voiceofokinawa's past comments

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    voiceofokinawa

    BOOK SNIFFER,

    Japan invaded Asian countries, justifying its action by saying it would liberate them from Western powers' colonization. I'm not saying Japan's wartime action can be justified at all. It was a lucky hit, though, that those Asian countries were indeed liberated and became independent after WW II.

    What I want to say is that Pearl Harbor can't be used as a justification for dropping the atomic bombs on these two cities saying, as did Truman, that they were military targets.

    Posted in: Abe has no plans to visit Pearl Harbor; Obama offers condolences over Okinawan woman's murder

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    voiceofokinawa

    wtfjapan May. 27, 2016 - 12:59AM JST :

    I realized after I had posted the piece above that I should have written "Japan started **the Pacific War **by attacking Pearl Harbor by surprise" instead of simply saying "...started the war." The war started in 1937 is called "Nicchu Senso" (Second Sino-Japanese War) in Japan. The First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895) is called "Nisshin Senso". So what you call "the pacific war" is war that between Japan and China.

    You suggest the U.S. entered the war to prevent Imperial Japan from colonization and domination of Asia. You are right, but isn't it true that the most of Asian countries were already colonized and dominated by Western powers? Imperial Japan justified its invasion of the colonies of the Western powers, saying it would exonerate them from Western colonization.

    Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the end results of Imperial Japan's adoration and emulation of Western colonialism since the Meiji Restoration.

    Posted in: Abe has no plans to visit Pearl Harbor; Obama offers condolences over Okinawan woman's murder

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    voiceofokinawa

    wtfjapan (May. 26, 2016 - 07:48PM JST):

    There's no denying that Japan started the war by attacking Pearl Harbor by surprise.

    But isn't it true that President Franklin Roosevelt wanted to enter the war and help Great Britain fighting against Japan desperately but he was unable to do so because of the isolationist policy of past governments to which U.S. citizens were accustomed for long.

    So it's a convincing theory that Roosevelt knew Imperial Japanese Army's combined forces were coming to attack Pearl Harbor and let it happen intentionally, thus inflaming the naive nation's animosity toward Japan like hell and united the people as one to enter and fight the war.

    The film footage of him gloating over it with his two long legs thrown on the table after he gave the nationwide radio speech suggests there's some truth in such a theory.

    Posted in: Abe has no plans to visit Pearl Harbor; Obama offers condolences over Okinawan woman's murder

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    voiceofokinawa

    let me repost what I posted above in case some posters may have missed it.

    It seems characteristic of human nature that the victim tends to take the damage he received to be manifold more than what he actually received and that the assailant tends to think the damage he inflicted on the victim is far less than what he actually did. If it is true, then it's working nicely to explain conflicting views posted on this thread regarding Pearl Harbor Surprise Attack and Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings.

    The Pearl Harbor Attack was an inhumane, unforgivable military action without a doubt but could its sins and atrocity be comparable to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings in which 140,000 people, mostly civilians, were killed instantly or in a few days after in Hiroshima alone? The reporter, who asked Prime Minster Shinzo Abe if he would reciprocate for President Barack Obama's historic visit to Hiroshima, apparently thinks Pearl Harbor weighs much the same as Hiroshima and Nagasaki put together.

    Posted in: Abe has no plans to visit Pearl Harbor; Obama offers condolences over Okinawan woman's murder

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    voiceofokinawa

    It seems human nature that the victim tends to take the damage he received to be manifold more than what he actually received while the assailant tends to think it to be far less than what he actually inflicted upon the victim. If it is true, then it's working nicely to explain conflicting views posted on this thread regarding Pearl Harbor Surprise Attack and Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings.

    The Pearl Harbor Attack was an inhumane, abominable military action without a doubt but could it be comparable to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings in which 140,000 people, mostly civilians, were killed instantly in Hiroshima alone? The reporter, who asked Prime Minster Shinzo Abe if he would reciprocate for President Barack Obama's historic visit to Hiroshima, apparently thinks Pearl Harbor weighs much the same as Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings.

    Posted in: Abe has no plans to visit Pearl Harbor; Obama offers condolences over Okinawan woman's murder

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    voiceofokinawa

    Mr. Noidall (May. 24, 2016 - 09:14AM JST):

    I don't understand why you say "the a-bombs are a fabrication." You deny the cold fact despite all this evidence and documentation? Iran's former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad once said the Holocaust haddn't happened. Do you agree with him?

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga was right in saying when Onaga asked the Prime Minister to arrange his meeting with Obama:

    “We think that issues related to security and diplomacy should be discussed between the central governments of countries involved.”

    What is missing from the above article is that Onaga has also said that, under the current security treaty and the Japan-U.S. Status of Forces Agreement, Japan's sovereignty is a "myth," reminding us of a remark by the U.S. military’s high commissioner in Okinawa in 1963 that Okinawa's autonomy was a "myth." Onaga's remark was a spot-on because in every respect today's Japan is not an independent sovereignty but a sycophantic vassal of the great U.S.A

    Naturally, the Abe government cannot take an initiative to put the issues Onaga wished put on a negotiating table with Obama So all Suga said was security-related issues "should be discussed" between relevant central governments. The catch is that of the two governments one is a sycophantic vassal of the other, functioning only as an organ of communication to convey to the people of Okinawa the dictates the other side makes.

    Posted in: Okinawa governor requests meeting with Obama

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    voiceofokinawa

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    U.S. President Barack Obama said on Sunday his visit to Hiroshima, the first city to suffer an atomic bombing, would emphasize friendly ties between former enemies, and reiterated he would not apologize for the devastating attack.

    His political advisors must have instructed him not to apologize while in Hiroshima but instead emphasize "friendly ties between former enemies." But the catch is that if he emphasizes "friendly ties" too much, that will hurt Okinawa tremendously because the more the two countries become friendly through a military alliance, the more suffering and burden Okinawa has to bear. The former enemies cannot be genuine friends as long as Okinawa is offered to the U.S. as a permanent sacrifice. A real friendship cannot be engendered out of such a lop-sided relation.

    Posted in: Obama says Hiroshima visit will emphasise current U.S. ties with Japan

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    voiceofokinawa

    utorsa,

    Thank you for referring to the two websites, especially,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d42dMSAltnQ

    The documentaries speak the truth by themselves and make the exchange of views as on this thread pale and futile.

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    Bill Adams,

    I have always thought it absurd when someone apologies for something they didn't

    Sounds reasonable, but is it really? Governments may change but the nation may remain the same. Can a person be exonerated from a homicide he committed in the past because he has changed?

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    Probably, one has to distinguish problems on a state level from those on a personal level. On a personal level, it's quite natural for victims of atomic bombings to demand an apology from the U.S. side just like it's natural for victims in relevant nations of atrocities committed by the Imperial Japanese Army during the war.

    One has also to distinguish between ordinary bombs and weapons of mass destruction like atomic bombs when he discusses the issue. Even ordinary bombs must be condemned if they are used just to kill people indiscriminately.

    But it's a quite different story if politicians like Shizuka Kamei and Shintaro Ishihara come forward and say the U.S. must apologize to Japan for what it did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    Just for your information:

    The picture above is misleading. I first thought the men in the picture represented A-bomb survivors. But they are not hibakushas.

    Shizuka Kamei, a former lawmaker, is a native of Hiroshima Prefecture all right but he was not born in Hiroshima City but in Shobara City in the northeastern part of the prefecture. The other unnamed man in the picture must be Shintaro Ishihara, a retired right-wing novelist-turned-politician and a close associate of Kamei's.

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    As expected, some posters here bring up Pearl Harbor, Nanjing massacre, comfort women, and other atrocities the Imperial Japanese Army committed during the war. In their mind, then, the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were retaliation against Japan.

    They may be right but, if so, the official explanation by the U.S. government that the atomic bombings were necessary to end the war quickly and prevent millions of additional deaths from occurring of both U.S. soldiers and Japanese civilians turns out to be a hindsight justification.

    Posted in: A-bomb survivors want Obama to meet them, apologize in Hiroshima

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    voiceofokinawa

    Donald Trump has thrown a stone to make ripples on the seemingly calm surface of the Japan-U.S. military alliance.

    I don't think Ishiba's proposal to revise the security treaty and the concomitant SOFA has nothing to do with the whirlwind Trump has caused. I've been in a position to scrap or revise it since the U.S. military presence is a mere carry-over of the pre-1951 Occupation.. The Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between Japan and the U.S.A. is a facade to hide and manipulate that reality.

    On the other hand, Michael Green, a former senior director for Asian Affairs at the U.S. National Security Council, reacted to the Trump whirlwind by saying Trump's suggestions would never become U.S. foreign policy even if he won (The Japan Times, May 8) .

    Maybe so, but, if so, then it means that the U.S. keeps bases in Japan not necessarily to defend Japan but largely to defend its own interests and not to let the genie out of the bottle. If so, then why should the Japanese taxpayers shoulder entirely the cost of maintaining those U.S. bases as Trump suggests?

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    voiceofokinawa

    This Trump phenomenon will "throw a stone to make ripples" in the otherwise smooth surface of the Japan-U.S. alliance. It'd certainly reveal the current Japan-U.S. Security Treaty is based on intentional misunderstanding and misconception on the part of both Japanese and American peoples.

    The Trump phenomenon is thus telling it's time to scrap the treaty and remove all these U.S. bases. "Occupation" under the pretense of "defense" cannot go on forever.

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    voiceofokinawa

    Correction:

    The program of sympathy budged started in 1978, so that "the early 1970's" in my post above should be "the late 1970's".

    The initial $32 million has ballooned 49 times today to an amazing $1.56 billion despite the nation's financial difficulty and repeated disasters. No big deal?

    Posted in: U.S. Ospreys win Japanese hearts and minds with quake relief flights

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    voiceofokinawa

    lincolnman,

    And as I have stated more than once, none of the host nation support funding the GOJ provides to US stationing costs goes to “US coffers”. It all remains in Japan and goes to Japanese construction, utilities and transportation companies - not one yen goes to the US.

    The budged the U.S. side calls "host nation support" is called "sympathy budged" in Japan because Tokyo sympathized with Washington for a budgetary crisis it was under in the early 1970's and started paying Japanese base employees' salaries for Washington. The money does not go directly to the U.S. coffers, as you say, but certainly it helps reduce U.S. taxpayers' burden because, by nature, Japanese base employees' salaries, base maintenance costs such as repairs, water and utility must be all borne by the U.S. government.

    So in a situation like this where disaster after disaster hit and afflict Japan, the U.S. must rethink about forcing the sympathy budged or host nation support upon the Japanese, that include disaster-stricken people in Tohoku and now in Kyushu. The budged Japanese taxpayers shoulder amounts to $1.56 billion annually. In addition, Washington is urging Tokyo to construct a new base in Henoko for dilapidated Futenma Air Station, the cost of which is estimated to be well over $10 billion.

    Toyota or Honda U.S.A. cannot demand such costs as maintenance, salaries, utility and water be borne by the U.S. taxpayers, saying the money goes to U.S. employees, construction and utility companies after all.

    Now, according to the April 19 Nikkei Shimbun, 4 Futenma-based Ospreys flew to Iwakuni on April 17. On April 18, 2 of the four moved to SDF Koyubaru Air Base in Mashikimachi, Kumamoto Prefecture, where they were loaded with relief supplies to be transported to Minami Asomura, a cut-off village on the foot of Mt. Aso. (The distance between the SDF air base and Minami Asomura is about 15 km.)

    Meanwhile, the JMSDF Hyuga, a helicopter carrier with a displacement of 13,950 tons, was anchored off Yatsushiro Bay in Kumamoto ready for refueling the relief-operating Ospreys (flying for such short distances?). This clearly shows that the use of Ospreys was politically motivated and meant to demonstrate and confirm mutual cooperation and coordination between USFJ and JSDF.

    Posted in: U.S. Ospreys win Japanese hearts and minds with quake relief flights

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    voiceofokinawa

    lincolnman,

    The Ospreys carried 37 tons of supplies because that was what was requested to be lifted by the Government of Japan (based on needs at the cut-off sites) and could fit within the aircraft - each Osprey carried its max cabin load of two 463L pallets of supplies.

    Thank you for the information. Probably, you are in a position to ask for information from the Marine authorities off hand.

    But a question still remains. If a total 37 tons was the amount the Japanese government requested to be transported to cut-off areas, was it necessary to deploy 4 Ospreys plus 2 C-130's for starters? Couldn't JSDF deal with the problem all by itself? And indeed this was the initial reaction Abe made when he heard about a U.S. offer to help.

    Relief supplies in the amount of 20 tons were delivered on the first day. So the remaining 17 tons was transported by 4 Ospreys for the period of 6 days.

    As I said elsewhere, a most difficult problem awaits when the reconstruction of infrastructure starts in a full swing. The amount of reconstruction money may know no bounds, I’m sure. So it's surprising that despite the quake disasters in Tohoku and Kyushu no one here who proclaim themselves to be philanthropic and humanitarian says anything about host-nation support Japan has to pay to the U.S. coffers (annual $1.56 billion) and expected $15 billion Japanese taxpayers are supposed to pay for the construction of a new base in Henoko, Nago City.

    In my opinion, that relief effort for reconstruction is more humanitarian than merely sending in four Ospreys.

    Posted in: U.S. Ospreys win Japanese hearts and minds with quake relief flights

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    voiceofokinawa

    smithinjapan

    You haven't answered the question I posed. Unless you can explain and clarify the discrepancy I pointed out between the 4 Ospreys’ full loading capacities (560 tons = 20 x 4 x 7) and the actual loading they carried out (37 tons), you cannot blame me by saying I'm simply playing politics. If you insist on saying I'm playing politics, then you must answer the question first and foremost.

    Posted in: U.S. Ospreys win Japanese hearts and minds with quake relief flights

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    voiceofokinawa

    smithinjapan,

    Let me repeat the last paragraph in my post above with the question part deleted. I said:

    “Note an Osprey's maximum loading capacity is 20 tons and yet the four carried a total 37 tons of load in the week-long operations, each carrying 9.25 tons in the average.”

    The figure 9.25 (tons) divided by 7 (days) is 1.32 (tons per diem). In other words, each aircraft transported 1.32 tons of relief supplies, or only one twentieth of their full capacity, to disaster areas each day. What's your explanation of this discrepancy?

    Posted in: U.S. Ospreys win Japanese hearts and minds with quake relief flights

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