voiceofokinawa's past comments

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    voiceofokinawa

    CORRECTION:

    The Koza Riot took place on December 20, 1970, not 1960.

    It was the biggest anti-American riot in Okinawa's post-war history, in which 88 people were injured and 82 yellow-plated cars (possessed by U.S. service members and their dependents) were burned Facilities on the base, including 3 halls of an elementary school were also set fire. A policeman was burned to death.

    Posted in: Abe, Okinawan governor clash over Futenma base

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    voiceofokinawa

    If I misunderstood you, here's my apology. But could you explain what you mean by "mitigation techniques"?

    Posted in: Mass beaching fuels fears of imminent quake

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    voiceofokinawa

    Zenpun's list of accidents and incidents involving the U.S. military and U.S. service members is only a tip of an iceberg. In pre-reversion occupation days, it often happened that U.S. service members who caused fatalities in traffic accidents on civilian roads were sentenced innocent and pardoned free by court martial. The famous Koza Riot in 1960 was brought about by such an unjust verdict.

    This colony-like state of affairs in Okinawa didn't change at all even after Okinawa's reversion to Japan. The military bases remained unchanged and crimes by U.S. service members kept on occurring. Anti-base sentiments among civilian populations were always simmering as if to break into an explosion.

    Under such circumstances there occurred the 1995 school girl rape incident. It was the last straw that inflamed anti-base and anti-American sentiments like hell.

    I thought it was strange but NHK suddenly began to broadcast programs showing how dangerous U.S. MCAS Futenma was, sitting in the middle of a densely populated residential area. Asked which base Okinawa wanted to be returned most, then governor Masahide Ota replied in no time that it was Futenma. The rape incident was soon to be forgotten.

    On April 12, 1996, then Prime Minister Ryusaburo Hashimoto and U.S. Ambassador Walter Mondale held a joint news conference and announced that Futenma would be returned in seven to eight years. It was ballyhooed that the return of Futenma was to alleviate the suffering and the burden Okinawa bore.

    But note that the Marines had a blueprint designed already to build a new base in the Henoko coastal waters in the late 1960's -- amazingly like the relocation plan today. There's no doubt that the ruckus over Futenma today was caused by insincerity on the part of Washington polcymakers.

    Posted in: Abe, Okinawan governor clash over Futenma base

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    voiceofokinawa

    Camp Schwab was opened in November 1956, and not in 1945, as Yubaru mistakenly says. In 1957, another Marine base, the Northern Training Area, the biggest Marine facility in Okinawa with the area of 78 ha, was also opened.

    The Marine contingents that operate them moved from mainland Japan, one from Gifu Prefecture and another from Yamanashi Prefecture. These Marine contingents had to close their bases in mainland Japan and move to Okinawa because violent anti-base campaigns stormed there.

    So you know why PM Abe repeated the mantra that the Henoko relocation plan is the best and the only solution for the Futenma issue to be solved. No doubt, he's afraid of having to provide the Marines with a replacement in mainland Japan.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle:

    You say, "Just be sure proper mitigation techniques are used." Despite yourself, you intimate beachings in recent years were caused by sonar, because you say that if "mitigation techniques" were used, active sonar would be no problem..

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    voiceofokinawa

    **Correction:

    Then, why does the government in Tokyo stick to the Henoko option like a fool? The answer is they are afraid of having to find a relocation site in mainland Japan, which I believe is the last thing they will do. Note that those Marines were originally stationed in mainland Japan but had to move to Okinawa in the **1950's **due to storming anti-base campaigns there. **

    Posted in: Abe, Okinawan governor to meet for first time in Tokyo

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    voiceofokinawa

    Correction:

    Then, why does the government in Tokyo stick to the Henoko option like a fool? The answer is they are afraid of having to find a relocation site in mainland Japan, which I believe is the last thing they will do. Note that those Marines were originally stationed in mainland Japan but had to move to Okinawa in the 1950's due to storming anti-base campaigns there.

    Posted in: Breaking the ice

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    voiceofokinawa

    Suga has kept telling us that the Henoko relocation plan is the only option for the Futenma issue to be solved、for two reasons: (1) the relocation will eliminate the danger the air base poses to the densely populated residential area where the base sits; (2) the deterrence is maintained by the relocation within Okinawa.

    Now, he says "abandoning the plan would leave the base in Futenma permanently." This is nothing but intimidation to press ahead with the current plan. Has he considered that if the new base were to be built in Henoko, it and other bases that occupy 18 percent of the land mass of Okinawa Island would remain here permanently? Can he say that'll reduce the burden of Okinawa?

    Deterrence has nothing to do with the Marines stationed in Okinawa. There's a consensus among pundits, like Joseph Nye, Micahel Green and Kurt Campbell, that Marine contingents in Okinawa had better be moved to Guam and make it a military center piece for them.

    Richard Armitage, in an interview with Jiji Press, said that, if Tokyo had an alternative plan to Henoko, Washington would listen to it (Ryukyu Shimpo: April 16). The claim by Tokyo that Henoko is the only option thus collapses itself from the ground up.

    Then, why does the government in Tokyo stick to the Henoko option like a fool? The answer is they are afraid of having to find a relocation site in mainland Japan, which I believe is the last thing they will do. Note that those Marines were originally stationed in mainland Japan but had to move to Okinawa in the 1960's due to strong anti-base campaigns there.

    Posted in: Abe, Okinawan governor to meet for first time in Tokyo

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    voiceofokinawa

    Comment in conjunction with "Abe, Okinawan governor to meet for first time in Tokyo":

    Suga has kept telling us that the Henoko relocation plan is the only option for the Futenma issue to be solved、for two reasons: (1) the relocation will eliminate the danger the air base poses to the densely populated residential area where the base sits; (2) the deterrence is maintained by the relocation within Okinawa.

    Now, he says "abandoning the plan would leave the base in Futenma permanently." This is nothing but intimidation to press ahead with the current plan. Has he considered that if the new base were to be built in Henoko, it and other bases that occupy 18 percent of the land mass of Okinawa Island would remain here permanently? Can he say that'll reduce the burden of Okinawa?

    Deterrence has nothing to do with the Marines stationed in Okinawa. There's a consensus among pundits, like Joseph Nye, Micahel Green and Kurt Campbell, that Marine contingents in Okinawa had better be moved to Guam and make it a military center piece for them.

    Richard Armitage, in an interview with Jiji Press, said that, if Tokyo had an alternative plan to Henoko, Washington would listen to it (Ryukyu Shimpo: April 16). The claim by Tokyo that Henoko is the only option thus collapses itself from the ground up.

    Then, why does the government in Tokyo stick to the Henoko option like a fool? The answer is they are afraid of having to find a relocation site in mainland Japan, which I believe is the last thing they will do. Note that those Marines were originally stationed in mainland Japan but had to move to Okinawa in the 1960's due to strong anti-base campaigns there.

    Posted in: Breaking the ice

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle,

    Yeah, let's see what the researchers will find. But since sonar seems the most probable culprit among other causes, don't you think naval exercises using active sonar must be stopped universally until the real cause is determined?

    Posted in: Mass beaching fuels fears of imminent quake

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle,

    You are right in saying that I haven't presented hard evidence showing a correlation between the recent beaching of more than 150 whales on an Ibaraki beach and active sonar ranging.

    But, then, do you say the culprit was an imminent earthquake, parasites or killer whale chasing? If those possibilities are eliminated from the table of culprits, then what remains is nothing but active sonar. Active sonar is determined to be causing most of reacent beachings all over the world.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle,

    You still keep saying "there's tons of documented reports throughout history of mass beachings." Unless you can present the sources that document such reports, what you are saying is nothing but an empty argument -- shenanigans, that is.

    I'm not making claims about this mass stranding of dolphins based on nothing. True, I gathered a lot of information from the Internet. But the information was collected from the established media blogs like The Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The Washington Post, and Science. I don't think writers in these media are "clueless Internet junkie(s)" as Fadamore (Apr. 17, 2015 - 05:11AM JST) may dub them.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Fadamore:

    You are asking me to explain a phenomenon which pbobably nobody can: Why dolphins come closer to something that may hurt them. Well, my assumption is that it's their inborn curiosity that drives them into such a behavior. They keep swimming into a danger zone without knowing it, and are trapped and hurt.

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    voiceofokinawa

    You say the Sea of Japan is famous for dolphins, especially around Noto, adding it's extremely unlikely for them not to be near naval exercises. You also say mass beachings of whales have been recorded for hundreds and hundreds of years.

    I could take your words for it but don't be ambiguous. How frequently have such incidents (MASS beachings) occurred in the past hundreds and hundreds of years in comparison with recent ones? Be specific and show where you picked up your data.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle,

    You say there were no cases of beaching observed in Korea, Kyushu and Honshu, and so you want to say that there's no connection between active sonar ranging and whale stranding. But suppose there was no pod of whales or dolphins in the area or in the vicinity where naval exercises were conducted?

    You also ask me to explain why there were "many, many beaching events recorded prior to the develpment of sonar." OK, but could you show me how many or how often such events occurred prior to the invention of sonar?

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle (Apr. 16, 2015 - 10:33AM JST):

    Of course, you didn't say "it was a sham." But you said: "The internet seethes with a lot of things. Go look at the chemtrail idiots for a prime example." Doesn't it indicate that you think Internet discussions are shams that are propagated by idiots like "chemtrail" believers?

    If there's a close correlation between active sonar ranging and whale stranding, then it's natural that you suspect there was active sonar ranging, either intentionally or accidentally, if whale stranding ever occurred.

    You insist that I provide evidence to show there were any military exercises that were conducted in the Ibaraki coastal waters on April 10. As you say, there must have been none. But note that the South Korea-U.S. joint drills "Foal Eagle" were going on the Korean Peninsular and in the Sea of Japan. Were JMSD ships watching them idly on the Pacific side? Weren't they activated somehow?

    It's my belief that almost all cases of whale beaching today are caused by naval activities. There may be other reasons, such as given by "earth quake" theory or "follow me" theory, but their probability is negligible and ignorable in my thinking.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pendabelle,

    So you think news about frequent stranding of whales is no different from the "chemtrail" fuss?
    The following are some of a myriad of articles I picked up from the Internet. Do you think the well-established news media such as Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, and The Washington Post are reporting shams?

    "Royal Navy Testing Sonar Blamed For Mass Whale Deaths" By Torcuil Crichton The Sunday Herald.com: 11-12-2 "Obama’s Chance to Save the Whales." Keep Navy sonar exercises out of the world’s largest ocean reserve. By Joshua Horwitz. Science: July 1 2014 7:02 AM "Sonar Banned in U.S. Navy Exercise to Protect Hawaii Whales." National Geographic News: Thursday, October 28, 2010 "Judge curbs Navy sonar." Los Angeles Times:: August 7, 2007 "Whales at risk in sonar sea exercises" By Mark Townsend. The Guardian: Sunday 8 August 2004 "Does Military Sonar Kill Marine Wildlife?" The frequency used in military testing could be harmful to some animals Scientific American: June 10, 2009 "New Navy study says use of sonar, explosives may hurt more marine mammals than once thought." The Washington Post: May 10, 2012

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    voiceofokinawa

    The Japanese media only report that the mass beaching on April 10 of more than 150 melon-headed whales on a Ibaraki beach is fueling fears of an imminent earthquake possibly to occur in the area. There are scientists who are studying a correlation between earthquakes and abnormal animal behavior that are often observed ahead of big temblors.

    There are also scientists who speculate that the mass stranding of cetaceans may be caused by parasites that affect their orientation organs in the brain.

    But the Internet is seething with reports pointing to another possibility: that the culprit is not an imminent earthquake, parasites or maladies of any kind, but Navies' high-intensity sonar ranging exercises.

    I suggest posters here to click open a computer search engine by entering "whale stranding in the world." They will be surprised to find how frequently and widely such stranding has occurred the world over in recent years. If there's a strong, regular correlation between the increase of whale stranding and high-intensity sonar ranging exercises by Navies, then the culprit is determined right then and there.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Does the U.S. Navy forewarn there'll be sonar exercises in a certain sea area at a certain time? Why are you so sure to say that there were no sonar exercises at the time of (or prior to) the beaching of those poor whales? Were you involved in the actual naval maneuvering?

    As for the Florida beaching case, isn't it true that the U.S. Navy is banned from using a certain range of electronic frequency? Aren't they free to exercise with ranges outside of it?

    Posted in: Mass beaching fuels fears of imminent quake

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    voiceofokinawa

    Pandabelle,

    OK. The starting point of our current discussion was my suggestion that if someone raises suspicion on an issue, not haphazardly but reasonably enough, he must not be ignored. My suspicion, as well as many environmentalists', is that active sonar may be causing the frequent stranding of dolphins and whales.

    There's no definite evidence as yet to substantiate this claim, but neither is there to disprove it. So my stand is: Stop sonar exercises, if there is the possibility that such human activities may be inadvertently mass-killing cetaceans, until the real culprit is clearly identified..

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