Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    sabiwabi

    It is possible the death threat claim does not actually work here because the accused did not say 'I am going to kill you.' I don't think it is illegal in France to say 'You should be dead'.

    "I'll kill you" is what he said to the Asian companion. If the allegations are true, he definitely made a death threat.

    BTW, I don't recall ever saying that anti-semitism is the only one protected by law and other forms of racist/anti-religion comments were never prosecuted; so I don't see where I have admitted being wrong or how bringing up the example of Bardot proves me wrong.

    Again, anyone who wants to understand the situation in France should look into Dieudonne's case. As a famous French comedian, he had been joking many different groups without any significant problems. It is only when he made a sketch of an Israeli "settler" that all hell broke loose, with legal and other problems. During one of the many attacks against him on French TV, one guy said something like "well, after all, he's a n....." commenting on his African ancestry; this racist comment did not bring very much condemnation, if any.

    Anyway, before buying Dior products, potential Asian costumers might want to think about Dior's considering anti-semitic comments as graver than anti-Asian ones or as death threats.

    Posted in: Dior suspends Galliano for alleged anti-Semitism

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    sabiwabi

    "From my own experience on this forum, I have a good idea what will get my post deleted and what will get me suspended for 48 hrs. Quoting the comments to the Asian companion would get me at least suspended for 48 hrs"

    Hontoni,really? so it's ok for you to repeat the racist remarks against the Jewish person but not the Asian person?

    No, different words were used in both cases. Find out what the guy said and you will understand.

    Is it all the fact you know about France? What happened to Dieudonne?

    No.

    I know Dieudonne since his career began (2 decades ago?)with his friend who is of Jewish origin.

    Hontoni,really? It seems all you know about Dieudonne is what you read on Wiki. If you were really family with his situation you would understand that although in theory all kinds of racisms may be punished in France, in reality it is not quite the case.

    BTW, do you consider the alleged anti-semitic remark to be worst than the death threat or the anti-Asian remark?

    Anyway, considering that the woman that was "assaulted" claims Galliano repeated the insult 1000 times, I wonder how much of this entire story is true.

    Posted in: Dior suspends Galliano for alleged anti-Semitism

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    sabiwabi

    "It seems he also made racist comments to her Asian companion, which I cannot write here."

    Why not, another distinction?

    From my own experience on this forum, I have a good idea what will get my post deleted and what will get me suspended for 48 hrs. Quoting the comments to the Asian companion would get me at least suspended for 48 hrs.

    To sabiwabi, "No, only one RELIGION gets this special protection."

    Are you sure ? For my part ,I'm sure you don't know nothing about France and laws there.

    You're correct, I don't know nothing about France and her laws, I know quite a lot in fact.

    Learn about what happened to Dieudonne in France and you'll probably agree with my comments.

    Posted in: Dior suspends Galliano for alleged anti-Semitism

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    sabiwabi

    According to the woman that was assaulted he said a thousand times “Dirty Jewish face, you should be dead,” calling her a “whore” and “ugly”.

    It seems he also made racist comments to her Asian companion, which I cannot write here.

    What he said was clearly not nice, but if I were to chose a headline to best reflect what he said, I would have chosen "death threats" or "racist remarks" before choosing "antisemitism". But as expected, it seems AP felt the antisemitism outweighed the other two.

    Posted in: Dior suspends Galliano for alleged anti-Semitism

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    sabiwabi

    I wonder if they also have a law for making anti-Islamic remarks.

    No, only one RELIGION gets this special protection.

    I'd like to know what he said, since the term "anti-semite" gets thrown around so much. Without knowing what he said, this AP article is quite meaningless.

    Posted in: Dior suspends Galliano for alleged anti-Semitism

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    sabiwabi

    There is no "Palestine.

    Exactly, the Israelis wiped it off the map.

    Iran encourages Israel's destruction and assists the groups that are actively trying to destroy Israel.

    No, these groups are fighting against illegal occupation and aggressions, big difference. Stop blaming the victim.

    And Israel constantly threatens to attack Iran for allegedly pursuing (without evidence) what Israel already has.

    Iran has ... all the tools necessary to make and deliver a nuclear bomb.

    If ever they wanted to make nuclear weapons, they still have a very long way to go. And they allow full inspections, so the world can confirm that the radioactive material has not been diverted to weapons.

    Even the most politically uninformed recognize Iraq and Iran are completely different.

    However, the lying press is exactly the same. And surprisingly, despite the huge loss of life on all sides, people are not concerned by who intentionally lied and why.

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    atamant,

    Why do you continue to stalk me, you're always following me around this forum, often with meaningless comments.

    If you have an opinion on the article, post it; if not, ....!

    And stop trying to express my opinions, as you seem to have no clue what they are.

    Moderator: To all readers - Please focus your comments on the story, not at or about each other.

    Posted in: Gadhafi's hold whittled away as Libya revolt spreads

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    sabiwabi

    I hope they capture him (and his sons) before he escapes with all his gold.

    Posted in: Gadhafi's hold whittled away as Libya revolt spreads

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    sabiwabi

    Israel has not encouraged the destruction of another country.

    They just go ahead and destroy them (e.g., Palestine).

    They even threaten to attack Iran for allegedly pursuing (without evidence) what Israel already has. This does not make any sense.

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    Although Iran signed the NPT, it does not always follow the NPT rules and does not always allow open inspections.

    You are wrong. People are also ignoring that America's own intelligence believes Iran is NOT pursuing nuclear weapons.

    As Israel is not a party to the NPT, it does not have to.

    True. But they have no business complaining about Iran's peaceful civilian nuclear program. Also, that makes all American financial and military aid to Israel over the past few decades illegal!!!

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    They violated the NPT when they built a secret enrichment facility in the side of mountain, and only disclosed it after it had already been discovered.

    They did not violate the NPT. They disclosed the facility long before they had to, which is not before they start building but rather before moving radioactive material into the facility. They did not violate the NPT, despite the 3 stooges's (Obama, Sarko, and Brown) attempt to make Iran look bad.

    Iran signed the NPT is following the NPT rules and allows open inspections; Israel does not.

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    Israel considers Iran a threat because of its nuclear program, missile development and frequent references by its leader to Israel’s destruction. Iran denies it has nuclear weapons ambitions, but it backs militant anti-Israel groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.

    Hmmmm, seems that what AP is doing is trying to get people to subconsciously make the following associations [nuclear program] + [missile development] + [prediction of zionist regime disappearance] = developing nuclear missiles to destroy Israel.

    Nah there nuclear missiles are purely for peaceful purposes like.... Gee what do you use a nuke for again???? Thats right maybe destroying your enemy the one you constantly threaten to destroy

    Seems AP's strategy works on some people.

    How gullable are some of these people who have been sucked into the Iran the peaceful country propaganda.

    There is no evidence to the contrary. Seems those gullible people who fell for Saddam's WMDs are the same who are falling for Iran's nuclear weapons.

    Fact is, there is one regime in the Middle East with nuclear weapons who has attacked its neighbours many times and constantly threatens to attack Iran; its Israel, they should shut up and stop whining about Iran.

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    I could not care less what the Israelis say about it.

    Funny that, you do nothing but repeat Israeli talking points.

    Posted in: Gadhafi appears on TV to dispel rumors he has fled

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    sabiwabi

    Iran and Israel are bitter enemies. Israel considers Iran a threat because of:

    1. its nuclear program - so what? they signed the NPT and allow free inspections; no evidence of Iran pursuing nuclear weapons.

    2. missile development - so what? they have not attacked their neighbours in centuries. Why shouldn't they able to build up a defense against the saber rattlers (US, Israel,...)

    3. frequent references by its leader to Israel’s destruction - so he predicted that the regime occupying Jerusalem will vanish, just as the Soviet regime did. So what?

    Funny how agencies like AP take advantage of these situations to list again and again the alleged negative points of one side, Iran, while NEVER mentioning the actual negative points, and there are many, of the other side, Israel. Funny that!

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    Why would a ship from a peaceful country like Iran be considered a provocation? Provocations are acts like keeping millions of people prisoners under terrible conditions of malnutrition and poor access to medical treatment (Gaza), or murdering thousands of innocent unarmed civilians (e.g., Gaza and Lebanon in very recent history), bombing known and clearly marked UN schools and outposts; those are provocations, but a peaceful country like Iran visiting its friend Syria should not be of any concern.

    Israeli security officials said that as long as the ships remain in international waters, there is nothing Israel can legally do.

    That hasn't stopped them before. Recall the humanitarian flotilla and the USS Liberty.

    Posted in: Israel: Iranian naval vessels are provocation

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    sabiwabi

    And in Lebanon, Hezbollah arose form the murderous Israeli invasion.

    No. Hezbollah arose from PLO stupidity originally.

    Yeah, that is what the Israelis say. They often lie, you know, VERY often.

    Posted in: Gadhafi appears on TV to dispel rumors he has fled

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    sabiwabi

    They did originally withdraw their request according to Egyptian authorities.

    They have? You wouldn't happen to have a link for that would you?

    There was a delay, but not because of Iran withdrawing their request.

    At any rate, they are not going anywhere near Gaza.

    Yeah, they had no intention of going there. Iran did not back down from anything.

    Posted in: Israel claims Iran warships planning to transit through Suez Canal

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    sabiwabi

    Iran backed down. As they should have.

    Backed down? They're going through the canal this very minute!

    Posted in: Israel claims Iran warships planning to transit through Suez Canal

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    sabiwabi

    However, as I pointed out, leaving Lebanon, Gaza and Iran to decide their paths led them to where they are now regardless of the history before that.

    Leaving them decide their paths? What are you talking about? The west did not let the Gazans chose their own path; when they elected Hamas, the west imposed sanctions.

    And in Lebanon, Hezbollah arose form the murderous Israeli invasion.

    Posted in: Gadhafi appears on TV to dispel rumors he has fled

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    sabiwabi

    kinniku/atamant,

    Why do you think those countries have expressed anti-Western sentiments? I hope you will not say that its because they hate our freedom!

    While it may be possible for Libya to escape the lure of extremists, it would be naive to suggest extremists are not interested in gaining power in Libya just as they are interested in gaining power in Egypt.

    There is a danger of extremism on all sides. We could say that the US and Israeli regimes are extremists...

    Posted in: Gadhafi appears on TV to dispel rumors he has fled

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