JAPAN NEWS AND DISCUSSION
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- Assistant Language Teacher (ALT) in Kanto region
- RCS (RCSコーポレーション), Kanto
- Salary: ¥180,000 ~ ¥250,000 / Month includes performance bonus
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- Assistant Language Teacher - TOKYO - late-March start
- Interac, Tokyo
- Salary: ¥230,000 ~ ¥255,000 / Month
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- Assistant Language Teacher - Kanagawa Prefecture - late-March start
- Interac, Kanagawa
- Salary: ¥230,000 ~ ¥255,000 / Month
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Yes he is. And the reason he uses such bad language the last few days is because he feels he is losing. He is looking foolish because he can't answer any question you ask him.
No papers studying non-lehtal sampling, no papers showing estimates of ages might be sufficient, .... nothing!
davidattokyo knows that it makes no sense, and this makes his effort look completely meaningless. Now: who wants to do a meaningless job like his?? Nobody. That is the reason he is irritated.
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Should that be "Research and Management"???
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Come on, it's pretty simple: they make a hypothesis: "using sizes of whales is a good estimate of their age". They next use the data they got from their Oh-so-important-lethal-sampling methods, and test the hypothesis. Based on the observation they reject the hypothesis, or accept it.
Hey, I am not saying the hypothesis will turn out to e accepted. I am saying that THEY NEVER EVEN CARED TO STUDY IT. Because they are not interested in the research. Only in the "unfortunate" killing of the animal in the progress.
Come on, david, where is the study describing this experiment? Show it NOW.
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Ahum, I think both our geniusses are forgetting 1 simple thing: a human is not a whale.
Come on, davidattokyo, show me the paper. You are claiming I am too lazy or not capable of finding it. The truth is quite different, my dear: normally you present us with reports and quotes from studies all the time, yet this time...?? Silence! Complete silence! :P
I tell you why: you - my dear - know very well that there is no such paper. The reason is that Japan is not doing such research. They are not doing any population studies. No, they are just "collecting data" and not doing any thinking. The reason for that is that the data collection comes together with the killing of whales, which is their only interest.
Come on, prove me wrong. Show me the paper saying that measuring - for example - sizes is not good enough to estimate the age of the animal. THERE IS NO SUCH PAPER BY THE JAPANESE. The reason is likely that thy never tried it. Hey, if they tried it it might make their lethal sampling completely un-necessary, the horror! :P
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After all, is it really necessary to know exactly how old a whale is? I don't think so. Estimating its age to a range of +/- 5 years is probably sufficient to do statistical analysis on it, given enough samples. And by samples here, I mean NON-LETHAL samples.
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SamuraiBlue,
I have why you assume that I have not looked myself. I HAVE looked, yet I have not found anything. "smug attitude" has nothing to do with it, I am just asking the biggest defender of the so-called "research" here to prove that indeed real research is being done, and he is failing miserably.
What does not work with humans is not guaranteed to not work on whales. I want to see the paper that shows there is only a weak correlation between sizes and age. After all, given the huge number of data points the Japanese have by now they should be able to make a nice size vs age plot. Well, now, davidattokyo, WHERE IS THAT PLOT?
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And, my dear david, could you perhaps show us some paper that shows how there is absolutely no correlation found between the age of an animal and any other features it has? I am thinking about for example size? If there is - say - a clear correlation found between age and size, there is no need to kill the animals any more in order to estimate the age: one could just measure its size and estimate its age. After all, the Japanese must have 1000s of age-size data points by now. This should allow for a reasonable estimate.
I am pretty sure such papers must be out there if Japan is REALLY doing research with the goal of understanding the population statistics better... But I am sure you will again fail to produce even 1 such paper.
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I wrote:
and david responsed> That's simply incorrect as anyone with a proper knowledge of the subject knows.
Yet... I have asked him to show us just 1 paper 2 days ago, and he still has not managed to preduce one. Despite being commenting here non-stop all the time.
davidattokyo, I think we conclude that there are no such papers because Japan has never tried any such research. That is because they are not really interested in research, only in killing.
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MistWizard, you are 100% right.
Even more, the Japanese pretend that they are doing research and during the course of taking samples they have no choice but to kill the animals. However, NEVER have they tried to develop methods to gather data in a non-lethal way. The conclusion is clear: they are not interested in the research, they are interested in KILLING the animals, as that gives them the excuse to eat or sell them afterwards.
In the last 30 years of "research", the Japanese have failed to produce even 1 paper on the development of non-lethal methods. On the other hand, they did publish a paper on the development of harpoons...
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Good morning.
So, david, any success?
You say the whalers are doing research, and in the course of that research they have no other choice but to kill the animal. Yet for the data their are gathering there is no real need for killing it. You say there is. So, what we all want to know is whether over the last 30 years of "research", the Japanese have put some effort into developping non-lethal ways for gathering their data. Yet, there are no such papers on their website, nor were you able to present any such papers.
The conclusion seems to be clear, david: the "researchers" are not so much interested in the research, but rather in the "byproduct" of the research, namely the killing of the animal. Hence, no efforts in developping non-lethal sampling.
In other words, this "research" is just a coverup for "killing". Until you can show us some evidence showing the Japanese ever tried to limit their damage to the whale population by investigating non-lethal wampling ways, we will have to call this "research" what it is: a big pile of nonsense. The international scientific community seems to agree with us.
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Empty words from an empty organisation where half of the countries are being paid by the Japanese tax payer to praise the Oh-So-Great-Japanese-Culture of going all the way to the South Pole to hunt animals on order to... count them! :P
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Yes, and I checked and could not find any, and neither could you. BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE! :P
Come on, david, just 1 paper!
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Besides, you admitted it yourself: no research on non-lethal methods has been done by these "researchers" despite 30 years of work...
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Come on, david. Just 1 paper that fits with all that "but they have no other choice but to kill the whales" crap you told us so many times. Show it to us!
Let the chair of whatever be the specialist of the chair he is sitting on, and let scientists evaluate the value of science: the Japanese papers are barely accepted in even low impact journals, and NEVER get cited. The scientific community, yes even those working in the same field - are en masse ignoring the crappy "research" produced by these fishermen.
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david my dear,
Oh, the expert does not know about such a paper, and I too can't find anything about Japan doing research on development of non-lethal methods. Are we to conclude that your little story about them working on such things was... a lie? As so often??
Oh, a mysterious report. But you forgot to write down the title and the author, right? How convenient... I bet it was not a Japanese author...?
That will be fine, thank you very much. I will for the moment be happy with the conclusion that Japan has no interest what so ever in doing some REAL research as to limit the damage of the "population studies". After all, even their biggest supporter is not able to mention 1 single paper on the topic...
Uh, no no no, my dear. They have to catch them to know their age because in the 30 years they have been doing "research", they have not devoted even 1 second into thinking about a way that would allow knowing their age without having to catch AND KILL the animal. You - not being able to provide any paper showing otherwize - would agree, wouldn't you?
Oh, how clever to use the word "fisheries", because we both know very well that there are plenty of land animals where people guess the age of the animal without actually killing it, now don't we? But Japan has no interest in NOT killing the animal. No, they prefer pretending to have no other way but to kill it for their precious research (and eat it afterwards).
davidattokyo admitting that in the 30 years of research not a single clever idea was found by this huge whaling "research" organisations. Well, they are jst fishermen after all, aren't they? It is not that they are real researchers.
Then what is the exact reason that necessitates into killing these animals for research, my dear david? Because, you don't seem to make a lot of sense. You mentioned age, sex, diet... All things that can be known WITHOUT killing, right?
Oh, I will PROBABLY find them? But I don't see anything about research into these methods on the website of the whalers, my dear? And neither are you able to produce any papers on them? Ar we to conclude that - NO! - they are indeed not doing any research into such methods!?
You lost david. Give it up. You are trying to defend something composed of nothing but lies.
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Well, listen. Suppose there is an agreement between 2 parties about not doing something unless under specific conditions. One party does it anyway and just pretends to fit the specific conditions which allow the act. Do you think this is not a violation of the agreement? I think many people would think so.
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And a tracing devide would have benefits in population studies. So, WHERE IS THE PAPER, david, WHERE IS IT??
So, next time you use the "well, we have to catch them to know their age" excuse, you know what I will ask you, right?
Does not compute, david, does not compute. Your story is inconsistent.
Read: they are not really looking for any. If not, SHOW ME THE PAPER, my dear.
The papers, david, SHOW THEM. You can say whatever lies that suit you, I WANT TO SEE THE PROOF. 30 years of research, NOT 1 SUCH PAPER??
Yet you wrote they "have no choice but to kill them" to do the research, my dear. Then why are they killing them?
I could not find any paper on development of such non-lethal methods, dear. Will you show them to me? Or will you admit they do not work on such methods, and have in fact no intention NOT to kill?
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Come on david, I know they have published papers on a new harpoon they developed. So how about a paper about comparing a non-lethal way to replace the lethal methods, or the development of some device for tracing animals so that they do not have to be killed in order to count them, etc?
Come on, show us how big an expert you are, and show us the papers!! I want to see some REAL research!!
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Bwahaha, first trial and immediately down! I can hear you are an expert. So, come on, why the need to kill in catch-at-age research?
"where appropriate" meaning, when the species cannot be eaten?
But but but, you wrote as if they had no other choice but to kill the animal! Yet now you write they have no interest in not killing it...
Does not compute, david, does not compute.
And your problem stems from the fact that you try to defend something that is filled with lies and inconsistencies.
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So david, can you show me any paper by the Japanese "researchers" investigating a non-lethal way of doing the research?
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