsewhere in his book about the influence of Judeo-Christian impulses on American actions in the war throughout the Pacific. Where the Japanese had destroyed many churches in the Philippines (for example), and killed or otherwise abused ministers and clergy, the Americans came in and helped rebuild them -- worshiping together with the locals.

    And what does this have to do with continuing rape in occupied territories and the continued involvement in the sexual slavery in these areas by the U.S. military?

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -7

    nigelboy

    If you are suggesting that the U.S. teach kids that America's entry into the war to defeat the Nazis and Imperial Japan was a bad thing, you may as well accompany your suggestion with the sound of a cuckoo clock. Despite the isolated, sporadic incidences of criminal behavior, taking Germany and Japan down was morally just

    No. I'm specifically talking about the U.S. involvement in the exploitation of foreign women (rape and involvement inin sexual slavery) during war time. But I'm quite glad that you keep on the "like much American popular culture, portrays World War II as a “good war” fought by America’s “greatest generation.” narrative.

    My education taught me to question all that was being presented to me. It also taught me to be better attuned to the Big Lie and the people like the neo-Nazis and Japanese revisionists who employ it at every step. What the revisionists are trying to cover up is their feeling of superiority over other Asians. This might be what sets up the conditions for continued mistreatment and exploitation of other people. The person who says "We were wrong, but you were wrong too" -- and wants to teach that to others is morally bankrupt.

    IMHO, the only morally bankrupt people are those who doesn't practice what they preach. You are displaying this behavior quite well.

    I have owned a copy of Shrijvers' book (The GI War Against Japan) since it came out, and have read it through. His notes on the Okinawa and Kanagawa rape numbers point to it being sourced from Yuki Tanaka's book: Hidden Horrors: Japanese War Crimes in World War II. While horrible, those crimes are miniscule compared to the ones by the Japanese documented by Dr. Tanaka in "stomach-turning detail." Yes, Americans should be taught these things.

    Because you refuse the even look into the autrocities conducted by your people. Quick question. Do you know the largest single day massacre in 20th century? And no. It ain't the atomic bombs. This is what they don't teach in U.S. textbooks so again, thanks for displaying the "by product".

    Lacking in integrity is the statement, by itself, of 1336 rapes in Kanagawa in the first ten days of occupation. Without trying to evade the impact of the heinous crime of rape, the fact is that, as the occupation took hold, the incidents of rape dramatically decreased. (Your cutting off the sentence as you did makes it appear as though the GIs were just getting started -- when in fact, it was the opposite.)

    Not really. If it continued, Japan as a country that we know today would cease to exist. And your insistence that the reason this did not continue is based on Judeo-Christian principles is pure horse manure for there was an establishment of RAA and "pan pan" girls thereafter.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -1

    nigelboy

    In other words - In general unlocked cars with the engine running don't increase the odds that a car thief will pick your car over one that is locked and the engine isn't running.

    Yeah. Because you're completely disregarding the ramafication afterwards.

    In other words, if I was a car thief, would you prefer a easy access but an immediate reporting to the authorities or harder access but an hours reporting to the authorities?

    Posted in: Car stolen with two young children in back seat

  • 1

    nigelboy

    That is not an answer to my question. If a person is looking to steal a car, any car, what would be more attractive than a car that is unlocked with the key in the ignition and the engine turned on?

    Actually Dutchduck does have a point in that such above condition when stolen has a higher chance of being apprehended by the authorities than cars that are let's say, parked at night when people are asleep.

    As my link indicates, 3 out of 4 cars that are stolen are "keyless".

    Posted in: Car stolen with two young children in back seat

  • -6

    nigelboy

    Zichi

    Your links show nothing to support your argument that "The imperialist military ordered agents to find and locate women."

    A military unit requesting the top to furnish more women is simply a request. Whether such request can be granted is based on the availability of women which is solely dependent on the indivdiual operators ability to recruit them. How these individuals recruited them is well documented (advertisements in newspapers with advance payment incentives).

    .

    Despite the detailed regulations, the spread of sexually transmitted diseases, violence, and alcohol use in the stations indicate that there was little attention paid to the enforcement of rules.

    Then why would there be hundreds of reports in the AWF archives about the disease screening results, reprimand issued to soldiers in brothel houses for their irratic behavior, and the implementation of prepaid ticket due to some soldiers skipping payments?

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -4

    nigelboy

    "...The American military got into the prostitution business by degrees,an escalation process linked to the escalation of the war. Underlying the escalation was the assumption that men at war required the sexual use of women's bodies. Reporter Arnett saw the gradual acceptance of U.S. military-controlled and -regulated brothels as a natural outgrowth of what he called "the McNamara theory.."

    "...Military brothels on Army base camps ("Sin Cities", "Disney-lands" or "boom-boom parlors") were built by decision of a division commander, a two-star general, and were under the direct operational control of a brigade commander with the rank of colonel. Clearly, Army brothels in Vietnam existedby the grace of Army Chief of Staff William C. Westmoreland, the United StatesEmbassy in Saigon, and the Pentagon.."

    "It seems likely that many if not most of the Southeast Asian prostitutes employed by U.S. military personnel during the conflict in Vietnam and, later, in ports-of-call in Thailand and around U.S. military installations in the Philippines were minors"

    Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape -Susan Brownmiller

    .."Traffickers work within this system. Recruiters who work for foreign employers travel around the countryside offering poor young women opportunities for work abroad, often giving parents **advance payments **on their daughters’ wages (Cruz, 2002). As thousands of Filipinas go abroad expecting to find work, many are now in circumstances of sexual exploitation by US troops in South Korea similar to those they were in when the U.S. military bases were in the Philippines..."

    Modern-Day Comfort Women:The U.S. Military, Transnational Crime, and the Trafficking of Women

    ..."Sex Among Allies is, nonetheless, an important study that deals with Korean prostitution around American military installations from the 50s to the late 80s, particularly with their change prompted by the "Nixon" Doctrine of 1971. The premise that not only did prostitution thrive among American servicemembers and Korean women during this time but that it was sanctioned by the American military and the Korean government is alarming. As such, the illegal business were allegedly managed by local police and enforced by club owners. Negative impacts on society such as rampant spreading of venereal disease, racial tensions among white and black soldiers (and local business owners) and the social stigma of association was the women's to bear alone. The book's objectively is called into question by placing virtually all blame on both governments' efforts to promote prostitution as a means of recreation for soldiers; the women to sacrifice themselves to be "personal ambassadors" from Korea. Many of these objections were addressed in a mass cleanup effort in the early 1970s. The story Professor Moon tells, however, is unmistakably genuine. The social stigma of such work forced many women, mostly from low educational backgrounds, to be stuck in a constant cycle of debt and abuse with little chance to better themselves. .."

    Sex Among Allies: Military Prostitution in US-Korea Relations

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -5

    nigelboy

    What history books are you referring to? There are books in the US which cover the subject in detail. All it takes is someone with the desire to research the subject.

    History books used at schools. Face it. Majority of the population are not interested in the "desire to research the subject" but the historical narrative that U.S. teaches to their kids is that, "like much American popular culture, portrays World War II as a “good war” fought by America’s “greatest generation.”

    The Americans did not run brothels as the Japanese did. There was no condoning -- official or otherwise. No locals were pressured to pimp out women for U.S. troops, as the Japanese did for their troops. Yes, I claim that Judeo-Christian values have a lot to do with it. Hashimoto speaks about rapes, but he fails to mention the fact that many more thousands of Americans formed relationships with and married women from Germany, Britain, France, Italy, Korea, Japan, Philippines, etc.

    You represent the classic case of the by product of the U.S. education system.

    Taken by Force: Rape and American GIs in Europe during World War II J Robert Lilly. ISBN 978-0-230-50647-3 p.12, Schrijvers, Peter (2002). The GI War Against Japan. New York City: New York University Press. p. 212. ISBN 0814798160

    It cites there were reported 14000 rapes by US soldiers in European theatre, 10000 rapes in Okinawa, and 1336 rapes in Kanagawa in the first ten days of occupation.

    Judeo Christian value my XXX

    Too bad for the revisionists. Once the top brass at "IJA" found out what was going on, they knew they would not get away with it. But up until that moment, the dozens of Japanese who were involved in rounding up the women, preparing the house to be used as a brothel and putting everything in place all thought it was perfectly OK. They were essentially no different from Japanese troops anywhere. Japan being the "group-oriented" society it is and adverse to individualism. The Japanese were better able to hide their tracks elsewhere. The system was still the system. Men had a need and the conquerors would find a way to supply it.

    The above post does not make sense at all other than your usual "IJA was bad" rhetoric with a spice of foreigner's "Nihonjinron" on top.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • 0

    nigelboy

    Virtually everything in your post is beside the point. Just because prostitution has always been a factor in warfare does not mean that allegations of sexual slavery against Imperial Japan are invalid. Your distracting everyone’s attention with red herrings.

    No. Exploitation of women during warfare is an on going global problem and what you are stating in essence is dismissing them.

    Err, really? I thought we had seen evidence (including in the link that the ianfu defenders have posted several times here) that sex slavery was inherent in "the operation". Or how do you call it when young, ignorant women are hired to "change bandages" and then find themselves in a brothel, with no means to retreat? I pointed out before that that is the same "operation" that the Russian Mafia is using.

    Actually, such deception is used today by many who are involved in this sex trafficking industry. Do they get a free pass and if so why?

    Again, the deception and coercion were mostly conducted by individuals which unfortunately occurs in comfort women system as well as military brothels used by the Allieds.

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

  • -3

    nigelboy

    This is a very bizarre bit of nonsense

    Not really. Rapes as well as exploitation of young women by the U.S. forces (military brothels operated by locals, unregulated) hardly ever gets a footnote in the U.S. history books. Your position that such establishment and use of these brothels were not "officially" condoned due to "Americans' Judeo-Christian character" speaks volumes about your U.S. waterdown education background for as others have stated, it's merely a facade to keep it's squeaky clean image back home to their mothers, wives, and girlfriends.

    The operation went bad?

    Yes Yabits. This is why ONLY this case is repeated as an "example" and regurgitated ad nauseum by the activists today. As a footnote, once the top of IJA found out this was going on, the officer in charge was court martialed by the IJA proving that such actions were not condoned.

    Conveniently, the Japanese have destroyed a lot of those records.

    When one lacks supporting evidence, always use the above argument which is in line with "my dog ate my homework".

    Posted in: Hashimoto says allied soldiers raped women after D-Day

View all