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nemo, as you know we are all entitled to our points of view here, whether we agree or not. But when there are people here defending TBS' call to Mr Hawker and filming it live for a scoop and others preaching about what a good job the police have done, I cannot help but spit venom my friend.
Moderator: Except that our discussion board is for readers to have a mature exchange views, not let their emotions get carried away and spit venom or make unfounded accusations. We ask all readers to please keep this mind and discuss the case rationally.
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acuteandchronic, it was a disgraceful display of gutter journalism. I cannot for the life of me believe that someone like you can attempt to justify TBS making a direct call to the father of Lindsay Hawker for the benefit of their own selfish air time. Did it not cross TBS' mind that it should be the job of Chiba police or the British Embassy ONCE it was confirmed that it was Ichihashi ?
Yes, the gutter press in the UK are just as bad. But yet again, it does not justify what happened last night does it ?
And more information for sympathisers of TBS like acuteandchronic. The press conference where Mr Hawker came across in a very dignified manner was the hastily arranged interview once it was all confirmed. I am referring to TBS' knee-jerk call and total disregard for the Hawker family for their scoop. I cannot believe that people are excusing TBS.
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northlondon
TBS had the 'balls' to make an uncertified call to Mr Hawker and then had the balls to air Mr hawker's emotions for the benefit of their own programming. Sick.
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northlondon
It was TBS who felt they had the right to call Mr Hawker without any confirmation from the police. They aired the whole call for their own selfish needs. Absolutely disgraceful. Just imagine if it hadn't been Ichihashi.
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Just wondering, who gave the Japanese media outlet the permission to call Mr Hawker to break the news of Ichihashi's 'apparent' arrest at the time ? The Japanese even filmed the moment. Surely that should not have been permitted and should have been conducted by the police office or the British embassy ? Yet more Japanese news media scavenging over an emotional moment.
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northlondon
? Where did I say that ? I said that the police had most information about Ichihashi from the moment he escaped. They were not looking for an unknown suspect.
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My opinion is that I am sick of the posters here saying what a good job the police did. These cops that did such a good job, they hadn't even been checking photographic records from cosmetic surgery clinics around the country (because it was the clinic assistant who forwarded the picture). That is very basic detective work. And for all the posters here trying to convince us what a difficult job the cops had, you seem to have neglected one major fact. That the police knew Ichihashi's full name, parents address and had his photo since day 1 of his escape 2 and a half years ago.
Moderator: Sorry, but you are going around in circles repeating yourself. Please move the discussion along.
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Betting, I have never expected a 100% arrest rate. It does not happen anywhere. But for such a high-profile murder case, the mistakes made are inexcusable. And a tough arrest rate does not mean that we should not push for much more professional investigations. It does not excuse the bad job that was done here and I am getting very angry this evening at all this slapping on the back of the police for a job well done. I for one have not forgotten how many times this investigation had to be shaken up by the Hawker family and by the foreign media and community here. Does nobody else here remember how we had to complain at the lack of poster ID's of Ichihashi in police boxes around Japan ?
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northlondon
Hundreds of vultures out in the rain with their mobile cameras and umbrellas live on TV surrounding the police van with Ichihashi inside. Very sad people.
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zander, I think the small risk of a helicopter accident with Japan's most wanted might have put the kaibosh on that. And it is after dark. Although I agree with your point how the cops are going to milk this for all it's worth and as if they have done a great job. What a joke.
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northlondon
In any other country a new story such as this would not draw hundreds of spectators with their mobile phone cameras and frenzied news coverage treating him like some celebrity. Other nations would be hanging their heads in shame at such a disgrace of a fellow countryman. People here are really sick sometimes.
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northlondon
Watching this live 'media fest' on TV right now, it reminds me of something out of Natural Born Killers. Sick society indeed.
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northlondon
They have his arrival on the shinkansen at Tokyo eki on live right now. As well as the expected media scrum, there are hundreds of vultures waiting with their mobile phone cameras treating this monster like some kind of film star and waving at the news cameras. And it's midnight on a Tuesday night ! A very sad and sick reflection of society here.
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Today is not really a day to be claiming that the people of Japan are in some way superior to non-Japanese. Let me remind you, this very sad story is of a Japanese person who tortured and murdered a 'foreigner'. Or didn't you know that ??
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Your totally incorrect comments are summed up with your closing sentence. The police didn't catch him. They were led to the exact place where he was sitting.
Yeah right. Such 'concerned' and 'fantastic' people of Japan that they employed Ichihashi, lived with him for over a year and gave him cosmetic surgery...
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samuraisteve, totally right pal. And we should be asking, why have they only just now crawled out from under the rock they have been hiding under for the last 2 years ?? It's a bit sick to me. They should have made themselves available to the media ever since he went on the run. They are just looking for some kind of sympathy now their son has been busted.
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I have been living in Japan for a looong time. Therefore 'my' cops who are responsible for my security and protection are the Japanese cops. I have the right to comment on how useless they are.
But it wouldn't be the first time they couldn't convict a murderer though would it ?
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LFRAgain, yet another Chiba police force excuser. And let me repeat it to those posters here who do have a brain LFR, this is not wonderful news. It's a damn sad story for a family all the way back in England who lost their daughter to this monster. It's a relief for her family who want this thug to face justice, but's that is all it is. And don't place my opinion in front of her poor family when you are dancing around with words like wonderful.
Yet another defender of this whole drawn-out police case shooting himself in the foot with ridiculous statements. How can you 'hide' for over a year in one of the most heavily populated cities in the world !
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Although their apology seems a little 2 and a half years late to me....
However, their child is still alive.
Let me see now. 300,000 yen a month pocket money and a free apartment at the age of 28 with no job or studies. Yeah, I wonder how...
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Himajin, after key information published this morning that Ichihashi had been living and working in Osaka, even my 3 year old would have had the sense to post 1 junior cop down at Osaka ferry port. But maybe that's the level of intelligence you are trying to defend ?
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