Thursday February 16, 2012

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    pathat

    "I would imagine Pathat’s quote is probably correct, but I can’t be 100% sure of this so I never use that site except to give me a general direction to go in for more reliable information."

    Which is why I did not use Wikipedia in my first post with quotes addressing this issue at Ossan, imagawa, and why I also said "the numbers jump around, regardless of what sources one uses for a variety of reasons."

    There is a wealth of information on this subject out there-not only on the Internet, but in easily-accessible histories of the World War II era.

    To reiterate my main point: There is a much larger issue about war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine than most people know about, and, I think if they were better informed, it would not be so easy for the sweep-it-under-the-rug faction members like Ossan to get away with their agenda. Keep dumbing it down...it is only 14 bad guys!

    Posted in: Japan ministers, but not premier, visit war shrine

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    pathat

    "But you fail to realize that the point IS the 14 Class A War Criminals"

    I understand the main issue very well, but there is more to this than what you want to admit. You can pretend that no one other than me cares about the points I am making here, but that is not true.

    "Are you intereted in resolving this issue? Or expanding it to the point that resolution becomes even more difficult?"

    So sweeping the facts under the rug would be better, huh? It would be better simply to resolve the issues at hand then to squarely face the deeper complexities of the thousands of other war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine besides the Class A group?

    I think it is sad that the great majority of people-Japanese and non-Japanese alike-have been fed a dumbed-down version of the war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine.

    Posted in: Japan ministers, but not premier, visit war shrine

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    pathat

    "Anyone who has looked into the Tokyo War Crimes trials knows that it really was a Victor's Trial."

    Are you under the impression that everything related to the many thousands of indicted Japanese war criminals was decided in Tokyo and manipulated by the Americans, Ossan? You do know that there were a lot of convicted Japanese executed elsewhere, right? I would hope so.

    Simple info that you might get something from:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_tribunal

    "According to Japanese tabulation, 5,700 Japanese individuals were indicted for Class B and Class C war crimes. Of this number, 984 were initially condemned to death; 475 received life sentences; 2,944 were given more limited prison terms; 1,018 were acquitted and 279 were never brought to trial or not sentenced. The number of death sentences by country is the following : Holland 236, Great Britain 223, Australia 153, China 149, USA 140 France 26 and Philippines 17. [6] Additionally, the Soviet Union and Chinese Communist forces held trials for Japanese war criminals."

    "5,700 Japanese nationals were charged with Class B and C crimes, mostly over prisoner abuse. The crimes perpetrated by Japanese troops and authorities in the occupation of Korea and China, particularly Manchuria (Manchukuo), were not part of the proceeding. China held 13 tribunals of its own, resulting in 504 convictions and 149 executions."

    The numbers jump around, regardless of what sources one uses for a variety of reasons, but the point I am trying to make is that it is not simply the controversy surrounding the enshrinement of the Class A war criminals in Yasukuni Shrine that should be objectionable, but also that there are so many others convicted of atrocities who are enshrined there, too.

    Posted in: Japan ministers, but not premier, visit war shrine

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    pathat

    Ossan wrote:

    "If they would remove the 14 or so Class-A War Criminals from the shrine, I really wouldn't have a problem with it."

    Have a lot of you people ever taken the time to think that this controversy should not just be about 14 or so bad guys enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine?

    http://www.japanfocus.org/products/details/1967

    "In addition to the 28 Class-A criminals, 5,700 people were convicted as Class-B and -C war criminals at courts inside and outside Japan for abusing prisoners of war and murdering civilians. Of the accused, 920 were sentenced to death and executed."

    "In 1959, Yasukuni Shrine began to enshrine Class-B and -C criminals, together with the war dead, as martyrs on the basis of a list of names compiled by the Health and Welfare Ministry, which was sent to the shrine in 1966. An association of representatives of worshippers, which had influential ties with the shrine, decided in 1970 to enshrine Class-A war criminals along with the war dead, but the timing of the enshrinement was left up to the chief priest. Matsudaira Nagayoshi, who was inaugurated as chief priest in 1978, confirmed the enshrinement at a meeting of the association and enshrined 14 Class-A war criminals who had been hanged or died in prison."

    Nearly 1000 other war criminals were executed for their crimes.

    The official number of convicted war criminals enshrined at Yasukuni is 1,068 from my reading.

    There is some dispute about the numbers of executed Japanese war criminals because of actions taken by other countries than the U.S.

    How about executed sickos now in Yasukuni like General Tachibana and Major Matoba who ordered the execution of downed American pilots on Chichijima and ate some of their body parts?

    You guys do not mind if they are honored at Yasukuni, too?

    It is just the gang associated with the 14 Class-A war criminals that we should be worried about, huh?

    Why not try reading and thinking outside of the usual stories in the mass media about Yasukuni Shrine?

    Posted in: Japan ministers, but not premier, visit war shrine

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    pathat

    It is August 15: the 63rd anniversary of Japan`s formal surrender for its decade and a half of a war of agression and brutality for an expanded Japanese Empire in Asia.

    A great day for the the world and the years following this momentous day in 1945.

    So many people comment about the right and wrong aspects in their minds of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but we have so few who pay attention to the end result of those two horrific, but sadly necessary days.

    This day also commemorates the suffering of the millions who were killed by the Imperial Japanese military in the Emperor`s name throughout many Asian countries. Those victims of the Japanese military shall not be forgotten.

    So many brutalized through killings like indiscriminate bombings of Chinese cities, chemical and biological experiments, mass rapes etc., all for the fanatical hopes of the militarists and the millions of other Japanese brain-washed by years of ridiculous education and top-down social control.

    Strange that this site had tons of stories about Hiroshima and Nagasaki a week ago, but there is only this story about Yasukuni nearing 17:00 on August 15 that I can see that even remotely relates to this hugely important day in world history.

    Remember the so-called victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and listen to so many spout off about the need for nuclear disarmament and desiring some utopian "peace of the world," yet so little attention to August 15, 1945....

    Strange. Very strange, indeed.

    Posted in: Each Aug 15, Yasukuni area turns into riot zone

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    pathat

    A bunch of Cuba`s best are in the majors, or have defected and are waiting their chance, and cannot play in the Olympics. The Dominican Republic is one of the top baseball countries in the world, perhaps has even more talented players than Japan, and they do not even send a team to the Olympics. Stop making excuses! Japan has sent a lot of its best from NPB. If they do not win, too bad, so sad.

    Posted in: Cuba beats Japan 4-2 in Olympic baseball opener

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    pathat

    "her relationships with her two boyfriends"

    The word "boyfriend" does not always mean someone a woman is in a physical relationship with in Japan. Maybe she was with one or both of the men mentioned here, maybe she was not.

    "He met her on the day she committed suicide."

    joicerojo: If you read the article again, you will find that they had worked together on the Hiroshima documentary. The meaning here is that they saw each other on her last day.

    "These two men might have been the best thing in her life. Or they may have been the worst. Making assumptions without proof however, is clearly foolish."

    shinobusezso: JT is a forum for expressing opinions. Lacking verifiable proof of the nature of her relationships with the men in question, we have to speculate.

    To my mind, this article is a thinly-veiled attack on foreigners, and, more specifically, the American, Mr. Taylor, and his Hiroshima documentary. There is an underlying assumption that something related to their relationship and the work they did could have possibly added to the stress that she felt leading up to her untimely passing.

    "Apparently, she had talked of suicide before and he knew everything about that. I wonder why he wouldn’t have told us. I just can’t understand it."

    We are all very sorry about the loss of your daughter, Mrs. Kawada, but perhaps the biggest problem here is that you feel terrible guilt because your daughter did not confide in you about her problems. As a matter of fact, she went to a foreigner, which is shameful for you. Are you are worried about the reaction of the Japanese around you and your family?

    I hope to see the Hiroshima film someday.

    Posted in: Kawada's last relationships before suicide draw mother's criticism

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    pathat

    Megumi Okina has lost a lot of weight from a few years ago. I guess it goes with the territory. I did some work with the actress/singer, Misako Uno, a few years back when she was preparing her lines for the Juon 2 movie. She hardly ate anything at the time, and got thinner and thinner. At least in the first Juon movie, Yoko Maki understood what her two biggest assets were and kept them in tip-top shape.

    Megumi Okina: Please eat something!

    Posted in: Actress Megumi Okina appears at Japan premiere of horror film 'Shutter'

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    pathat

    Japan DOES still have Reiko Tosa and Yurika Nakamura entered in the marathon.

    You all know Reiko Tosa, right? The very talented marathoner who won a silver medal at the World Championships in 2001, and a bronze in 2007.

    But of course the Japanese media does not go out of its way to hype her. She just does not fit the "kawaii" or "akarui" label Crucifier mentions above that can be more closely ascribed to Mizuki Noguchi or Naoko Takahashi. Do they have some kind of runner`s "iyashikei" that only the Japanese can pick up on?

    I can clearly remember races when the Japanese media always tried to build up other Japanese runners-like Yoko Shibui a.k.a. "The New Century New Heroine"-and not the underappreciated Tosa.

    Maybe Beijing 2008 is the chance for Reiko Tosa to finally shine so brightly that the J-media will not be able to dismiss her.

    Posted in: Olympic marathon champ Noguchi pulls out injured

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    pathat

    It must be disconcerting for the Japanese-to say the least-that Japan has only 7 medals so far. After swimming and judo are finished, it will be mighty slim pickins for the Japanese, roomtemperature. Baseball, softball, a few wrestling medals, Koji Murofushi in the hammer throw....

    North Korea has 7, and South Korea is rakinem in with 12 total medals.

    Congratulations to the Koreans so far. Great work!

    Actually, roomtemperature, I commend the Chinese and their many wonderful performances thus far. They sure did clean up the mats with the U.S. women today in gymnastics.

    Posted in: Phelps, Chinese gymnasts dominate Olympics

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    pathat

    Not that it is going to last, but North Korea currently has won more medals than Japan: a 6 to 5 advantage.

    Congratulations to the U.S. team for overcoming the loss of two top gymnasts to injury, and still getting the bronze medal!

    Posted in: Phelps, Chinese gymnasts dominate Olympics

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    pathat

    "Aso is personally popular—probably more for his folksy blunt outspokenness and unabashed love of manga and anime than for his arch-conservative views—but whether he is the man to reinvigorate a ruling party that considerable swaths of the voting public have grown tired of is open to question."

    So how will Aso and his "arch-conservative views" "reinvigorate" the LDP?

    Is the Japanese public supposed to believe that a man with his family background, and track record in and out of politics, is going to lead the nation to the Promised Land after Fukuda steps aside?

    I thought they already had enough of this with Shinzo Abe and his vision of "Back To The Future" for a Beautiful Japan.

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    pathat

    The U.S. is raking in the medals-19 at last count. China doing a great job, especially with the golds.

    Japan is stuck on 4 medals.

    Posted in: 3 world records fall; Phelps wins 2nd Olympic gold

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    pathat

    Euphoria spreads throughout the Pentagon, the rest of the U.S. military establishment, defense contractors etc., as the realization dawns that they will not have to pretend to find post-Cold War enemies anymore, hey, Russia is back! We are in the money!

    "There cannot be one standard for the US and a different standard for everyone else. The US and its citizens cannot reserve the right to say who is and who is not a security threat to whom nor can it legitimately play a double game and sometimes seek and sometimes reject the authority of the Security Council."

    Nice post, SEZ. Not to worry about the "fulminating" of SuperLib, you did an excellent job of fumigating afterwards. The air is clear now. Some of us understand the truth, some here at JT never get it. Such is life.

    Posted in: Russia expands Georgia blitz, deploys ships

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    pathat

    The U.S. learned its lesson-finally-from some poor performances in the past couple World Championships/Olympics and will be ready to do what is necessary as a team to win Olympic gold this time. There are many great players in other countries around the world, and a bunch of them play in the NBA, but when the U.S. brings its "A" team playing its "A" game, it is still the best overall.

    Posted in: U.S. beats China 101-70 in men's basketball opener

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    pathat

    From Yahoo! sportswriter Chris Chase, "Did the French Choke?"

    "To his credit, Bernard was gracious in defeat, clapping when the Americans received their gold medals and shaking the hand of Michael Phelps after the ceremony. Or maybe that was just his way of surrendering. The French are pretty good at that one too."

    `Nuff said.

    Posted in: Kitajima wins gold with world record in 100 breaststroke; U.S. takes relay gold

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    pathat

    I guess the expansion plans of NATO have gone a bit awry.

    Posted in: Russia expands Georgia blitz, deploys ships

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    pathat

    It is nice to see the people running Tokyo Tower doing their bit to cut electric power consumption.

    Posted in: Tokyo Bay fireworks

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    pathat

    The U.S. just won the 400m freestyle relay over France by .08 seconds in World Record time. Jason Lezaks final split of 46.06 was the difference over Alain Bernards 46.73 final leg for France. I guess Bernard should not have run his mouth prior to the race. If you are Kosuke Kitajima and back up your talking with one Olympic victory after the other, then it is O.K., but Bernard flopped. He had better do something to make up for it before the Olympics are over, or France will look worse than it does already.

    Posted in: Kitajima wins gold with world record in 100 breaststroke; U.S. takes relay gold

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    pathat

    "The two men I love - Kitajima and Murofushi, one of them is Olympic champion already!"

    Kitajima is set for life in Japan after his well-deserved victory, Princess.

    Posted in: Kitajima gears up for Hansen; Phelps, Rice grab gold in pool

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