Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    sailwind

    Yabits,

    By contrast, I continually see a Chris Matthews.....

    I'm glad you brought him up. Let's go straight to the horses mouth on this one. Chris Matthews discussing Romney Nov 25th on his show Hardball.

    And that’s what we call a dynamic. He goes in there and says, “I’m running, I can win,” and because we know he doesn’t take chances, the national media, which leans a little to the left I could argue, could smash him.

    I rest my case.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    If Obama didn’t demand the plane back, conservatives would have branded the president weak on terror.

    He didn't demand it back, He politely asked for it back being the nice guy he is and all.

    Posted in: Obama requests Iran to give back downed U.S. drone

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    sailwind

    The Truth matters,

    I checked out your links.

    First one..........

    As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.

    A progressive group?????? They have left wing bias right off the bat. Non-Profit sources of information? The Soviet Union had the same thing for their media.

    Your blog link.....

    States right on the banner "Real Liberal politics"

    Let's try this link instead.

    http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

    While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.

    These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.

    And pay attention to the last part of their research and avoided being labeled bias themselves.

    The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research.

    "No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said.

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    sailwind

    Anyone who saw Piers Morgan's interview with Michael Moore last Thursday on CNN, to name but one recent example, saw Morgan indicating his firm disagreement and skepticism with Moore on many of his points.

    That would be the same CNN that asked this super tough question a few weeks ago to President Obama I take it.

    “Last night at the Republican debate, some of the hopefuls, they hope to get your job, they defended the practice of waterboarding which is a practice you banned in 2009. Herman Cain said, quote, ‘I don’ see that as torture.’ Michele Bachmann said that it’s, quote, ‘very effective.’ So I’m wondering if you think that they’re uninformed, out of touch, or irresponsible?” CNN’s White House correspondent Dan Lothian asked President Obama in Hawaii.

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    sailwind

    Look at how that is dominated by republicans. Guess what, it was last week, the week before and the week before that too. And I'll bet you a slice of pizza that it will be that way next week also.

    You conveniently skipped that part of my post. It was very important. The Sunday morning news shows set the tone for the week.

    How many Democratic strategists do you see on the docket on these so-called liberal stations?

    Your theory doesn't pass the sniff test.

    Your counter points are strawman points. The democrats are not running any challengers to Obama in the next election cycle. The focus is on the republicans and who they may run and what policies they will pursue against him in the next election. Primary season is soon here with Iowa and on the political front all the attention is on the republicans at this stage. they are the ones that are newsworthy for now. So of course they will dominate the talk shows at this stage. Where your argument falls apart is not that they are on the shows but are they being treated on the shows without any bias in their questioning or on their positions.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    in other words, was a right-wing response to fair and accurate reporting.

    Enjoy being in the 25 percent of Americans that share your "view".

    By a large margin, respondents said reporters were “politically biased in their reporting,” with a record high of 63 percent agreeing with this view and only 25 percent disagreeing.

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    sailwind

    Kenneth Tomlinson, while chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, commissioned a $10,000 government study into Bill Moyers' PBS program, NOW.[

    I did some research and re-enforced my conclusion that PBS is a waste of tax dollars and really is nothing more than a political propaganda outfit at its core management level and reflects whatever administration be it Republican or democratic that is power at the time to press its talking points. Kenneth Tomlinson short bio.

    Tomlinson was appointed as chairman of the CPB board by President George W. Bush, for a two-year term, in September 2003. He embarked upon a mission to purge CPB of what he perceived as "liberal bias".[6] His efforts sparked complaints of political pressure.

    Bush hack appointee. One of Obama's appointees at NPR a Vivian Schiller got into a lot of hot water for firing Juan Williams at NPR along with many other issues later on such as promoting the idea that the Tea party was racist and filled with extremists that she was finally was forced to resign. The chief executive officer of NPR resigned Wednesday after a series of controversies at the public broadcaster formerly known as National Public Radio.

    Which is unfortunate because the folks that were are not in management there has done some outstanding investigative journalism over the years. Frontline is a prime example of what objective journalism should inspire to attain at all times and I have watched it on many occasions. But the bottom line is the Federal Government needs to get out of using our tax dollars to fund Public broadcasting, its nothing more than political hacks at the top and cheapens the real efforts of journalistic professionals who do still try to maintain objectivity in their stories.

    As for the rest of your examples. Anyone who does watches Fox news and doesn't know it has a Conservative bias is to put it bluntly a moron. Secondly the reason Fox news even exists as a counter to the rest of the mainstream media is because there was an actual market for a conservative news organization to compete with the monopoly the liberal media had already established. You mentioned common sense. Common sense tells you that if a market exists and the dominate liberal media powers ignored it through its blatant liberal bias reporting that someone would step up and fill the void. Which is exactly what happened and Fox came into being. Common sense also tells you that very existence of Fox news as a competitor in the Media market place and in fact thriving there makes a mockery of the fact in the mainstream media claims that it was fair and balanced and objective in its reporting in the first place. If that was really the case Fox news could have never have existed.

    And for examples of a Conservative being on talk show host panels at the major networks. The networks have to try show some semblance of objectivity if they don't there falling ratings as it is would be so bad that they would go completely under, which many already are teetering on brink as it is with their Liberal bias shoddy reporting, all except for Fox that is.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    The idea that the media is liberal is simply not true.

    You are in the minority few of Americans on that one. Story is dated Sept 23 2011

    Record numbers of Americans consider the news media to be “immoral,” “inaccurate,” and “biased,” a new poll says.

    A plurality of Americans, 42 percent, said that the press was “immoral,” compared with 38 percent who viewed the news media as “moral” — a record high according to an annual Pew Research poll on the media.

    By a large margin, respondents said reporters were “politically biased in their reporting,” with a record high of 63 percent agreeing with this view and only 25 percent disagreeing.

    Meanwhile, another poll out this week reaffirmed the continuing American perception of liberal bias in the news media, and showed deep mistrust in the accuracy of their reporting.

    Americans were asked whether they have much trust and confidence in the mass media, and a majority — 55 percent — responded “not very much” or “none at all,” according to a Gallup poll. A majority of respondents have remained distrustful of the media since 2007.

    A significant majority of respondents, 60 percent, also perceive bias in the media — 47 percent said the media is too liberal, and 13 percent said that that it was too conservative.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    Hope you're enjoying the cake you're having while keeping it, too, Sailwind! Republicans "control the Government's purse strings" now, but Obama is to blame for the deficit?

    Congress control the purse strings. The house when the Republicans took control passed a budget and the Democrat controlled Senate has not seen fit to move on it. As as matter of fact the since Obama took office the Congress has not even passed a budget period. For three years!!!! Obama has had a free reign more or less to spend as he pleases which he has and has only turned to Congress to raise his credit card limit. The deficit, he owns it all right, well not really we own the debt he's incurred which would have been a heck lot less if Congress would have done its job in the first place and had passed a budget in the first place, a real budget based on reality and not fiscal fantasy and they couldn't even pass a fantasy one.

    And JT posters still blame the negative press it "the left."

    You can take this to the bank. Most every main stream press article from now on despite the fact that Gingrich was a public figure and there is really nothing new to report negatively in his past that hasn't already been reported a thousand times before. That is not going to stop the press though they are going to report his past foilbles a thousand times more and treat it like its the latest news that came out of them. The same negative thing will be reported over and over again in every article. Starting with this one.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    Still, as the GOP seems deficient in the White Knight department, one of these two will likely end up the nominee. It's like that whole Tea Party thing never happened at all, isn't it?

    The Tea party is a movement was based on fiscal conservatism first and foremost. It was not a movement based on religious conservatism, anyone who has actually looked at the movement knows this. Gingrich through all his faults is also remembered for his role in thwarting Bill Clinton's big government schemes and restoring fiscal sanity to Washington when he was Speaker of the House and controlled the Government's purse strings. The Tea party movement is looking for that type of leadership again in Washington and Gingrich has that fiscal and policy making experience. It is no shock or surprise that he has significant Tea party support. As Bill Clinton famously said "It's the economy stupid".

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

    Shouldn't it be "As Gingrich surges, Media attacks?"

    Be more accurate in the reporting on him now.

    Posted in: As Gingrich surges, Romney attacks

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    sailwind

    @sailwind Anyone know Obama's college grades yet?

    Have you seen any POTUS' grades? They are sealed for everyone for a reason.

    Next!!!

    Confidential college transcripts and test scores obtained by the Washington Post reveal that neither presidential candidate, George W. Bush nor Al Gore, were shining students during their college days at Yale and Harvard, respectively. Both earned a mix of B and C grades. Gore's lowest grade of D came in a natural sciences course, while his top grades were an A in French and English, an A in Visual and Environmental Studies, and an A- in Social Relations. Bush's lowest marks were a 70 (of 100) in Sociology and a 71 in Economics, while his highest scores were High Passes in History and Japanese.

    Interesting that Bush took Japanese in college I'd say..........Next!!!!!!

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    You then went on to suggest that people who supported Clinton were idiots

    I held yabits accountable for his statement and never stated such a thing myself as my personal view,

    You came on here and said people who call others 'idiots' for not agreeing with them or their politics lacked self-responsibility and had no compunction.

    Calling people Idiots, dolts and whatever juvenile words they can use to demean and degrade an individual shows no self-responsibility as the intended effect is to willfully inflict damage to either an individual or a whole group that may support that individual and his or her beliefs. Once this becomes the norm in demonizing an individual or group after a while future generations are more prone to view them as outsiders or even sub-human in the extreme case. Self responsibility is to exercise care in ones speech as words can lead to actions and if used to demean, degrade and diminish can lead to actions that promote and in fact condone violence against the group being demonized.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    Smith,

    Yabits posted,

    The other woman claims the friendship was actually an affair. I believe the woman far more than I would believe a chump who would keep such a relationship a secret from his wife.

    Now, as for the word "idiot," it describes people who would support a man who has acted and lied just as Cain has done

    .A man who acted as Cain is alleged to have done wold be non other than Mr. Bill Clinton.

    Your said

    > You, instead, came on here and suggested that 'idiot' refer to people who 'support a certain immoral candidate' and made reference to Clinton (and as such his supporters). How does that foot taste?

    I fail to see how one could not make the obvious connection.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    I get it. If I had gotten behind Herman Cain, and I had no sense of self-responsibility, I'd be trying to take it out on other people too.

    A person with no sense of self-responsibility would also have no compunction on calling folks that disagree with them politically "idiots' or other really demeaning language and not think twice about it or the harm that they cause to another individual or to our national political discourse. Those on the right are also not immune to this crassness though it sure is obvious that this trait is a lot more prevalent in those who have a liberal political outlook,

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    The other woman claims the friendship was actually an affair. I believe the woman far more than I would believe a chump who would keep such a relationship a secret from his wife.

    Now, as for the word "idiot," it describes people who would support a man who has acted and lied just as Cain has done.

    Yabits, you made a firm clear concise statement with out qualifications,

    First was that Clinton won the White House despite his moral problems. His presidency must therefore be evaluated in terms of its accomplishments -- which ended up in his winning a second term -- independently from his moral failings.

    Now I see you have qualified it. Though I am still confused. You stated that you didn't support Clinton the candidate and that people who did were idiots.Since he was elected it was now okay on your part to join the idiots which makes you smart now?

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    The other woman claims the friendship was actually an affair. I believe the woman far more than I would believe a chump who would keep such a relationship a secret from his wife.

    Now, as for the word "idiot," it describes people who would support a man who has acted and lied just as Cain has done.

    If that is the case Yabits and your beiefs, please post your withdrawal of support for President Clinton and start calling his current supporters "idiots" also.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    Ahhh So Sugar Cain finally decided that his name was strong enough to enrich his bank account. He will be laughing all the way to the bank. I wonder how long before Fox signs him for a talk show.

    Mr, Cain was`already a self made millionaire with plenty of money he had earned previously in his career before he even announced that he was running for President. Highly doubtful that he did this to increase his name to get more cash in the bank.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    Who said such a thing? Cain's deficiencies in nuanced thinking has no more to do with race than Bachmann's does with gender.

    I fail to reach any other conclusion that you have drawn other than based`on your racial bias. It is certainly not based on factual evidence.

    It does not square with Mr. Cain's educational background.

    Graduated from Morehouse College in 1967 with a Bachelor of Science in mathematics.

    Accepted for graduate studies at Purdue University, Cain received a Master of Science in computer science there in 1971,

    Mathematics and Computer Science are disciplines that are steeped in nuanced thinking. What is even more impressive is that Mr. Cain was in the beginning of the vanguard of a pretty brand new field called Computer Science in the early seventies was get getting started and eventual led to the internet and technologies that we have today. Again I must conclude that your basing your demeaning rhetoric and others demeaning rhetoric based on racial stereotypes and not on actual facts.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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    sailwind

    I'm gonna miss him. Maybe the funniest thing about Cain was that for a few months he forced the racist right-wing nutjobs to claim that he was great.

    Agreed, now that his mind control force beam has been defeated those right wing racist nutjobs can get back to supporting Romney.

    Posted in: Cain 'suspends' U.S. presidential campaign

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