Thursday February 16, 2012

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    yabits

    If you know what Cain actually did or what any settlement might actually have been about, or how many women may or may not have been involved

    The more that gets revealed about this, the worse it is looking for Cain

    Isn't that what you are doing?

    Not at all..

    Through her attorney, one of the women described Cain's actions as unwelcome sexual advances by her CEO. What Cain actually did over the past week was to lie and continually change his stories after being given plenty of lead time to get his story straight. Nearly $100k was paid out to the victims of Cain's actions.

    If you know what Cain actually did

    Multiple women have reported inappropriate behavior with the specifics pointing to sexual advances. Whether the "actuality" was oral sex or some other proposition really doesn't matter when gauging his fitness to lead the nation. His total lack of preparedness and forthrightness make him completely unacceptable.

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

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    yabits

    What "advances"? If you know what Cain actually did or what any settlement might actually have been about, why don't you share it with the rest of the class?

    It should be easy for you to imagine. Just pretend a liberal Democrat was in Cain's shoes and acted as Cain has acted since Day One of this. Your answer would be: Whatever Cain did was serious enough to have two women paid off rather than having the incident exposed in a court of law. Yes. That's two separate occasions. At least.

    Any normal person with a conscience would have remembered very, very, well any accusations that others have against them -- especially if they were FALSE accusations. The type of person who either forces himself to forget or "naturally" forgets such a thing is either a liar or a sociopath -- or both. Totally unfit for high public office, Cain may be a natural for Republican Party Chairman.

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

  • -1

    yabits

    During that time, you may want to contact anyone you may need to at NRA to help you get the facts about what allegedly occurred absolutely as straight as possible.

    The problem for Cain -- and he knows it -- is that if he contacted folks at NRA to check the records, he certainly would have learned that there was more than one allegation against him. He wouldn't have been able to assume the "ignorant liar's" stance of saying he was aware of only one.

    "I did not, but I am aware of two allegations that resulted in women having to receive payments for my alleged misconduct, rather than choosing to defend my character twice in a court of law," starts to sound pretty bad.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    Compare the following:

    This whole thing would have been a big nothing if he had just responded "No I have not but there was an allegation of it on my part during my time..."

    With

    He said he was only aware of one allegation.

    There is a profound difference between asserting there was AN (as in: only one) allegation and saying "I am aware of only one." A profound difference, and everyone knows it. Had Cain initial came out and told the "truth" as you put it in your latest post, it would have sounded like this: "No, I have not, but I am aware of one allegation of improper behavior." (Which is exactly how a liar would answer -- with partial truths.)

    Ok, Mr. Cain, tell us about it. Only one? You sure? Oh, you can't remember any others, and so we'll have to check to see just how accurate your memory is about this. What's that? You say that you forced yourself to forget about any of the other potential instances with women who may have been able to make allegations? Well isn't that convenient?

    Tell you what, Mr. Cain. We're going to give you over a week before we run with this story. (During that time, you may want to contact anyone you may need to at NRA to help you get the facts about what allegedly occurred absolutely as straight as possible. And we'll get back to you again on this.) Someone who wanted to show they were being honest and forthright would have taken every advantage of that lead time to come out with something better than, "I was aware of one allegation" -- which, although not a reflection of the actual reality, was far better than what Cain initially said, but is still not honest.

    The rank dishonesty and hypocrisy here is that Cain himself, if he was a decent CEO, would have never accepted the kind of lack of candor he himself displays from an applicant to an executive position in his company. And his defenders prove they are of the same, sorry ilk. When people who act in a fundamentally dishonest way dare to accuse journalism of coming down to their level, it just makes me laugh.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    Although the English term "forced suicide" may not sound appealing, it is appropriate because this case cannot be tried as a homicide or murder.

    What an example of really terrible logic.

    If this tragedy was an accident, as one poster suggested, then none of the victims were "forced suicides." If one or both parents decided to taken their own lives, then the act of killing their children is no more "suicide" than if a man sets fire to a car with his family inside, walks away, and then kills himself by jumping in front of train.

    The case may not be able to be tried in a court of law, but it can certainly be tried in the court of public opinion. Any insistence to an English-speaking group that "forced suicide" is appropriate to describe this situation is highly condescending.

    Posted in: Bodies of 4 children, 2 adults found in burned-out car

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    yabits

    The main point Molenir was making, and I earlier, is that whenever any criticism of President Obama was offered up, it was immediately labeled by supporters on the left as racism.

    Really? Any and all criticism was labeled as racism? I know that is not true. Far from it, actually. And since I know that, I have to wonder why this gross exaggeration of reality? For example, I know John Boehner disagrees with Obama, but I don't recall anywhere reading or hearing that he's racist for doing so.

    I happen to believe that there are many whites in America who don't like the fact that a Democrat is in the White House, and like it even less that he's not white. But there's also a lot of whites who are proud that a person of Barack Obama's background and journey has made it to the White House.

    It was like he was supposed to be 'untouchable' because he was black.

    That is absolutely ridiculous, and it betrays a total lack of understanding of reality.

    Of course you see no hypocrisy there because your precious cause can do no wrong.

    I could never deny that a cause that is grounded in reality is better than one that is not.

    Posted in: Confident Cain plans to cut back campaign events

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    yabits

    "forced suicide"

    I find something very offensive to the victims about that term.

    Posted in: Bodies of 4 children, 2 adults found in burned-out car

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    yabits

    Yabits and most of the liberal ilk hate, just despise the fact that Cain was surging in the polls and thus was threatening the monarchy that is Obama, while I do think that most of these allegations come from what I heard possibly the Perry camp, still does not take away the fact that Dems/Liberals are on the sideline cheering this as a good thing.

    Well, it is rich to witness the conservatives taking each other apart with the dirty tricks and character assassination that the hypocrites claim are the tools of liberals. The really funny part is how so many conservatives appear to be just so dumb as to not see it themselves.

    We're not on the sidelines; we're actually in the stands, munching on peanuts and cotton candy.

    We liberals have listened to right-wingers like Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck spin for years on how superior their positions and their characters are to their opponents. ("Our blacks are better than their blacks," proclaims best-selling author, Ann Coulter.) We're supposed to just sit and watch their 3-ring circus complete with clowns and not laugh or applaud?

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

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    yabits

    Oh but once they are in office then it's okay, I see.

    No. It is not Okay either. But it doesn't rise to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors" necessary for removal from public office. A majority-Republican congress attested that in the impeachment trial of a Democratic president.

    I simply stated that they tend to overlook it when it happens to their own, but point fingers righteously when it's the opposition.

    They certainly didn't overlook it when it came to scuttling Gary Hart as a candidate for president. So you are completely wrong about that. It's the conservatives who are the self-righteous ones. "Moral majority," my a$$.

    Whether she was 'provocative' or not is rather besides the point

    No. You are wrong again. It is most definitely not beside the point. When a woman past the legal age of consent invites a man to examine her underwear and they mutually agree to take things farther, it is NOT sexual harassment. How can conservatives be so absolutely clueless and idiotic about that? Had any of the women given any indication that they welcomed Cain's advances, there would never have been any grounds for payoff OR and incident that Cain himself claimed "he wanted to forget."

    You talk about conservative is the sense of them all being Jerry Falwell, Newt Gingrich loving racists who go to church on Sunday and wouldn't go near them 'homersexuals'.

    The conservatives have a real problem in that there is such a strong undercurrent of exactly that type in their ranks. But, to paraphrase W, they don't consider it a problem, they consider it their base. An honest person who wasn't a "knuckle-dragger" would admit it.

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

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    yabits

    She "was harrassed" back in the 1990s....but she didn't file anything back then? Why now.....I really "want to know" her motives...

    She might have thought he was just a smarmy letch of a Restaurant Association head who wasn't going to get much higher in life, and decided that a confrontation and/or lawsuit wasn't worth the trouble.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    We know you can't stand conservatives, nothing new here

    I can respect principled conservatives, like Jon Huntsman -- a highly popular former governor of one of the most conservative states in the union. It's liars, hypocrites and character assassins I can't stand -- and I can't tell those apart from many of today's modern conservatives and right-wingers.

    but if you think that your president will be a shoe in win next year, you better take another look.

    I think next year's race will be very tight. Which is why the conservatives are working overtime trying to make it as difficult as possible for young and lower-income people to vote.

    Obama is mostly recently with Axelrod and leaving his fellow Dems out in the cold, trying to save his job.

    Obama continually demonstrates he has what it takes to win people back over to his side. An all-too-rare quality.

    I know deep in your soul you can't possibly believe that this President has done his best.

    What I know is that the Republicans never accepted the results of the 2008 election and were on the president from Day One. I believe that President Obama has done his best, faced with some of the most difficult foreign and domestic problems in our nation's history. Problems mainly caused by the decisions and policies of the Republican and Democrat who preceded him. (Yes, Bill Clinton went too far along with the conservative penchant for deregulation.)

    So why should Cain be counted out.

    That's really for the Republicans to decide at this point. They have to find the best candidate they can to face an incumbent president who is a pretty tough campaigner. The anti-immigrant, anti-Hispanic rhetoric and proposals of the right-wing of the party have disaffected that crucial segment of the voting public. Actually, I believe the Republicans have an excellent chance of winning the White House if they could put up Huntsman and then stand behind him.

    but the liberal media is eating this up, because to see a black conservtive, nope, we can't have that now can we?

    Conservatives used to say that about Colin Powell. Until they were confronted with a black conservative who came out in support of Barack Obama.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    The bus that Cain is about to get thrown under has G.O.P. written all over it. (Built in Canada, too. Just like the "Straight-Talk Express!)

    Being one of the conservatives' "better blacks" just didn't cut it for him. (Thank you, Ann Coulter.)

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    Senator Harry Reid begs to differ ! -- Barack Obama is well suited to be president because,well, he is a "light-skinned" African American "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

    Ah, Reid is saying that Obama could pick up some conservative votes since he appears more like the "good ones" that Coulter refers to.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    So what you seem to be saying is that you don't know what actually happened between Cain and this woman

    What we all know is that there were complaints, and the women were paid money which amounted to a damage settlement in return for their silence.

    But we didn't learn those facts from Herman Cain -- who initially denied even being aware of anything. (I believe he was lying at that moment -- like most CEOs would do.) What I seem to be saying is that is behavior not worthy of a presidential aspirant.

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

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    yabits

    Probably about the same point where disagreement with a sitting President becomes racism.

    Well then, it's the Republicans who will have to stand with that on both counts. The leaks to Politico are believed by Cain to originate with the GOP. I would say he has very good reason to believe that.

    You should stop trying to drag liberals and Democrats into your intra-party race-baiting and politics of personal destruction.

    Posted in: Confident Cain plans to cut back campaign events

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    yabits

    We aren't talking anything really than someones elses perception as to what constituted bad or unwanted behavior on his part while at the NRA.

    Ya just don't get it, do you?

    We're talking about a lot more here: Mainly Cain's twisting and turning and his overall inability to properly communicate and otherwise handle this situation. Every step of the way, he has looked ever more creepy and untrustworthy.

    the high tech lynching of a black American who has dared to leave the Plantation

    "Our blacks are better than their blacks." -- Ann Coulter

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    The Cain camp today put forward their speculation that the revelations about sexual harassment were given to Politico by the Perry camp.

    Not a "liberal" operation folks, just your typical conservative infighting.

    Posted in: Third woman says she was harassed by Cain

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    yabits

    I never would of served them. Losing my citizenship being a Japanese ethnicity puts the Americans in the same camp as the Nazi. Now the US "honors" these brave men who after being kicked to the ground served their country anyway.

    There is a deep and inherent contradiction in your writing.

    First, one correction in what you've written. I agree that those Americans who deprived the Japan-born "issei" and their children of their liberty and property were, in fact, criminals. However, many Americans, starting with First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt, absolutely deplored the actions taken against their fellow Americans and spoke out against it. Some groups, like the Quakers, protested by joining and serving the inmates in the camps.

    I would say that most of the Japanese-Americans who wanted to sign up to serve were eager to do so in order to prove they could be good Americans. Unlike yourself, they did not see their fellow Americans has having anything in common with followers of Naziism. It is because they saw the promise of America -- though often a temporarily broken one -- which is unique in the world.

    And so, when you say that these loyal and true Americans are "better than" you are, I have to wonder why you would want to remain in such a low state of hatred and falsehood.

    Posted in: U.S. Congress honors Japanese-American soldiers

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    yabits

    If you will actually read my statement you will note that I stated "And actually I wouldn't accuse any liberal of racism for criticizing Cain for his beliefs and policy ideas."

    Well, that's mighty nice of you. At what point does critical investigation of Cain's character become racist? Is when an Ann Coulter is compelled to proclaim: "OUR BLACKS are better than "their" blacks?" This is yet another in a very long list of gross and ugly statements by Coulter and still Fox and other conservative venues invite her and provide her with platform to spout her bile and hatred.

    It stems from your same erroneous assumptions that all on the right are members of the tea party, and that all tea party members are racist.

    Nowhere have I said or suggested that all on the right are "members" of the tea party. I would say that a large majority of those on the right sympathize with the Tea Party movement and its goals. (That does not mean a majority of Republicans -- many of whom are attacked by the right for being RINOs -- i.e.: not ideologically pure enough.) Living here in Georgia for over 25 years now has given me a lot of intimate familiarity with the conservatives and tea party supporters living here. And I do know the code words when I hear them.

    Posted in: Confident Cain plans to cut back campaign events

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    yabits

    Are you serious with this? Come on. So arguably the most powerful man (position wise - no pun intended) in the world gets a twenty-three year old intern to 'perform' in the WH on our tax dollar time, and you're all cool with that because he's a Dem.

    Again, your judgment is extremely clouded. Sexual or other immorality is not OK or cool, no matter who is doing it. That is why it is critically important to identify and asses those flaws before letting the person into a position of high authority and power. It is why Ted Kennedy could never aspire to be president, nor could Gary Hart. (And you are completely off your rocker for suggesting it couldn't happen with Democrats.)

    then the devilish cad must certainly be morally bankrupt, right?

    Everything depends upon how forthrightly the questions that are raised are answered. You do understand that, don't you? Someone who keeps changing his story is making heavy withdrawals from the "morals bank."

    Oh right, because you're so ready to admit that old Billy Clinton should practically have been on 'To Catch a Predator' with his performance with a young, impressionable, intern.

    I've read about the sequence of events, starting from when the young woman in question wanted to show off her thong underwear. Clinton paid for his indiscretions with public humiliation and impeachment. So why aren't the conservatives reacting to Cain the way they reacted to Clinton? Here's another example: Congressman Gary Condit of California, who had a brief relationship with a young intern who later disappeared. I recall many a conservative blog and site that alleged that he was her killer.

    And what about my dem ex-governor Spitzer here in NY who was thrown out after being caught with a high-priced hooker.

    Well, there goes your claim that it never happens to Democrats. To be precise, Spitzer resigned from office -- just like Nixon did. Neither were "thrown out."

    You ride that moral high horse only when it's convenient, don't you?

    I would say that my morals are of the garden-average variety. That it may seem like a high horse may have more to do with the moral perspective of my right-wing detractors.

    And we come to the key problem: It's actually the conservatives who think they possess the morality. It is conservatives who have referred to themselves as "the moral majority," and have often times thought of themselves as fighting a culture war against things like homosexuality, sex education, etc. We liberals tend to be of a more forgiving nature. So we are both bit puzzled and amused when it is discovered that a conservative may have behaved in an immoral and inappropriate manner, how, instead of demanding to get to the bottom of it, start attacking liberals. As if bringing up the sins of liberals and Democrats past will somehow absolve them of their own sins.

    That is what you clearly demonstrated in your post.

    Posted in: Republican candidate Cain denies report of sexual harassment

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