Denver teens' travel stirs terror appeal concerns

Shows why Kerry's silly trips to Indonesia and similar are so futile. time to call time on the "War on Terror" and see if less engagement works better than the current policy of "whack a mole".

Shocking stuff

Shows how easily teenagers and young adults can be mis-guided and swayed into just about anything.

The two Austrian gils thought it was a good idea, now pregnant and back in Austria.

Yesterday the scumbag in Ottawa decided to self join.

"Whack A Mole" is not effective as suggested but I don't think less engagement will either. Just look at these guys they are the free worlds nightmare. Worse then Kim Jong Il, Castro, Gaddafi and Iran ever was.

"Whack A Mole" is not effective as suggested but I don't think less engagement will either

If you cannot see that action on the ground will kill more innocents and cause more hatred of those attacking, you are blind. And if you cannot recognize that not engaging, and therefore not killing innoncents would not create more hatred of those attacking... Well as I said, you're blind.

It's simple logic. Kill innocent people, and their friends and acquaintances will hate you. Hatred of a weak group against a strong group breeds terrorism.

The girls thought ISIS members hold hands and sing Disney songs? It must have been very convincing for them to plot it out and go! I'm glad they were brought back, they would have become comfort women of ISIS I'm sure.

Three teens act like fools, and the Right determines the whole world is unsafe.

When did conservatives become such pearl-clutching woosies?

My question is, how did these girls buy the tickets and who helped them to board the plane without an adult? Something is a bit fishy here. Someone within the Denver closed Somali Muslim community helped them and in time we will know who it was and hopefully they are dragged off to Gitmo!

Time for the western world to stat putting pressure on Turkey to help stop the flood of young fools traveling into the hands of those monsters.

Maybe it's time for the West to wake up and start clamping down on extremist within the Muslim communities in their borders!

"Social media has played a very significant role in the recruitment of young people,"

Ah yeah, the appeal of being married off to a Jihadi fighter was so much that these girls decided to runoff and get hitched. Hey, if they were lucky they could also have join the all female Khansa'a brigade! What fun they would have had patrolling the streets in cities controlled by ISIS and enforcing Sharia law! Imagine all the beatings, beheads and brutality they could have dished out! But, sadly for these privileged US raised girls, that dream was dashed by US law enforcement.

These girls and many others have been enticed to join this Jihad for some reason. Why is it this easy for Muslim girls to jump at the chance? Could it be that they live in closed communities that don't really allow those girls to fully integrate into the so-called melting pot? There has to be a reason why so many young Muslim girls and boys have upped and leapt at the chance to join this Jihad. But, the PC controlled media would rather not discuss those reasons because it might hurt someone's feelings.

StrangerlandOct. 23, 2014 - 08:18PM JST If you cannot see that action on the ground will kill more innocents and cause more hatred of those attacking, you are blind

So you would rather just close your eyes to the genocide being committed by ISIS and allow them to continue having their fun?

Next, this may come as a shock to you, but many times there are spotters on the ground directing where those bombs should be dropped.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/11131948/British-special-forces-join-fighters-on-Isil-front-line.html

There is a reason that they are called Special Forces, it's because they do special things you would never dream of doing. When the nation's militaries want you to know what they are planning they will tell you.

StrangerlandOct. 23, 2014 - 08:18PM JST It's simple logic. Kill innocent people, and their friends and acquaintances will hate you. Hatred of a weak group against a strong group breeds terrorism.

Every time I hear Liberals making this defense the words Rwanda Genocide comes to mind! The world and US under Clinton sat by as hundreds of thousands of Africans were slaughtered just because of your logic.

In all conflicts there are civilian casualties and no more so as in Syria and Iraq. And here is a big fat surprise for you, ISIS has been stoning, crucifying, gunning down and beheading civilians by the truckload. Where is your Liberal sympathy for those victims? Or is your sympathy only for the human shields that ISIS is using?

http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/isis-living-high-life-in-raqqa-using-yazidi-females-as-human-shields/2014/09/22/

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pentagon-isis-using-local-population-syria-human-shields-1466869

JTDanManOct. 24, 2014 - 12:29AM JST Three teens act like fools, and the Right determines the whole world is unsafe. When did conservatives become such pearl-clutching woosies?

Ahhhhhh, your right, these girls were just being silly. Hey, what if they would have arrived in Syria and been married off to some butcher? Who cares, right?

These were just kids being kids! Hey, maybe next time the US should just close their eyes and allow the next batch of silly kids to go off and act foolish!

But wait, if the US did do that you would then start condemning it for allowing kids to join those butchers! And you would be complaining that the Conservatives sat by and did nothing!

As usual the Left complains about something. You guys are the most angry crowd, you can't be happy because if you did you would be at a loss.

Damn them if they do and damn them more if they don't should be your motto.

Every time I hear Liberals making this defense the words Rwanda Genocide comes to mind! The world and US under Clinton sat by as hundreds of thousands of Africans were slaughtered just because of your logic.

In all conflicts there are civilian casualties and no more so as in Syria and Iraq. And here is a big fat surprise for you, ISIS has been stoning, crucifying, gunning down and beheading civilians by the truckload. Where is your Liberal sympathy for those victims? Or is your sympathy only for the human shields that ISIS is using?

If there is to be action taken against ISIS, it should be taken by the UN, not by an country unilaterally, or as a group.

But really, this is a Middle-Eastern problem, and should be handled by the Middle East. Western meddling will only cause more hatred against the countries who are invading.

@JTDan

Three teens act like fools, and the Right determines the whole world is unsafe.

Maybe, after the botched attempt by radical Islamists in Australia to kidnap and behead someone, anyone and film the grisly act or the shooting the other day in Ottawa or how about the last couple of beheadings? Oh, and then there is the guy that beheaded his co-worker a few weeks ago, but for you guys, it's work place violence or disgruntled workers. So it's actually the left that WANTS to drive home the narrative that nothing is going on while in other countries, more sober and rational leaders are saying the absolute truth and calling it what it all for what it is: radical terrorism. Reality determines these current events.

When did conservatives become such pearl-clutching woosies?

More like, when will Democrats grow a spine and some serious *****!

@strange

If there is to be action taken against ISIS, it should be taken by the UN, not by an country unilaterally, or as a group.

It will NEVER, EVER happen, the useless UN can't even agree on what actual terrorism is. Besides, we don't need a consensus to ask permission if we are allowed to protect ourselves or not. It's just mind numbing hearing that garbage!

But really, this is a Middle-Eastern problem, and should be handled by the Middle East. Western meddling will only cause more hatred against the countries who are invading.

First, these guys won't do anything, they never have and never will, the radicals will destroy, enslave, torture, kill anyone that stands in their way, even the moderates don't have the numbers or frankly the will to stop these people. They already hate us, they have hated the West for thousands of years, so it's not like the hatred will subside in any way. Barack Hussein Obama tried that in Cairo, remember? Didn't work out so well for him and all of us.

If there is to be action taken against ISIS, it should be taken by the UN, not by an country unilaterally, or as a group.

It will NEVER, EVER happen, the useless UN can't even agree on what actual terrorism is.

Erm, Afghanistan anyone?

Besides, we don't need a consensus to ask permission if we are allowed to protect ourselves or not. It's just mind numbing hearing that garbage!

I would agree if you were speaking of protecting yourselves. When someone invades your country, you have the right to attack without question. But you are speaking of invading sovereign nations, not defending yourself. In which case, you most definitely should go in with the backing of the UN, and not unilaterally.

First, these guys won't do anything, they never have and never will, the radicals will destroy, enslave, torture, kill anyone that stands in their way, even the moderates don't have the numbers or frankly the will to stop these people.

Maybe so, but that's still their prerogative. I don't see the US invading North Korea to save the people there, who have been suffering the abuses under the Kim regime for three generations. There are plenty of other despots elsewhere in the world as well.

The fact is, no one asked for Team America World Police.

They already hate us, they have hated the West for thousands of years, so it's not like the hatred will subside in any way.

Maybe not, but in invading and killing innocents, you are increasing the hatred, and justifiably so. For every innocent person you kill, you create someone who has every right to hate your country.

Some posters never will get it. Leave them alone and they will grow to be a larger monster as we seen with ISIS being left alone and labeled JV by Obama. They destroyed communities, lives and many ancient structures. They kill any and all who don't fit their mold and does that sound like the Nazi's in 19333-1945?

But many 'ostriches' (liberals) have their head in the sand hiding from reality. And to top it off personally try to offend others who do not see the reality in the situations. Sound familiar? Would violence come next? Scarry!

Some posters never will get it.

You got that right. Even when presented with logical reasons about why unilateral invasion decreases safety rather than increasing it, and even when presented with the proper process by which assistance should be provided, some posters still just want to warmonger and be the world police.

They'll just never get it.

Couldn't be further from the truth Strangerland! They were left alone. Clearly that was wrong. They strengthened and became more murderous and a greater threat.

Seems like leaving ISIS alone was the wrong thing to do....as you suggest. If you think leave them alone in the region they will soon calm down and live peacefully, keep on dreaming! Facts are facts. Please review them with an open mind and digest the reality.

Couldn't be further from the truth Strangerland!

Oh, I think your post just proves the truth of my post - that some posters will never get it.

@stranger

Erm, Afghanistan anyone?

Where Obama had 3 surges and had more people killed under his watch.

I would agree if you were speaking of protecting yourselves. When someone invades your country, you have the right to attack without question.

And when that country or a religious faction of that is trying to destroy because of who you are, your way of life, values or how you believe. Then you have the right to fight back.

But you are speaking of invading sovereign nations, not defending yourself. In which case, you most definitely should go in with the backing of the UN, and not unilaterally.

Absolutely NOT, after dealing with radical Islam on a global scale, we have the right to root them out, take them out by any means necessary, but as long as the president is hesitant and wants to send a vague message and do tiny pin strikes, not only will he embolden the enemy, he's further encouraging them.

Maybe so, but that's still their prerogative. I don't see the US invading North Korea to save the people there, who have been suffering the abuses under the Kim regime for three generations. There are plenty of other despots elsewhere in the world as well.

Terrible analogy. NK is NOT trying to blow up, radicalize and is trying to kill us. Any country that has been trying to kill us so far has been dealt with.

The fact is, no one asked for Team America World Police.

They don't have to, we are like it or not.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danhodges/100282799/we-may-not-like-it-but-we-need-america-to-be-the-worlds-policeman/

I know this was a very painful article for Dan Hodges to write, but spoke the truth.

But if events of the past few months have shown us anything, it’s surely this. There is only one thing worse than the United States acting as the world’s policeman. And that’s the United States not acting as the world’s policeman. And today the United Nations is now as effective at enforcing peace and the rule of law as the old, defunct League. We spend a huge amount of time in this country debating the failings of the European Union. But compared to the UN, the EU is a model of excellence in international governance. Forget Jean-Claude Juncker and Herman Van Rompuy. In the course of human history there cannot have been a more ludicrous or hapless-looking figure bestriding the world stage than Ban Ki-moon. “Leave it to Dag,” people used to say about the legendary Swedish secretary general, Dag Hammarskjold. Today few world leaders would so much as leave their washing up to Ban. The UN is no longer fit for purpose. In fact, the UN quite clearly no longer has any idea what its purpose is. The best that can be said for that benighted organisation is that it’s morphed into an extension of the Red Cross. At its worst it’s morphed into a poor man’s international ACAS. Syria, Gaza, Nigeria, Libya, Iraq, Mali, Ukraine. The idea that the UN could have influence in any of these crisis zones would be laughable, if the events there weren’t so horrific. The ritualistic statements of support from Ban Ki-moon for the people of these regions have effectively become a death sentence.

Just some of what he said in his article.

Maybe not, but in invading and killing innocents, you are increasing the hatred, and justifiably so. For every innocent person you kill, you create someone who has every right to hate your country.

Yes, you keep saying that, I will submit to you that as long as the radical Jihadists continue to encourage attacks on the west, then we have to do everything in our power to displace or kill them. It's that simple.

They'll just never get it.

Most terrorists Never do!

Thanks for taking the time Bass... I have just too many distractions to reply elaborately.

They'll never get it! Sad state we are in. Just imagine if this were 1939, what many of these post would read. We supposedly progressed but some digressed.

Erm, Afghanistan anyone?

Where Obama had 3 surges and had more people killed under his watch.

What does that have to do with the fact that it was UN sanctioned and led?

Absolutely NOT, after dealing with radical Islam on a global scale, we have the right to root them out,

Only if you believe in 'might makes right'. Because you most certainly do not have that moral right.

NK is NOT trying to blow up, radicalize and is trying to kill us.

1) Yes they are! They regularly threaten to fire missiles at the US. They even test these missiles at times. They have nuclear weapons! Do you not read the news?

2) ISIS isn't trying to blow up, radicalize, or kill you. They are almost as far as you can get from the US geographically, and have made no overtures outside of their area.

Yes, you keep saying that, I will submit to you that as long as the radical Jihadists continue to encourage attacks on the west, then we have to do everything in our power to displace or kill them. It's that simple.

And by doing that, you only increase the likelihood of ISIS coming out of the Middle East and attacking you. When that happens, innocents will die in the US, and the burden will be on you and every other war-mongerer out there who is facilitating this situation to happen.

Funny thing is that a few months ago I put in an application to move into those apartments. It has a large African immigrant community there and it is considered low income housing for those making less than 44k a month single person (cost of living has gone up but wages are the same...). The waiting list is well over 6-7+ months long. I've lived in CO for well over 32 years and the apartment market is HORRIBLE compared to probably 2012 when that waiting list would have only been maybe a 1-2month wait.

When I went to apply to those apartments a lot of the immigrants looked Sudanese, Ethiopian, and I'm guessing a few from Libya and Nigeria. After seeing the type of people that live there and the culture that they bring with them it is not hard at all to see these girls being naïve to a fault with Islamic upbringing and some muslim parents refusal to integrate into US society.

@stranger

What does that have to do with the fact that it was UN sanctioned and led?

The UN wasn't leading anything. Ok, on paper perhaps.

Only if you believe in 'might makes right'. Because you most certainly do not have that moral right.

Depends on your definition of what moral is or what it means to you.

So you think getting OBL was wrong too, I guess. We went in unannounced. You think the Pakistanis would have given him up? I seriously doubt that!

1) Yes they are! They regularly threaten to fire missiles at the US. They even test these missiles at times. They have nuclear weapons! Do you not read the news?

They didn't come and bomb us, behead ANY US citizen, attack any of our national interests. Not even close.

2) ISIS isn't trying to blow up, radicalize, or kill you. They are almost as far as you can get from the US geographically, and have made no overtures outside of their area.

No, of course not, ISIS is a misunderstood of highly educated people that want to establish trade, technology and goods with the West and are a strict advocate in human, religious and woman's rights. The beheadings were done by Lucas THX studios as a NSA ploy to give them a bad name.

Yawn.....

And by doing that, you only increase the likelihood of ISIS coming out of the Middle East and attacking you.

Thought you said, they are not trying to kill us? Which is it?

When that happens, innocents will die in the US, and the burden will be on you and every other war-mongerer out there who is facilitating this situation to happen

So we should just leave them and hope to smoke a shisha and eat some dates with them?

What does that have to do with the fact that it was UN sanctioned and led?

The UN wasn't leading anything. Ok, on paper perhaps.

What are you talking about? In your hatred of the UN, you've obviously never actually looked at how it works, and what it does.

Depends on your definition of what moral is or what it means to you.

Isn't that the truth.

So you think getting OBL was wrong too, I guess.

Strawman much?

They didn't come and bomb us, behead ANY US citizen, attack any of our national interests. Not even close.

The only one of those that is true of ISIS is the beheading of one or two US citizens. Hardly an excuse to kill thousands of innocents.

And by doing that, you only increase the likelihood of ISIS coming out of the Middle East and attacking you.

Thought you said, they are not trying to kill us? Which is it?

I thought you were a journalist? How can you not understand the difference between past tense, present tense, future tense, and potential tense?

So we should just leave them and hope to smoke a shisha and eat some dates with them?

Strawman much?

What are you talking about? In your hatred of the UN, you've obviously never actually looked at how it works, and what it does. Strawman much?

I've been to the UN 3 times. Interesting place, more like .Cirque Do Soleil highly entertaining, you go home and reminisce about the good time you had. As for a strawman argument, why? Because it doesn't fit with your narrative?

The only one of those that is true of ISIS is the beheading of one or two US citizens. Hardly an excuse to kill thousands of innocents.

So you agree, we should send in ground troops to kill them, I think so as well.

I thought you were a journalist? How can you not understand the difference between past tense, present tense, future tense, and potential tense?

More like you just don't want to answer the question. Which is it? They are our friends, they want to kill us OR they want to have a smoke with us? You're all over the place. Again, what should we do about ISIS, because they are and they will try to kill us given the chance. What is your solution? I would like to hear from someone like yourself who has more expertise in the matter than ANY of Obama's senior generals, my bad. Lol