Thursday February 16, 2012

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    yabits

    Someone who isn't immediately thought of as an incompetent, the way Obama is.

    Nobody really cares what you think about your president, Molenir.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

  • -1

    yabits

    Yabits, if someone were to say that "Most Democrats are too far gone, lazy and deluded socialists who only want to steal what they were too lazy to create", what would you think?

    I would think the statement came from a deluded and degraded mind. I mean, it's so easily proven to be unfounded.

    After all, among the people we think of as being very creative -- mainly artists, writers and inventors -- we can find a great many liberals. Silicon Valley is a bastion of liberal values.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

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    yabits

    How about listening to a revered Marine General

    Of course, the person quoted was none other than General Smedley Butler -- 2-time winner of the Congressional Medal of Honor, the United States' highest decoration for courage by a person in uniform.

    Posted in: Do you support the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement which is spreading globally?

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    yabits

    I'm part of the 99% who is sick of hearing about how EVIL banks and financial institutions are. I was under the impression that professionals made enough that they didn't need to tear down other economic venues to feel better about themselves.

    Winning a Congressional Medal of Honor is a special. thing. How about listening to a revered Marine General who won the Medal of Honor twice? Here is what he had to say about Wall Street financial institutions.

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

    Posted in: Do you support the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement which is spreading globally?

  • -1

    yabits

    You speak of an honest playing field when your ilk offers no such thing.

    There are some on the right who are so filled with hatred and bile that they wouldn't know an honest playing field if they were offered one.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    Well Yabits at least I've finally got you to admit that the system of government you're looking for has no basis in capitalism

    The protesters -- and I agree with them -- want a system that has no basis in the kind of capitalism practiced by the Wall Street financial firms and bankers. When you start bringing up Stalinism, you've gone off your rocker. I happen to like democracy and want it applied more the economic sphere. So do the protesters.

    I know a good many people who served in Vietnam and the stories of spitting and name-calling are not just media inventions. Because you personally did not experience this does not make it fantasy.

    We can watch the half-truths and lies being spun about the OWS protesters on a daily basis. We learn a lot from past protests, and how the right wing uses lies heaped upon lies to try and make their points. A Holy Cross professor did research and wrote a book on the myth of the "spat-upon" veteran. (The Spitting Image: Myth, Memory and the Legacy of Vietnam). After exhaustive research, he didn't find a single validated case where this occurred. He did find, however, that anti-war protesters and "hippies" were subject to frequent physical abuse by those opposed to them.

    My shipmates and I have our own direct experiences, which is far better than the urban myths you've received fifth-hand and suckered yourself into believing.

    You've admitted hating and despising these protesters, and want to blame the entire decline of the United States on them, because somehow, despite what you would call their terminal laziness, they were able to rise up to positions of power where they ran everything. Honestly, listen to yourself sometime. Nothing but a bundle of illogic and contradictions.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    Why can't you play on a level and honest playing field.

    Why? Because they simply can not.

    If a substantial majority of Americans supported conservative ideas, do you think they would be pushing for laws which threaten to decrease voter participation? Heck no -- they'd be all for making it as easy as possible for people to vote, shifting elections to a weekend or making it a holiday to get maximum participation.

    This is partly why people are in the streets.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    Growing? Pyongyang has been waiting for you guys..

    Desperate, aren't we?

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    Where is the Occupy Hollywood movement?

    For those who aren't geographically challenged, Hollywood is part of Los Angeles and therefore part of the Occupy LA movement. One of more than a thousand cities worldwide and growing.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    It is taken for granted that there will be a GOP challenger, just common sense.

    Yes, but it is not common sense to say that the Dems will look for a challenger to President Obama. So why do you keep saying it?

    If they haven't leaned their history from 1980, when they stuck with Carther after Ted Kennedy gave him a good challenge in the primaries to only go down in flames

    Do you see how completely nonsensical you are here? Carter went down after Ted Kennedy challenged him. Would Ted Kennedy have fared better against Reagan? It's highly doubtful. So if there's any history to learn from here it is not to put up a challenger against your incumbent president and split the party and weaken the base of support.

    do you actually think that they will risk losing the White House with polling like it is now where just about any GOP candidate can give him a close fight?

    Polls are not elections. Back in 1979, there were months of speculation and urging from the progressive wing of the Democratic Party before Ted Kennedy mounted his challenge to Carter. Today, there is none of that coming from the Democrats against President Obama. ZERO. NIL. Only the duped and deluded on the right-wing keep spouting that nonsense.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

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    yabits

    @yabits: I seem to recall you using words similar to that to describe me when I said that it will be a close fight for the president in the next election. You were telling me that the GOP could not put anyone up that would challenge him.

    You recall absolutely wrongly. You kept asserting that the Democrats were going to put up a challenger to President Obama and that it was going to be close fight for the Democratic nomination.

    Of course, I kept saying you were delusional. And now you've completely changed your story to make it a GOP challenger.

    The real worry that he has to fear is if the Dems put up another person as a primary challenger.

    There you go again.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

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    yabits

    I would love to see Jon Huntsman take a last-second lead, but I don't see that happening.

    I don't either. Most Republicans are too far mentally gone, deluded, paranoid, etc. to ever see clearly enough.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

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    yabits

    I can't imagine anything better than a Romney/Obama debate. It would be a slaughter- a man with years of experience in business and commerce

    Willard isn't doing all that well against the "magnificent" minds [sic] of people like Bachmann and Perry.

    The strategy to whip Willard was made plain when he had his butt handed to him in the attempt to unseat Ted Kennedy. The fact is that, as an executive of Bain Capital, Willard destroyed more jobs and lives than he ever created.

    Posted in: Public unsettled on who should challenge Obama

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    yabits

    I support the citizens who are willing to protest to seek justice and accountability for the leaders of the banking and finance industry who created and sold the phony financial instruments that ended up driving the U.S. economy into crisis. What decent American wouldn't support that goal?

    Especially since the people in Washington who are supposed to represent them -- Republicans particularly -- have been working to dismantle the few protections that have been put in place since the meltdown, and still are tying up any attempt to regulate derivatives. Why? Because they are in the pockets of the finance industry.

    Posted in: Do you support the 'Occupy Wall Street' movement which is spreading globally?

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    yabits

    Nothing in life is "free"

    From the point of view of the homesteaders, the land was given to them. Try not to lose the point that a claim was made that the U.S. was "capitalist" from its inception. The government giving away lands -- no matter how they were obtained -- is example that it was certainly not capitalist in many respects.

    In many respects, the native Americans were victims of the American-style capitalist impulse at its finest, so I'm glad you brought that up. The Occupy Wall Street movement is a recognition that the capitalists continue to rape, steal, and plunder. Millions of Americans have lost their homes -- just as the natives did -- as a result of bad faith deals with the capitalists.

    Yes, a great analogy.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    I should add, I don't consider Santorum, Johnson, and Gingrich to be viable at all.

    There isn't a Johnson among the Republican candidates.

    Posted in: Republican contenders tear into each other at Las Vegas debate

  • -1

    yabits

    You see, what bothers a good many of us about a system that creates a huge government entity that taxes the hell out of anyone who dares a modicum of success

    During the decades of America's enormous economic growth from the late 40s to the mid 60s, the top marginal tax rate was above 90% for most that period. That's right, 90%. And you call a 15% tax on capital gains being "taxed to hell?" It's time for the rich and their obedient slaves to stop whining.

    We need to fix the economy and move ahead with some brilliant new ideas, not sit about with some vague notions, playing the guitar and pretending it's Haight-Ashbury all over again.

    I grew up in the 50s and 60s and it most of it had nothing to do with Haight-Ashbury. What we see now as then, however, are conservative liars who wish to marginalize and dismiss the powerful social movements that arose during that time by tagging everyone as "dirty hippies." Brilliant new ideas come out of creativity, which itself comes out of rejection of the status quo.

    Spitting on soldiers who were most often drafted to serve their country and calling them baby killers (and having never been there) always struck me as simply vile behavior.

    A total lie. I spent nearly a year of my enlistment on Treasure Island (San Francisco) and went into town most nights and weekends during that year, as well as sometimes over to Berkeley on the other side, and never experienced anything resembling that kind of treatment. Those stories were concocted by conservatives years later to further slur and denigrate the anti-war movement.

    I personally also blame much of our decline as a nation on these idiots once they became adults and 'ran things'

    The fascist mindset has to create the scapegoat. It's a nice, simple, convenient approach that doesn't require too much critical thinking. The failure of Germany after WWI was blamed by some on the Jews of Europe, who were accused of all manner of atrocities (just as "hippies" are accused of spitting on soldiers). Suddenly, everyone who sympathized with the anti-war, equal-rights, and civil-rights movements of the 1960s gets classified as a "dirty hippie."

    My bet is that 75% of the college student protestors end up working for some large corporation; the true irony of life.

    I don't believe that bet is going to hold true. You just can't see the alternative yet. Most large corporations have been downsizing and are not going to hire massive numbers of new people. The truth about this particularly malevolent form of US capitalism has shown its true face.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    But what I do find issue with, and find downright troubling, is that what we have had since America's inception is a constitutional capitalist republic.

    I totally disagree. Capitalism was never written into the constitution. If "we the people" can gather enough support, we can choose any economic system that best secures the blessings of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You can go back to the early days of the country to find the government giving away free land to those who were willing to work it. Free land? How is that capitalism? Can you imagine the government buying houses and giving them away for free to those willing to live in and take care of them? The point is that the United States has never been a purely capitalistic society, with good reason.

    I dare feel unashamed pride in our flag, and like 'The Duke' (comments against such sentiments you recently made)

    As a lifelong American and a veteran of the Navy (with Vietnam service), honesty compels me to have mixed feelings about the flag and my nation's history. We were not perfect when we started and we are far from perfecting justice and liberty today. It's very cheap and easy to wave a flag and pretend all is well. I know there's a certain segment of the population that sucks those things up with a weepy kind of sentimentality. I never put much stock in those cheap and easy feelings.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    They have not 'come up with a more just and fair system' other than some rather abstract 'tax the rich' statements and an overall feeling against the the capitalist economy.

    How long did it take the "leaders" of the current system to come up with a way to massively take down the American economy, and drive the entire banking system to the bring of the abyss? (Answer: much longer than the one month these OWS folks have been out there. Decades, in fact.)

    It is somewhat ironic (or moronic) that you can only do this legitimately apparently if you are on the left - otherwise you get labeled as a bunch of hick, ignorant, fat-cat racists.

    Nobody ever said that the Tea Party protests weren't legitimate. Concerns have been raised about the people among the Tea Partiers who have tacitly endorsed violence and racist images. A major Senate candidate spoke of "second amendment remedies, " and the threat "if ballots don't work then bullets will" came out of the office of a Republican Tea Party congressman in Florida.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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    yabits

    I don't doubt that there is anger over disparity, but do doubt that many of these young people really fully understand this disparity and the full cause rather than what is spouted to them by the movement's liberal creators.

    How would you know what they understand and don't understand? Have you gone out and talked to them?

    Go back to the 1960s and the anti-Vietnam war movement. The students knew many times more about the situation than did the average American -- especially when returning vets started to join their ranks. The movement started with "teach-ins" to convey accurate information about what was really happening -- while the governments of Johnson and Nixon portrayed a continuous stream of lies, as revealed by the Pentagon Papers.

    It is more than anger over disparity -- far more. The anger is mainly directed at the fact that the US economy was brought down by these people, and nobody held accountable. Worse, the system that enabled the collapse is still largely in place. A better future needs to be brought about -- and these people see it as their duty to help bring about the necessary change. Once they figure out how to bring some real anxiety to the lives of the 1% in a non-violent way -- probably through widening strike-actions -- things will get very interesting.

    Posted in: Occupy Wall Street movement flexes muscles one month on

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