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    voiceofokinawa

    One may think the Okinawa issue is a local one involving only a small portion of the nation, a local people, complaining about the American presence.

    I don't think it's a local issue. It's an international issue directly involving Japan and the U.S.

    Okinawa represents Japan itself in a condensed form as far as the U.S. military presence is concerned. Mainlanders may not be able to see the true picture of the bilateral relations and the U.S. military presence because bases are sparsely located in the mainland whereas in Okinawa one can see them wherever he turns his eyes.

    U.S. bases in Okinawa hark back to Japan's defeat in WW II, but so do those in the mainland. And so some posters on this thread claim that the U.S. has every right to maintaining these bases here with impunity.

    The catch is that the U.S. bases are formerly planted here not because Japan was defeated but because Japan and the U.S. agreed to their presence through the Japan-U.S. Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security. Is that a real McCoy?

    We feel that treaty smacks of the post-war occupation despite its formal reasoning of why the bases must be planted here. The treaty is a mere facade to hide the ultimate intentions of the U.S.

    So, in essence, the Okinawa issue is not a local one but genuinely a national and international one. It's time to reconsider the content of the bilateral agreement seriously and get rid of its colonial character.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    Yubaru

    I wandered? OMG whatever......He isn't communist and even if he was it wouldn't matter because a Japanese Communist is no where even close to being the same as what YOU are thinking they are.

    Sure, you wandered. You sneakily avoided to answer my question. I asked if you agreed with True Okinawa, who called Onaga a communist sympathizer. If you didn't agree, then you should criticize TO, rather than defend him.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    voiceofokinawa

    Yubaru:

    First, the correction of a figure. "A ten thousand vote differential" should be "one-hundred thousand vote differential."

    Now I would like to ask you to read my posting addressed to True Okinawa once again. Instead of commenting on its main point (that is, can you call Onaga a communist sympathizer?), you wandered into a discussion of how the word "landslide" should be interpreted, presenting the number of votes each candidate garnered.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    Yubaru

    You are always splitting hairs. Large or small is a modifier telling how one looks at the world. In other words, adjectives are used subjectively on the basis of relativity.

    A ten thousand vote differential was large like a landslide as far as I saw, especially in view of the fact that Nakaima was backed by the juggernaut LDP with a large amount of campaign funds larvishly injected into his camp. Cabinet ministers and LDP bigwigs came to Okinawa in a horde to bolster the Nakaima camp. So, initially, the race appeared to me neck and neck.

    The ten-thousand vote differential Onaga garnered was the third largest in the past 12 gubernatorial elections.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    True Okinawa:

    A "communist sympathizer" is, according to one definition run on the Internet, is "someone who agrees with positions held by communists. It's heard most often as an insult used by conservatives for anyone who doesn't agree with them."

    Takeshi Onaga, an Okinawa Governor elect, won the election by a landslide on the platform that he would oppose the Japan-U.S. agreement on Futenma-to-Henoko relocation and do his best to scrap the plan. His platform was supported by all Okinawa, progressive or conservative, crossing traditional party lines. One of the Onaga supporting parties, among others, was the Okinawa chapter of the Japan Communist Party.

    Can one call Onaga a communist sympathizer, a pejorative term unreasonably used during the Cold War to discredit a person's stand? I don't think so.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    lincolnman:

    You quote me from my Nov. 19, 2014 - 11:36PM JST posting three times. The fourth quote is not from my posting; it's from Noliving (Nov. 20, 2014 - 06:59AM JST).

    You haven't answered my questions posed in my posting concretely, particularly the question on the relocation of Naha Military Port Facility.

    As for the quote from Noliving, what does that have to do with the Futenma issue? Do you think the Henoko new base and a few thousand marines deployed there will deal with maintaining the security of those sea lanes? How? I wonder.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    lincolnman (Nov. 19, 2014 - 10:33AM JST):

    Our good friend lincolnman says that "90% of all US property south of Kadena is returned to the local government" but former U.S. Ambassador to Japan John Roos offered a different figure while he was in office: 70%. Why this difference?

    He (lincolnman) also speaks of "all U.S. property" as if U.S. bases in Okinawa were the God-given property of the U.S. This betrays his unfounded belief that Okinawa is nothing but a U.S. territory, a colony, that is. Anyone who whines about this is an anti-American visionary detached from the divine reality, according to him.

    The total area of U.S. bases in Okinawa is 23,293 ha. The "U.S. property" south of Kadena Air Base is 1,466 ha, so that percentage-wise it is 6.3% of the total U.S. base area in Okinawa if the to-be-returned land is 90% or 5% if it is 70%. Note, however, that the lands promised to be returned are all strictly string-attached except a few cases.

    Futenma would be returned only if its replacement were built in Henoko, Nago City. Naha Military Port Facility would be returned only if its replacement were built on the Urasoe coast adjacent to Camp Kinser, a sprawling logistics hub, which is, strangely enough, on the total return list.

    Does lincolnman want to say Okinawa must be grateful to the U.S. for its generosity in giving back so much of the U.S. property?

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    voiceofokinawa

    The map above shows how U.S. forces occupy Okinawa on land and in waters, making it look like a worm-eaten leaf. But the map misses vast military training areas the U.S. Air Force is provided for exclusive use. According to Okinawa Prefecture statistics, the U.S. military maintains 20 air spaces in and around Okinawa Island, some of which extend far into international waters.

    From the sky Okinawa Island may look like small patches of land seen through the openings of vast U.S. military clouds. In other words, Okinawa is in the U.S. military basesand and not vice versa, as photographer Shomei Tomatsu correctly observed once. What else can one call this disgusting situation except military occupation?

    The focal point at issue in the gubernatorial election was over the construction of a new base for USMCAS Futenma at Henoko, Nago City, a case of stinky barter dealings between Tokyo and Washington from our standpoint. The dealings were rejected overwhelmingly by Onaga's landslide victory. End the egregious occupation or at least reduce Okinawa's burden of shouldering so many U.S. bases (74% of U.S. bases in Japan concentrate in Okinawa). That was the judgement passed by Okinawa's wise voters on Sunday.

    Posted in: Okinawa vote a blow to Japan-U.S. ties, say analysts

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    bass4funk:

    You are like a Godfather telling innocent turf residents, "Our control over the area is not so bad a situation when you think about it in a bigger picture where you have to pay turf fees to other crime syndicates.

    Does that morally justify the Godfather's control over the area?

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    voiceofokinawa

    Here's the poster brandishing a hooligan's logic again. He threatens us like a street mobster by saying that Futenma will remain where it is forever because of yesterday's election results. He forgets how democracy works.

    He seems to believe that since the U.S. won WW II it has every right to maintain bases here for whatever purposes that suit it. A poster on another thread wrote in the same vein that the U.S. has the right to plant bases here "due to the victory" of the war. If this is an ultra conservative American's way of thinking, then the Treaty of Mutual Corporation and Security between Japan and the United States of America is a mere facade to conceal Washington's real intentions.

    As long as mainstream Japanese politicians and bureaucrats keep believing it, Japan would remain a U.S. vassal forever and Okinawa the big suzerain's junior colony ever more indefinitely.

    Posted in: U.S. base relocation opponent elected Okinawan governor

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    bass4funk (Nov. 16, 2014 - 10:23PM JST):

    Of course you didn't explicitly say the U.S. occupation of Okinawa was better than the Chinese or North Korean. But your logic boils down to this conclusion whether you actually said it or not.

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    bass4funk (Nov. 16, 2014 - 04:48PM JST):

    *Better us then the Chinese or the NK. * LOL. On what basis can you say so, -- that the U.S. occupation of Okinawa is better than the Chinese or North Korean? At any rate, you have admitted that Okinawa is being occupied by the U.S., thus its military colony.

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    voiceofokinawa

    Upon these shaky grounds, you keep so many bases occupying so much land mass, sea and air spaces as if Okinawa exists in U.S. bases and not vice versa?

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    bass4funk (Nov. 16, 2014 - 12:52PM JST):

    Sure enough, you were just telling the truth, but what is that truth about? Isn't it about the U.S. greediness to keep the bases here forever regardless of whether there is a "China or North Korea threat"?

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    voiceofokinawa

    What bass4funk wants to say in his 09:53AM JST posting is that nothing's going to change in whatever results this gubernatorial election may end or how many elections may be held. U.S. bases will remain here forever, he wants to say. His reasons for saying so is that China and NK can't be trusted.

    The issue being contended in this election is of course the Futenma relocation, not the U.S. bases ingeneral If bass4funk keeps insisting that no single base can be removed from Okinawa and therefore that Futenma's replacement must be built within Okinawa, he would be a troglodyte, saying things only out of greedy motivations. His China and NK threats are mere justification for camouflaging the real intentions of his and his cronies'.

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    In an election flier distributed by the Organization to Seek Earlier Realization of "Okinawa 21st Century Vision," a Nakaima support group, raw recruit Okinawa entrepreneur Shigenobu Asato mentions: that Japan is currently in great financial difficulties with about $9 trillion in debt and therefore that it was a great feat for Governor Hirokazu Nakaima to have been able to coax the promise of a lump-sum subsidy of more than $1.7 billion per annum out of the central government.

    Needless to say, this money was a kind of kickback to induce Nakaima to sanction the infamous Futenma-to-Henoko relocation plan.

    As Asato says, the nation is currently under strained financial conditions. And yet why does the government press ahead with the relocation plan with so much tax money to be squandered with such impunity? It is estimated that costs for the relocation will amount to over $3 billion. In addition, Japanese taxpayers are obliged to shoulder a total $2.8 billion for U.S. marines to be relocating to Guam as well as for the refurbishment of bases in northern Mariana Islands.

    The rosy picture painted in the 21st Century Okinawa Vision, with the Henoko relocation plan taken for granted and the bulk of bases remaining intact, or rather functionally strengthened, can be said to be nothing but an illusion born of a parasitic way of thinking.

    Posted in: Okinawans vote for governor with Futenma base as focal point

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    turbotsat (Aug. 28, 2014 - 06:40AM JST)

    Your analogy that bases and highways are the same is completely off the mark.

    U.S. bases in Okinawa were built by the invading U.S. army for the sole purpose of contributing, first, to their military strategy to invade and occupy mainland Japan and, second, to make Okinawa a beachhead or fortress to establish hegemony in Asia, as Commodore Matthew Perry had already entertained in the 19th century.

    Thus, the U.S. bases in Okinawa strongly smack of pre-World War II imperialism and colonialism however hard Washington may try to whitewash it. The reality of Okinawa always betrays Washinton's real intention.

    Posted in: Onodera tries once again to get Saga support for Osprey deployment

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    voiceofokinawa

    It's so heartbreaking to see through fence wire traditional family tombs standing here and there inside the base. U.S. service members commuting from outside the base through the main gate may not notice their existence. Come to the PALS on the southwestern side of the runway and you will be able to see them for yourself.

    When families need to visit the tombs to pay respect to the deceased or their ancestors on such occasions as obon, they must be issued with special passes for entering the base. U.S. military-issued passes to go to one's family tomb? What a world!

    Posted in: Onodera tries once again to get Saga support for Osprey deployment

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    voiceofokinawa

    turbotsat:

    Thanks for providing two nice aerial photos now and then. Here's my comment:

    There are more than 3 thousand so-called "military-land owners" for Futenma Air Station at present. The base was constructed, while area residents were forcefully herded into camps during and after the Battle of Okinawa, on the land the U.S. army encroached upon with impunity.

    There were a dozen villages with a joint population of more than 12 thousand before the war, of which 6 villages (Ginowan, Kamiyama, Aragusuku, Nakahara, Maehara and Aragusuku) were completely swallowed up into the base with a 2,400-meter runway (later extended to 2,700 meters) . Other villages were only partially affected.

    The U.S. action in acquiring the land was in clear violation of Article 46 of the Convention Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, which states: "Family honour and rights, the lives of persons, and private property, as well as religious convictions and practice, must be respected. Private property cannot be confiscated."

    Posted in: Onodera tries once again to get Saga support for Osprey deployment

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    voiceofokinawa

    There have been two separate issues involving plans to deploy Ospreys to Saga. First, in response to Okinawa Governor Hirokazu Nakaima's condition, for his approval of the Henoko relocation plan, that 12 or all of the 24 Ospreys now deployed at Futenma be moved out of Okinawa until the new base at Henoko is completed. This plan was scrapped, however, in the face of a strong opposition from the Saga authorities and residents.

    The central government's second plan has nothing to do with the first plan. The government has recently hit a deal with Washington to buy 17 Ospreys for the JSDF to the tune of $1.7 billion (about $98 million per aircraft). Apparently, it must have been seeking a candidate site for the deployment of these 17 Ospreys and Saga Airport was singled out as the best site for various reasons, financial and strategic.

    The coercive selling of the Ospreys to Japan by the U.S. is assumed to have three reasons: first, to recover R & D costs even if a little; second, to calm down the fear the Japanese people have about Ospreys; third, to let the Osprey-deployed JSDF deal with China when conflicts occur so that Futenma's 36th Marine Air Group can stay away from such conflicts A big deal! indeed.

    Note that China is developing a high-speed helicopter with the speed and payload twice as much as the Osprey (China Daily, September 8, 2013). There is no doubt, then, that these high-priced U.S.-made aircraft will become white elephants sooner or later.

    If Saga Prefecture rejects the central government's second plan, would these Ospreys be deployed to Okinawa? Not completely out of the question.

    Posted in: Onodera tries once again to get Saga support for Osprey deployment

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