Wednesday February 15, 2012

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    yabits

    and the good?

    Wonder how much tsunami and earthquake relief it will take to make up for the tens of thousands of innocent Indo-Chinese killed, and the children who are yet to be killed over the next 100 years from the leftover ordnance in Southeast Asia alone.

    You love your guilt and misery.

    No. It's people like you who love your denial and turning a blind eye towards the evil you are very much part of. What you'll leave me to is constantly reminding people of that fact. I'll leave you to your denial.

    As for "Rah rah USA," never before in human history has there been a nation whose ratio of thinking highly of itself while bringing misery and destruction to others was so high.

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    yabits

    Because they're so far above us, the only way they feel they connect with us lower slime creatures, is via insults.

    Why would conservatives take their wallowing in the slime of continual misrepresentation of facts and events as an insult? Why not wear that slime proudly?

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    Why can't they just focus on truth and fairness and take their lumps when they come?

    If everyone who considers themselves a "conservative" would take a vow to devote themselves to honestly and thoroughly seeking out the various sides of an issue, and boldly go where the facts lead them, rejecting myth and dogma, the liberal ranks would be overflowing within a week.

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    yabits

    I've always wondered why liberals always feel the need to insult people they don't agree with.

    And I've always wondered why conservatives always try to insult the intelligence of the people they can never measure up to.

    The best of the liberal writers -- Franken included -- can present the conservative side of an argument as good as conservatives do - before using simple logic and facts to deflate it like a bad tire. The occasions when a conservative presents the liberal side of an argument fairly and honestly are very rare indeed.

    Anyway, one of my favorite Franken quotes: "Worring about whether there is bias in the media is worrying about whether or not Al Qaeda puts too much olive oil in its hummous."

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    yabits

    the well-known Saturday Nite Live pic of Franken

    And his best selling and well-known books: Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot; and Lies, and the Lying Liars who Tell Them.

    Pegged the dittoheads and Fox News-junkies to a T.

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    yabits

    In the end it failed but Ho Chi Minh as president was not what we wanted.

    I would hope that most Americans would want to get behind cleaning up the ordnance in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. I appreciate that you are for it.

    Regarding the quote above, the sad reality is that the Vietnamese who were most against Ho Chi Minh were those Vietnamese who adopted the religion (Catholic) and customs of the French colonialists -- especially concentrated around Saigon in the south. You can best compare these Vietnamese to the Vichy French, who collaborated with the German occupiers. They were a powerful minority, but a minority nonetheless.

    We may not have wanted Ho Chi Minh, but a majority of Vietnamese did. I believe he easily could have been on good terms with a United States that remembered its past against English colonizers.

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    yabits

    i can't tell you how many times i read bush or cheney should be killed on websites over the last several years.

    The reason you can't tell is because the number is zero.

    but i can tell you the left had a free ride against bush

    We're the ones who hold hands at prayer vigils and sing Kumbaya -- remember?

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    yabits

    No American believes that our country is all good, or perfect. Where are you getting this information?

    I read it in the attitudes of people who post as you do.

    If we really were the jarks you take us for, we could just keep all of it.

    There are a great many Americans who believe we should keep all of it. Whether or not they are "jerks," the fact remains that, as a percentage of GDP, the United States gives far less than many other nations.

    Jeez, is it even possible for the people here to lay off the anti-American nonsense for a day?

    As the article states, the innocent people living exposed to the danger of the massive amount of unexploded ordnance, will face this danger for decades to come -- without a day's rest. Sorry, but your offended sensibilities have to take a far distant place behind the realities of these people, their children, and their children's children.

    If more of us Americans would face up to the truth, responsibilities, and real costs of our actions, perhaps we would drop fewer bombs on people to begin with. Had we allowed the democratic process that we supposedly believe in to have taken place in 1956, Vietnam likely would have been united under the rule of Ho Chi Minh (who was a hero to the Allies in WWII) -- as it eventually did become in 1975.

    All those bombs would not have been dropped, and all those lives not wasted and not still threatened today.

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    yabits

    yabits is only trying to justify his own little jihad on the USA.

    I simply speak the truth. If America had made a concerted effort to clean up the dangerous ordnance it left behind, and/or accepted responsibility for the thousands of people killed and maimed, it could have some claim to trying to do the right thing in this situation.

    There are many within the U.S. who really make efforts to do the right things. But there are also very many who actively stifle the attempts to have the country do the right thing.

    It is not all one country's fault, but since WWII, America has been the acknowledged "leader of the free world." The best leadership is by example, and America has not set the best example for other nations. It's usually "Do as I say and not as I do."

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    yabits

    That said your view of America as the ultimate evil prevents you from asking some other important questions.

    My view of America is as of any other country: it is capable of both evil and good, and has done plenty of both. Slavery, the annihilation of native peoples, unjust wars (Mexico, Spain, southeast Asia, Vietnam). Many in America believe it is all good. The truth is much different.

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    yabits

    The words "terrorism" and "democratic" are not absolutes. This is to say, in comparison to other countries in the region, the electoral process in Iran is much more democratic in its form and process.

    Terrorism can also be applied to a great many actions. Such as a drone aircraft firing a missile and striking a civilian wedding party.

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    yabits

    the bombing of North Vietnam was in support of our allies

    And the bombing of Cambodia and Laos? Countries that never did anything to the United States? (Laos being probably the most bombed country on earth, thanks to the U.S.)

    Things in this world connect in funny ways. Next time you feel you want to get all up in arms about the "innocent" victims of terrorism on the retail level (a la Al Qaeda), consider the victims of the wholesale terrorism that the U.S. has caused: Victims of herbicide spray whose horrors play out for generations. Young kids in southeast Asia getting blown apart because of a war they and their parents had absolutely nothing to do with.

    To say that the U.S. can hope to escape what it has coming to it is like hoping that there is not a just God in heaven.

    The South Vietnamese, by the way, were a U.S. creation. Very, very few nations of the world recognized them -- and only because the U.S. was in a position to pressure those few countries into it. The country that for nearly 2,000 years was one Vietnam was temporarily divided following the French defeat, and was supposed to be reunified via a U.N.-supervised election in 1956 -- an election the U.S. and its South Vietnamese puppet government prevented from happening. That's right, concoct an "ally" in order to justify murdering millions of people. Nicely done.

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    yabits

    War sucks and there are always leftover bombs that kill people.

    Yes, and lah-dee-dah.

    An 8-year old girl and her 5-year-old brother will be blown to bits when they stumble upon a gift dropped from a high-altitude bomber by the United States. The pilot and crew were in no danger, and Laos never did anything against the United States. But war sucks.

    Think about that the next time you see images of people jumping to their deaths from the WTC. War sucks. (And what goes around comes around.)

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    yabits

    But THC is a gateway drug...

    Ludicrous and meaningless. What percentage of pot smokers become chronic users of those other drugs? Very small.

    The gateway is actually stupidity. Stupid people try to lie about the "dangers" of pot to the extent that other stupid people conclude that they must be telling lies about other drugs as well.

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    yabits

    In any conflict, innocent people usually must suffer and die. So when you say it is "against Islam," I don't think you know what you are talking about.

    The problem may come from believing that one belongs a nation based on Christian values -- "love your neighbor" "thou shalt not kill" and all that -- and yet has indiscriminately slaughtered thousands of innocent women and children via firebombing and nuclear weapons. This represents a dichotomy between the values professed and the values actually lived out through behavior. The problem being projecting this kind of schizoid contradiction onto the Muslim world.

    There are Moslems who justify killing innocents to themselves, just as there are Westerners -- Americans especially -- who do the same. But the Islamic nations have never thrust a policy of "mutually-assured destruction" on the world. If they were to do so, they would only be following the example of the "free" nations.

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    yabits

    "The Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei, has issued the fatwa that the production, stockpiling and use of nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islam and that Iran shall never acquire these weapons...."

    http://www.iran-daily.com/1384/2347/html/index.htm

    What has your favorite mullah, Sistani, had to say about whether WMD are Islamic or not?

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    yabits

    was talking to the sanctions put in place by the UNSC over Iran's nuclear program.

    And I was referring to all the sanctions against the country. Makes more sense using nuclear technical capability as a bargaining chip.

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    yabits

    Hieu’s figures apparently did not include casualties in neighboring Laos and Cambodia, which were also heavily bombed by the United States during the conflict and where thousands of people have also died in ordnance accidents since 1975.

    Gee, the United States sure has the blood of a lot of innocent people on its hands.

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    yabits

    You mean to say that if I want to grow something on my own land, solely for my own personal consumption, that there is a government out there that will make a criminal out of me and rob me of my freedoms for doing so?

    Talk about your malevolent governments.

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    yabits

    It is widely accepted by the people who've studied Iran and know it best that the ruling clerics have declared that atomic weapons are against Islam, and have ruled out building such weapons, and have issued religious fatwas against them. Understanding the technology involved and actually building a working weapon are two different things, however.

    This is not to say that there are not elements within Iran's society, especially the Revolutionary Guard, who would like to go against the clerics and proceed to the building of weapons. However, these elements do not represent or control Iran -- at least not yet.

    What bolsters and fuels the pro-WMD faction is western belligerence and bullying towards the country and the region. The fact that Israel can thumb its nose at the IAEA and maintain its own nuclear weapons without any sanction -- weapons whose sole purpose can only be against Muslims -- also fuels their aspirations. Israel has made threats to attack Iran.

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