Thursday February 16, 2012

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    sabiwabi

    WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange on Monday played down expectations that a leak was imminent. In a Twitter post, Assange said information were coming from “a single tabloid blog” that had put out a “tremendous amount” of false information about his site. Still, the military says its 120-person task force has been on high alert.

    Maybe they're looking for excuses to go after Wikileaks, or for placing controls on the internet, for national security reasons, of course ; ).

    Posted in: Pentagon asks media not to publish war leaks

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    sabiwabi

    Much of the Palestinian resistance is non-violent, but we only hear about the violent ones. The Palestinians have many times shown strong interest in real peace with the Israelis, and each time the Israelis got scared and vicious; the last thing they want is peace, what they want is more land (look up Greater Israel).

    Peace Offensive #1: In the mid-1970s the PLO began supporting a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. The PLO, headquartered in Lebanon, was strictly adhering to a 1981 truce with Israel. In August 1981 Saudi Arabia unveiled, and the Arab League approved, a peace plan based on the two-state settlement. Arafat was contemplating a historic compromise.

    Israeli response: Fearing diplomatic pressures, Israel maneuvered to sabotage the two-state settlement and stepping up preparations to destroy the PLO. Israel conducted punitive military raids deliberately out of proportion against Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in order to weaken PLO moderates, strengthen the hand of Arafat's radical rivals, and guarantee the PLO's inflexibility.

    To fend off Arafat's "peace offensive" Israel embarked on military action in June 1982. The Israeli invasion had been preceded by more than a year of effective ceasefire with the PLO, but after murderous Israeli provocations, the last of which left as many as 200 civilians dead (including 60 occupants of a Palestinian children's hospital), the PLO finally retaliated, causing a single Israeli casualty. Israel used the PLO's resumption of attacks as the pretext for its invasion.

    Now does this sound familiar or what!!!!!! The exact same MO with Hamas a few years ago. Hamas strictly adhering to a ceasefire and making a peace offensive and the Israelis react in the exact same way!

    Israel would immediately get peace if it moved back to its pre-1967 borders and started respecting international law and basic human decency.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    "more than 165 rockets and mortars have been fired at Israel from Gaza so far this year"

    What's up with that?

    Normal human beings in an overcrowded prison without all the basic necessities tend to get rather upset after a while. What's up with you not knowing this?

    Anyway, how many rockets and mortars were fire AT Gaza so far this year, by the Israelis?

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    Yes, yes, how much better off they would be letting Iran - set to amputate this week the hand of a man who stole some chocolate -

    Assuming that is true, that will not be a problem for the Gazans since the Israelis don't even allow chocolate to enter Gaza (unless that changed with the recent "easing").

    Anyway, look at the response Ahmadinejad got a few days ago in Lebanon. He is very much liked in the Middle East, people there probably know more about Iran than westerners who are constantly spoon fed the same BS. Abbas is not liked all that much by the Palestinians themselves.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    Abbas needs Israel more than Israel needs Abbas.

    Yes, very true. Abbas is a traitor to the Palestinians. The Palestinians need Abbas as much as they need a hole in the head.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    Actually, they have on a number of occasions sacrificed Jewish lives to further their cause.

    so what were these occasions?

    There are some documented cases of attacks against Jews in various countries that were later found out to be carried out by zionists to convince Jews to move to Israel. Look it up.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    You oppose the U.N.?

    Interesting how they point to the UN to support their creation, but when the UN clearly tells them it is inadmissible to take land by war and to return to the pre-1967 border, they completely ignore the UN. Funny that!

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    Mittsu,

    shows the relative value Israel puts on lives....

    Yeah, they value the lives of Israeli Jews, but they have a complete disregard for all non-Jewish lives. Actually, they have on a number of occasions sacrificed Jewish lives to further their cause.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    To their own country? ...Huh?

    Yep, their own country. Those who moved from the US can return to the US, those from Russia can...

    It certainly does not make any sense to demolish homes of Palestinians, who have been living there for many hundreds of years, to build a home for a Jew from the US, Poland, Russia, … just because they happen to belong to a particular sect. And all this at the expense of US tax payers.

    The only thing that would truly work is a one-state solution, including the right of return, with equal rights for everyone.

    Posted in: With statehood, Palestine ready to end all claims

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    sabiwabi

    ... I can tell you that the last thing any Western government wants to do is reward terrorists for violence.

    Yeah, that is why all we really need is a truly free press. If the American people were well informed, they would not tolerate any financial or military aid going to Israel.

    I've probably asked you this a hundred times: What has the result of an armed struggle gotten the Palestinians over the last half century? Gutters, gutters, and more gutters. So why do people still engage in that behavior when it's obviously counterproductive? Because they don't want peace, they want to win.

    I've answered that a hundred times. Much of the Palestinian resistance is non-violent, but we only hear about the violent ones. The Palestinians have many times shown strong interest in real peace with the Israelis, and each time the Israelis got scared and vicious; the last thing they want is peace, what they want is more land (look up Greater Israel)

    Peace Offensive #1: In the mid-1970s the PLO began supporting a two-state settlement on the June 1967 border. The PLO, headquartered in Lebanon, was strictly adhering to a 1981 truce with Israel. In August 1981 Saudi Arabia unveiled, and the Arab League approved, a peace plan based on the two-state settlement. Arafat was contemplating a historic compromise.

    Israeli response: Fearing diplomatic pressures, Israel maneuvered to sabotage the two-state settlement and stepping up preparations to destroy the PLO. Israel conducted punitive military raids deliberately out of proportion against Palestinian and Lebanese civilians in order to weaken PLO moderates, strengthen the hand of Arafat's radical rivals, and guarantee the PLO's inflexibility.

    To fend off Arafat's "peace offensive" Israel embarked on military action in June 1982. The Israeli invasion had been preceded by more than a year of effective ceasefire with the PLO, but after murderous Israeli provocations, the last of which left as many as 200 civilians dead (including 60 occupants of a Palestinian children's hospital), the PLO finally retaliated, causing a single Israeli casualty. Israel used the PLO's resumption of attacks as the pretext for its invasion.

    Now does this sound familiar or what!!!!!! The exact same MO with Hamas a few years ago. Hamas making a peace offensive and the Israelis react in the exact same way!

    You scoff at non-violent resistance not because it won't work, it's because it doesn't involve wiping out Israel. And if Israel isn't wiped off the map then, in your eyes, you've lost the war.

    Look up "Palestinian loss of land" and you will see that it is the Israelis who are wiping Palestine off the map. Starting with the completely unfair, and illegal, partition plan that gave the Palestinians the short end of the stick. The Israelis got even greedier and stole more land in the 1967 war, and they continue to expand demolishing Palestinian homes to build their for-Jews-only "settlements"; despite UNSC resolutions, international court of justice, and the entire world telling it to return to the pre-1967 borders. And you actually expect to be taken seriously when you write that it is the Palestinians who do not want peace.

    Israel would immediately get peace if it moved back to its pre-1967 borders and started respecting international law and basic human decency.

    Posted in: Palestinians weighing alternatives to peace talks

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    sabiwabi

    Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is simply not correct. The Goldstone report proves only the bias of its creators.

    You really don't know much about what you're writing about, do you? Judge Goldstone is a Jew and a zionist, he has always been a strong supporter of Israel. Despite all this, his report for the UN was very damning for Israel.

    Posted in: Palestinians weighing alternatives to peace talks

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    sabiwabi

    Superlib,

    Despite the war crimes routinely carried out by Hamas, the Palestinians still get hundreds of millions of dollars in aid ...

    Sorry to burst you bubble, but war crimes are by far, very far, committed more frequently and to a greater extent by the Israeli side. The UN's Goldstone report will easily prove that. And as for aid, aid given to Israel is by far, very far, greater than what is given to the Palestinians. Basically, everything you've written is nonsense.

    Posted in: Palestinians weighing alternatives to peace talks

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    sabiwabi

    Neogreen,

    You bring up some excellent points. What we should ask ourselves is how could the Israelis get away with this kind of behavior. How could they have such a hold on western leaders and the MSM.

    What the Palestinians must do is focus on an information offensive to counter the huge Israeli DISinformation offensive. I believe most Americans and Europeans are decent people, and if they were well informed would not tolerate Israel's actions. If they understood that all the land beyond the 1967 borders is illegally occupied by the Israelis, they would not tolerate the so-called "settlements" or "natural expansion".

    The Palestinians should arm themselves with video cameras and find a way to smuggle the videos out of Palestine, which is not an easy task.

    Posted in: Palestinians weighing alternatives to peace talks

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    sabiwabi

    If the war was indeed Israel vs. Lebanon then all of Lebanon would have been attacked but it wasn't.

    You're joking, right? Don't tell me you believe the nonsensical Israeli talking points about precision bombing.

    Israel destroyed the entire Lebanese infrastructure, they murdered over 1000 innocent Lebanese civilians. And you see no reason why the Lebanese military should get involved. Even now, Israel violates Lebanese airspace on an almost daily basis; why don't they try to shoot them down.

    My guess is that top people in the Lebanese government told them to do nothing; hoping that the carnage would make the Lebanese people hate Hezbollah. These traitors might be the same ones who allowed the deadly Israeli invasion a few decades ago, which lead to the creation of Hezbollah.

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    As I said, I doubt the families of these soldiers would share your views on their sacrifice. Maybe that is just me.

    Yeah, it is just you.

    Nothing you have written indicates that the Lebanese army fought against the murderous invading IDF. Those who died were probably simply at their base where they always are, everyday, regardless of whether there is peace or a major deadly invasion. It is a terrible shame they died, but I have not seen anything to indicate that they died fighting the murderous invaders.

    Hezbollah, on the other hand, did courageously fight back to defend the Lebanese people. Many of them died fighting, as they gave the Israelis a well deserved beating.

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    He's one of the world's leaders of hate speech and sponsors of terrorism. Stop trying to play him off as a harmless cartoon figure just because Israel is your enemy.

    The MSM portrays him as a crazy cartoon character, but that is just because they do not like what he says.

    He speaks about peace, not hate; he speaks the truth. He criticizes groups that are constantly killing innocent civilians, how could that be hate speech?

    Despite what puppet leaders and controlled media say, he does not sponsor terrorism. He sponsors groups who defend civilians from terrorism; very big difference!

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    There were quite a number of casualties amongst the Lebanese Army in that conflict.

    Yeah, 28 died. And we also know that the Israeli regime also bombed Lebanese army bases. I bet that is where the fatalities were. As far as I know, unlike Hezbollah, the Lebanese army did nothing (or very little) to defend their country against the Israeli attack.

    I am glad that Iran is supporting them. Hezbollah deserves all all support.

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    He came to support his proxy Hezbollah terrorists and incite them with anti-Israel rants.

    No, he came to show support to the Lebanese people. The Lebanese military did absolutely nothing to defend its people when Israel attacked and murdered over 1000 civilians. It has always been Hezbollah, and only Hezbollah, who defended Lebanon from real terrorism.

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    It was israel NOT Iran that attacked lebanon in 1982 and 2006...killing thousands of people, and aided by lebanese christians. Dont blame Iran or president ahmadinejad

    Yes, and both times it was Hezbollah that defended the Lebanese people, and they are labeled terrorists!!!

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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    sabiwabi

    So Ahmadinejad comes to Lebanon to provoke Israel.

    The controlled media does indeed try very hard to give us the impression that is the reason for the visit, just to piss Israel off. Instead, I think he came to show support to Lebanon. What is wrong with that?

    Posted in: Ahmadinejad taunts Israel from border with Lebanon

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