JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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sarcasm123
It's funny.
The Sea Shepherd says they did not know about the bow, yet there is no doubt they knew about it. Some posters here point out that what is told does not reflect the truth.
Here comes the funny part: some of the same posters absolutely fail to understand that while Japan says it is doing research, it is just catching whales for commercial purposes.
Why this discrepancy? On one hand these posters are obviously able to detect the difference between "excuse" and "reality" in the SS case, yet they completely ignore the similar "excuse" and "reality" in the Japanese whaling case.
I find it funny.
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sarcasm123
Again: ... according to the data given to us by former commercial whalers who are desperate to go back to their original job. And YOU believe that data??
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sarcasm123
I said SCIENTISTS not Whalers. As you told us so often: the W stands for Whaling.
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sarcasm123
Easy. Just ask real scientists to evaluate its work. Both you and I know how they feel about it.
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sarcasm123
... according to the data given to us by former commercial whalers who are desperate to go back to their original job. And YOU believe that data??
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sarcasm123
Come on, david, no stalling. Show me the reference.
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sarcasm123
Yes, I do read Japanese. Where do you think the "28 ships" fact comes from. No Japanese would ever dare to write such things in English!
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sarcasm123
Oh come on, even Japan partly admits that the "research" story is just a cover up, a loop hope. In other words: just pretending. But you are right, it will have to be proven. See my first post here: get some real researchers out there to evaluate Japan's "research" and whether or not this "research" requires lethal sampling. If they do this, I feel that the conclusion will be just like I wrote.
Nononono, my dear. The Japanese claim is as follow: "we Japanese have been eating this whale for centuries". My question again: how did those 28 whaling ships provide "We, 50 million Japanese" with whale meat on a regular basis? Normal Japan, IF they even ate whale at all, ate whale perhaps a few times per year. Now, tell me honestly: do you think the Japanese are now suffering because they cannot eat whale 2 or 3 times a year?? :P
So, in other words, some who claim it is Japan's culture to whale, should in fact be claiming that it is much more the West's culture to whale. Yet, I NEVER hear any western people state stupid things like: "it is our culture to whale so we should keep doing it forever".
In 1908 Japan had just modernized it whaling fleet at was at the highest capacity ever. 28 ships, my dear, 28 ships. For 50 million mouth to feed.
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sarcasm123
Citation please.
Not holding my breath though. You have a bad track record when it comes to showing evidence...
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sarcasm123
And let me add that the population of Japan at that time was almost 50 million. Are you going to tell me that those 28 ships were capable to put whale meat on the table a number of times per week for a significant part of that population?
A second miracle with the fishes? :P
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sarcasm123
I will give you the same answer I wrote a few days ago: 2 parties have an agreement on NOT to do something except under some specific conditions, and then 1 party does it anyway pretending to fit the conditions. Do you think the party can be found guilty of braking the agreement? I think many will answer "yes".
If part 1 turns out in favour of Australia's claim it will be a question of whether this second party is really relevant.
As did plenty of other contries. Yet non of them is going that far as to PRETEND to be doing research in order to continue whaling.
Notice the AFTER WWII part. 60 years ago. What a long culture...
In 1908 Japan - with it's oh so important whaling culture - had less than 30 whaling ships. I believe the US had about 700. Care to comment on this?
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sarcasm123
I support it, and I hope EVERYTHING will be investigated in great detail.
I want to see graphs with the number of whales catched by Japanese from 100 years ago until now. That way we will understand how ridiculous the "it is our culture" claim is. Japan only started whaling on a large scale relatively recently. Whale meat was not common in Japan until about 60 years ago.
I want to see a very detailed history of the last 30 years, so we can see how the exact same institute, people, and infrastructure that were used for commercial whaling are now used for "research".
I want to see a detailed explanation on what happens with the whale meat from the catches: how much is caught, how much goes in the freezer for forever, and what happens with the rest: how much goes to normal restuarants, and how much is put into school lunches.
I want to see a detailed investigation of the "research papers" published by these whalers. How much of it uses samples taken in a lethal way, how much of that really needs lethal sampling. How many papers are published in what kind of journals: Japanese journals nobody reads, Japanese papers published by - let's say - "friends" of the whalers, and international peer reviewed papers. I want TRUE researchers from the field commenting on the overall quality of this research, and the need of lethal sampling.
I want a detailed explanation on the financial side of this whaling institute: what comes from the sales of meat, what comes form donations from what kind of organisations, and how much comes from us, the taxpayers. I want that last amount compared to what REAL research institutes receive, institutes working on subjects that actually matter.
I want a detailed analysis of financial flows between Japan and African and Asian countries in the IWC, and how these flows of money influence voting behaviour.
And finally, I want this all presented also to the general Japanese public, so that finally its eyes will open to the incredible wast ofe money this whole "research" lie is.
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sarcasm123
What he wrote is lacking logic on all levels. Starting with the "we have to kill them to count them" all the way to "we cannot measure their length without killing them".
Which they are.
I have never used this argument.
Even this one I have mever used. Although I am worried about the fact that there is a tendency to get this meat on the lunch plate of students.
It takes more than that, and yes, I do think it is cruel.
I think you will find they are not as desprate as "we have to kill them or we might count them twice!".
I think you have never read my posts.
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sarcasm123
Let's make a conclusion: Japan is hunting whales. It does so, not because it is culture (because they started hunting whales on a large scale only 60 years ago), not because Japanese like whale meat (most Japanese NEVER eat whale and those who try it often say it is terrible), and not because of research.
They hunt whales because some local politician got the support of a few small cities relying on whaling. He get elected, and pumps money in the cities, in the form of subsidies for "research" on whales. The guys who do this "research" are just the former commercial whalers, and they would not know how to measure an animal without killing them. In other words: they are completely not able to do real research. So, they just kill whales and pretend to do research. The meat comming from this is stored in big freezers because nobody really wants to eat it.
No efforts have been made to develop techniques for non-lethal whaling, because the only goal of these whalers is to kill the animals and put it in the freezer. However, since they are getting money for doing research, the write some low quality papers, and publish it in mostly Japanese journals, and some low level international journals. In both cases, their papers are completely ignored by the scientific community. However, it DOES seem to be sufficient to keep the tax money flowing: every year these guys get a larg amount of money from the government.
THAT is Japan's Oh-so-great whaling culture. They can be proud of it.
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sarcasm123
Damn, I am looking forward to cite david in the future: "You cannot know the size of a whale without killing it" :P
I think the Japanese whaling fan club will not be very happy with the job david is doing here lately...
Moderator: Sarcasm123 and davidattokyo, please stop going around in circles and sniping at each other. From here on, repetitive posts will be removed. Better still, please take a break and allow other readers to contribute.
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sarcasm123
Come on, david, you have not 1 paper to show us about non-lethal methods studied by the Japanese, and you you need to kill a whale to measure its size.
Do you have to kill it to know its collor too? And its sex? :P
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sarcasm123
Yet other wild animals seem to do...? How else would you explain studies on their sizes, eh?
You must be joking. You know of absolutely no way to know the size of an object without killing or shooting it???
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sarcasm123
So, by the time david finally presents a (completely unrelated) paper... he got the name of the journal wrong...
Sigh...
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sarcasm123
A journal which barely shows up when you Google it...
Tell me davidattokyo, will it be REALLY worth my time to check this paper? Or would you care to cite the interesting part here?
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sarcasm123
I wrote:
And david answered:
See this, everyone? I ask for a paper, and davidattokyo gives me a picture of a whale... :P
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