Monday May 28, 2012

shiofuki's past comments

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    shiofuki

    TEPCO names new management: Chico, Harpo, Groucho, Gummo, Zeppo and Edano.

    Posted in: TEPCO names new management

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    shiofuki

    @tmarie

    I don't need to 'win' as you put it. You stay, you're happy, you win. But you're not happy, are you, because you complain.

    As for the rest of it, you seem so unaware of the country about you and so oblivious to the way the people in this country think (I mean, you are really in Japan, aren't you? I really do wonder whether you've ever actually been here.) that there isn't any point in discussion with you beyond Hello Kitty and AKB48. Do you turn your feet in when you walk and say 'kawaii' at everything from carry-around minature dogs with ribbons to fashion accessories shaped like turds? Are you from Iowa, by any chance?

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    @tmarie

    Perspective? Hmm. Protest in Japan needs to be huge to count for anything. I don't expect them to do it for reasons given. Tell you what, when they start up the plants again in Fukui, we'll talk again. Better duck or you'll have egg on your face.

    So stay here. Please do. I sincerely hope the situation improves.

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    Many DO - why do you think there are protests?

    Comparatively, very few do protest in any manner that could be considered protesting, and such people are immediately branded as criminals, gatecrashers and breachers of the peace.

    Why do you think my Japanese friends are outraged about this - along with many others?

    Outraged? Really? Is that what they are? "I'm really outraged about this Fukushima business" "Me too. What shall we do about it?." "Let's do nothing and say nothing as usual." "Great idea! Here, try a piece of cucumber. It's from Iwate, you know..."

    Real protesting would be something like the whole of Fukushima uprooting and moving into Tokyo where they block the streets and cause chaos until they get what they want. If the authorities dared to move against them, Tokyo would end up looking like Tiananmen, something the government would not want.

    You're making vast assumptions about the locals and suggesting they are nothing but mere robots. I make jokes about it but you obviously think they are.

    Oh, come off it! You wouldn't make jokes about it if it weren't true! You even admit you make such jokes, so you've blown your side of that debate already.

    Perhaps I should be asking why you live here if you feel this way.

    Perhaps you should. Are you going to?

    We eat the same food, breath the same air...

    By choice.

    You're actually trying to use culture in all of this? Wow.

    Are you serious? Can't you see that it is partly the cultural obligations that have gotten Japan into this situation in the first place.

    Perhaps only a minority concern but don't they count for something? Perhaps the rest do follow because people aren't outspoken enough. I speak out and you suggest I leave. See the problem with that?

    No, I don't see it. You are a foreigner, a visitor here. It is not up to you, or me, to protest. We don't have the same rights here. In fact, to many Japanese we aren't even welcome here. Your protests are simply not heard. You see things through western eyes still. The Japanese do not protest, not because they aren't outspoken enough (although that trait is drummed out of them in school - deru kugi and all that), it is because they are brought up to obey. Why don't you see that? I'm curious: how long have you lived in Japan to be still so unaware of the way Japanese people think?

    I don't think it is better to just give up and do nothing than try and make last minute efforts.

    Well, yes, that is commendable, but inappropriate.

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    Please - can you explain how someone would "accidentally" RE-label (as per the report which implies stripping off the old label and replacing it with a new one) 358 boxes of produce?

    I can explain it. It's to do with saving face. They got caught red-handed and now they say it was an 'accident' thus admitting partial responsibility. In order to maintain face, kizuna and wa and whatever else, the response is "We understand your plight. Please be more careful next time." and all is well again. Be aware of where you living. This is not your home country with your home country's ways.

    The issue in question here is not about "a few cucumbers" - it is about public trust. If the company concerned here gets nothing more than a slap on the wrist the door is wide open for every other distributor to do exactly the same thing with impunity (as it has been for over a year already).

    Think about it, and about what has been going on for the last year and you'll see that the government doesn't want people to stop distributing food from Tohoku. In fact, they actively encouraged it. Remember the posters at Famima with bentos using Tohoku produce? If they prosecute, it might really make people think and then the government will have to face angry farmers and further crises in the region and elsewhere. This way it all just happens and nobody knows or complains. The fact is, you don't know what you're eating here anymore.

    And if the public can no longer trust the labelling on their food, what do you think that is going to do to the food industry, not just in Fukushima but all over the region, possibly even the country?

    Again, this is Japan. The people were brought up not to question, but to believe, trust and follow no matter what. Who is shouting about it? A bunch of foreigners who don't really matter because they are not Japanese. Only a few Japanese are going against it, and they are being portrayed in a bad light. Most just obey. And as long as the mislabelling is allowed to continue unhindered, people will just carry on obeying, trusting and eating.

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    Great post gyouza!

    The deliberate mislabelling was wrong, but were these cumbers really contaminated? That needs to be established and it's a bit late for that now.

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    That happened at my local supermarket last year with spinach. It cost only hundred yen but when we got home, a sticker fell off saying It was from Fukushima. We ate it and still alive so.... This bebahviour is exactly WHY people know they can get away with it. Why didn't you take it back and ask for an explanation? Why didn't you contact the media? Too mendokusai? It is your health we're talking about, not 100 yen.

    Er, there was a sticker on it showing origin. isn't that what you wanted?

    The way some people go on, you'd think that all foodtuffs in Japan coem from Fukushima! There's plenty more Japan out there that produces things you can eat, you know!

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    @tmarie

    The "why don't you leave" comment is old and tired.

    As are the incessant, impotent whines and moans about a country's system that you will never change or be able to do anything about. Haven't you cottoned on to the way they think here yet?

    No one should have to leave because they are concerned about their food safety.

    The situation is a fact that you cannot change through any wishful thinking, so you either have to accept that or make a choice that leads you, and your family, elsewhere. Many people have left. If you want to stay then do so, suck it up and shut up!

    Would you suggest a Japanese person leave if they make the same comments?

    But they don't, and that's the problem. If they did, radiation wouldn't be spreading in the way that it is. Having said that, some Japanese have left. Look at the guy who runs Fukushima Diary. He left.

    Remember we are visitors here and are treated as such. We don't belong and never will. It's sad that the Japanese culture has emburdened its citizens with attitudes of total acceptance and apathy but that is their culture and this is their country. It isn't ours. The few who make the comments you refer to have broken the programming, and left.

    The government has rules that the public are supposed to follow. They were not followed in this case and it is a cause of concern.

    Yes, I agree, this is sad, and it is a cause for concern, but only a minority is concerned. The rest just follow. If you can't follow, like the rest of the sheep, you have no business being in contemporary Japan. Maybe in the future that will change, but they've left it all a little late, wouldn't you say?

    If anything, why do people like YOU, who are so apathetic to the pubic that live in Japan stay?

    Pubic???!!! What have nether regions got to do with any of this?

    As for being apathetic, there comes a time when you know that shouting about things here does nothing. You can shout and shriek and rant all you like, but you won't change a thing.

    Why do I live in Japan? Because I couldn't face packing and now that I have it's Golden Week and I have to wait until it's over to get a flight home.

    Enjoy your cucumbers!

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    @smithinjapan

    Would you have knowingly served these to your family, just out of curiosity?

    Of course not! I can't stand cucumbers!

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    @tmarie

    TEPCO and the government can sort it out - ie, how much of OUR taxes will go to pay for TEPCO's screw up.

    Here we go again! TEPCO and taxes, la-de-da! It always comes back to that doesn't it? Isn't this off-topic?

    Japan, keep at it. Everyone is mocking you and finally realizes what foreigners have been saying for years - your government is a joke. I would be too if it wasn't my family and my food that I worry about.

    So why do you stay? Seriously. People can see what's going on and where Japan is heading, and you do have the option to be somewhere else unless you've renounced your native citizenship. So I do wonder why people stay.

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    All this looks like a massive over-reaction to me. It's just a couple of lousy cucumbers! And how many are you going to eat anyway? Probably not enough to make any difference. There is no evidence provided that the cumbers were contaminated in any way. They might have been grown right on the border with Niigata for all we know. The main thing here, and the only thing, is: did they taste good?

    Posted in: Fukushima cucumbers relabeled and sold in Tokyo

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    shiofuki

    People, the government wants to restart the reactors. Period. They've tried the suffering approach, i.e. you won't have air conditioners on this summer because we can't afford the power (state schools don't have air conditioning in the classrooms because it's 'character building' (read expensive) and they manage) and people have ganbarued, to the government's annoyance. They've tried the emotionally charged blackmail of kizuna, but that didn't work because finally some Japanese have grown a pair of testicles, and continue to oppose, debate and protest. The message is clear f you want to listen to it - no nukes! So now the government is just doing what it wanted to do all along, and and start up the reactors. It's only a matter of time before they start overtures to getting Fukushima back online. You know it's coming. Having said that, Fukushima was a freak accident that is unlikely to be repeated in our lifetimes, so...

    Posted in: Gov't gives preliminary OK to restart 2 reactors at Oi plant

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    shiofuki

    How dod this photo make it out of the plant in the first place? I thought the order of the day was to cover things up and smile for thr crowd. If there ever was a reason to worry and run, then that picture gives you all you'd ever need. I suppose people are just so used to hearing about one issue after another with Fukushima these days, that the seriousness doesn't really hit home anymore.

    That black rubber tube all teh stuff is in doesn't look very reliable even where it isn't damaged. Is it a temporary covering or was it always like that?

    Posted in: Springing a leak

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    shiofuki

    @almostthat "But, seriously, "asked" them to take a 20% pay cut??? What if they said "No! Shove it where it hurts! Sort out this mess yerselves. we're off!""

    Yeah, you'd think wouldn't you, but this is JAPAN, and they'll say 'Hai. Wakarimashita', no matter what they really feel, roughtly translating as, 'I've bent over backwards to do my best for the company all these years, of course I'm now willing to bend over forwards for you too, as long as you aren't too inconvenienced'

    "Don't employees have mortgages to pay, family to support, mouths to feed?"

    Come, come now...where's your kizuna? Share the pain!

    Posted in: No bonuses for TEPCO employees this year

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    shiofuki

    I want to know how this stuff is just 'leaking' after a whole year of possible measures to stop this. Is it a euphonium for 'deliberate dumping'?

    Posted in: Water containing strontium leaks from Fukushima plant into sea

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    shiofuki

    How long do smelt live? Well, until they are caught for eating I suppose. We are talking about food-fishing here, I believe.

    Posted in: Smelt in Gunma lake four times over new legal radiation limit

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    shiofuki

    They're sexy! Like those ballet shoe things. I'm getting all sorts of ideas!

    Posted in: If the shoe fits

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    shiofuki

    'Manna' wa? Can we have a poster campaign with cute animals drinking sensibly, please?

    The woman was not killed by a beer glass, but by a woman using a beer glass as a weapon.

    Posted in: Woman dies after being hit in face with beer glass in Tokyo bar

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    shiofuki

    Anyone else smelt a rat in all this?

    Posted in: Smelt in Gunma lake four times over new legal radiation limit

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    shiofuki

    a rose by any other name - means we get scr3wed no matter what it is called. i would be for a little higher taxes if those in power would cut their pay and bonuses like the rest of had to - no choice - and we could see our taxes being put to good use rather than squandered.

    So why do you stay? Seriously. Why do people who can see where Japan is going, and the problems that will cause in the future, continue to live in Japan and moan and moan and moan? Japan is the last place where a whining foreigner will make anything different.

    Posted in: Noda asks Maehara to reword consumption tax bill to gain consensus

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