Thursday February 16, 2012

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    redacted

    Yeah. This guy is the One, he will heal the divisions in our country, He will fix our broken souls, as his wife claims:

    "... And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    In other words they're just, you know, "typical white people."

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    This is it. I am boycotting all Canadian car makers, Canadian - built planes, Canadian computer companies, Canadian fast food and Canadian coffee shops here in Japan.

    Posted in: Final phase of Canada's seal hunt begins

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    "...if you're so desperate to win this war you'll even give a nod and a wink to torture carried out in your name, when has your true and passionate support for this war in Iraq progressed further than posting on the internet?"

    Quite a leap there, cleo. From waterboarding to Iraq. The article is about the use of waterboarding approved for interrogation against Al Qaeda members in 2002 and 2003, as far as I can tell. And of course since I was never able to actually vote on the decision my support for it is yes, limited to what I post online. I still have no problem with waterboarding Khalid Mohammed. And as I pointed out he is reported to have provided info that saved lives.

    "As for your last post, I think it can be translated as 'Why should I put on a uniform and go somewhere dangerous when there are plenty of other fools willing to 'serve' me by going instead.'"

    You may think what you'd like. I'd be insulting members of my own family and their relatives and ancestors in saying such things, people who fought and died to quite literally save the country you left for Japan.

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    You know, betzee and taka313, the trouble with the Chickenhawk Argument you so lamely attempt to make is that it's based on the basically Lefty notion that the military is the US, so anyone who supports the War on Terror needs to get in uniform.

    The military serves the people of the US and "the system" - as your average Lefty might call it - which in my opinion runs best when individual choice is given precedence over gov't controls.

    We have a volunteer army full of folks who believe they can do the job better than others. They choose to serve.

    I imagine most of them are aware of that.

    Surely, after they finished playing dodgeball in jr high and went on to high school - and even university - they learned to think for themselves,

    I pity the ones who didn't.

    I imagine they must make things rough on those they serve with.

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    taka313 - Nowhere have I scrutinized another poster here. I'm really not that eager to know most of them. I have simply asked why, if they believe what they do about the US, do they continue to live in and support America's closest ally.

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    "The USSA has become everything it despises; an undemocratic, theocratic dictatorship. How DARE they lecture the world on human rights."

    I read comments like that and wish this site had html functions that would highlight in purple prose as silly as that.

    Again, if I felt and really believed that I would never set foot in Japan, since it is America's closest ally in Asia and an integral partner in the crimes of multinational economic exploitation and development it, you know, goes out and invades harmless nations in. Right?

    In particular, if I were an English teacher here I would pause to ponder what percentage of Japan's economy and therefore my income is made from J-citizens toiling for companies in an economy that's quite clearly heavily dependent on American consumers.

    I mean, if you come here with such pointed accusations and feel so strongly about them why are posters like simon, grouchygaijin, sezwho etc still in this country?

    If you truly and passionately believe that the waterboarding of 3 terrorists by US forces proves the country has somehow lost its way (I doubt any of you believed in the first place that the US ever was acting in accord with ideals you claim it has recently forsaken...) why is it your actions never progress beyond repetitive and not very creative attacks upon American foreign policy?

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    "No, I just happen to have caught on (as many others have as well) that Muslims are being framed for terrorist acts committed by others."

    Yeah.

    I've been struck by how often "Palestinian" and Al Qaeda in Europe operatives mention in their videotaped sendoffs to paradise that it is glorious to kill Infidels and by the way this was all a setup.

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    Well done. If China is truly opposed to having the Olympics "politicized" surely this move is a step in the right direction.

    Posted in: Japan won't let Chinese security guards accompany Olympic torch relay in Nagano

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    from sushisake:

    "redacted - you seem happy that America's strategy to beat scum is to become scum. If I was [were] you, I would denouce being an American an migrate [emigrate]. However, you seem quite happy to green light torture. That's your perogative [prerogative], but when another terrorist attack hits your country, don't be surprised."

    For starters, sushisake, I'm in Japan. Have been for a while. I like it, unlike you. I have no real problems with Japan's foreign policy or choice of allies. I think a lot about Japan - and of course my own country.

    You, on the other hand, seem to think almost exclusively about my country.

    But you don't really know much about it , do you?

    The article and many in the media try to make it sound like "torture" has never been resorted to by US armed forces but a cursory check of even the most recent wars the US fought in dispels such desperate propaganda.

    US forces waterboarded VietCong soldiers in the 60's and 70's.There are pics available online.

    I have personally met here in Japan ex-Aussie special forces guys who boasted of the rep their predecessors had during that war, earned because of their particular ruthlessness in dealing with the same sort of enemy:they tossed them, sans parachutes, from interrogation "rooms" which just happened to be located in aircraft flying over the forests and oceans of that tragic country. Would such tactics qualify as "rendition" and "torture"?

    For the record - I probably would have objected to such measures at the time.

    But the waterboarding of subhuman scum like Khalid Mohammed, whose "torture" resulted in info that apparently saved American lives.

    I have no problems with that.

    "If you were captured by the Taliban or some other terrorist group, strapped to a board and waterboarded to within an inch of your life, would you complain?"

    Is that an attempt at humor? The Taliban would waterboard an innocent, unarmed citizen like myself? To what end? To see if I voted for Bush in 2000? (I didn't.)

    Where have you been since 9-11. They didn't waterboard the journalist Daniel Pearl.

    They beheaded him and put the snuff film on the internet.

    They didn't waterboard backpackers like Nick Berg.

    They beheaded them and put the snuff film on the internet.

    They didn't waterboard that poor Korean guy working in Iraq as a translator.

    They beheaded him and put the snuff film on the internet.

    It's time to make up your mind, sushisake.

    Is militant Islam a threat or not?

    You seem, when you also call the terrorists scum, to admit that militant Islam's foot soldiers are morally across from us on the divide that we in the West call Good and Evil.

    That's a good start.

    Bizarrely though, you also admit Al Qaeda and the Taliban are real by accusing Pres. Bush of helping them gain new members in numbers that we can't even count.

    (Here I have to point out that you're being a tad bit ethnocentric - dare I say "racist" ? - by implying that AlQaeda and Taliban recruits have no free will of their and can only react to what "the White Man" says. I never thought I'd be saying this but you really should try to be a little more, you know, multicultural in your outlook. Arabs, Pakistanis, Yemenis, wayward young Brits - whoever might choose to join these militant groups they are human when they do so. Mmmmkay? I don't know what country it is you're from but I think
    the fretful, politically correct elites in the media and academia you undoubtedly get your pic of America from would be shocked to see the retrograde sort of Whitey-still-knows-best attitude you quite unconsciously still display here. )

    To continue -

    The next day you imply, by calling the likes of AQ and the Taliban "terroristas," that militant Islam is little more than the figment of imaginations exposed to too much Fox News and "cheerleading."

    It's embarrassing and tiresome watching you try to work out your weird obsession with Bush, Republicans, and America.

    Try and lift the level of your posts.

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    If I were a foreigner living in a country that is one of America's closest allies and is actively involved in supporting the war in Iraq and I was opposed to the things (like waterboarding) that this article insinuates America does I would pack my bags and leave.

    At once.

    I can't imagine how intense and all-consuming the frustration must be, though sushi sake's posts do provide a glimpse...

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    Oops. My inner neo-con has just, um, misspoken.:

    "I would like to see a demonstration of the techniques they approved, with Cheney giving an personal account of what it feels like to be waterboarded."

    Posted in: Cheney, other top officials OK'd harsh interrogation techniques

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    Who is more corrupt - China or Europe?

    Posted in: IOC president Jacques Rogge says Olympics in crisis over torch relay chaos

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    "Credibility and Madness," indeed.

    The incident you quote never happened. The BBC recanted their lies:

    "Bush God comments 'not literal'"

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4320586.stm

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad accuses U.S. of using 9/11 as pretext for invasions

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    "Taxpayers in Japan are funding the Iraq war, as are taxpayers in China. I thought you knew this by now - I have only posted precisely this point more than 10 times before - was that not enough?"

    That would be you, sushi sake.

    You support the US war effort.

    Posted in: McCain refuses to rule out pre-emptive attacks

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    Europe is so pathetic.

    Posted in: French fashion industry signs anti-anorexia charter

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    The Rapture!

    Hey. Haven't hear that one in a while. As imminent as it was in 2000! Why, it's like the Police State that Bush has been trying to implement next week since taking office.

    Right?

    Yeah?

    Posted in: McCain refuses to rule out pre-emptive attacks

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    ' "Military Men Are Just Dumb, Stupid, Animals To Be Used As Pawns In Foreign Policy" — Henry Kissinger I wonder what Sen. McCain would say about this?'

    I bet he'd say that Kissinger - like you? - must have gotten his clock cleaned after pissin off the wrong grunt.

    Posted in: McCain refuses to rule out pre-emptive attacks

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    Bush.

    Hands down.

    Love him or hate him (he doesn't even crack my top ten list of greatest US presidents - but I like what he evokes in so many here...) he is a two-term president of the most powerful nation in history.

    And since WW2 the only Democrat to get elected twice did so during the little Holiday From History that we all took in that period between the time Reagan brought down the Berlin Wall and jihad hit America on 9-11.

    Posted in: Which current world leader do you respect the most?

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    "McCain refuses to rule out pre-emptive attacks"

    War-monger.

    He sounds just like JFK.

    Posted in: McCain refuses to rule out pre-emptive attacks

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    Odd how little calculation has been done on the number of lives saved in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Where are those Lancet surveys ?

    The UN has estimated that a minimum of 40 000 lives have been saved annually in Afghanistan since the US-led ouster of the Taliban.

    By my reckoning - which is no leass facile than any other here - that sort of, you know, 'cancels out' the numbers dead from Muslim on Muslim slaughter in Iraq. Right? I mean, as fast and loose as the Lancet figures are played with by the supposedly anti-war crowd it's pretty clear that the dead in Iraq are little more than numbers for most "pacifists" out there.

    The numbers are tossed out in the same spirit people stick "grim" in front of the word milestone to refer to Marines killed in Iraq when they are otherwise quite casually referred to as thugs, criminals and "the bottom of the barrel" when in an article about enlistment numbers back home or news-making crime in Okinawa.

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