Thursday February 16, 2012

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    yabits

    Despite what a lot of people on the left say, Republicans in general actually believe in the constitution, and support the right of the President to appoint who he will, unlike some Democrats. Thats why Clintons nominees got the support they did, despite their being raving nutcases, and why Obama's will as well.

    Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsberg are highly respected, and their conservative colleagues would, I am sure, object to their being referred to as "raving nutcases." If Republicans believe in the constitution and support the President's appointees, why do they behave like, well, "raving nutcases" on forums like this one?

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    yabits

    If a white male judge said the same thing about Latina Justices, that she said about them. There is no doubt in my mind, that they would automatically be labeled racist as well as sexist, and disqualified from serving on the SC.

    No. They would first be staunchly defended by Republicans spouting "persecution due to political correctness."

    Republican white supremacy would never be so overt as to specifically target a specific group like "Latina Justices." What it comes out as is focus on nativist issues like "English first" and who says what about the border with Mexico.

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    yabits

    La Raza is a racist organization. Or rather, some of their stated aims are.

    I've looked at the aims of La Raza and don't find their aims to be racist at all. The more a person is geared towards white supremacy, the more they are likely view La Raza as racist.

    Sotomayer can speak in front of them. So can George W. Bush (and has). But David Duke? No way.

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    yabits

    you ducked each of the three reasons Sotomayer's background needs to be seriously looked into by providing only a weak head in the cloud response only a mindnumb robot could conjure up.

    Gee, that sounds awfully impolite to another poster.

    This supreme court nominee will likely only further convince the American people that its a bad thing when one party takes total control of the government and vote to restore the balance of power in Washington.

    The only thing worse is when that one party is the Republicans.

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    yabits

    The problem is she has made comments and decisions and belongs to organizations that should disqualify any nominee, Republican or Democrat from sitting on the highest court in the land.

    No, she hasn't. Sotomayor will end up getting a lot of support from Republicans -- just as Bill Clinton's two appointees did.

    If Obama and the Democrats put a person like this on the highest court of the land, the American people should know it before they go back to the voting booths in 2010.

    It will not just be the Democrats. Sotomayor will garner a fair amount of Republican support too.

    The American voters, nearly 60% of whom reject Republicanism, will go to the polls in 2010 knowing that President Obama made a masterful choice.

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    yabits

    would hope that a wise White man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a latina female who hasn't lived that life.

    It would depend upon the individual white man, and what constitutes the "richness of his experiences." Sorry, but a white-WASP male born to a well-off family that has never known hard times, and who entered a university on a legacy endowment and graduating to join the firm of one of daddy's country club friends is not, for his own experiences, a very inspiring story. It is not inspiring because he was born to privilege.

    He is not likely to understand what life is like for millions upon millions of Americans of all backgrounds who had to struggle to get where they were. As a woman, Sotomayor had to successfully navigate her way through the world dominated by men. As a Latino, Sotomayor had to make her way through a society dominated by non-Hispanics. As a child born of immigrants in a housing project, Sotomayor had a closer experience of what it is like to be without.

    As such, she is more likely to understand the conditions of many of the people who approach her seeking justice much, much better than the rich white dude.

    It is some of these whites who raise the insulting insinuation that Judge Sotomayor would treat Latinos more leniently than non-Latinos, who have stepped close to the line of letting their racism show. The reality is this: A Latino man, or a poor white man for that matter, facing Judge Sotomayor, is more likely to feel that his case was understood and decided fairly, than he likely would if he was facing the rich white son of privilege.

    After hearing Sotomayor's words, I am certain of this.

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    yabits

    What's wrong with the American people fully understanding exactly who their next supreme court justice will be?

    While "fully understanding" can be interpreted different ways, there is no problem with attaining the understanding sufficient to make an effective decision. Irresponsible people calling her a racist on the basis of one innocuous remark does not appear to me to be a good faith attempt at seeking an understanding.

    What's wrong with learning how she conducts herself on the bench?

    Nothing at all. Republicans are pouring over all of her cases looking for a smoking gun. The fact that they have yet to come up with something by now indicates something.

    What's wrong with learning about what organizations she belongs to?

    Again, nothing. But irresponsible conservatives labeling organizations like La Raza as "racist" does nothing but serve to show their bad faith. Espcially when reminded that many leading Republicans have supported La Raza.

    loyal followers acting like jackbooted thugs whenever anyone questions

    If you expect people to just roll over and act like creampuffs when attacked by irresponsible conservatives acting in bad faith, you have seriously misjudged your opponents. Speaking for myself, there is no need for jackboots; the conservative negative momentum makes judo the most effective counter.

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    yabits

    But if a Republican does it, somehow its sinking into slime.

    The slime comes from overt misrepresentation of President Obama's remarks. President Obama did not call for "swift confirmation" of Sotomayor. He fully acknowledged the need for a thorough and rigorous process. Since the confirmation of Roberts took two months, and the confirmation of Alito took three months, I don't see any reason why a thorough, rigorous examination of an Obama nominee would need to take longer than that.

    Slime is added when the misrepresentation by some irresponsible conservatives becomes slander directed against all Democrats.

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    yabits

    You mean like former Ku Klux Klan (Grand Kleagle no less) and current Democrat Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia?

    In relation to the great sensitivity to racism, civil rights, and inclusion that became the Democratic Party's standards from the 1960s on, one would have to examine the patterns of racism as a matter of locality.

    What appears to me to be the case is that hardcore conservatives, in feigning all this offense over Sotomayor's completely harmless words, will bring up someone like a Senator Byrd in an attempt to whitewash their own party's racist tendencies. This is why, within very recent history, the Republican National Chairman felt the need to apologize to African-Americans for the racist "southern strategy" employed by the party.

    This does not mean the Repubican Party has totally abandoned such racist strategies. (Look at how their initial response was to rally behind Trent Lott's defense of an arch-segregationist.) We see many of their hardliners crying "reverse racism" in response to the innocuous remarks of Judge Sotomayor. To the extent that Byrd might still be a racist is better known to the voters in his home district. One would have to see how they would vote in an election where a white person was pitted against a non-white. To the extent that they would send a person of Byrd's background to Washington in the belief he still was that kind of person, one would expect them to vote heavily Republican in other contests.

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    yabits

    Why would Repubicans want to drag out the confirmation process as long as possible?

    One simple reason: To throw red meat out to their base and raise funds for their sorry party.

    This is mentioned in the article on the topic relating to how Repubicans are not likely to filibuster.

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    yabits

    Judge Sotomayor does seem to delve into the realm of 'Identity Politics' in formulating her legal opinions

    And the evidence of this is where?

    Morgan Freeman didn't mention it.

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    yabits

    In terms of authority I'm pretty sure it is actually.

    Yes, in relation to the authority of government officials acting in their roles, the Constitution is the highest law of the land.

    However, when we are discussing "the People," there is a higher law. After all, the people have the right to abolish the constitution -- a right not spelled out in it. You can only assert your position if you believe that people are made for constitutions, and not the other way around.

    We aren't talking about comprehension here. I'm simply pointing out the utter absurdity of saying that one upbringing or demographic has a greater value than another.

    And I am pointing out the utter absurdity of claiming that a person brought up in two cultures will not have a greater richness of experience than a person who only knows one.

    I certainly never got a job due to the 'richness' of my upbringing.

    Well, if such richness is not there it can't be helped. But a person who can speak more than one language fluently certainly has an edge over a person who can't -- all OTHER things being relatively equal.

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    yabits

    What is so puzzling? When a liberal activist judge gets caught playing the race card and says things things that are blatantly rascist you can't comprehend why people don't think she is worthy to sit on the highest court in the land.

    There was nothing racist about Sotomayor's choice of words. She simply expressed a hope that a wise Latina woman, could as often as not, reach a better conclusion than a white male judge who didn't happen to have the richness of experiences.

    Did she state that Latinas are better than all whites as a fact? No. Read it again: She's not making a comparison to every single white person, just those who, for whatever reason, didn't have the richness of experience of growing up in two cultures.

    Does she say that the Latina would make better decisions as a fact? No. She said she hoped that the Latina would -- as often as not.

    And conservatives call this blatant racism, and playing a "race card?" LOL!!! I think you're only making bigger fools out of yourselves in doing so.

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    yabits

    Obama's hypocritical demand that the racist Sotomayor be swiftly confirmed is equally Democrat to the core.

    And the obvious misrepresentation by some irresponsible conservatives demonstrates a Republican Party sinking into its own slime.

    Obama never called for swift confirmation. He wants the confirmation process to being swiftly, but that it should be rigorous and thorough. What he wants, and what most Americans want, is for this process to flow in a timely manner.

    In the end, many Republican senators will vote to approve Sotomayor, leaving the slanderers behind in the dust.

    When former-President Bush picked a moderate in John Roberts, the Senate confirmed him after a 2-month process, with no question of delay via filibustering. When Bush nominated Alito, someone many Democrats considered far too conservative, it is true that many Democrats, Obama included, voted to filibuster.

    But with Sotomayor, a great many Republicans admit that she is a moderate. However, that doesn't mean much to a lot of conservatives here, who are on record as doing nothing but casting out slander on Sotomayor as well as all Democrats.

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    yabits

    So why bluster loudly when you can put the squeeze on...

    It wouldn't have stopped some people. Obama is not one of them.

    But back to Sotomayor, she is more qualified than I am, and I admit she does have a background of moderate views, but tell me, out of all the people on the Federal benches she is the best candidate? If so, what makes her this?

    She is according to the President, who also happens to be an expert on constitutional law.

    Because if so, and she was so great, then the very "witch hunt" that the Repubs would want would come back and bite them since if as you say she would be found to be the best qualified. But I doubt that is the case, hence the need to get this through fast.

    You should stop believing the terribly unfortunate title chosen or passed along by JT. The title of the President's weekly radio address, given by the White House press office is: President Obama Calls for Thorough and Timely Confirmation for Judge Sonia Sotomayor. Here is what President Obama actually said in his radio address:

    "Congress returns this week and I hope the confirmation process will begin without delay. No nominee should be seated without rigorous evaluation and hearing; I expect nothing less. But what I hope is that we can avoid the political posturing and ideological brinksmanship that has bogged down this process, and Congress, in the past. Judge Sotomayor ought to be on the bench when the Supreme Court decides what cases to hear this year and I’m calling on Democrats and Republicans to be thorough, and timely in dealing with this nomination."

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/thepressoffice/WEEKLY-ADDRESS-President-Obama-Calls-for-Thorough-and-Timely-Confirmation-for-Judge-Sonia-Sotomayor/

    He hopes that the confimation process will begin swiftly. And he expects the process to be rigorous and thorough. I am certain that Democrats can be rigorous, thourough, and timely. Are folks here implying that Republicans can't accomplish that?

    Finally, the question is not and as never been whether or not Sotomayor meets some mythical criteria for "the best of the best." Can she be an effective Supreme Court justice? Her record of accomplishments -- which are many -- will show that she can. Some of conservatives on this board, following Limbaugh (who wants Obama to fail) and Gingrich, have cherry-picked one remark she made in 2001 to call her a "racist." What they don't seem to be able to provide, however, is a consistent pattern of legal decisions that Sotomayor has made which backs up that slander.

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    yabits

    Alphaape: You totally misunderstand.

    After a very narrow victory over John Kerry in 2004, George Bush told the American people: "I've earned political capital in this campaign, and I intend to spend it."

    President Obama won by an even greater margin over John McCain, and the Democrats trounced Republicans in many other places. Yet we don't see President Obama blustering about his "political capital."

    I don't know what that has to do with Obama's attempt as a senator to stall the nomination of Alito.

    If he really was going to rise above the political fray, he would have nominated a caonservative hispanic woman.

    How would that have caused him to "rise above" the political fray? That is not why so many millions of Americans rallied behind his candidacy. (So that he could pick a conservative.)

    You mean to say that Republicans get to call Obama "sleazy" and his pick (Sotomayor) a "racist" and then it is incumbent upon President Obama to kowtow to those people? (People whom the American voters soundly rejected!)

    Conservatives should be delighted that President Obama picked a moderate. Those on the left -- The Nation magazine, for example -- have serious reservations about Sotomayor. But many of the conservatives I read here don't have an ounce of fair-mindedness in them. Nothing, but nothing, Obama could do would appear "above the fray" to these people.

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    yabits

    After the previous administration's calls for swift confirmation of its nominees, it strikes me as very odd that a Republican should term this as "sleazy."

    I will repeat the fact that President Obama has not blustered, telling the American people about all of his "political capital." What a refreshing change from the sleaze of the past.

    If anyone, purposely or accidentally, misconstrues this to to say that I think that Obama is sleazy, they are totally wrong.

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    yabits

    sleazy is sleazy and glad you agree Obama is just another sleazy politician.

    I understand that a Republican who is neck-deep in sleaze will see the whole world that way.

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    yabits

    Leave it to the Obama lovers to not see her statements as blatantly rascist especially when they scream so loud when anybody but a democrat utters anything remotely rascist.

    I can understand why Democrats would be so sensitive to racism. For decades, up until the late 1950s and early 1960s, the Democratic Party formed an unholy alliance with southern racist whites. When the northeastern and midwestern liberal forces in the party pushed for greater integration and civil rights for blacks, the southerners rebelled and started joining the Republicans.

    What is so puzzling is why Republicans are so up in arms about something as mildly ambiguous as Sotomayor's remarks, and yet rushed to defend the obvious racist sentiments of Trent Lott.

    Hypocrites? I think so.

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    yabits

    What if the latina woman grew up in Idaho? Would that detract from the 'richness' of her experience?

    It depends. If she was raised among migrant fruit and vegetable pickers, perhaps not. If she was raised in a middle-class suburb that was not predominantly Latino, then her experience wouldn't allow her to understand that of the migrant pickers to the extent of someone who was living that life.

    Isn't the term Latina/o rascist in itself?

    Definitely not.

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