City in Fukushima declares August Decontamination Month

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    electric2004

    The washoff from the hosings and the mounds of contaminated topsoil are then moved to less-used areas and buried in huge trenches.

    And then after some time, it will enter the ground water and then the drinking water.

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    Asagao

    You are right, water and plants and the food chain will be contaminated by the concentrated radiation. Also, the reactors haven't reached cold shut down and are still leaking. Many mistakes and faulty equipment mean that the air, sea and ground water continue to be polluted in a totally irregular pattern. I admire the people working hard and try to rebuild, but it should be in a different location.

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    smithinjapan

    "We decided that we could not sit by and wait until Tokyo figured out what to do,”

    Wise decision, as all Tokyo ever does is pat themselves on the back for saying "something needs to be done" and then 'suggesting' the local governments do something.

    Anyway, isn't it a bit late in the month to be declaring it 'month of this or that'? And I hope they keep on trudging and working after the month is done, unlike when police stop doing random checks for drunkenness and cut back on patrols when 'traffic safety month' is over. Good luck to these people, and I hope the government finally gets off its hands and helps out.

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    Heda_Madness

    Of course the first question one should ask is where does Minami Soma's water come from? Does it come from Lakes and Rivers in the mountains (as one would expect) or does it come from the ground water in the area. This is actually one of the (many) reasons why nuclear reactors in the UK are located next to the coast. Namely if it all goes t!ts up the impact on the drinking water will be substantially reduced than if they were located inland.

    Incidentally, I've been to Minami Soma a couple of times and we had a Geiger Counter on both occasions which had readings that were substantially lower than in Tokyo. Still, I can understand why people have moved from there and are reticent about going back.

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    bentheredonthat

    "decontamination month?" don't they mean "decontamination DECADE?"

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    kansaifun

    Sure, why not! I'll celebrate from the safety of my home in Kansai!

    Happy Decontamination Month! (Oh, and please don't send us any more contaminated presents, like this top soil!)

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    Spidapig24

    So according to this article its a campaign to bring back residents that are "spooked" now why on earth would anyone living 20km from the disaster call Fukushima be spooked. Could it be the incompetent lying scum called TEPCO or could it be the lying incompetent scum called the J government. The same two groups that have bumbled and fumbled their way through this disaster since day one. Oh and how are things going at the NPP these days, it seems that J media hasnt been reporting much about it lately so all must be good. Unless its the government censorship kicking in and they think no news is better than bad news.

    Oh and you have to love their solution for getting rid of the contaminated topsoil. Lets bury it in a less used area, genius next thing they will use that are for farming or build a school on it. The brains in this country just keep on amazing me. Such foresight is amazing.

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    kurisupisu

    I am just glad that these people are trying to make it on their own!

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    Darren Brannan

    more absolute rubbish.The contamination is off the charts in these places.They just caught a wild boar in Miyagi with 4000 Bq/KG Cesium in it's flesh.They have been quietly dumping radioactive soil in isolated areas for months now.This is just Fukushima.Tokyo is producing barrel upon barrel of wate that can only be stored every week.sludge is being made into fertiliser and sent around Japan.There is a new Cesium cow scandal that involves 4000 cows from Fukushima that were more contaminated than the last lot and didn't apparently eat domestic hay...shame these cows have now mostly been consumed..I mentioned this 2 months back and it is JUST being admitted.Cows (etc) that were sold around Japan from inside the evacuation zone are now being found in places like Shimane and their manure is also laced with Cesium.

    Fukushima had SIX testing (sampling) machines last news I got.

    six machines to test all the pork,chicken,rice,fruit,vegies,barley and beef from Fukushima before it gets sold to distributors.

    three sampling days a week with less than 200 items 'sampled' out of all that..

    make your own conclusions.

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    BlueWitch

    Hiroaki Koide, a radiation specialist and associate professor at Kyoto University’s Research Reactor Institute, said simply removing the top 5 centimeters of soil has been shown to reduce radiation levels by about 90%.

    Another clown-expert from Kyoto University? After all the erroneous info, wrong data, the SPEEDI epic fail, etc. who's gonna believe these people? Beware of these so-called "experts" from Tokyo University, Todai University, Kyoto University as they are very much involved with the Central Government in everything they do and say. About 85% of them are government-run "androids" trained to say what you want to hear. Holding their jobs, fat salaries and high status is more important than getting the children and babies out of there. Make no mistake.

    Further, babies, children and pregnant women are the most vulnerable to radiation-related illnesses, and are generally advised to avoid exposure whenever possible.

    And yet, they have made ZERO effort to evacuate more people and CHILDREN from these contaminated areas, all they do is: blah blah blah blah しょうがないなー

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    BlueWitch

    @Spidapig24

    So according to this article its a campaign to bring back residents that are "spooked" now why on earth would anyone living 20km from the disaster call Fukushima be spooked. Could it be the incompetent lying scum called TEPCO or could it be the lying incompetent scum called the J government.

    Right on, my friend, RIGHT ON!! (^_^)

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    BlueWitch

    @Darren Brannan

    They have been quietly dumping radioactive soil in isolated areas for months now.This is just Fukushima.Tokyo is producing barrel upon barrel of wate that can only be stored every week.sludge is being made into fertiliser and sent around Japan

    That is just the way our corrupted/lying/scum Japanese government does these things, secretly. Shameless.

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    Darren Brannan

    BlueWitch Hiroaki Koide is certainly not pro-govt and may possibly tend towards the anti-nuclear side if anything and has called a spade a spade so far and given consistently more pessimistic appraisals of the situation than anyone else.He actually went to Fukushima to give a lecture to citizens in the worst hit areas and answer their questions honestly.He seems to be one of the few who pours scorn on the rubbish coming from Hosono and his tadachi ni kenkou ni eikyou nai ppl.

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    Darren Brannan

    I recommend that everyone read the ex-skf blog.This Japanese gent literally trawls the latest info from Japan and translates it into perfect English.The things he drags up from the murky depths are staggering.Bookmark his site and read it daily if you really want to know what is being covered up and on what scale. http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/

    I suppose scraping the topsoil off does work but that soil is being recontaminated hourly and then where does that soil go? therein lies the fallibilty of that solution,eh?

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    Heda_Madness

    more absolute rubbish.The contamination is off the charts in these places.

    If that's the case how do you justify the low readings we had on our Geiger counters on the two occasions i've been up there. Two different Geiger counters. Similar results. A friend has also been up and his Geiger counter showed the same results.

    There must be an explanation as to why the three Geiger counters on three separate occasions gave results that suggest that the areas of Minami Soma that we went to were perfectly safe and certainly doesn't suggest that the results are off the charts up there. Far from it.

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    Asagao

    Thanks for the ex-skf blog link. Sharing info is our only defense. Oh, forgot about "lead"...

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    HowardStern

    A timely declaration indeed. The info is filtering out at similar pace to TEPCO/JGov't.

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    BlueWitch

    @Darren Brannan

    BlueWitch Hiroaki Koide is certainly not pro-govt and may possibly tend towards the anti-nuclear side if anything and has called a spade a spade so far and given consistently more pessimistic appraisals of the situation than anyone else.He actually went to Fukushima to give a lecture to citizens in the worst hit areas and answer their questions honestly.He seems to be one of the few who pours scorn on the rubbish coming from Hosono and his tadachi ni kenkou ni eikyou nai ppl.

    Ooppss, He's one of the very "few" genuinely good ones, just like Professor Kodama. Here's a link to one of his lectures about the severity of the contamination: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9sTLQSZfwo&feature=related

    Thank you for the correction, by the way. (^_^)

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    Utrack

    @ Heda_Madness

    The same general areas can have different readings for instance : IITATE, Fukushima Prefecture Radiation levels at the center of the village currently measure 3 microsieverts per hour. In the village's southern Nagadoro district, the figure is 14 microsieverts per hour. That's a big difference.

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/lifeanddeath/AJ201108176593

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    Heda_Madness

    I can appreciate that, we drove through Itate and it was something over 2 where we were and I'm not surprised to hear there are other hospots where it's much higher. Minami Soma is a large city from the amalgamation of a number of towns and I'm sure that there are other parts which are much higher than the results we got which were VERY low. However they are clearly not off the board and claims like that make people like me respond. Inaccurate and unsubstiated by any real data. This is bad for the people near the area but despite what the scaremongers claim it's NOT as bad for most of us and I have zero concerns in returning to Minami Soma in the future.

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    Darren Brannan

    Hmm my friend was driving around in a car all around Iwate today and his geiger counter was picking up 0.2 and more all over Iwate and particularly Ishinomaki ( that was IN the car. Go to somewhere like Namie and I am sure your geiger counter would start chattering. The plume probably affected areas south of Fukushima worse than areas north of Daiichi but they are finding heavy contamination in niigata now. I can imagine some areas of Tochigi being worse than some areas of Fukushima. I think in areas like Namie it is safe to say that the contamination is off the charts when half the kids are peeing cesium and all their beef practically glows in the dark. Glad people are going out and taking their own readings. Recently a guy was diagnosed in tokyo with internal radiatiom poisoning yet he had stayed in Tokyo since March. There are hotspots all over Kanto and Tohoku.

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    Heda_Madness

    Incidentally, I gave you a 'good' rating because it's good to discuss this properly.

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    warnerbro

    Glad things are straightened out regarding Hiroaki Koide. He's essentially sacrificed his career to oppose nuclear energy, and paid a price for it. That's why he's still only an assistant professor. The establishment will not promote anyone who dissents.

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    warnerbro

    Here's a quote from Bloomberg on food testing:"Japan has no centralized system to check for radiation contamination of food, leaving local authorities and farmers conducting voluntary tests. Products including spinach, mushrooms, bamboo shoots, tea, milk, plums and fish have been found contaminated with cesium and iodine as far as 360 kilometers from Dai-Ichi." The legislature has had 5 months to make these tests mandatory.

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    Heda_Madness

    But that's the thing about a spike, it can totally depend on atmospheric conditions. We had three similar results over three separate weekends and it suggests that the level is constant. a one off result, especially after rain and with the wind blowing in the right direction can't mean anything on it's own. Go back to the same ares again and if the data is constant it's a concern.

    I've gone on record as saying this isn't as bad as Chernobyl and perhaps I need to clarify my stance. Chernobyl was a massive explosion which scattered radioactive particles high into the atmosphere which led to large contamination over Western Europe - mostly because it rained. I have no doubt that Namie, parts of itate and a number of other areas will have high levels of radiation but they are few and far between. There are many areas that are safe and comments like the first two about how this story will affect the dribking water without having any idea where that drinking water comes from doesnt help anyone.

    It's not good for the people of Fukushima. But it's not anywhere as scary as some would have you believe for the rest of us.

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    Heda_Madness

    Oh and 0.2 isn't high. It's lower than anywhere in the UK and substantially lower than you would find in the Lake District, north Wales and the highlands of Scotland. Not to mention lower than Cornwall and Edunburgh.

    I think Rome had something like 2.0 from background radiation on any normal day.

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    naruhodo1

    Bluewitch. I really wanna know what you are doing about all your issues with Japan. I mean, u r right, but i really hope you are doing more than just taking ur frustration out here. Are u actively protesting outside of government buildings? Are you trying to get other j people on board and actually doing something? Are you writing letters, getting signatures, standing outside your house with a sign, something? Please tell me you are otherwise i would lose all respect for you! 

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    globalwatcher

    Part of what we are doing is symbolic. It is intended to reassure our residents. It’s also just to show that we will not sit idly by

    Ohhh... after many years, the comment above reminds me a movie of Kurosawa; the scene ending with a Japanese woman sweeping sand dune endlessly... It is a symbol of Japan and Japanese people who never know to quit.

    I saw this movie with my parents when I was a little child. Ohhh.... I am getting older and I cannot remember the name of movie.... anyone remember?

    Pray for Japan

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    lucabrasi

    @globalwatcher

    "Suna no Onna"?

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    globalwatcher

    @lucabrasi, that's IT!!!! Thank you.

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    lucabrasi

    @globalwatcher

    You're v.welcome. I don't know the movie but the book is excellent. Kobo Abe... a bit mad, but wonderful for all that.

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    globalwatcher

    @lucabrasi, thanks. I will get the book to read.

    Pray for Japan

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    kurisupisu

    Removing topsoil does have an effect.With radiation the strength depends on distance and/or shielding. Physically removing contamination would have a beneficial effect.Of course there are not any storage areas for the waste and where is that radioactive topsoil to go? These are major concerns...Russia had a centralised clean-up but in Japan it is piecemeal and muddled. Thus, we are seeing slowly but surely,the whole of Honshu being contaminated

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    waltery

    T otally E xpected P revarications C omes O stensibly

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    Darren Brannan

    @Heda yes mate I agree with yoi. Even here in Osaka my local park and suma beach in kobe gets up to 0.2 on my Soeks. The clincher is that Kansai and Gifu have high natural radiation from the granite of mt.rokko. Tottori has remnants of uranium mines too. I just think that the elevated counts in northern Japan may be from different and more harmful isotopes. I did call the city office to ask what the normal background radiation is in my area but they didn't know and fobbed me off. I would expect a great amount of radiation has dissipated since march and wind patterns and the elevation of readings will skew data too. Neptunium and Plutonium are found in areas close to Fukuichi and I guess the types of isotopes that are lingering are more of a worry. I have seen photos of the clandestine dumping of topsoil in Fukushima and I do worry that it will leach into the groundwater. While I understand that the levels on a geiger counter will probably be pretty low now I worry about the folk that are consuming these smaller amounts daily in their food and drink and in the air. Anyway kudos to you for being proactive. My mission is just to prevent as much of this mess getting into my 2 year old's system until I can leave in April and I just want to share whatever I find out with others.

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    Heda_Madness

    They will be from more harmful Isotopes but they are also well within internationally perceived safety limits- not just Japanese and 0.2 is negligible. As I mentioned before, a number of areas of the UK are still affected by Chernobyl. Those of us who were alive in 1986 ate food that was contaminated and drank water. Many of us would have eaten lamb from the Lake District that would have been contaminated from the Windscale fire of the 50's where the British government carried out no checks on the surrounding farmland.

    I totally understand why you wish to protect your two year old and if I had children I would also be worried about their health and safety however I'm also not one of those that believes that any radiation will kill you. Radiation is bad, but there are tens of millions of people alive who were more affected by radiation from Chernobyl than we are in Tokyo etc who can prove that isn't the case.

    And thanks for the compliment but I've only done a bit. As have many, many other people. And if we all do a bit then hopefully we can help those who most need it.

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    uzneko

    this is fantastic to hear! I visited Minami Soma while volunteering and this place is just lovely, it would be great to see more people in the streets the next time I visit

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    BlueWitch

    @naruhodo1

    Bluewitch. I really wanna know what you are doing about all your issues with Japan. I mean, u r right, but i really hope you are doing more than just taking ur frustration out here. Are u actively protesting outside of government buildings? Are you trying to get other j people on board and actually doing something? Are you writing letters, getting signatures, standing outside your house with a sign, something? Please tell me you are otherwise i would lose all respect for you! 

    I really don't know what do you mean or what your intentions are every time you reply to one of my posts, as if I was the only JAPANESE POSTER to openly criticize and stomp down on our corrupted/draconian government. I think you should ask other J-posters like YuriOtani. All I know is that "frustrations" have nothing to do with seeking "human rights" and better treatment from this government. Whether you were born here or not. And how do you know I'm an activist? Have you seen me outside the kokkaigin in Chiyoda? I have participated in countless protests and demos in my life, but that doesn't mean I'm the type of person that would jump a fence and lit a building on fire. The matter of the fact is, I am, NOT the only person in japan that feels discontent and dissatisfaction with this government. So get your facts straight. Whether you respect me or not, that is up to you. At the end, I believe in myself and that's what really matters.

    • Moderator

      Back on topic please.

  • 1

    valley-of-the-shadows

    This is not decontamination. This is merely moving contamination from one place to another. This should be called "moving contamination month" with the idea of off loading the contamination into TEPCO HQ!

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    globalwatcher

    And how do you know I'm an activist?

    @BlueWitch, do not get too offended. You should take that as a compliment.

    Most people in Japan have no courage to speak out and do not know what to do with serious issues surrounding them.There have been many good books written about the courage you may want to consider reading one day. Do not feel ashamed. You have earned my respect.

    Pray for Japan

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    BlueWitch

    @globalwatcher

    @BlueWitch, do not get too offended. You should take that as a compliment.

    Most people in Japan have no courage to speak out and do not know what to do with serious issues surrounding them.There have been many good books written about the courage you may want to consider reading one day. Do not feel ashamed. You have earned my respect.

    Pray for Japan

    Thank You, dear. You have also earned my respect and admiration as well. (^_^) <33333

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    globalwatcher

    @BlueWitch, thank you. I just want Japan and Japanese people to do better. I care. That's all.

    Pray for Japan.

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