JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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Why do Japanese change their attitude when they communicate with foreigners?
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Confrontation
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U.S. Navy investigating how parts fell off aircraft near Atsugi
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California court to decide if SeaWorld whales are illegal 'slaves'
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Kuroki reported pregnant 2 weeks after denying relationship with Akanishi
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sabiwabi
No, that is not permitted here...
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sabiwabi
Well, one immediate benefit from all this unrest is that Egypt's border with Gaza is opening up, allowing desperately needed materials, foods, medicines to reached the poor people of Gaza. Hopefully the Gazans, who are now finally free, will soon be able to live decent lives.
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sabiwabi
Who knows what you read, but I have read enough to know that many are in fact intelligent, informed, and rational; as well as being very kind.
There are in fact crazy, racist nuts everywhere who believe many different things; such as those who believe that to the Muslims, there is no greater crime than being Christian.
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sabiwabi
When the Egyptian protesters attacked the state’s internal security headquarters, they rescued lots of documents that were about to be destroyed. They document many of the Mubarak-era crimes, and they confirm government involvement in the New Years Eve attack on the Coptic Church in Alexandria. Hmmm, why would they want to do that, could it be to give the military an excuse to crack down on the population?
Hopefully these revelations will help the people focus on the real culprits and ease tensions between the different groups.
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sabiwabi
atamant, if there is anyone who needs to "learn to read", its you. The comment was "Yep, to the Muslims, there is no greater crime, then being Christian." Molenir was referring to "the Muslims", and it was a typical anti-Muslim comment which I am amazed is still permitted on this forum.
When I criticize someone who happens to be Jewish, you and your other IDs throw your usual accusations of my being anti-Jewish (you call it anti-semitism). So while "anti-semitism" seems to be the worst possible crime, anti-Muslimism is just fine on this forum, and you defend it.
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sabiwabi
What is sad is that there are still posts attempting to claim that some people say the Holocaust did not happen. Nobody says "the holocaust did not happen", including Ahmadinejad. You really should try to find out what revisionists claim before calling them crazy, nuts, racist...
Nessie, I agree, best post of the thread!
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sabiwabi
That is about as bad a BS statement as it gets; Christians and Muslims get along fine. You can always find a few morons in any religion who can be convinced to do anything.
I am mainly referring to the lead up to the current tension, including the blowing up of the church a few months ago; interesting to hear what the church leaders had to say about that.
Anyway, the US has essentially controlled Egypt for decades. I am sure they will not just stand by and say "oh gosh darn, nothing we can now, the people are now free". They will do everything they can to sabotage this revolution and retain control.
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sabiwabi
Exactly, some will do whatever it takes to get the different groups fighting. Its a damn shame.
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sabiwabi
Indeed, I too recommend people watch it. I particularly recommend the interview of Abraham Bomba, a barber at Treblinka; quite interesting...
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sabiwabi
Yep, but as far as the holocaust is concerned, Iran does not censor. In contrast, most European countries censor the holocaust very aggressively.
They use the scientific method.
So someone who criticizes Al Quaeda is anti-Muslim??? That was an interesting attempt at logic...
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sabiwabi
Yep, you were correct.
There are certain people who's MO is to carry out false flags to spark sectarian fighting. Unfortunately, some of the more naive members of these groups fall for this well documented protocol. I hope this incident problem can be fixed soon, before it gets out of control and wrecks their best chance at freedom and democracy.
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sabiwabi
AdamB,
You have made some brilliant comments; bravo!
Exactly, couldn't agree more!
Exactly, that is why we should investigate and discuss it.
Hitler and Ahmadinejad are complete opposites. Ahmadinejad does indeed seem to dislike zionists, but I haven't seen anything to indicate he hates Jews. The same can be said about Sabiwabi.
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sabiwabi
Atamant,
Considering the west has already succeeded in overthrowing Iran's democratically elected leader in 1953, and have ever since continued to try to exert their influence in Iran, it is somewhat understandable (but I don't fully support it) that they would want to ban satellite dishes to help curb the west's influence.
Do you have any evidence that the holocaust was behind the banning of satellite dishes? As I wrote (twice already), it makes no sense to make satellite dishes illegal to prevent the people from hearing one side of the holocaust debate, and at the same time have a conference where both sides can be heard.
As I said many times:
both sides were invited
out of 33 papers presented, only 6 were by "holocaust deniers"
a Canadian University professor (not a denier) was widely condemned in the west (not Iran) for attending the conference. If most official holocaust experts chose not to go, tough luck.
So I can't see how showing this Israeli-funded movie will change much in the minds of Iranians. They are probably already familiar with both sides of the debate.
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sabiwabi
Indeed it is. Its quite interesting to look at this guy's career. Lanzmann had an obscure career as a proof-reading journalist with the popular press.
In 1973, he released his first film, a documentary about Israel. In 1977, he was able to convince Israeli Prime Minister Begin to contribute $850,000 in Israel government funds for Shoah, which Begin saw as "a Jewish national interest." Additional funds were made available from non-government Israeli sources, and from the French government.
Thank God he was able to get funding for this marvelous project.
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sabiwabi
When I wrote that "the satellite dishes being illegal has nothing to do with the holocaust" I meant that it is not because of the holocaust that they are illegal, or that it is not for fear of "holocaust education" that they were made illegal.
If he was so hell bent on promoting holocaust denial, why did he have a conference open to both sides of the holocaust debate. Your comments don't make any sense.
As for your point 5, there are specific laws, regarding the holocaust.
As for your point 6, I see you continue to blame the victims of this genocide, that is quite a reprehensible view to have. The Palestinians were kicked off their land (killing many of them) to provide a home for the European Jews, who were persecuted by the Germans. And the "settlements" continue to grow today.
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sabiwabi
atamant,
1-3) Thank you for stating what is clearly described in the article. But the satellite dishes being illegal has nothing to do with the holocaust.
4) Ahmadinejad encourages discussion of the holocaust. Videos by academics giving presentations in Iran of the official version of the holocaust can be seen online. So regarding the holocaust, the subject of this thread, Iran allows free expression.
5) Regarding the holocaust, the subject of this thread, Europe is a society that only permits one view, its view, and yes, it is not a healthy society.
6) Exactly, the Palestinians have nothing to do with the holocaust, but they have paid the heaviest price for compensation. That is the point Ahmadinejad and I, and many others, have been making.
7) Are you referring to the war or the holocaust?
8) Regarding the holocaust, the subject of this thread, Iran encourages debate while Europe prevents any debate of the holocaust with heavy jail sentences.
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sabiwabi
The debate is not simply about numbers.
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sabiwabi
The two main points Ahmadinejad often makes about the holocaust are:
Why can't we freely investigate and discuss the holocaust in Europe?
The holocaust happened in Europe, so why are the Palestinians paying for it?
Those are the two main questions he has often asked, and nobody seems to be able to give him an adequate answer. He believes people should be able to freely investigate and discuss the holocaust, so I don't think he will mind too much the showing of this movie in Iran. It will hopefully stimulate intense debate. A society that only permits one view is not a healthy society.
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sabiwabi
AdamB,
Speakers representing both sides were at the Iran conference to present their views and data. Such a conference or other free discussion of revisionist views and data is illegal in Europe. So if anyone here has an agenda, it is not Iran.
I am sure the Aladdin Project would never take part in free discussion of revisionist views and data.
Moderator: Back on topic please. The subject is the French documentary being shown in Iran.
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sabiwabi
Tehran already had a conference about the holocaust, where both sides were discussed freely. They should have attended that one.
I wonder why they got no response from Iran. Maybe the Aladdin Project only wanted one side to be presented at their "conference".
True, being exposed to different views on a subject allows people to have informed opinions...
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