Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    seansezso

    Then care to explain why the DNC campaign committee-controlled U.S. media chose to dismiss this story when it first broke last fall; deciding instead to believe edwards' version without any checking on their part?

    The source was the National Enquirer!!!!!! Are you serious???? They also report the American president's meeting with space aliens and the birth of lizard humans!

    And what further checking can they do? Pull a file? Or maybe have a private investigator trail him? Oh, I know! Hire one of those aliens the Enquirer knows to track him via invisible UFO!

    Unlike your "man", Mr. McCain was not running for president 28 years ago.

    Pour. Stir. Mix. Seems to be most of what you do mate. He is running for president now. Or is there a statute of limitations on being culpable for infidelity? Is Mr. Edwards a scum, as you said, but Mr. McCain not scum because his past is old? It seems to me you have a huge double standard.

    Moderator: Readers, from here on, no further references to McCain please. The subject is Edwards.

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    seansezso

    Democrats go after Republicans with glee whenever they can Larry Craig is suppose to be a "typical Republican" as I recall.

    Because the bloke is an anti-gay hypocrite. Republicans dont have a Barney Frank as far I know. And if they do, did they go after him?

    I did not mean to suggest that Democrats leave sex scandals alone. Its just that in my memory, the Republicans are not only more likely to grab the sex scandal, they are also more likely to be hypocrital about it. Mr. Edwards might have said harsh words about Clinton, but did he support legislation to make life difficult for adulterers? No. His hypocrisy is nothing compared to Mr. Craig's.

    McCain first wife story has been told over and over by mud slinging far left democrats trying to get some traction on a total non-story.

    How does that compare to all the money wasted on Monika Lewinsky? Yes, Clinton lied. We all lie when asked questions that are no one's business. If Clinton told a lie that threatened the nation, the madness and expense would have been justified.

    But I know nothing of the mud slung at Mr. McCain. Was this recent or 30 years ago?

    His first wife has has no ill feelings towards him and supports his run for President...It suspends belief to even try to compare the two situations.

    No it does not. What suspends belief is the similarities. I cant say if Mr. Edwards and wife are amicable, but I see they are still married. Would you be happier if they split amicably?

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    seansezso

    Typical..........The fringe left just uses this as another opportunity to sling mud agaisn't McCain. Sezwho, Betzee, seanezso thanks for bringing McCain into this it is soooooo relevant.

    I have no interest in slinging mud on Mr. McCain. Nor am I fringe left. I think its clear from my posts that I dont consider having an affair to be instant mud. To be clear, it depends on circumstances and details. Nobody has said anything here to make me think less of these men. In fact, with what little we know, I tend to think more of them. Both of them. Mr. McCain lost so much of his life in Hanoi. Mr. Edwards is watching his wife die. If what they need to get by is a little extra-marital love, well I could certainly think of worse ways of doing it.

    All the trials and tribulations of a man's life, and so many of you are fixated on sexual fidelity. I can only imagine that many of you have never been around the block to not realize there are worse things. I can imagine that if Mr. Edwards became an alcoholic he would get nothing but pity. But my image is that an adulterer is likely to do a better job of taking care of a dying wife than an alcoholic.

    Driving himself into the ground would certainly be an impressive display of altruism, and a great circus for you selfish observers to watch. But it might not be the best thing for him to do by his wife and family. The pressure has to go somewhere. This may not be as pure as taking a jog, but I bet it is more effective. And its definitely better than so many other ways people deal with it, like drugs, violence, being a miserable SOB giving others a hard time anytime and all the time, becomeing an abusive meddler into other people's business, driving drunk, and beating the kids. I will take people who love over any of those, and I have seen them all.

    But you want perfection? Well you are not going to get it. So there.

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    seansezso

    If Sen Edwards hadn't cheated on his wife the press wouldn't have had a story to begin with. The problem begins with Sen Edwards himself.

    Still does not absolve the press.

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    seansezso

    The above is a quote from RR. Hit the wrong button. My apologies.

    Your posts and position can be anying enough without calling Mr. Edwards "my man". Would you mind discussing maturely please. This top is probably the most I know about the bloke.

    Glad to see that you realize he was forced to talk. And no, I dont think his party has anything to do with his treatment. I point out again the fact that Mr. McCain has not been attacked for his past. In fact, it is the Republicans who go after the Democrats relentlessly on these issues and you know it.

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    seansezso

    Heh, your "man" was forced to "tell the world" after getting caught out. And not by the U.S. liberal media that sat on the story; it comes from a weekly supermarket tabloid. If your "man" had an (R) at the end of his name, we all know it would have been open season on him. The liberal media dogwalker's deference to their political party is noted.

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    seansezso

    And another thing sdmsec. Maybe you are superman, and can juggle a political career and terminal wife with a brave smile and never-ending enthusiasm. Good for you, mate! Some men might need a little fling, not for the sake of selfishness, but for the sake of being able to don that brave smile and see their wife off to the next world. Whether he did that well or poorly might have depended on this, whereas you moralizing is only so useful.

    What hurt Mr. Edward's wife was not the affair; it was knowing about it. And if Mr. Edwards had good reason to think he was safe from the press, he might never have confessed. The press is the real shame here, not only for putting Mr. Edwards in a position where he must confess to his wife, but for also shamelessly running the poor woman through it all over again.

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    seansezso

    Pure selfishness. What else would I expect from a politician? During the time his wife is having the struggle of her life he should be focused on his own needs. To me that's plain ole fashioned selfishness.

    sdmsec, how focused would you like? I put it to you that his career in politics has removed focus from his wife 1000 times more than his affair. In fact, I doubt Mr. Edward's affair kept him away from his wife any more than he would have been away already. His mistress was very near his work.

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    seansezso

    No "man" would allow the woman he vowed to be with in sickness and in health and now has an incurable disease to suffer like that in silence.

    He knew there was a chance the press would find out, and, regardless of this poor woman's feelings, tell the world. Mr. Edwards absolutely had to prepare her for that.

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    seansezso

    What a convoluted question! Of course the Olympics will not bring permanent reform. But they might help. The question should ask if the Olympics will help bring reform.

    Its not like the IOC has presented proposals to the Chinese Premier now is it?

    Posted in: Do you think the Olympics will bring democratic and economic reforms to China?

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    seansezso

    Not sure who are the lower forms of life: edwards or those who are defending him.

    Clearly it is those who post incessently about lies about sex while thinking lies that cause war are somehow equivalent or worse. Clearly it is right wing campaigners with either a lot of free time or who receive a wage from a right wing org.

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    seansezso

    If Bush were to do the same, would you be equally indifferent as you appear to be?

    What happened to?:

    But I'm glad you recognize that certain nations matter more than others.

    Not many here would consider either leader to be their first choice, but certainly they are more concerned about Mr. Bush. Naturally even. For Ahmadinejad to court an anti-semitic is par for his course. He does not like Jews. As far as that being proof that he will rain nukes on Israel give the first opportunity, its a drop in the bucket, maybe two.

    Posted in: Israel mulls military option for Iran nukes

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    seansezso

    This is a resume enhancer...at least for a democrat.

    It doesn't work that way. This time Mr. McCain has been enhanced. Perhaps the republicans are just happy to have a candidate they have proof is not a closet homosexual?

    Mr. Edwards has quite has his reputation ruined.

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    seansezso

    “I think this president has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.”

    This kind of talk will get you support. Its why politicians talk that way. When you, the people, learn to value the truth and respect for other's privacy, and begin to choose politicians accordingly, the politicians will talk differently. Until then, some salt might make those lies go down easier. And don't blame the waitress for what you have ordered.

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    seansezso

    Doncha just love the irony:

    Not as much as the word:

    alleged

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    seansezso

    Don't push your own values on others!

    Mate, he wasn't talking about values. He was talking about desires and what often happens in the real world.

    You are welcome to your values. Just be reasonable and consider reality. The reality is that this happens a lot, and if you are not going to be more tolerant, then you are are going live a life of perpetual frustration.

    Mr. Edwards gave us more truth than we are entitled to. If you dont respect that, then you justify a politician's lying, and that is what you shall have.

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    seansezso

    Dude, there are other places to post your anti-Bush writings and this is not one!"

    Discussing Bush puts this into perspective. Some lies you tolerate from your fellow man and politicians and others you condemn fiercely. By comparison, Mr. Edward's little affair is nothing at all. We should not even be discussing it.

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    seansezso

    But not when your wife is terminally ill and you have two small children.

    Betzee, one reason a bloke gets married is for sexual stability. In some men's minds the terminal illness is grounds for divorce if she isnt doing her wifely duty. His wife is suffering horribly, yes we all know that. Do you think Mr. Edwards is not suffering too? If he left his wife, I would condemn him too. What he has done is probably better characterized as seeking solace and gathering strength so that he can continue to support his dying wife.

    You may view a bloke's needs as petty, but the same can done for a female's needs. Would you be happier if he suffered a complete mental breakdown or let himself get frustrated to the point that he did nothing but give his wife hell during her final days? Sex is very important to the blokes, more than you probably want to admit.

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    seansezso

    kinniku's link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/22/AR2006092201306_2.html

    In the original speech, no mention of "map" was ever made (thus the other translation using "history" instead). So when the bloke accuses Ahmadinejad of saying it, I dont think he knows what he is talking about. He never said "map". Further, it was not Ahmadinjad's quote, was it? It was Khomeni's. So it is further confused by the bloke saying Ahmadinejad is quoted. Further, it is an English idiom. The connotations are lost on most people of the world. They only see its literal meaning "country erased from paper map" and no assumptions of violence or threats can be seen by any but a native English speaker or someone very knowledgeable about English.

    In short, they are talking past eachother (Consider Ahmadinejad asking if its a test!). Ahmadinejad does not deny wanting Israel gone, the literal meaning of wipe off the map. We can all agree that Ahmadinejad would love that outcome (enemies do that). But, kinniku, you said that Ahmadinejad did not clarify the statement. Its more like he does not know what the heck the big deal is, and does not confront the issue as you and the reporter want. He does clarify actually, in the sense of the literal meaning of "wipe off the map". He wants Palestine to be recognized. That means all or part of Israel must be erased from the map and replaced by Palestine. Between you me, I think he prefer it be all. So what?

    At the very least, I think we can agree to disagree gents. This tiny point is a mess of uncertainty. And one uncertain threat is not enough for red alert. Find more, or drop it. The ME is a hotbed of hostility and aggresive statements. If you cant find more clear ones, then the unclear ones are not worth all this discussion.

    What we can agree on is that Ahmadinejad has no love for Israel. Yes?

    Now, lets get real. Let us suppose that Iran makes a bomb. They will have to test it. Can they do that in secret? No they cant. If they do a successful test, how many bombs can they make just after, or have in possession that seem viable given the test? Not many. How to deploy those bombs (nukes are heavy)? They are not going to Israel except by airplane, and they will be intercepted. Anyway, after the test, Iran is going to have some huge problems. They will either cave in to demands like North Korea did, or they will get "wiped from the map" in its English meaning. Convential war with Iran is an option even if it was not in North Korea's case. And a couple nukes in Iran's possession is not going to stop that. Those nukes will be located and destroyed before they get used.

    And what good is it to nuke Israel anyway? The Palestinians that Iran supports will not be happy about that.

    If Iran wants nukes its for the same reason everybody else does: leverage and security. And having the U.S. military running around right next door, we cant blame them for wanting leverage and security. I think we agree that the Iranian government is radical, however, and having them armed with nukes would be risky. But enough is being done without an Israeli first strike. The Iranians are watched closely enough and cant deliver anyway. An Israeli first strike would be clear over-reaction and could trigger war.

    But I also mistrust the Israeli side. They are paranoid and dangerous. And also clever. With the U.S. military sitting pretty between Israel and Iran, now might seem like a pristine opportunity for them. And while Iran may have a spotty record, it is still not comparable to Israeli's history of military action.

    Posted in: Israel mulls military option for Iran nukes

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    seansezso

    Acknowledging a sex scandal he had dismissed as “tabloid trash” only last month

    So its true. Its still tabloid trash!

    America has a president that lied about a war and got 4000 of his countrymen dead for his lies. May as well make a report on how much this bloke Edwards farts to put it into perspective.

    Had he been a Repub, we would have had posts numbering in the high 70's by this time.

    Isn't McCain a repub? He has a quite a history mate. Who is dwelling on it?

    Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I told you even Dems lie!

    We all know Dems lie too! But people have a right to lie about what is not your business, as with Edwards. As with Clinton. Those were white lies. Bush and his republican lads told real lies though. Real big lies.

    If its honesty you seek, you just had it. If you dont appreciate it, you wont get any more. If you condemn Mr. Edwards for finally telling the truth about what was never your business, then expect politicians to lie to you more. Even more so if you allow Bush and his lads to get away with their lies, their massive and many lies.

    Mr. Edwards seems to be as honest a politician as can be had.

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