Tuesday February 14, 2012

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    sarcasm123

    Double standards again.

    Hmmm, I'll go with choice number 1.

    It is not a choice, my dear. All 3 are present, pretty obviously.

    Yes, I want to see the proof for myself. I've been around far too long to start believing something just because it appeared in print or was reported on the radio. I have no idea who works for who or who represents what agenda. SHOW ME THE PROOF.

    Ok, keep this idea in mind, and then read the following:

    The fact that the research exists is sufficient.

    So rather than being interested in content, you are just happy if something is reported. Does not fit with your "SHOW ME THE PROOF", as in: "show me the proof that this research is really relevant". Double standard No. 1.

    The bottom line is that the IWC OK'd the taking of 1/10 of 1 percent of the minke whales. That small sample is NOT going to affect the overall population of the minke.

    Those population numbers come from the whalers themselves. Yet, not for a second have you questioned this number. Does not fit with your idea of

    I've been around far too long to start believing something just because it appeared in print or was reported on the radio. I have no idea who works for who or who represents what agenda. SHOW ME THE PROOF.

    Which is double standard No. 2.

    Blaming japan for "possibly" (I still want to see the proof.)

    Yes, HERE you want to see proof, and in the 2 cases I pointed out above you did NOT want to see proof. Got it now? Why the double standards?

    What I find absolutly astounding is that the anti-whalers chose to ignore video after video of the Sea Shepards repeatedly attacking the whalers. Someone is going to get killed.

    And the video of the whalers shooting pepper spray onto each other, right?

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    no they are ignorant and manipulated by media. Sheople. ask them why they eat dolphin and leave it at that.

    The problem is more complicated. These people will answer with a straight face: "because it is our culture", despite the person in question have NEVER eaten any dolphin, and even not knowing about this killing before The Cove told him about it.

    Posted in: 'Cove' star calls on Hollywood to save dolphins

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    Grafton at 07:21 AM JST - 16th June Think of your home counties and ask how you would feel, how your fellow countrymen would feel if a group of Japanese film makers did something of this kind there?

    The main problem is that, while in many countries criticism comes from within, in Japan this is completely not possible. A Japanese film crew could NEVER make this documentary. But when a foreign crew comes and makes criticism, the Japanese complain. The conclusion seems to be: "Japan shall not be criticised".

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    sarcasm123

    Fine, let them quit. At least this will be the end of the blatant lies about "research".

    This country is so childish on this matter. I feel ashamed for them.

    Posted in: Japan may quit whaling commission if ban stays put

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    sarcasm123

    Oh, sure, arrestpaul, I will comment on it, playing along with your childish game for a second.

    sarcasm123 - Bwahaha, when bad news comes some here demand to see every little detail, not believing any word until they see things with their own eyes.

    Here I go, are you paying attention? Like I said, when some news appears, and a certain type of poster does not like it, they often demand to see the original proof. This has in general 3 reasons: 1. they want to see the proof, which is a natural and positive response. 2. they have no idea how to give a reasonable reply to the news, so they are mainly trying to gain some time. 3. they want to make the opponent give up on the discussion by asking unreasonable requests (such as asking for evidence that obviously cannot be found easily, or is not available).

    I would say that you and others are using the requests for more evidence in all 3 ways. After all, you do know that the video of these officials being framed is not available yet, do you? Yet some ask for it, as if they can ignore the accusations in the article "because the video is not available". Can you see how stupid this is? Don't worry. Or the video will appear some day, or it will be shown to those to whom it really matters (judges perhaps?). This idea that ALL evidence is out there just for your convenience is an illusion.

    Now, for the second part of what I wrote, the part you "conveniently" forgot to quote.

    Yet... When Japan claims whaling is their tradition, how many of them checked by themselves to see if this was true? When the Japanese claim they are doing research, how many of them checked the relevance of this research, either by themselves or by reading comments made by other researchers in the same field?

    While the request for more evidence seems like a noble one, it suddenly disappears in the case of news or rumours that fit with the opinion of the commenter. No, suddenly random pages written by who knows are sufficient (see the link given by OssanAmerica above for example). Be very sure of it: not a single pro-whaler here has ever read ANY of the so called "research papers" produced by the whalers, nor have they ever read the comments given by people from the same field. After all, the "request for more evidence" is very flexible: when they want reject criticism every piece of evidence is useful, but on the other hand: when they do NOT want something to be rejected every piece of further information is to be avoided. That is why they stay away from further looking into the scientific part of this topic: they KNOW that any additional piece of information will only turn out to their disadvantage.

    Now, again, care to comment on this second part? I don't think so.

    Moderator: How about giving the reader a chance to comment before saying "I don't think so."

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    arrestpaul, I give you today's "Selective quoting" award. Care to comment on the second part of what I wrote?

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    Bwahaha, when bad news comes some here demand to see every little detail, not believing any word until they see things with their own eyes.

    Yet... When Japan claims whaling is their tradition, how many of them checked by themselves to see if this was true? When the Japanese claim they are doing research, how many of them checked the relevance of this research, either by themselves or by reading comments made by other researchers in the same field?

    NOT A SINGLE ONE.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    In fact! Japan - in its never ending kindness - probably offered bribes so that other countries would not commit the sin of bribery. You see: it was protecting the other countries! Ah, Japan, always paying attention to the needs of others :P

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    In criminal law it is common that the bribee(?) or the person takes bribes are more responsible then the briber(?) since the person who is on the receiving side will always have the last say not the otherway around.

    Oh yeah, we all know that whatever happens, Japan is not the bad one. Japan is the poor victim of everything. Hey, they offered bribes and prostitutes because of their innate friendliness and those bad bad foreigners accepted it!! Can you believe it!? And now the white man is going to blame Japan... Ah, the irony!

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    So, where is the outrage caused by this news in Japan today? Coverage on tv: 0 seconds.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    Oh come on, the Japanese claim so much on this topic. I will remember your username and see if you question any of their claims next time. This includes that so called research, and their so called "aid" they offer to these countries.

    Good night.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    And again some here "need more proof" for this and that, while they are always happy to believe any word the Japanese side says without seeing any :P

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    Not for a second do I believe AUS or NZ would offer bribes and call girls to some small countries to buy their votes. If they would, the people of those countries would be outraged. Only in Japan is this approach seen as acceptable.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    So, Zenny11, are you trying to make Japan look worse, or better. It is unclear from what you write here.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    I think I will try to write my piece on bribes and call girls being part of Japanese culture on that Japanese news page :P

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    Come on, you have to be pretty far gone to think this will make the news here. When Japan can show itself as the victim, yes, THEN it makes the news. But this news shows Japan as the dirtly little country it really is when it comes to such matters. It will be completely ignored on all levels.

    this evening there was a documentary on cameroon about some other lizard animal being eaten to extinction by the natives.

    I saw it too. Nice to see you compare the first world country Japan to a tribe of aboriginals. :P

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    For how many years have the japanese been accused of vote-buying(not saying they don't) but it ALWAYS comes up times like this.

    So now we have to be considerate for the briber and bring out the news only at times that are convenient for them?? :P

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    What?? This news has been on this site for many hours now, and still no post by davidattokyo??? Did he have a heart attack??

    Anyway, I think the West should not be to harsh on Japan. You see, bribing and call girls are Japanese Great Culture. Any Western nation trying to stop these habbits is trying to oppress the Japanese and their Great Culture. The Sunday Times is writing nothing but Western Propaganda! We Japanese must protect our culture, and protect Japanese traditional bribing and Japanese traditional call girls! I suggest we open a so called "research" institute to study these parts of our culture. I suggest that that great center of Japanese Culture - the Japanese whaling institute - starts this study, because they have already great experience in the study of Japanese traditional whaling and Japanese traditional embezzlement.

    Posted in: Japan bribed small nations with cash, call girls to get whaling vote: Sunday Times

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    sarcasm123

    That's one guy who is probably not going to get robbed.

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    sarcasm123

    There is no discrepancy and it ain't funny. I am not sheep following blindly a narcissistic shepherd.

    So when Japan tells you it is whaling for "research", what do you think? Do you believe it, or not?

    Posted in: Sea Shepherd kicks out activist on trial in Japan

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