IS threatens to kill 2 Japanese hostages unless it receives $200 mil ransom

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  • -23

    u_s__reamer

    Will Abe go down in history as the prime minister who brought islamist terrorism to Japan?

  • 28

    onagagamo

    They shouldn't even be there in the first place.

  • 4

    smithinjapan

    "IS has murdered five Western hostages since August last year, but it is the first time that the jihadist group—which has seized swathes of Syria and neighboring Iraq—has threatened Japanese captives."

    You notice how this comes JUST after Abe's push to involve Japan in international disputes/wars, and specifically JUST after saying Japan would commit to the battle against IS? This is the same man who wants will guarantee that Japanese SDF start dying in other nations' wars, and claim he is doing it for peace.

    u_s__reamer: "Will Abe go down in history as the prime minister who brought islamist terrorism to Japan?"

    Yes, but not in Japan's history books, especially if he's at the helm of the white-washing. He'll proclaim himself the person who 'brought peace through revision of the constitution, changing of history to be more patriotic, and increased defense spending to counter the 'China threat''. Well done, Abe!

  • 21

    Farmboy

    I'm very sorry for the two men and their families. I don't think there is a good solution to this. The terrorists don't want the money, they want to make a point.

  • 16

    Frungy

    My condolences to the families. Unfortunately the government cannot simply hand over $200 million to any kidnapper.

    And please stop talking about religion. This isn't about religion, it is just about criminality.

  • 7

    davestrousers

    My condolences to the families. Unfortunately the government cannot simply hand over $200 million to any kidnapper.

    They're not dead yet. They might get rescued.

  • -2

    bfarm

    @genjuro,

    There are explanations to all of your questions that are all within a Google search done via your keyboard.

  • 0

    lucabrasi

    The problem is that Islam, in this horrible, twisted guise offers something to impoverished, otherwise hopeless young men, to cling to.

    The West needs to offer something better. Drones and bombs aren't the answer.

  • 1

    BurakuminDes

    Alarming news. Just hoping the Japanese govt. doesn't cave in and make the payment. Can anyone confirm if one of these hostages - Haruna - is the alleged "soldier of fortune" newhalf reported captured several months ago?

  • 14

    davestrousers

    @lucabrasi

    The problem is that Islam, in this horrible, twisted guise offers something to impoverished, otherwise hopeless young men, to cling to.

    Yeah, I could almost be swayed by that, but do you know the apparent background of that British guy in the video?

  • 5

    Mirai Hayashi

    I was surprised to see that Haruna Yukawa was still alive. I thought that they killed him last year. Really dumb for being in that area in the first place.

  • 19

    TravelingSales

    These people don't care about Abe. They will happily kill any infidel. Just like the 10 Japanese they killed in Algeria two years ago, or Salman Rushdie's Japanese translator.

  • -2

    smithinjapan

    lucabrasi: "The problem is that Islam, in this horrible, twisted guise offers something to impoverished, otherwise hopeless young men, to cling to."

    ALL religions offer something; it's up to the people how they choose to accept it, and violence and death are not limited to Islam. This is not about religion as much as it is just sick, evil people.

  • 3

    Cricky

    Money, 200 million that makes my god happy? Nice religion. Oops floating again. Thank god I have an AK47. These unbelieveres should be taught that there is 1 God and he is vindictive and angry. That's why we pray for forgiveness even if we didn't do anything.

  • 5

    tokyo-star

    Davetrousers: wasn't the guy a former rapper in the UK? he threw that away for this wtf

    BurakuminDes: it says in the article right there that it is the same guy.

  • 26

    harvey pekar

    I can't stand those who say Abe is bringing this down on Japan. Are you serious? So, Abe and other world leaders who aren't in the region should just say, let's turn our back to IS, maybe they'll just leave us alone and kill someone else's people.

    Are people really suggesting we turn our back to the horrific brutality IS and Boko Haram are doing to innocent people everyday? It's sad to think this modern world who once tackled those who are committing genocide now just issues sanctions on bank accounts.

    All so called democratic nations from all over the globe should unite, put petty squabbles aside, work together and stamp these threats out.

  • -32

    Yoshimi Onishi

    I might be accused of being selfish, but I cannot help wondering if we had a different, more peace loving prime minister at the helm of our goverment instead of war-loving Abe there might have been no threat from IS.

  • 1

    BurakuminDes

    @ Tokyo-star - thanks. I had assumed Haruna had already been executed. I guess even an 11th hour conversion to Islam won't save these poor souls. These barbarians are surprisingly media-savvy and will try and play the Abe administration for all they are worth...

  • 20

    Jimizo

    'And please stop talking about religion. This isn't about religion'

    The members of this group would beg to differ. They talk about religion quite a bit.

  • 1

    Nancy Snow

    Very strange to press Facebook Recommend button that then reads "You recommend IS threatens to kill 2 Japanese hostages unless it receives $200 mil ransom." Not recommending that outcome, of course! I'm afraid that this will not end well. Japanese government cannot pay $200 million to terrorists, same amount just pledged to help countries dealing with ISIS. The worst outcome here may be the biggest game changer of Abe's career.

  • 0

    tokyo-star

    Des, yeh I thought he had long been done for after seeing that video last year. Imagine the horror of captivity he has been through, even if he did bring it upon himself by traveling to a war-torn region with IS at the helm.

    Never heard of the other guy who got kidnapped, maybe more recent? I still remember wathcing the beheading of that other Japanese guy in Iraq about 7 years ago...stomach churning back then, but it is all over the media these days.

  • 2

    lucabrasi

    @daves and smith

    I see your point. But perhaps spiritual impoverishment is the point. I can easily see a disaffected young idiot falling for ISIS's propaganda. Like punk in the 70s. Only these people have guns... : (

  • -19

    u_s__reamer

    IS is fighting in a civil war, a power struggle beween Sunnis and Shias that is the inevitable result of the US/UK invasion of Iraq. The Japanese government would be wise to stay out of this fight. If not, more Japanese will be put in harm's way.

  • 0

    tokyo-star

    comments about the shadows in the Japanese channels. notice how the left guy and Jihadi John the shadow goes right, but the guy on the right, the shadow points the opposite direction. photochopped?

  • 16

    harvey pekar

    What are people saying? It's Abe's fault these two men were taken hostage? I am a card carrying member of the I Hate Abe Club, but to say this hostage situation by a group of terrorists is somehow pinned on him is absurd.

    So, by the logic I'm reading here, anyone who dares stand up to IS deserves to have their people executed on live TV? Serves them right for trying to intervene? That's a despicable attitude.

    What most comments on here tell me is we should let the bullies have their way, just ignore the problem or give them their space to let them do their thing and hopefully they'll stay out of our yard.

    Americans or Brits or Russians or French or any other nation who gets involved and tries to combat this group deserves to be attacked? Why?

  • 15

    keisuke A

    @Frungy:

    My condolences to the families. Unfortunately the government cannot simply hand over $200 million to any kidnapper. And please stop talking about religion. This isn't about religion, it is just about criminality.

    Couldn't agree more. If they'll give in to those terrorists demands this time, it will just be an incentive for more kidnapping and more ransom demands. Not to mention that ISIS deems every non-ISIS-style-Muslim (Japanese or not) as a potential target. Giving them money won't help in the slightest.

  • 20

    BNlightened

    How can people keep spouting off the nonsense that "this has nothing to do with religion" when these and other IS (Islamic State) terrorists begin every video with cries of "God is Great!" and they fight under a black flag that has "There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet" written on it in Arabic? Can you explain why they cite a certain religious book for justification for their actions, both in this incident and in most others, if "this has nothing to do with religion?" It's about as silly as saying that the Crusades "had nothing to do with religion."

    A perversion of religion? Perhaps. But "nothing to do with religion?" Come on...

  • 8

    luvin4real25

    somebody, somewhere, really have to step up and stop what these murderers are doing once and for all. alot of innocents died already and it seems like theyre not gonna stop unless somebody does.

  • -2

    tegomas

    The members of this group would beg to differ. They talk about religion quite a bit.

    Religion's merely the vehicle for them to indulge in their savagery. These terrorists go to extreme lengths to spin and distort their religious dogma to justify these atrocities.

    They are extremists, and extremism is bad, in whatever shape or form it comes in.

  • 3

    tokyo-star

    luvin, I'm sure leaders around the world are currently all ears for an effective solution. alas there is none.

    They are just fighting each other (shia/sunni) over something that happened 1400 years ago. what can everyone else in the modern world do about it? the world has moved in since mohammed and has become a hell of a lot more civilised.

  • -1

    lucabrasi

    They are clearly not true Muslims. They are under orders to kill kaffirs, not to ransome them...

  • 22

    Yubaru

    I might be accused of being selfish, but I cannot help wondering if we had a different, more peace loving prime minister at the helm of our goverment instead of war-loving Abe there might have been no threat from IS.

    This sounds like something a typical Japanese person would say along with, "Let's just all keep our heads in the sand and be ignorant about the rest of the world"

    Japan better get accustomed and wake up to the reality of the world around them. Nowhere is totally safe from terrorism, home-grown or otherwise.

  • 7

    turbotsat

    Go to those places as a foreigner, may as well wear a shirt with target painted on it, jump up and down and yell "Pick me! Pick me!"

    There's several hundred Japanese in past year who were murdered unexpectedly on the home islands and deserve more sympathy.

  • -2

    Yubaru

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/20/purported-isis-video-threatens-japanese-hostages-in-lieu-200m-ransom/

    Japan's Prime Minister vowed Tuesday to save the lives of two Japanese hostages threatened with beheading in an online video purportedly released by the Islamic State terror group.

    Abe better realize he isn't in Kansas anymore and think that he can just snap his fingers and people are going to listen.

    I hope that the Japanese people start to read through his charades.

  • -2

    neobios

    The big question is why did ISIS become so powerful all of sudden?

  • 12

    StormR

    Not the first Japanese to be kidnapped and beheaded on tv, there was another guy a few years ago who also was beheaded on tv in Iraq.

    Anyone who is not heavily supported by military is well advised to go no where near any borders of this hostile place.

    Naïve saying its because of abe, YOU need to understand some very simple realities, this war is something that every decent, righteous, modern, FREE nation needs to get involved in and sort out, if the world stands by idly thinking that this fight wont come to them then you are sadly mistaken and misguided.

    This scum in the deesert that calls itself isis is something that needs to be stopped, sitting on your hands saying lets leave them alone and they wont bother us is a really dumb idea.

    Seems to be that the last generation that stood up to evil ( Nazis ) have mostly all passed on now taking the lessons of what they went through with them, and the new generation have no idea about what the world faces here.

    Take a stand and make it a good one or face these people in you own homes and towns.

  • -15

    avigator

    That is what you get for stirring the pot. He is meddling in everything around the World. Busy body.

  • -4

    bjohnson23

    Regardless of Abe's push for constitution change, nationalistic views, and strengthening up the Self Defense Forces, this can be considered as an attack against Japan, of which Japan has the collective right to defend itself, but also US forces stationed in Japan are committed to protect Japan? Where are these forces? What are the leaders going to do to mobilize them against these terrorists.

  • 2

    Yubaru

    Where are these forces?

    You can answer your own question here by using your fingers on the keyboard and type your query into google.

    Enlighten yourself, and btw sounds like you must be Japanese is you don't know about what the US forces are doing right now against IS.

  • -1

    lostrune2

    Sure hope it's not connected to earlier news (http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/abe-pledges-200-mil-to-countries-fighting-islamic-state). Or just coincidence?

    No, it's not a coincidence, and the amount too.

    The moment Japan pledged financial aid to the people affected by ISIS, Japan became ISIS' enemy.

  • -13

    bruinfan

    Abe has brought this on Japan.

  • -5

    gokai_wo_maneku

    Now Japanese get an idea of what Abe really represents, and its consequences. Already Japanese dying.

  • 2

    Steve Fabricant

    200 millionl!!!?? Those guys must think they're in Silicon Valley or Wall Street. Where do they think they can park all that, not that they will ever see any of it on this earth.

  • 0

    souka

    looks more like these won't stop unless moderate believers can get together and decide on some changes to several scriptural verses, otherwise only prepare and be always on guard for the unknown.

  • -2

    toda97

    Islam is not to be blamed for this. Even the Muslims are being killed by the IS. May God save these two innocent Japanese men

  • 11

    Brainiac

    I wish YouTube and Facebook would block Islamic State and other terrorist groups. They depend heavily on YouTube to get their message out and get recruits.

  • 10

    MarkG

    Where is the protesting, the denouncing, the rejecting that these are not Muslims from the worlds Islamic community? At what percentage are they doing so? ISIS is Islamic and committing atrocities under the name of Allah. Recruiting under the name of Allah. I am not saying ALL Muslims are bad, I AM saying the Islamic faith is turning an looking away from these problems.

  • 6

    sensei258

    My sympathies to their families. $200 million that they will use to kill waaaaay more than two people. Not gonna happen.

  • 1

    wildwest

    No more Toyotas for ISIS!l dcum bags.

  • -11

    JoiceRojo

    It is just me, but, is this somewhat "forced"?

    What I mean is that the moment Japan made a movement, "magically appeared" Japanese Hostages ready to be beheaded, meaning that any other country that does something or says something against ISIS will have "hostages" beheaded?

    It is horrific, I know, but my intuition tells me that at least one of the Japanese hostages is muslim, ready to sacrifice himself, just to make a point.

    ISIS asking for money?, It sounded ridiculous, but then Japan is perceived as a nation with big money (despite what could happen inside), the ransom is ad hoc of the country,,,

  • 3

    Ron Barnes

    Japan my answer to this is get in and Wipe the lot of them out if you pay up You will only receive body bags with them with severed heads in The moment they entered tis Area knowing the Risks they were dead persons So I give my sympathy to their families but Nothing for stupidity to them.

  • 10

    NYtoday

    @harvey pekar

    Thanks for your calm, rational comment.

    Why those hostages were hanging in the killing zone is beyond his control. Yukawa Haruna has a very different background from what we think of an ordinary citizen.

    While it is completely okay to disgree with PM Abe or even hate him, many pure haters including J-media go extreme.

    To them, if Abe eats a ¥3500 pork curry, he is a war-loving nationalist and if he gets sick, he is an irresiponsible nut-job who also is a revisionist.

    Now if he vows to save those guys→ "WTF, Abe?! Look what our tax money he had thrown away turned into!!" If he doesn't vow to save those guys→"WTF, Abe?! He doesn't care innocent lives. This is just like imperial Japan. Nazi Abe!!"

    ...Can't win, hahaha!

  • 8

    harvey pekar

    First off, you can't pay them obviously. The money can be used as as proof to future recruits what they're doing is valid, the money will buy more weapons and prestige, and it'll set a horrifying precedent.

    And I'm not a fan of Abe's pledge of giving hundreds of millions of dollars to these countries, either. I can only imagine what this money will actually be spent on once it disappears into the hands of these corrupt leaders.

    When it comes to matters like IS or terrorists, I'm hopelessly idealistic. The Canadians are fighting IS, so are the Americans, Brits, Germans, French, Putin and so on, and I know you need the prominent Muslim leaders to join in as well, but if all of these countries that I know have intelligent rational people in them, if they could all just get together, devise a strategy to surround IS and wipe them out, it'd be awesome sign of international cooperation that hasn't been seen in decades.

  • 2

    Thunderbird2

    According to the BBC (and it certainly appears so) this is the same bast@rd that murdered several western hostages in the recent past. I don't think I've seen the git demanding money before. I'm wondering if they are starting to run out of money and are turning to ransoms to pay for their disgusting war against humanity.

  • 3

    StormR

    When it comes to matters like IS or terrorists, I'm hopelessly idealistic. The Canadians are fighting IS, so are the Americans, Brits, Germans, French, Putin and so on, and I know you need the prominent Muslim leaders to join in as well, but if all of these countries that I know have intelligent rational people in them, if they could all just get together, devise a strategy to surround IS and wipe them out, it'd be awesome sign of international cooperation that hasn't been seen in decades.

    Harvey pekar on of the few on here talking sense.

  • -10

    kwatt

    Abe on Saturday had pledged $200 million in non-military aid for countries contending with Islamic State.

    Even if he said so, but it seems no doubt that these countries would use such money for buying more weapons against Islamic State, though it's supposed to be non-military aid. Abe would have provoked Islamic terrorists. If he did not promise money aid at visiting countries, IS would not have done this. IS did not care about Japan in the first place.

  • -3

    Jimizo

    All western powers should get out and stay out of this region of the world. The 'interventions' in these countries have ended catastrophically. Dreams of bringing peace, freedom and democracy to this region are best suited to halfwits spouting rubbish on aircraft carriers and why we can't learn the lesson is beyond me. Does anyone seriously think that wiping out IS will get anywhere near solving the problems of this area? I truly feel for the hostages and the people being butchered by this filth but throwing more lives and money at this part of the world isn't the answer.

  • 3

    itsonlyrocknroll

    The war against terrorism is a not a conventional conflict as the radicalized Islamic jihadists live amongst us festering murderous hatred. 'Jihad john' demands a ransom, but craves a global platform to taught and terrorize, to extort and provoke total war, an all out invasion, boots on the ground, his aim is for captured soldiers families to witness their loved ones publicly tortured then beheaded on prime-time. There must be no let up to the airstrikes or deployment of military drones on isis to support Kurdish fighters.

    Governments must not weaver from calling on Muslim communities to proactively engage and route out Jihadists, This will test cultural relationships built up over decades to the limit, however this is where we have come, not of our own making. A time will come when Government will have to debate openly whether terror suspects will need to be restricted from accessing and utilizing sections of human rights act.. These hostages are brave and courageous men, whose lives could ultimately be added to the increasing list of casualties in this conflict. Heartfelt condolences to their families. I fully support whatever action the Government of Japan chooses to take.

  • -3

    Hotmail

    Well Abe wanted be the hero so he loudly offered the Middle East countries big money to fight the IS. Splattered all over the news about Japan's aide offer to fight against the IS, i'm sure the IS members were licking their chops. If he was really interested in fighting terrorism, he should have offered help quietly without publicity. But he wanted to make Japan look like a humanitarian super power spreading its power and influence all over the world, instead brought negative attention from the IS. Surely, Japan would have thought about this before loudly announcing to the world that it wants to fight the Muslim terrorists? Japan may or may not cave on these terrorists, but even if they don't, don't expect this issue to go away any time soon. Terrorists could strike in Japan too.

  • -8

    SenseNotSoCommon

    This is a win-win for Abe. He's a hero if they're released (odds on him flying to greet them?).

    If the worst happens, he and his cronies squeal with delight at the Apocalypse Trough™

  • 5

    Alphaape

    I might be accused of being selfish, but I cannot help wondering if we had a different, more peace loving prime minister at the helm of our goverment instead of war-loving Abe there might have been no threat from IS

    @ Onishi: They could care less about the Japanese Prime Minister or the Article 9 to your constitution about not going to war. For them, it is their religion that matters. They are killing fellow Muslims who do not adhere to their interpretation of Islam, case in point the stories last week of them throwing men off a building in Mosul for being gay, or the killing of 12 other Muslim youths who were simply watching a soccer match.

    Neither Bush, Blair or any other world leader has anything to do with this groups formation. If you study and understand the conflict, this inter-Islam violence has been going on for centuries. I love it how people try to blame the west and it's support for Israel for all of these conflicts. If the Middle East was such a perfect place of peace and harmony when the Ottomans last ruled it (100 years ago), then whey didn't they allow their fellow Muslims autonomy to set up self rule as long as they were aligned with them? The reason, the rival between Sunni and Shia and the secular Muslim conflict was goig on then as it is now.

    IS did not care about Japan in the first place.

    You may think that this is because Abe has said Japan will pledge money to help countries in the area fight ISIS, and that is what brought this on. Hate to say it, but sooner or later, Japan was going to feel the conflict between Islam and the rest of the world. If you take a look at the conflicts going on in Southern Thailand (Muslim vs. Bhuddist), Southern Phillippines (Muslim vs, Catholic) as well as in Myanmar (Muslim vs. Bhuddist), or India (Muslim vs. Pakistan) you willl see a common antagonist. Nothing to do with these countries and their belief that Israel has the right to exit, or if they follow blindly behind the USA. It is with the Islmaist in the region who want to impose their beliefs on the surronding peoples.

  • 0

    Lazybones

    200 millionl!!!?? Those guys must think they're in Silicon Valley or Wall Street. Where do they think they can park all that, not that they will ever see any of it on this earth.

    according to cnn, they make between $1-2 million A DAY. I think they will be able to handle $200 mil

  • 16

    masterblaster

    Shocking that so many people here are blaming Abe. I don't like his politics but puleeze… they are terrorists, ISLAMIC (yes, religion does matter) terrorists that rape children, kill innocent people, enslave people (if you would like to know more, check out their English language manifesto on how to treat slaves!) and, well, the list of cruelties is long...

    It is not because of Abe, Bush, Blair, Obama, Merkel or any other leader. This group loves death. It loves destruction. It loves trying to control people.

    To even suggest leaving this part of the world is criminal. You don't appease these people. You don't abandon the women and children that are being enslaved. Some people on this board it seems have never actually stepped foot into reality.

  • 10

    JeffLee

    "This isn't about religion,"

    Jihad comes directly from a certain religion, spelled out in a certain holy book. YOu can read about how this holy book recommends decapitation of non-believers deemed a threat to this certain creed.

  • 1

    Farmboy

    I don't know that this will necessarily go against Abe. It could be that many people will blame him for getting Japan involved with what they see as a US project, and painting a target on Japan's head, but it could also get some people off the fence about the need for Japan to have a stronger military, and commit them to the fight against IS. Time will tell which interpretation wins out.

  • 2

    Star-viking

    Yukawa was actually in Syria fighting against the Syrian Government. If the IS were anything but a pack of psychotic, sectarian, racist animals they'd see him as an ally. But they are sick nutters who make rats who live in sewers look pure as the driven snow - so all they see is dollars and another chance of getting the kind of publicity they like.

  • 2

    Pukey2

    I'm surprised Yukawa is still alive. He seems well-fed (there is no point in masking their faces - you can see them without pixels in every other news site). I don't like to see people killed but he was playing with fire.

  • 0

    Farmboy

    comments about the shadows in the Japanese channels. notice how the left guy and Jihadi John the shadow goes right, but the guy on the right, the shadow points the opposite direction. photochopped?

    I see that the shadow under the chin each hostage goes a different way. That does seem to indicate that some kind of photo editing is going on. Maybe they spliced in both or at least one of the hostages.

  • 0

    shallots

    @onagagamo Heartless and not necessarily right. If they were there to inform us then they were quite brave. Information is what stands between us and the abyss of numb apathy or ignorance.

  • -1

    mitokomonalex

    I'm just relieved that Minshuto is not in power. Just scary to think what Yoda, Maehara, Hosono, and Kan would do in situations as this. Maybe offer apologies on behalf of the Fench or American people?

  • -2

    Serrano

    "Abe added that Japan would do its utmost to secure the captives’ safe release."

    How about sending in a crack team to rescue the captives?

    "Tokyo pledged $120 million in fresh aid to help stabilise the Islamist-infested Sahel region"

    Islamist-infested, eh? This doesn't make Islamists sound too good...

  • 0

    Brandon Sherman

    Sounds like a good trade, give them 200 Million dollars so they can buy 200 million dollars worth of gun's, bombs, and soldiers, to force you to live under Shiri Allah by force or die. sounds like a plan.

  • 1

    kitzrow

    ISIS was waiting for this chance and got it when Abe said what he said. This was truly very shocking news!

  • -5

    toshiko

    Why Japanese Govt ignore story of these two? Did someone in Japanese Govt investigate why these two have been there and reporting about some other country Japanese couldn't care less? The amount is no problem for Japan. Did Govt compute commission for these two and shares for ISIS? Didn't Japan warn not to travel there? Are they treated like violators of that warning? Do they have valid visas to go there?

  • 1

    Serrano

    "Just scary to think what Yoda, Maehara, Hosono, and Kan would do in situations as this."

    You mean Noda, not Yoda.

  • -1

    boweevil

    They've had the hostages for a few months-but Abe's pledge of money that Japan doesn't have (I guess its going to have to be borrowed) and his recent politicking with Israel has just sealed the fate of these poor men. The more Abe involves Japan in what are primarily Middle Eastern concerns, the more he raises the possibility of terrorist attacks on Japanese people and interests. He follows a long tradition of western politicans who basically paint targets on the backs of their own constituents by interefering in parts of the world that they have no business being in.

    ISIS is a direct product of western interventionism in Syria and Iraq...those chickens have come home to roost. It is clear that Abe wants to elevate Japan's profile on the world stage at the expense and safety of the Japanese people.

  • 3

    Steven C. Schulz

    Threatening workers because Japan wants to help rebuild these tattered nations just goes to show the depravity of these people.

    The government is right not to negotiate. If anything, Japan should join the coalition against ISIS, in at least non-combat role; although if anything this should qualify as a self-defense trigger for the purposes of Article 9.

  • 0

    sighclops

    It's clear that the Coalition has been too soft on these loonies. Anonymous need to step up their assault, find their bank accounts and drain them. Then the Coalition need to bring in the serious hardware and level the place.

  • 1

    theFu

    Small strike teams. Take these wackos out, silently. Leave nothing behind.

    Sorry - been watching too much Jack Ryan movies recently. Those make it look really easy.

  • 0

    Jimizo

    'To even suggest leaving this part of the world is criminal. You don't appease these people. You don't abandon the women and children that are being enslaved. Some people on this board it seems have never actually stepped foot into reality.'

    Entering this part of the world was criminal, and I mean criminal in the legal sense, 12 years ago. We've all 'stepped foot' into the reality of this situation in this part of the world in the shape of a bloodbath with 100,000 dead, soldiers in body bags or maimed and a criminal amount of money flushed down the pan. The fruits of this saw a country disintegrate into chaos after the west was quite happy to see Saddam butcher his own people for decades in order to prevent this chaos. Of course any decent person is appalled IS and its murderous medieval fantasies, but those advocating another 'hopelessly idealistic' ( as one poster put it well ) mission into the Middle East had better come up with some pretty impressive reasons why it will be different this time and furthermore, how this region should be 'rebuilt'. I hope the tough-talkers are also prepared to put on the tin hat in a mission which has clear objectives and they are prepared to see more dead soldiers come home.

  • 3

    SuperDonQuixote

    This isn't the first time the Japanese government has faced a situation like this, anyone remember the Shosei Koda incident back in '04? The government refused to comply with the terrorists' demands then and there's little reason to believe that round two will be any different. Say what you want about the Japanese, but at least they're more headstrong than the soft-hearted Europeans.

  • -1

    maglev101

    @SmithJapan - He'll proclaim himself the person who 'brought peace through revision of the constitution, changing of history to be more patriotic, and increased defense spending to counter the 'China threat''. Well done, Abe!

    Islamic terrorism probably will kill more Japanese nationals than any direct "China threat" ever will. The main beneficiary of this "China threat" is the military-industrial complex.

  • -1

    kruz01

    IS is a band of Thieves & even they don't trust each others!! I am wondering how and why those Japanese went there???

  • 4

    StormR

    just give em $200,000,000 worth of missiles, rockets, and hellfire dropped and fired from Allied aircraft and ships,

    Japanese were beheaded in Iraq 10 years ago was abe responsible then too ?

    Some people need to understand a few things and look at history

  • -9

    tinawatanabe

    Abe has to withdraw the predged money to save the two Japanese. Japan is paying huge money to UN. What is UN doing with the money other then Japan bashing?

  • 2

    Fadamor

    The IS has revealed itself for what it really is... nothing more than a bunch of common thugs kidnapping people to fund their way of life. The Koran is apparently verbose about what to with infidels. I wonder what the Koran has to say about kidnappers?

  • -2

    Qamar

    Bullies; they are all Bullies "you better do as I say or else". I hope the two Japanese can return to Japan asap safe and sound!

  • 0

    serendipitous

    You'd think humans would have become cleverer more understanding of one another with all the technology we have but we seem to be more into death and destruction than ever. Be that as it may, this current IS bunch need to be infiltrated and destroyed.

  • 5

    samwatters

    "They are clearly not true Muslims."

    Straight from the Quran(8:12): "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike of every fingertip of them."

  • 1

    roughneck

    Start with the moderate ones, and you reach the extremists!

  • -2

    toshiko

    iSIS Blackmailing Japan, The news is all over in USA. if ISIS execute them, Japanese people opposing to scrap Article 9 will not hesitate Japan send Mitsubishi drones to crush ISIS all over there and other Arabic countries. Unlike Mitsubishi Zero attack on Hawaii, this time Japan has right to crush them. ISIS does not know Japanese short temper.

  • 2

    Thunderbird2

    Why aren't UK, US and other allied helicopter gunships standing off and just pouring death down on these freaks? Just wipe them off the face of the planet... don't play by their rules. This is a time when rules of engagement should be ignored.

    Wipe them out!

  • 0

    danalawton1@yahoo.com

    What is ISIS' plan.... their strategy? They must know Japan will not pay.... so they risk Japan's ire with no gain. What do they expect to gain?

  • -5

    toshiko

    @danalawton1@yahoo.comJAN. 21, 2015 - 12:54AM JST What is ISIS' plan.... their strategy? They must know Japan will not pay.... so they risk Japan's ire with no gain. What do they expect to gain?

    '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

    ISIS massacre? UK, US, and other allies have no experience of massacre. Only Japan has.

  • 3

    danalawton1@yahoo.com

    @toshiko.... what are you talking about?

  • -1

    noypikantoku

    I will not be surprised if a terrorist attack will happen in Japan soon, Abe is looking for trouble, now he got it! ISIS is no Joke... that 200 million dollars couldve been used for Tohoku people or the jobless Japanese looking for jobs, but this idiot boastly used it to provoke these criminals and play with danger! Its not just about these 2 men, ISIS will definitely add Japan to their target enemy list, thanks to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe!

  • 2

    Yenot

    @Onishi, You are not selfish, just maybe naive. @ all of you that need to comment about Abe san, whether or not you agree with his politics, this was coming regardless of the actions or no actions of the Abe administration.As one of the japanese hostage went there as an ally of ISIS, how do we know that this is not just a cruel ploy?l Last @ Lucabrasi and any one else with true intentions could you please tell me what a true muslim is?

  • 2

    JTDanMan

    So, how that pacifism thing working out for you, Japan?

  • -2

    flowers

    There is more to it than meet the eyes. IS seems to target those directly involve in their conflicts and retaliate as they see fit. Japan must be aiding their enemy that is certain. They don’t care about the ransom money as seen from the huge demand. The fate of the captives is already predetermined. Now, Abe will have a chance to show to the Japanese people that more military spending is necessary and a change in the Constitution is required so that Japan can send troops to fight against IS. Too bad for the captives, their lives are being used in this crooked political game.

  • -2

    Bartholomew Harte

    They were good as dead when they arrived! meanwhile the "Saudi Wall" is going up in record time. The Saudi (& other Muslim) nation, with all their arms and wealth are digging in for the next World War & I'm afraid they may be right.To Hell with daesh!

  • -1

    toshiko

    @danalawton1@yahoo.comJAN. 21, 2015 - 01:42AM JST @toshiko.... what are you talking about?

    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

    You wrote a question. . What do they expect to gain?

    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

    So I wrote what ISIS gain ,,,,, Japan can massacre them. That will be gain of ISIS.

  • -1

    toshiko

    @danalawton1@yahoo.comJAN. 21, 2015 - 01:42AM JST @toshiko.... what are you talking about?

    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

    You wrote a question. . What do they expect to gain?

    ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

    So I wrote what ISIS gain ,,,,, Japan can massacre them. That will be gain of ISIS.

  • 5

    USNinJapan2

    Why is this story filed in the Crime section? This isn't a crime against individuals. When hostages are taken, threatened with execution, and a ransom demand made to a sovereign nation by another state/terrorist organization because the hostages happen to be citizens of that nation, it's an act of war not a petty crime. It belongs in the National section.

  • -7

    masako123

    Abe helped Usa 200 milion usd for bombing isis, Now isis wants 200 milion Usd,, America has not biring good things to japan they killed 100.000 people at hiroshima japan should avoid relation with Usa

  • -2

    danalawton1@yahoo.com

    @Toshiko... this was your answer: ISIS massacre? UK, US, and other allies have no experience of massacre. Only Japan has.

    "ISIS massacre?".... it appeared to be a question since you used a "?", mark. Ok so now I get it... you were trying to say that Japan will massacre and also added in your way that Japan would do better than the U.S. and U.K., because you feel that Japan has more experience in doing so. Ok... now I get it.

  • 0

    NYtoday

    @JTDanMan

    Some of the Article 9 believers remain silent (just like every time China ships/aircrafts come say hi to us crossing our fence) while the other bashes and blames Abe for this regardless.

  • 0

    toshiko

    Article 9 believers are gradually dieng out. The people who experienced air raids and A bombs. That is why you don't hear opinions by Article 9 believers. USA news have been reporting backgrounds of these two people. One went to help ISIs€ and another one went to bring his friend back. Then PM Abs's comment that says basically he will try to bring back these two hostages safely. Did not sound Japan will pay ransom. usa MEDIAS are sympathetic to Japan..

  • 3

    Félix Lorenzo Martín Moro

    We are on war realy, all the wordl must act together.

  • -1

    Yubaru

    I wrote what ISIS gain ,,,,, Japan can massacre them.

    Japan is only going to do what it has always done under the LDP after WWII, talk tough, and carry a twig.

    Japan will not walk out on it's own and take any action against the IS, Abe is full of hot air.

  • 1

    lostrune2

    Abe helped Usa 200 milion usd for bombing isis, Now isis wants 200 milion Usd

    No, that $200M is not going to the USA. That $200M is going to the people who are affected by ISIS. The US doesn't need money to bomb ISIS.

    This is the first time ISIS has specifically extorted a government for money in exchange for non-beheading. Any country who gives aid to the people affected by ISIS can expect to automatically get extorted by them for the same amount as the aid. It doesn't matter if it's Japan, Indonesia, or the Philippines.

  • -1

    turbotsat

    It's interesting that Abe is issuing his vow from outside the country. Away from homebase Foreign Ministry handlers?

    Is Japan really going to project force across the world for a couple of hostages?

    toshiko: ... Japanese people opposing to scrap Article 9 will not hesitate Japan send Mitsubishi drones to crush ISIS all over there and other Arabic countries. Unlike Mitsubishi Zero attack on Hawaii, this time Japan has right to crush them. ISIS does not know Japanese short temper.

    What are they going to send, mosquito drones?

    http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/07/how-japan-fell-love-americas-drones/89195/

    Japan ... will invest ¥3 billion (approx $372 million) in the coming decade to drastically expand its virtually non-existent military unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) program, according to a senior analyst at IHS Jane’s, the leading defense and security agency.

  • 1

    Lazybones

    I don't know why some readers seem so confident that Japan will not pay a ransom. Japan has a history of paying ransoms to get back their citizens.

  • -3

    toshiko

    The report on those two people, one went to help rebels in Syria. Another one, he wanted to bring original rebel helper back to Japan. Abe is not in Japan and he rushed to give his statement, It takes time to go home, Only 72 hours were given. Today, US Media has special talks all day long on this. If Japan use JSDF, is this in a category of self defense?

  • 2

    Nessie

    Religion's merely the vehicle for them to indulge in their savagery. These terrorists go to extreme lengths to spin and distort their religious dogma to justify these atrocities.

    And yet, look how effective violent appeals to religion are. If it's a vehicle, it's one that's enthusiastically driven by religious joy riders who are keen to impose their religion on others.

  • 0

    Yubaru

    If Japan use JSDF, is this in a category of self defense?

    It's idiotic to even think or consider that the JSDF would be sent into the region for any action. That guaruntees their deaths, and plenty of others as well.

    Besides that it would take Japan years to make a decision on the logistics alone. Forget it.

  • -1

    toshiko

    OK, Yubaaru: Last news was that Abe went home cutting his tour, After visited Palestine. We will see how he will do. Only 72 hours since this I/SIS declaration. If this is accurate or not but two ISIS people are involved. But no more SONY and N Korea stories in US Media now. CNN discussion team concluded that Japan will never send SDF there.

  • -2

    noypikantoku

    NYToday

    Now if he vows to save those guys→ "WTF, Abe?! Look what our tax money he had thrown away turned into!!" If he doesn't vow to save those guys→"WTF, Abe?! He doesn't care innocent lives. This is just like imperial Japan. Nazi Abe!!"

    ...Can't win, hahaha!

    Yes indeed it's Abe's fault, ISIS held these 2 guys for a long time, until Abe pledged these 200 million USD aid, maybe ISIS was not really aiming to Kill these guys until Abe gave them a reason to. Yes ISIS needs to be destroyed and the International community should work together, but don't they have a good strategy? can they keep these plans confidential? Why do Abe needs to DECLARE to the entire world that he is donating 200 million dollars to bomb ISIS? Sending a message to these terrorists to add Japan to their enemy list, So who is inviting danger to Japan now? ISIS are not stupid! what differs them from the typical terrorists is they're not just the stereotype Jihadists, they have fanatics even in Japan, so It won't surprise me now if these terrorists attack Tokyo.

  • 2

    DaDude

    They're not dead yet. They might get rescued.

    Yes, they have a .000001% chance of getting rescued like all of the other hostages ISIS took. Odds are looking in their favor.

  • -1

    dcog9065

    Good on Japan for taking up a bigger role in the international security community, but situations like these may arise more often. There is no chance the government will pay $200m

  • 1

    kcjapan

    “You now have 72 hours to pressure your government into making a wise decision by paying the $200 million to save the lives of your citizens,” - black-clad militant brandishing a knife

    Two points: First, this isn't politics, this is blackmail. Second, These fascist nutballs aren't about religion either.

    No one cares whether France allows free speech or if some backwoods Mullah thinks murder is Allah's cup of tea.

    What every civilized person cares about is stopping fear.

    Fear of these lunatics, or free speech or where their children will play because some dummy with a gun wants to kill for some completely stupid reason.

    What the world is sick of, is every Tom, Dick and Harry mental case with some upside down demand for the world to dance to his tune using fear and slaughter and shaking some god concept around like his personal voodoo doll.

    ISIS grabbed a Japanese security firms' employee and a Japanese freelance journalist as another soft target threat and they will not stop unless they are isolated and exterminated as all violent insane criminals are; just like their murderous clones in Paris.

    In the end these are men with guns, not men with god and Islam has as much at stake in this as anyone. If Islam will not take the lead in defining itself then they leave these mad acts as their legacy and every true believer knows this and detests it.

    Worst still, the black-clad militant brandishing a knife is going to kill these men anyhow, because that's all ISIS has to offer the world. Not god but death and they never care who or how.

  • 0

    noypikantoku

    I dont see any benefit of announcing to the whole world that you are giving 200 million dollar funds to bomb the enemy. These leaders should've just kept this to themselves. Wrong Move.

  • 1

    turbotsat

    toshiko: If Japan use JSDF, is this in a category of self defense?

    If Japan sends SDF and other countries such as China, ROK, complain about it, it'd just make those countries look silly.

    But Japan should warn citizens they're on their own if they try something stupid like visiting a zone prone to kidnappings and beheadings. Sending SDF in to rescue these two isn't the way to do that.

  • 1

    heynong

    But Japan should warn citizens they're on their own if they try something stupid like visiting a zone prone to kidnappings and beheadings.

    Most of the hostages whom have been arrested by IS are journalists for Syria civil war. The nature of their jobs are riskier than combative soldiers. At least soldiers have weapons and comrades for backing up. The journalists are empty handed and highly vulnerable.

    Back in 2007, one Japanese reporter was shot dead by military police of Myanmar(Burma) during the riot. He knew the risks however it is part of his job for taking risks.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/10/08/us-myanmar-japan-funeral-idUST23546620071008

    If all journalists and reporters stop trying something stupid thing like we have no 24 hours news for what is happening all over the world. Salute to all journalists including JT staff!

  • 3

    Yubaru

    Why do Abe needs to DECLARE to the entire world that he is donating 200 million dollars to bomb ISIS?

    Do you actually read the news articles about this story, or watch anything on TV?

    The money Abe pledged was for supplies, food and medical, for those who have become homeless because of the IS and for those fighting against it. Nothing about bombs, weapons, nothing.

  • -2

    Yoshimi Onishi

    Wow!! I got '31 bads' for my previous comment as of 15:50 Jan 21. I have never got this many responses, either bad or good. However, this does not change what I think about this and Abe at all, except that I did learn most people reading this newspaper do not seem to like my comment. And I'm quite fine with this.

  • -1

    Yubaru

    However, this does not change what I think about this and Abe at all,

    This is probably because you are Japanese and play follow the leader with rose-colored glasses on and don't take time to think for yourself nor the issues that face Japan and leave everything in dear leader Abe's controlling and condescending hands.

    Does that about describe it?

  • 0

    toshiko

    There is another article related to this. ISIS budget and video authenticity. Enlarge photo and see cecks of both men, Notice shwdows on their necks. This story will be continued replacing SONY story.

  • -1

    danalawton1@yahoo.com

    @Toshiko.... thank you for your update and your commentary that this story will continue to replace the "Sony" story. I've often found that those who are kind enough to provide their simple insight are just that.

  • 1

    YuriOtani

    It is sad they are going to die but the 200 million is even a greater harm to peace. Next why is honest Abe offering 200 million of our tax money. Nice gesture but Japan is broke.

  • 0

    toshiko

    @Yuri : Japan is not broke but to increase taz hikd, it is pretending. About Tohoku Prefectures, Central Govt already paid damage restructure funds for weach prefecture. Just like central Govt, these prefectures keep funds in bank and explain why they can not rebuild. They say they can not have worjers. One of prefecture even planned to icreate casinos by the money. Then, Japan is the second biggest USA bonds holder. No 1 is China bur China stated that it will not increase buying. Japan hasn't mentioned so analysts claim Japan will be no 1 US creditor very soon. 200 million to Arab countries are just future investment to buy oil there so that Japan can scrap Nuclear Energy plants. Japan is not poor. Just pretending poor to raise tax.

  • -1

    AramaTaihenNoYouDidnt

    Abe, and Japan as a whole, did right offering monetary assistance. Now, these IS menaces want draw first blood. And to gain world attention for the sole purpose in a) humiliating Japan and, b) spreading their violent, ideological beliefs, they dare publicly by sacrificing the innocent. Don't give in to these cowards Japan, if you do, it will only ignite their views even more. A dreadful circumstance to say the least, and these 2 men may very well lose their lives in the process. No one to blame except those people who take them.

  • 2

    YuriOtani

    Charity starts at home and there are more important things than flushing money down the middle east toilet. My guy and others have told me the billions the US has spent on reconstruction in Afghanistan and Iraq were mostly wasted.

    My heart goes out to these two Japanese but they put themselves in harms way and paying that much money will make things worse. Best not to pay these criminals.

  • 0

    Christopher Glen

  • 1

    bruinfan

    Most countries should just avoid Syria and Iraq and let the Shiites and Sunni warmongers fight it out. These countries are not yet ready for Democracy. Cheney and Rumsfeld were wrong.

  • 0

    WilliB

    Bruinfan:

    " Cheney and Rumsfeld were wrong. "

    Cheney and Rumsfeld were wrong about Iraq. They have nothing to do with Syria. The Syrian disaster is solely the responsibily of Obama (who must not be criticized), no matter how much you try to avoid acknowledging that.

  • 0

    WilliB

    Strangerland:

    " The Syrian disaster is a result of the war Bush started. Obama has been stuck with his mess. " No. That is simply not true. Bush did not mess with Syria, it was Obama who chose to intervene on behalf of the Syrian Sunni "rebels", aka Al Quaeda and now ISIS. And it was Obama who chose to support the Sunni rebels (aka Al Quaeda) and Tunesia and in Libya, with the result that both Tunesia and Libya are now hotbeds of Sunni islamist terrorism and generous sources of weapons supplies.

    Much as you would like to ignore that, Bush had NOTHING to do with that. Bush did NOT support Al Qaeda in Tunesia, Libay, and Syria. Obama did. That is the reality, like it or not.

  • 0

    Zaphod

    strangerland:

    " The Syrian disaster is a result of the war Bush started. Obama has been stuck with his mes "

    You insist on looking only at half of the picture. Yes, if Saddam was still in power, there would be no ISIS in Western Iraq. But likewise, if Assad was still in power of the whole of Syria, there would be no ISIS in Easter Syria. And Bush did NOT mess with Syria, it was (and is) the Obama administration that keeps aiding the "vetted rebels" aka Al Quaeda aka ISIS in Syria.

    Your view of the Middle East is quite a tunnel vision... maybe because of your domestic US political partyline?

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