Here we go, First ROK 56 swimmers then China's 14 sailors and now 150 of Japan's folks in 20 boats sailing. I guess if you got to do it then do it big. Pity they are not allowed to land on the isles cause it's just enough people for a nice barbeque. hahahahaaa
SunnysideUp at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:28PM JST
Why not top what ROK did by having all 150 people swim to the islands?
the-grouch at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:31PM JST
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
So is China going to interfere in this event? If so are they going to arrest 150+ people and deport them as well? If China is correct about the ownership of these isles they WILL interfere and publicly execute everyone involved but since they cannot legally interfere ALL they can do is protest and complain. Has anyone seen the videos posted on liveleak on China's protest (among others)? They are really funded for these events! Do people take time off of work to protest? Do these people even work? They are protesting night and day for days in a row! For what?
PT24881 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:33PM JST
The Noda cabinet had 'allowed' them to do so before : right-wingers are allowed to sail / fish near the disputed islands, coastguards turned a blind eye if some / all of them land on the islands.
Sounded predictable step to follow given the cumulated grievances from the northern territories-Kuriles / Takeshima- Dokdo, Senkaku-Diaoyu remains the perfect stage to vent out grievances resulted from other face- losing incidents elsewhere.
Unfortunately, the situation becomes extremely dangerous this time. Reasons to have serious concerns if they do so.
tokyostyle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:33PM JST
there is a big difference utrack.
koreans swam there and landed in the island because the island belongs to them
chinese sailors landed in Diaoyu because the island belongs to chinese
will the japanese nationalists able to land in Diaoyu? i don't think so.
TheXyco at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:38PM JST
Let the activist nationalists from whatever nation go and duke it melee-style out on these rocks for sake of their 'pride'. Meanwhile, the rest of us living in the 21st century in Japan, China, and Korea can conduct commerce as usual -- making our fortunes through civility and cooperation. Enjoy your "honor" -- I'll stake my own honor in what I can accomplish rather than how many "others" I can intimidate and irritate.
Serrano at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:44PM JST
Don't these people have anything better to do? Like help rebuild Tohoku?
"We could not just let it go."
Sure you could have. You just chose not to.
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:47PM JST
Is the Island Swim going to become a new Olympic Event? Better start timing it...
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:54PM JST
Everybody was kung-fu fighting,
Those cats were fast as lightning,
In fact it was a little bit fry-ghtening
But they fought with (uh) expuht timing...
I'll bring the sake,
You bring the soju,
And he'll bring baijiu...
Sounds like a good ol' right wing par-tee
No confederate flag, but close enough.
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:57PM JST
@ Farmboy
Is the Island Swim going to become a new Olympic Event? Better start timing it...
Good one, But I think only SK can compete cause everyone seems to be using boats.
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:58PM JST
I meant: everyone Else seems to be using boats.
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:04PM JST
How bout ending it with a winner take all celebrity MMA deathmatch between the leaders of these right wing groups & pop bands? Might as well sell tickets that way.
PT24881 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:05PM JST
@serrano
"SerranoAUG. 18, 2012 - 03:44PM JST
Don't these people have anything better to do? Like help rebuild Tohoku?"
Absolutely right ! Did you see the nasty gesture on the face of the Tokyo official trying to swallow a strawberry ( supposed to be produced from local farm ) facing journalists' cameras in Tohoku ?
smithinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:11PM JST
I notice they're not threatening to go to Dokdo. Don't have their visas in order?
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:24PM JST
Maybe their enjoying the Senkaku scenery on their luxury flotillas a little too much...take in that fresh marine air boys. Oh and barf bags are on your right.
akkk1 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:38PM JST
So the Japanese nationalists are going to copy the Chinese? Let the water games begin!
I predict China will get the gold, S Korea the silver and Japan the bronze.
titaniumdioxide at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:59PM JST
I can see it WIII
missbatten at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:06PM JST
My Political Diary
Aug. 15 Wail about sorrow and unwisdom of war.
Aug. 18 Crank up territorial dispute with well-armed neighbors one more notch...
NeverSubmit at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:07PM JST
Big deal, Senkakus is already administered by Japan.
Now, swimming and sailing to Takeshima island or the Kuril islands would raise eyebrows.
The Chinese did what they believed in regardless of the threat of arrest, now that's a statement.
Sailing to an island already under your country's control, well that's no biggie.
shanabelle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:13PM JST
Silly season!
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:24PM JST
I notice they're not threatening to go to Dokdo. Don't have their visas in order?
Smithinjapan,
Do you really want to see a war? You seem very anxious for one.
lucabrasi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:47PM JST
Good to see people fighting the stereotypical "Japan just copies" image. I mean, nobody else has sailed to a disputed island, claiming sovereignty in the last few days, have they?
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:00PM JST
Don't come back! They can stay there as long as they like.
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:10PM JST
So if the do swim to shore, will they be deported somewhere nice the next day?
maxjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:12PM JST
@SunnysideUp Koreans and Chinese may be intelligent. But Japanese are surely NOT stupid...;)
cracaphat at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:20PM JST
As Mills Lane would say," Let's get it on." About time Japan took it their antagonists.This
rolling over to China and S.Korea along with Russia is totally and unequivocally
unacceptable.Barring that despot Ishihara,I'll take any leader with some gumption
to stop this kowtowing.
the-grouch at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:23PM JST
This is just so silly on many levels....like little boys fighting for the only toy in the schoolyard. My island, no MY island, NO MY island etc...
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:25PM JST
This rolling over to China and S.Korea along with Russia is totally and unequivocally unacceptable.
Unacceptable to whom? Only a nationalist would say such a thing. Nobody else really cares.
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:26PM JST
This is just so silly on many levels....like little boys fighting for the only toy in the schoolyard. My island, no MY island, NO MY island etc...
It's really sad that these countries never managed to grow up after a certain age...
lucabrasi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:34PM JST
It's really sad that these countries never managed to grow up after a certain age...
Unlike, say the UK. (Spain and Gibraltar, Argentina and the Falklands, Ireland and Ulster, Guatemala and Belize etc etc).
ubikwit at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:52PM JST
仲良くしようよ!
Naka yoku shyohyo!
Ali Khan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:17PM JST
The world is watch you, you should set a dignified and respectful example in your reply to china and Korea, if you did the same thing what they did, then there will be no difference
Ali Khan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:22PM JST
japan should sail a peaceful message
Sir_Edgar at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:28PM JST
Why the "emotional" reaction, Japan?
sf2k at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:30PM JST
Sure you could let it go. You already claim it and control it so going there is like you have something to prove that you do not. I do believe this is covered in TheOatmeal's case for irony http://theoatmeal.com/comics/irony Oi...
The kids are spiraling ever downward. Up to 150 so the next country in the round robin play will double or triple the number, and so on...
tokyostyle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:40PM JST
according to the latest china's btv news, those people are still in tokyo protesting to get a permission from japanese government. will they able to hop on the boat at least? or japanese bravery dissipates? lol
Pukey2 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:41PM JST
Around 150 people, including Japanese lawmakers and nationalist campaigners, were preparing Saturday to sail to islands
Yasushi Watanabe, of nationalist group Gambare Nippon
The Olympics are over, mate.
Pukey2 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:43PM JST
smith:
I notice they're not threatening to go to Dokdo.
They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles.
danalawton1@yahoo.com at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:47PM JST
China is trying to bully Japan into better gas and mineral concessions or even outright ownership of these islands.... but the Japanese will not be bullied. If this does continue.... at some point it will light a fire under Japan and then the Chinese will see Japan's full resolve.
Patric Spohn at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:49PM JST
Extremely untimely event that could lead to war.
smithinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:55PM JST
Pukey: "They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles."
Ya think? I was being sarcastic.
Anyway, leave it to the Japanese to copy the Chinese.
dazzinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:02PM JST
Dude that was funny as hell!!!!! BWHAHAHAHA
"Everybody was kung-fu fighting, Those cats were fast as lightning, In fact it was a little bit fry-ghtening But they fought with (uh) expuht timing...
I'll bring the sake, You bring the soju, And he'll bring baijiu...
Sounds like a good ol' right wing par-tee No confederate flag, but close enough.
dazzinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:04PM JST
Also thought this!!!....it could happen....couple of dipshits start this off...and it just turns nasty!!!
"Extremely untimely event that could lead to war."
Terry Tibbs at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:40PM JST
Always the same pathetic news.
FernandoUchiyama at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:46PM JST
Now is the right time to take advantage on these three countries. While China, Korea and Japan is playing like kindergarden, the USA should take advantage selling the things that the countries will not buy from each other
anymore.
Common guys, nobody gain anything fighting like this. Asian nations should grow up.
tamanegi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:50PM JST
NK must be laughing their a***s off!
CrazyJoe at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:54PM JST
Why is Ozawa Ichiro so quiet?
gaijinfo at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:56PM JST
100 Koreans
100 Japanese
100 Chinese
Battle Royal - Senkaku
The_True at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:08PM JST
Pukey: "They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles."
They won't go near the Kuriles, because they know the Russians will sink the boat with then inside, they idiot right wing know who not to mess with.
OssanAmerica at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:28PM JST
smithinjapanAug. 18, 2012 - 04:11PM JST
I notice they're not threatening to go to Dokdo. Don't have their visas in order?
No they aren't as immature or belligerent as South Koreans, prefering to to resolve the issue in a civilized
manner, something South Korea is evading while simply barking "it's mine, it's mine!".
DoLittleBeLate at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:54PM JST
Nothing civilized in anything these mentally unstable Japanese facists may come up. Always overreacting on silly things.
Gaijinfo beat me to it - this has "Battle Royale" written all over it. Bunch of eternal jr high school kids mucking about when there are much more pressing issues in Japan, this is just sad.
How about using 10% of that energy for preventing nuclear waste from entering children's food?
oldsanno at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:07PM JST
Facts
The Japanese sail to Senkaku was planned before the HK sail.
The HK activists said they wanted to get there before the Japanese.
So HK was reacting to Japanese plans.
Japanese did not copy.
Kabukilover at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:10PM JST
Gambare Nippon? This is getting silly.
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:15PM JST
Please put literature source/article backing any claims of "facts" before claiming "facts".
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:22PM JST
If and I mean If there was a battle royale... There was also be a gang bang of China and South Korea banging Japan. Then Taiwan could step in a get their isles back.
presto345 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:31PM JST
This is so dumb. What are these sickos going to achieve? Only more animosity.
GW at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:37PM JST
Well as I always say, if the yanks ever decide to pull out of Japan or Japan asks them to leave THEN its time to leave these isles, its perfrctly clear if Japan Korea & China are left alone it will get stupid, nasty pretty quick these 3 in the sand box are utterly incapable of getting along
just-a-bigguy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:54PM JST
Those Hong Kong Diayoutai 'raiders' said they will return in October!
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 11:40PM JST
OssanAmerica
No they aren't as immature or belligerent as South Koreans, prefering to to resolve the issue in a civilized manner, something South Korea is evading while simply barking "it's mine, it's mine!".
I wouldn't call this move mature at all, and Japan has been doing the same thing that you accuse SK of doing.
Japan really needs to stop deluding itself and think itself as so "mature" and "rational" when I have not seen a single mature or rational move from Japan.
Marion Wm Steele at Aug. 18, 2012 - 11:42PM JST
Know this; First and foremost, Senkaku was the possesion of the Kingdom of the Ryukyus, but Japan annexed the whole of the Kingdom and I hoped the Cairo Accords was going to give the Kingdom of the Ryukyus, but greedy Japan is still fighting to keep all the lands they took by "violence or greed" - now, the Ryukyuans get along very well with the Chinese and they would be content to share the Senkakus with China and it could mean great monies to Okinawa, but Japan continues to build a scab on its nose and Japan is still angry over the Kuriles etc and they flirt with an angry China who just might spank them. Frankly , I am on China's side. (I also love the Ryukyuan people.)
Sir_Edgar at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:22AM JST
This BBC map seems to show that the Diaoyutai Islands is closer to the continental shelf of China and Taiwan:
The Diaoyu islands issue is the leftover of WWII. China will get back what it had lost in the past.
YuriOtani at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:50AM JST
Marion a lot of these people and the boats are from Okinawa. So you are against Okinawa people going to another part of their islands? If China gets these islands, then the fight will be over the rest of the islands. We do not want to be Chinese!
nigelboy at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:58AM JST
You can argue continental shelf as a basis for EEZ in the ocean but you cannot use this claim to determine the sovereignty of a land territory. Besides, the recent ITLS decision between bangladesh and Myanmar basically ruled that the median line is the principle for dividing ocean EEZ.
wtfjapan at Aug. 19, 2012 - 01:38AM JST
too wright Never Submit, let see them try sail too or even land on Takeshima or Kuril islands, me thinks they wouldnt have the gonads. LOL
Bill Hickey at Aug. 19, 2012 - 02:35AM JST
Very silly people.
Nationalists are always silly at first, then effective, then deadly..... Don't fall for this fascist crap again Japan.
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 02:46AM JST
"Nationalists"? What on Earth do "nationalists" have to do with anything?
No doubt this is state sponsored. So the government paid for a random selection of pathetic short men with equally silly inferiority complexes to get shipped out to the middle of nowhere, so they can prance around with megaphones in hand, pissing on trees, pretending to have testicles, and and whinging about "omae" and "kimi" a lot.
Yet, I don't see the National Front marching around outside of the Ecuadorian embassy shouting about Assange. Learn from a real country and please... grow up Japan.
mountainpear at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:09AM JST
@Marion Wm Steele
What are you going on about? Okinawa whether you like it or not is part of Japan. I'm not opposed to Okinawan independence but that is another issue! You seem to think that an independent Okinawa would have a great relationship with China. Think again! I used to work in China and have been told by many times by Chinese that Okinawa ALSO belongs to China! There is a whole lot of aggression towards Japan coming from young people in China, encouraged of course by the government. Always a good way for the government to divert attention away from domestic problems.
The Senkakus were handed back to Japan by the U.S. in 1972 but the U.S. currently claims neutrality on this issue which is just ridiculous in my opinion. They use the threat of China to maintain their presence in Japan yet when Japanese territory is threatened they claim neutrality.
billyshears at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:18AM JST
No doubt this is state sponsored.
Ridiculous.
Yet, I don't see the National Front marching around outside of the Ecuadorian embassy shouting about Assange. Learn from a real country and please... grow up Japan.
The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party formed as a splinter group from the National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. It restricted membership to "indigenous British" people until a 2010 legal challenge to its constitution.[15]
The BNP advocates "firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home",[16] as well as the repeal of anti-discrimination legislation.
The BNP finished fifth in the 2008 London mayoral election with 5.2% of the vote and secured one of the London Assembly's 25 seats. In 2009 it won its first county council seats and two seats in the European Parliament. During the 2010 General Election, the BNP received 1.9% of the vote and failed to win any seats. The party's current leader, Nick Griffin,[17] is a former national organiser of the National Front.[18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BritishNationalParty
mountainpear at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:32AM JST
@Alex Tokyo
So you think the Chinese 'activists' weren't state sponsored then? No, the National Front is not in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy and why would they be? But I will tell you who is in front of the embassy. A bus load of British police just waiting to be given the go ahead to go in and arrest him!
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:39AM JST
The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party formed...
Wait, what does your random copy & paste of information from the Wikipedia BNP entry have to do with the National Front (not the BNP) NOT crying about Assange outside the Ecuadorian embassy, or with what a real 1st world country has to teach Japan? The fact is that Japanese government still has a lot to learn from the British, the Germans, etc: i.e. don't deploy a small gang of short angry men with silly penis envy every time another country upsets you. Stay classy and rise above it. Napoleon complex and megaphones will not get Japan anywhere in their juvenile disputes with China or Korea.
billyshears at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:47AM JST
"Classy" Britain, "rising above it", sent one of its biggest warships to the Falklands just last Friday. "The sight of one of the most formidable British warships ever built is a welcome one for islanders at a time of increased grandstanding between the UK and Argentina over sovereignty of the disputed territory."
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:57AM JST
But there's a MASSIVE difference between sending a real warship with fully trained, paid, qualified and pretty-much indifferent crew Vs. bankrolling a 2-bit glorified banana boat sailed by a hodgepodge motley crew of short angry "Nationalists" with a silly inferiority complex & misguided chip on their collective shoulder.
danalawton1@yahoo.com at Aug. 19, 2012 - 04:23AM JST
How do you say "kamikaze" in Chinese?
OssanAmerica at Aug. 19, 2012 - 06:10AM JST
Thomas AndersonAug. 18, 2012 - 11:40PM JST
"OssanAmerica
No they aren't as immature or belligerent as South Koreans, prefering to to resolve the issue in a civilized manner, something South Korea is evading while simply barking "it's mine, it's mine!".
I wouldn't call this move mature at all, and Japan has been doing the same thing that you accuse SK of doing.
Oh really? Is there a Coast Guard Station on the Senkakus? Has the J-PM landed there to make a political point?
For that matter are internal J-politics based on Korea bashing?
No, I'd say it's pretty clear that Soputh Koreea is immature.
Japan really needs to stop deluding itself and think itself as so "mature" and "rational" when I have not seen a single >mature or rational move from Japan.
That's only because you're biased. The entire rest of the woprld which couldn't care less about these rocks sees Japanacting rationally and in a civilzed manner while South Koreans are hotheaded and belligerent.
Sorry, but that's the reality. Global Korea? Maybe in 100 years.
honey at Aug. 19, 2012 - 07:46AM JST
I hope that Japan is not once again, Shooting it's own foot off.When China decides,they will give Japan the royal screw by limiting their access to their very lucrative markets.Come on Japan,start thinking outside the Sake box!
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Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:07PM JST
Here we go, First ROK 56 swimmers then China's 14 sailors and now 150 of Japan's folks in 20 boats sailing. I guess if you got to do it then do it big. Pity they are not allowed to land on the isles cause it's just enough people for a nice barbeque. hahahahaaa
SunnysideUp at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:28PM JST
Why not top what ROK did by having all 150 people swim to the islands?
the-grouch at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:31PM JST
LET THE GAMES BEGIN! So is China going to interfere in this event? If so are they going to arrest 150+ people and deport them as well? If China is correct about the ownership of these isles they WILL interfere and publicly execute everyone involved but since they cannot legally interfere ALL they can do is protest and complain. Has anyone seen the videos posted on liveleak on China's protest (among others)? They are really funded for these events! Do people take time off of work to protest? Do these people even work? They are protesting night and day for days in a row! For what?
PT24881 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:33PM JST
The Noda cabinet had 'allowed' them to do so before : right-wingers are allowed to sail / fish near the disputed islands, coastguards turned a blind eye if some / all of them land on the islands.
Sounded predictable step to follow given the cumulated grievances from the northern territories-Kuriles / Takeshima- Dokdo, Senkaku-Diaoyu remains the perfect stage to vent out grievances resulted from other face- losing incidents elsewhere.
Unfortunately, the situation becomes extremely dangerous this time. Reasons to have serious concerns if they do so.
tokyostyle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:33PM JST
there is a big difference utrack. koreans swam there and landed in the island because the island belongs to them chinese sailors landed in Diaoyu because the island belongs to chinese will the japanese nationalists able to land in Diaoyu? i don't think so.
TheXyco at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:38PM JST
Let the activist nationalists from whatever nation go and duke it melee-style out on these rocks for sake of their 'pride'. Meanwhile, the rest of us living in the 21st century in Japan, China, and Korea can conduct commerce as usual -- making our fortunes through civility and cooperation. Enjoy your "honor" -- I'll stake my own honor in what I can accomplish rather than how many "others" I can intimidate and irritate.
Serrano at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:44PM JST
Don't these people have anything better to do? Like help rebuild Tohoku?
"We could not just let it go."
Sure you could have. You just chose not to.
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:47PM JST
Is the Island Swim going to become a new Olympic Event? Better start timing it...
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:54PM JST
Everybody was kung-fu fighting, Those cats were fast as lightning, In fact it was a little bit fry-ghtening But they fought with (uh) expuht timing...
I'll bring the sake, You bring the soju, And he'll bring baijiu...
Sounds like a good ol' right wing par-tee No confederate flag, but close enough.
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:57PM JST
@ Farmboy
Good one, But I think only SK can compete cause everyone seems to be using boats.
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 03:58PM JST
I meant: everyone Else seems to be using boats.
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:04PM JST
How bout ending it with a winner take all celebrity MMA deathmatch between the leaders of these right wing groups & pop bands? Might as well sell tickets that way.
PT24881 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:05PM JST
@serrano
"SerranoAUG. 18, 2012 - 03:44PM JST Don't these people have anything better to do? Like help rebuild Tohoku?"
Absolutely right ! Did you see the nasty gesture on the face of the Tokyo official trying to swallow a strawberry ( supposed to be produced from local farm ) facing journalists' cameras in Tohoku ?
smithinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:11PM JST
I notice they're not threatening to go to Dokdo. Don't have their visas in order?
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:24PM JST
Maybe their enjoying the Senkaku scenery on their luxury flotillas a little too much...take in that fresh marine air boys. Oh and barf bags are on your right.
akkk1 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:38PM JST
So the Japanese nationalists are going to copy the Chinese? Let the water games begin!
I predict China will get the gold, S Korea the silver and Japan the bronze.
titaniumdioxide at Aug. 18, 2012 - 04:59PM JST
I can see it WIII
missbatten at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:06PM JST
My Political Diary Aug. 15 Wail about sorrow and unwisdom of war. Aug. 18 Crank up territorial dispute with well-armed neighbors one more notch...
NeverSubmit at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:07PM JST
Big deal, Senkakus is already administered by Japan.
Now, swimming and sailing to Takeshima island or the Kuril islands would raise eyebrows.
The Chinese did what they believed in regardless of the threat of arrest, now that's a statement.
Sailing to an island already under your country's control, well that's no biggie.
shanabelle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:13PM JST
Silly season!
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:24PM JST
Smithinjapan,
Do you really want to see a war? You seem very anxious for one.
lucabrasi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 05:47PM JST
Good to see people fighting the stereotypical "Japan just copies" image. I mean, nobody else has sailed to a disputed island, claiming sovereignty in the last few days, have they?
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:00PM JST
Don't come back! They can stay there as long as they like.
Farmboy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:10PM JST
So if the do swim to shore, will they be deported somewhere nice the next day?
maxjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:12PM JST
@SunnysideUp Koreans and Chinese may be intelligent. But Japanese are surely NOT stupid...;)
cracaphat at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:20PM JST
As Mills Lane would say," Let's get it on." About time Japan took it their antagonists.This rolling over to China and S.Korea along with Russia is totally and unequivocally unacceptable.Barring that despot Ishihara,I'll take any leader with some gumption to stop this kowtowing.
the-grouch at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:23PM JST
This is just so silly on many levels....like little boys fighting for the only toy in the schoolyard. My island, no MY island, NO MY island etc...
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:25PM JST
Unacceptable to whom? Only a nationalist would say such a thing. Nobody else really cares.
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:26PM JST
It's really sad that these countries never managed to grow up after a certain age...
lucabrasi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:34PM JST
Unlike, say the UK. (Spain and Gibraltar, Argentina and the Falklands, Ireland and Ulster, Guatemala and Belize etc etc).
ubikwit at Aug. 18, 2012 - 06:52PM JST
仲良くしようよ!
Naka yoku shyohyo!
Ali Khan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:17PM JST
The world is watch you, you should set a dignified and respectful example in your reply to china and Korea, if you did the same thing what they did, then there will be no difference
Ali Khan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:22PM JST
japan should sail a peaceful message
Sir_Edgar at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:28PM JST
Why the "emotional" reaction, Japan?
sf2k at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:30PM JST
Sure you could let it go. You already claim it and control it so going there is like you have something to prove that you do not. I do believe this is covered in TheOatmeal's case for irony http://theoatmeal.com/comics/irony Oi...
The kids are spiraling ever downward. Up to 150 so the next country in the round robin play will double or triple the number, and so on...
tokyostyle at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:40PM JST
according to the latest china's btv news, those people are still in tokyo protesting to get a permission from japanese government. will they able to hop on the boat at least? or japanese bravery dissipates? lol
Pukey2 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:41PM JST
The Olympics are over, mate.
Pukey2 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:43PM JST
smith:
They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles.
danalawton1@yahoo.com at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:47PM JST
China is trying to bully Japan into better gas and mineral concessions or even outright ownership of these islands.... but the Japanese will not be bullied. If this does continue.... at some point it will light a fire under Japan and then the Chinese will see Japan's full resolve.
Patric Spohn at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:49PM JST
Extremely untimely event that could lead to war.
smithinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 07:55PM JST
Pukey: "They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles."
Ya think? I was being sarcastic.
Anyway, leave it to the Japanese to copy the Chinese.
dazzinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:02PM JST
Dude that was funny as hell!!!!! BWHAHAHAHA
"Everybody was kung-fu fighting, Those cats were fast as lightning, In fact it was a little bit fry-ghtening But they fought with (uh) expuht timing...
I'll bring the sake, You bring the soju, And he'll bring baijiu...
Sounds like a good ol' right wing par-tee No confederate flag, but close enough.
dazzinjapan at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:04PM JST
Also thought this!!!....it could happen....couple of dipshits start this off...and it just turns nasty!!!
"Extremely untimely event that could lead to war."
Terry Tibbs at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:40PM JST
Always the same pathetic news.
FernandoUchiyama at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:46PM JST
Now is the right time to take advantage on these three countries. While China, Korea and Japan is playing like kindergarden, the USA should take advantage selling the things that the countries will not buy from each other anymore.
Common guys, nobody gain anything fighting like this. Asian nations should grow up.
tamanegi at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:50PM JST
NK must be laughing their a***s off!
CrazyJoe at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:54PM JST
Why is Ozawa Ichiro so quiet?
gaijinfo at Aug. 18, 2012 - 08:56PM JST
100 Koreans 100 Japanese 100 Chinese
Battle Royal - Senkaku
The_True at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:08PM JST
Pukey: "They can't because they know South Korea are controlling the islands. Just like they wouldn't swim to the Southern Kuriles."
They won't go near the Kuriles, because they know the Russians will sink the boat with then inside, they idiot right wing know who not to mess with.
OssanAmerica at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:28PM JST
No they aren't as immature or belligerent as South Koreans, prefering to to resolve the issue in a civilized manner, something South Korea is evading while simply barking "it's mine, it's mine!".
DoLittleBeLate at Aug. 18, 2012 - 09:54PM JST
Nothing civilized in anything these mentally unstable Japanese facists may come up. Always overreacting on silly things.
Gaijinfo beat me to it - this has "Battle Royale" written all over it. Bunch of eternal jr high school kids mucking about when there are much more pressing issues in Japan, this is just sad.
How about using 10% of that energy for preventing nuclear waste from entering children's food?
oldsanno at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:07PM JST
Facts
Kabukilover at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:10PM JST
Gambare Nippon? This is getting silly.
ohayo206 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:15PM JST
Please put literature source/article backing any claims of "facts" before claiming "facts".
Utrack at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:22PM JST
If and I mean If there was a battle royale... There was also be a gang bang of China and South Korea banging Japan. Then Taiwan could step in a get their isles back.
presto345 at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:31PM JST
This is so dumb. What are these sickos going to achieve? Only more animosity.
GW at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:37PM JST
Well as I always say, if the yanks ever decide to pull out of Japan or Japan asks them to leave THEN its time to leave these isles, its perfrctly clear if Japan Korea & China are left alone it will get stupid, nasty pretty quick these 3 in the sand box are utterly incapable of getting along
just-a-bigguy at Aug. 18, 2012 - 10:54PM JST
Those Hong Kong Diayoutai 'raiders' said they will return in October!
Thomas Anderson at Aug. 18, 2012 - 11:40PM JST
OssanAmerica
I wouldn't call this move mature at all, and Japan has been doing the same thing that you accuse SK of doing.
Japan really needs to stop deluding itself and think itself as so "mature" and "rational" when I have not seen a single mature or rational move from Japan.
Marion Wm Steele at Aug. 18, 2012 - 11:42PM JST
Know this; First and foremost, Senkaku was the possesion of the Kingdom of the Ryukyus, but Japan annexed the whole of the Kingdom and I hoped the Cairo Accords was going to give the Kingdom of the Ryukyus, but greedy Japan is still fighting to keep all the lands they took by "violence or greed" - now, the Ryukyuans get along very well with the Chinese and they would be content to share the Senkakus with China and it could mean great monies to Okinawa, but Japan continues to build a scab on its nose and Japan is still angry over the Kuriles etc and they flirt with an angry China who just might spank them. Frankly , I am on China's side. (I also love the Ryukyuan people.)
Sir_Edgar at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:22AM JST
This BBC map seems to show that the Diaoyutai Islands is closer to the continental shelf of China and Taiwan:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19303931
sheetu at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:35AM JST
The Diaoyu islands issue is the leftover of WWII. China will get back what it had lost in the past.
YuriOtani at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:50AM JST
Marion a lot of these people and the boats are from Okinawa. So you are against Okinawa people going to another part of their islands? If China gets these islands, then the fight will be over the rest of the islands. We do not want to be Chinese!
nigelboy at Aug. 19, 2012 - 12:58AM JST
You can argue continental shelf as a basis for EEZ in the ocean but you cannot use this claim to determine the sovereignty of a land territory. Besides, the recent ITLS decision between bangladesh and Myanmar basically ruled that the median line is the principle for dividing ocean EEZ.
wtfjapan at Aug. 19, 2012 - 01:38AM JST
too wright Never Submit, let see them try sail too or even land on Takeshima or Kuril islands, me thinks they wouldnt have the gonads. LOL
Bill Hickey at Aug. 19, 2012 - 02:35AM JST
Very silly people.
Nationalists are always silly at first, then effective, then deadly..... Don't fall for this fascist crap again Japan.
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 02:46AM JST
"Nationalists"? What on Earth do "nationalists" have to do with anything?
No doubt this is state sponsored. So the government paid for a random selection of pathetic short men with equally silly inferiority complexes to get shipped out to the middle of nowhere, so they can prance around with megaphones in hand, pissing on trees, pretending to have testicles, and and whinging about "omae" and "kimi" a lot.
Yet, I don't see the National Front marching around outside of the Ecuadorian embassy shouting about Assange. Learn from a real country and please... grow up Japan.
mountainpear at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:09AM JST
@Marion Wm Steele What are you going on about? Okinawa whether you like it or not is part of Japan. I'm not opposed to Okinawan independence but that is another issue! You seem to think that an independent Okinawa would have a great relationship with China. Think again! I used to work in China and have been told by many times by Chinese that Okinawa ALSO belongs to China! There is a whole lot of aggression towards Japan coming from young people in China, encouraged of course by the government. Always a good way for the government to divert attention away from domestic problems.
The Senkakus were handed back to Japan by the U.S. in 1972 but the U.S. currently claims neutrality on this issue which is just ridiculous in my opinion. They use the threat of China to maintain their presence in Japan yet when Japanese territory is threatened they claim neutrality.
billyshears at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:18AM JST
Ridiculous.
The British National Party (BNP) is a far-right political party formed as a splinter group from the National Front by John Tyndall in 1982. It restricted membership to "indigenous British" people until a 2010 legal challenge to its constitution.[15] The BNP advocates "firm but voluntary incentives for immigrants and their descendants to return home",[16] as well as the repeal of anti-discrimination legislation. The BNP finished fifth in the 2008 London mayoral election with 5.2% of the vote and secured one of the London Assembly's 25 seats. In 2009 it won its first county council seats and two seats in the European Parliament. During the 2010 General Election, the BNP received 1.9% of the vote and failed to win any seats. The party's current leader, Nick Griffin,[17] is a former national organiser of the National Front.[18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BritishNationalParty
mountainpear at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:32AM JST
@Alex Tokyo So you think the Chinese 'activists' weren't state sponsored then? No, the National Front is not in front of the Ecuadorian Embassy and why would they be? But I will tell you who is in front of the embassy. A bus load of British police just waiting to be given the go ahead to go in and arrest him!
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:39AM JST
Wait, what does your random copy & paste of information from the Wikipedia BNP entry have to do with the National Front (not the BNP) NOT crying about Assange outside the Ecuadorian embassy, or with what a real 1st world country has to teach Japan? The fact is that Japanese government still has a lot to learn from the British, the Germans, etc: i.e. don't deploy a small gang of short angry men with silly penis envy every time another country upsets you. Stay classy and rise above it. Napoleon complex and megaphones will not get Japan anywhere in their juvenile disputes with China or Korea.
billyshears at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:47AM JST
"Classy" Britain, "rising above it", sent one of its biggest warships to the Falklands just last Friday. "The sight of one of the most formidable British warships ever built is a welcome one for islanders at a time of increased grandstanding between the UK and Argentina over sovereignty of the disputed territory."
Alex Tokyo at Aug. 19, 2012 - 03:57AM JST
But there's a MASSIVE difference between sending a real warship with fully trained, paid, qualified and pretty-much indifferent crew Vs. bankrolling a 2-bit glorified banana boat sailed by a hodgepodge motley crew of short angry "Nationalists" with a silly inferiority complex & misguided chip on their collective shoulder.
danalawton1@yahoo.com at Aug. 19, 2012 - 04:23AM JST
How do you say "kamikaze" in Chinese?
OssanAmerica at Aug. 19, 2012 - 06:10AM JST
Oh really? Is there a Coast Guard Station on the Senkakus? Has the J-PM landed there to make a political point? For that matter are internal J-politics based on Korea bashing? No, I'd say it's pretty clear that Soputh Koreea is immature.
That's only because you're biased. The entire rest of the woprld which couldn't care less about these rocks sees Japanacting rationally and in a civilzed manner while South Koreans are hotheaded and belligerent. Sorry, but that's the reality. Global Korea? Maybe in 100 years.
honey at Aug. 19, 2012 - 07:46AM JST
I hope that Japan is not once again, Shooting it's own foot off.When China decides,they will give Japan the royal screw by limiting their access to their very lucrative markets.Come on Japan,start thinking outside the Sake box!