Thursday February 16, 2012

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    yabits

    Oswald didn't have a rich-and-connected Daddy Joe to write his plea deal for him.

    Joseph Kennedy, having suffered a debilitating stroke in 1961, was barely able to coprehend what was going on in the last year of his life, much less go around writing plea deals.

    Of course, don't let facts like that stop you from posting your hate-filled nonsense.

    Moderator: Readers, please stay on topic and keep the discussion civil.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    yabits

    but when conservatives say anything derogatory about Teddy, they are called vile and heinous.

    Actually, there are a lot of conservatives who don't have to open their mouths to demonstrate their vileness -- but it sure does help.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    yabits

    but I will say that I 100% disagreed with him, and think he and his elder brothers were diametrically opposite....

    Anyone who thinks that Ted Kennedy was "diametrically" opposite to the political philosphy of his own brothers is simply not thinking.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    yabits

    I wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne would think about all these glowing eulogies. Did she get anything like that?

    Checking...checking....

    Nope, there is no record of a Mary Jo Kopechne serving as a 5-term senator.

    The conservative talk-show host John McLaughlin today told his audience about a special show being planned to ackowledge the "extraordinary accomplishments" of Senator Ted Kennedy. The blind, the deaf, and (especially) the dumb remain clueless.

    Posted in: Kennedy remembered for 'dream he kept alive'

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    yabits

    They keep trying to tie Kennedy's death and the events of his life to their agenda.It's all politics all the time with these people.

    As one blogger put it, you could have a Republican drive a fully loaded schoolbus full of children over a bridge and as long has he had a solid record of gutting the environment, being anti-gun-control, pro-tax-cut, pro-big business, he'd be totally forgiven.

    Posted in: Sen Edward Kennedy dies at 77

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    yabits

    Teddy liked to tell Chappaquiddick jokes. Oh yeah, that's really charming. Yeah, he "honored" her. A real class act there.

    I never heard a Chappaquiddick joke that didn't have Ted as the butt of it. The National Lampoon VW ad was pretty darned funny.

    Again we see the typical sanctimonious hypocrisy of the conservative on display. There is a very primal reason that people laugh at tragedy and at themselves, but it's conservatives who actually (and falsely) believe that they are above all that.

    Posted in: Sen Edward Kennedy dies at 77

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    yabits

    By a strange coincidence, my wife and I just finished watching the French movie, Pauline at the Beach (Pauline a la Plage) last night. Filmed around Granville around 1984, the bucolic scenes gave not a hint of the ecological problems the area would be facing in a couple of decades.

    Posted in: France faces reality of toxic beaches after horse dies

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    yabits

    Yabits, I understand you make a strawman argument.

    Since you appear to have missed it the first time around, here is the replay:

    You: Kennedy proved himself to be a coward twice. Me: Cowardice does not appear to exclude anyone from a position of leadership from either party. You: (paraphrased): Some CBS news guy one time tried to prove that one particular Republican was a coward, and he was fired for doing so. (The inference here is that because a news guy got fired on one occasion, my assertion that no leader of Republicians has ever shown cowardice is somehow refuted. Talk about your strawmen.)

    Oh, I see, Yabits... You're not really talkin' to me.

    Can one actually "talk" to a person who has already stated that Senator Kennedy was a homicidal coward, and who implies that there is no cowardly behavior on his side of the political spectrum? How could I expect my words to make it past the blinders?

    What does that do for you?

    A little of the bright light and fresh air of truth is always a welcome remedy for the rancid innuendoes and outright lies told by Republican "dirt-diggers."

    Moderator: Readers, you are going around in circles and taking the discussion nowhere. Please move on.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    Yabits, in this incident alone, Teddy proved himself a coward twice

    And being a coward doesn't appear to exclude anyone from a leadership position in either of the two major parties.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    The diver himself said he could have prevented her drowning had he been called when the accident happened.

    I guess you are implying that Ted failed to use his cell phone.

    First of all, there was no phone at the scene. Secondly, it is apparent that Ted was lost. What was the minimum amount of time that could have elapsed after Ted stopped trying to dive to get Mary Jo out of the car and before he could actually find a phone with which to summon support?

    You do understand that there are right-wing lunatics out there who actually believe that Ted murdered Mary Jo, right? It appears that any attempt to bring the events into a line with what is actually known about the incident brings out accusations of "apologist" from anyone who sticks to the murder-or-homicide angle.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    Also, it does not excuse his swimming ashore, swimming another 500' across the channel, walking back to his hotel and getting a more or less sound night's sleep without ever calling the police.

    I have said all along that those actions were inexcuseable and reprehensible. But they don't constitute homicide.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    Yabits, you presume a whole lot.

    Actually, for someone like yourself who wasn't there and who spouts off that Ted Kennedy had been "drinking excessively," despite contrary reports from witnesses, it is you who are presuming "a whole lot."

    You also appear to be making the claim that a 29-year-old can't tell when someone has been "drinking excessively." Especially when she's asking him for a ride in his car.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    And most resonable people would think that someone who: drives drunk into the water, leaves someone in the car...

    Reasonable people don't make unfounded charges.

    Where is the evidence that Kennedy was driving drunk?

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    And most resonable people would think that someone who: drives drunk into the water, leaves someone in the car, swims to shore, gets a few hours sleep, and never calls the police - would be charged with more than leaving the scene of an accident.

    More looney tunes.

    The American system of so-called justice favors the wealthy and/or well-to-do, liberal or conservative.

    This is news to you?

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    When one drinks excessively and then plunges his vehicle off the roadway into a body of water...

    The witnesses of the night of July 18, 1969, as far as Ted Kennedy's announced departure from the party he was attending, and Mary Jo's overt request for a ride back to her hotel are well known and documented.

    Mary Jo Kopechne, age 29, was an adult at the time, and presumably able to discern whether her intended driver was overly intoxicated.

    Now, the USA being my native country, and having driven on many a remote New England road in the light of day, I can easily understand how, in pitch dark, someone could become disoriented, driving at a breakneck speed of 20 miles per hour, take a wrong turn on a road that has a bridge with no guard rail and one that juts out obliquely from the main road, and end up in the water.

    Failing to promptly report a legitimate accident after it has occurred does not automatically constitute homicide, at least not in the United States. Not unless it can be shown that divers could have been dispatched to the scene in sufficient time to have prevented Ms. Kopechne from drowning.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    Loony right-wingers ignore the basic facts of how Mary Jo came to leave the party with Ted. Most reasonable people think that if you're planning to have a tryst, the last thing you do is leave a party together with a bunch of folks witnessing your departure.

    Of course, we're talking about reasonable people. Not the sorts that believe that Mary Jo's asking Ted for a ride back to her hotel provided him with his big opporunity to kill her by driving his car -- with her AND him in it -- into a body of water. Not only does the perpetrator have to get out -- no guarantees there -- he has to make sure that the other person doesn't make it out.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    Accident? A homicide of this nature is an 'accident'?

    Yes. An accident. One does not try to commit murder by driving one's own car over a bridge into water.

    I realize how much it would please the Republican haters and apologists for apartheid if Ted had drowned that night along with Mary Jo. His inability to do what it eventually took divers to accomplish is what has right-wingers screaming homicide like a bunch of dwarf stooges.

    I'm just glad I don't have to be the person who needs to apologize for right-wing cretins.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    That would include first aid to like a person like Mary Joe?

    Rendering first aid would have meant getting her out of the back seat of a car resting upside down under about 8 feet of water. After trying multiple times and not succeeding, Kennedy went back to the party he and Mary Jo had left and returned with two men, who also tried and failed to get to the back seat.

    Kennedy testified that he failed to see houses in the area that he could have gone to to report the accident. It's plausible, considering his state of mind and the amount of alcohol in him.

    Does this exonerate him from the things he did wrong? Not at all. But the Republican haters show how petty-minded they are when they attempt to use a tragic accident to trump the man's real achievements. I personally admired Kennedy's early coming out against apartheid and supporting strong sanctions against the white regime of South Africa. That was a regime that brutally murdered and tortured many thousands of young people, and it was sanctimonious and self-righteous Republicans who opposed Kennedy in his stand against an evil regime.

    Posted in: Nixon dug deep for dirt on Ted Kennedy

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    yabits

    And please; if Bush or Chenney were dead the liberals on here would be unashamedly dancing in the streets.

    Funny, I don't recall any dancing in the streets over the deaths of any conservatives. What I do see is wishful thinking coming from a complete fantasy that paints decent people acting as lowlife as some of these conservatives here.

    Just because you are a Republican, it doesn't mean you shouldn't show some decency by offering condolences or simply saying RIP.

    The Republicans are hurting enough as a party these days without folks pointing out the large segment of their base composed of people who have no sense of dignity or class.

    Growing up, I recall the diehard Republican family next door who absolutely hated JFK. Devout Baptists, who, I presume have something to do with Christ, they always appeared to me (as a middle-school student at the time) to be absolutely gloating after his assassination.

    Then, in 1968, there was the other diehard Republican small-business owner who pulled me aside and told me that he thought RFK had it coming to him. (These two incidents began for me a desire to stay far away from a party that could attract people who truly disgusted me.)

    Nice to see how some things never change.

    Posted in: Sen Edward Kennedy dies at 77

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    yabits

    bushlover: "That all said about what should have happened to them, I do challenge you to think of yourselves in that situation and what you would have done in the heat of the moment."

    pawatan: "Believe me I am confident in my moral fiber to know I wouldn't gun down 500+ innocents."

    People should know about some of the heroes of this mass killing: the soldiers who took an active role, when coming upon the scene, to stop it and prevent more killing. There is helicopter pilot, Hugh Thompson Jr., who threated to fire on his fellow U.S. troops that he witnessed killing innocent people.

    The real question may be if people have the moral fiber of a Hugh Thompson to take the actions he did.

    Posted in: Calley apologizes for Vietnam massacre

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