Clinton says Trump's foreign policy 'absolutely bewilders' her

A lot of things bewild Hillary Clinton.

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Clinton says Trump's foreign policy 'absolutely bewilders' her

You're not alone Hillary.

Serrano you are so right GO the Trump

Gawd. What an ugly baby.

A lot of things bewild Hillary Clinton.

I agree with her: these are bewild (sic) times when a man accused of so many crimes is actually deemed a viable candidate by so many people.

This is really quite interesting. A focus group of Trump cultists discussing campaign adverts..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MubunsD-7g

Let's see if Trump speech moves the needle at all. I say, nah.

And Trumpy has only one more week to unbake the cake. I bet he can't do it.

Trump has only one more week to 'pivot.' But I think we all know Trump ain't gonna 'pivot.' In fact, I'm tempted to predict that after the sound rejection of this 'serious speech' he is getting today from across the political spectrum, by this late this evening he's gonna be back trolling on Twitter and whining about the 'rigged' election.

I don't like to make predictions, so I'll just say it is highly likely. Shall we say close to but not beyond a reasonable doubt...? Yeah, sure. Let's say that.

Hillary is bewildered? LOL! Hillary's foreign pretty much sums up bewilderment and leads to more corruption, using her alleged foundation as a funnel it to her slush fund. Besides cozying up to foreign leaders and lining her pockets, how is she going to deal with Russia, China or NK? Talk to them, they think Obama is a joke and Hillary.... Let's just put it this way, none of these leaders will either lose sleep or have any concern for her.

Clinton says Trump's foreign policy 'absolutely bewilders' her

Shame on her. As head of foreign affairs in the US Dept. of State, she royaly screwed that up. Ohh & let's see . . . allowing thousands & thousands od Syrian refugees into America absolutely bewliders me. "Building bridges" (instead of enforcing illegal immigration) is absolutely insane too.

Gota love the media too. Showing HRC in a photo with a happy baby. Showed Trump with a crying baby, then the media falsely "blamed" him / demonized him for kicking the crying baby out, when that was not the case. . . . Yup -pics say a thousand words. More so in an election, where one candidate has the media in her pocket.

she royaly screwed that up.

That's actually putting it very kindly, I would call it Nuclear fallout. It really doesn't get much of this. This is why Trump has the absolute advantage if ONLY he can stay on message and drive that stake home! Just keep quiet and stay focus.

Trump will most likely never be President so it doesn't matter. Sad that poor bewildered Hilary will be though. more of the same crony, consensus, craven and hypocritical policies to follow.

if ONLY he can stay on message

The only message Trump has is how great Trump is. It's all hot air.

I'm hoping Trump stays on 'message'. His supposed message is tanking his candidacy.

When Hilary wins and the war is escalated in Syria, don't say you weren't warned. Have you checked how many former neocons have joined her foreign policy team?

One of HRC's slogans reads, "Stronger Together." I'm all for that if she's referring to Americans. Not illegal immigrants and islamic refugees who are slipping into our communities. America first, NO shortcuts, NO exceptions.

How refreshing to actually see an article about Hillary!

Hillary`s foreign policy seems to be quite clear. Americans are not 1st priority. Her VP thinks that white people must becaome a minority to atone for racism.

“I think the burden is on those of us who are in the majority — Caucasians. We have to put ourselves in a place where we are the minority.”

-Tim Kaine

(The other day)

We know how you deal with foreign policy, Hillary. If Pulitzer reporter Sy Hersh is correct, you and Obama planned several years ago to put captured Libyan sarin gas in the hands of Syrian rebels to stage an attack that would then be blamed on Assad's forces. Why? To justify American intervention. The ploy failed. Trump might be dangerous, but Hillary Clinton IS dangerous, Then, again, Sy Hersh might be wrong. He is still alive after all.

Hillary`s foreign policy seems to be quite clear. Americans are not 1st priority. Her VP thinks that white people must becaome a minority to atone for racism.

“I think the burden is on those of us who are in the majority — Caucasians. We have to put ourselves in a place where we are the minority.”

Condemning someone for suggesting we try to look at a situation from the perspective of the other side. Classy.

Sums up the Trumpeters in a nutshell.

The topic is foreign policy, not perspective..... Nice attempt at a twist!

No, He literally means to put white people in a situation where they are the minority.

No, He literally means to put white people in a situation where they are the minority.

Of course you think that - to acknowledge the truth would mean that you were using rhetoric. Can't have people knowing that, right?

I can't imagine anyone is really expecting much of anything from Trump on foreign policy, including his supporters. Just build the wall, keep those darker skinned people out, and do whatever for everything else.

I like that Donald Trump is working to Make America Great Again ... by ensuring Hillary is our next president.

Trump's sacrifice will never be forgotten. He ruined his reputation to ensure the Repubs never get elected for another decade. A true Democrat and patriot putting his country above his own reputation

Could one of you Hillary/Obama suppporters please outline your reasons why you like HIllary without refering to Trump please?

I can't imagine anyone is really expecting much of anything from Trump on foreign policy, including his supporters. Just build the wall, keep those darker skinned people out, and do whatever for everything else.

What is Hillary's foreign policy? I think if I were a dictator, I would prefer to have a Hilary presidency, it would make things and business transactions easier. They can get quirks and I can expand my cash flow. It's a win, win situation.

Clinton says Trump's foreign policy 'absolutely bewilders' her

While others are absolutely bewildered by Hillary's so-called truthfulness comments regarding her e-mail scandal.

What in the world is Wikileaks going to reveal next (about either of them)?

Wait until the debates and we'll see who's bewlidered. Hilary needs to be handled with kid gloves and the Donald is going to treat her only slightly better than the way Bill treated a long line of women. It's going to be fun to watch.

bass: What is Hillary's foreign policy? I think if I were a dictator, I would prefer to have a Hilary presidency, it would make things and business transactions easier. They can get quirks and I can expand my cash flow. It's a win, win situation.

That may resonate with the white trash, but I'm a Democrat. You're going to need more substance in order for me to take you seriously.

I don't see how anyone can be 'bewildered' by Trump's foreign policy. It's simple:

Don't let anyone who is is either Muslim or Hispanic of origin in your country.

Don't give an inch when doing business with other countries; especially with China.

Don't be afraid to lie to get your way.

Deny anything wrong, even if you truly did it.

Blame the media for any negativity.

By all means, backtrack or claim 'sarcasm' for mistakes made.

Force all countries to kowtow to your every need, and if they don't comply, threaten to 'bomb them'.

In conclusion, Trump's policy is quite simple to me.

Wc626AUG. 17, 2016 - 10:00AM JST One of HRC's slogans reads, "Stronger Together." I'm all for that if she's referring to Americans. Not illegal immigrants and islamic refugees who are slipping into our communities.

It's interesting that you felt it necessary to specify "Islamic" refugees are a problem. Does Trump not support the 1st Amendement? Are Trump supporters opposed to the Constitution of the United States? If he doesn't have a problem with minorities, why won't he just say so? People are asking and I think it's fair to raise the question.

JefferyDomerAUG. 17, 2016 - 10:32AM JST Hillary`s foreign policy seems to be quite clear. Americans are not 1st priority. Her VP thinks that white people must becaome a minority to atone for racism.

This is the what drives the Trump campaign in a nutshell - the fear that white, Christian Americans won't be the de facto top of the social order and nonsense conspiracy theories to justify any lie that feeds into that fear.

I surmise almost everything bewilders Hillary Clinton. Sure glad I am not American and have to make a choice between those two clowns.

Are all you guys going to keep this up until November? Regardless of the topic at hand, you all spout the SOS about Clinton and Trump. Day in, day out.

Already bored of it and there's months of it to suffer ahead too.

Isn't saying Hillary Clinton has been cleared of any wrongdoing kind of like like saying Justin Gatlin has been cleared of using any performance enhancing drugs?

Trump is a real piece of work. For example, who said this in 2006?

I just said, announce victory, get them home…Let's say, "Victory, Tremendous." Have a big thing in the streets. Then get out real fast before you get shot. Let's get home…Hey, hate us over there. Now how, how, do you—. The people that like us hate us. Those are the good ones. Then you have the double hate where they wanna just shoot us. But how do you solve that problem? You got to get out of Iraq.

Trump initially (kinda - something one can't do as president) supported the Iraq War then favored a quick withdrawal in 2006.

He supported the Libya war until he didn't:

I didn't mind surgical. And I said surgical. You do a surgical shot and you take him (Qaddafi) out.

He opposed getting involved in Syria, which may have been a good call, but all of these things are what he says have contributed to the rise of ISIS and the destabilization of the Middle East.

In other words, by his own admission, everything he would have done as president would have been a disaster. Except that he doesn't admit it. He just lies about what his positions were. It's an amazing performance.

Trump's foreign policy bewilders her because she, perhaps more than anyone in the world, appreciates its nuances and complications. She knows everybody. She knows where they came from and where they are going. She has been there and done that as First Lady and as a Senator and as Sec. of State.

What is foreign policy? Jenga? Monopoly? RISK? Probably more like Jenga than anything. Maybe Team Jenga where the goal is to not let the whole thing fall down. It has been that way since, what, 1940?

I think Trump thinks that foreign policy is marbles. A zero sum game where the guy with the most marbles wins, and then the game ends. You take your marbles, and you go home. Think about how much more sophisticated North Korea's foreign policy is than Donald Trump's. How did Idi Amin and Qaddafi view foreign policy? Probably two-dimensionally. I think Trump might do ok in Uganda or Libya, but the US has extremely complicated commitments and goals. There is just no way that Trump has done anything nearly so complicated. Even his outlook is wrong. National security is not the same as foreign policy. And if you can't do the latter, you can't have the former. I don't think Trump can even figure that out.

What bewilders me most is that both the GOP and democrats didn't pick anyone better than a nutjob and a hypocritical liar with a massive chip to represent them.

Trump makes hillary looks good, that's how bad he is/has been so far.

That may resonate with the white trash, but I'm a Democrat. You're going to need more substance in order for me to take you seriously.

So all White people are trash or conservative, I'm a bit confused? What about the minorities that support conservative causes, what are they called? Are they equally racists? This is very bewildering.

Being that Obama's and her foreign policy has been essentially non-existent for the past 8 years, I don't find her comments surprising.

If her foreign policy is representative of the norm, it exist only to enrich her political class (anyone know what Hillary's net worth is?), and those businesses it favors. Let's not forget that were it not for the support of Bill and Hillary, there would very likely have never been an Iraq war, and few such "policy" decisions have been more "bewildering" or harmful to the world in recent memory. Listen to Hillary speaking on the senate floor about the threat of Saddam's "WMD program," and how he must be stopped. Realize that the moron Bush had not been in office long, and was completely dependent on the intelligence and information passed on to him by Bill Clinton, and that the CIA director who said Saddam's WMD program was a "slam dunk" was appointed by Clinton, and not Bush. And realize that even in the Clinton administration, it was Hillary who wore the pants, and not Bill. Hillary chewed Bill a new butt hole when he pulled US troops out of Somalia in 1993 (I was there), and was determined not to let the US walk away from any conflict with it's tail between it's legs again.

Here are some quotes from the time.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

Funny that all we here nowadays is "Bush lied." But he was not the only one, and if Bush had to pay for his part in the Iraq war, so should the Clintons.

Trump may not be good, or even mediocre, but I don't think that we can rely much on Hillary's advice on foreign policy, which so far has caused far more harm than good.

I am bewildered by both candidate's foreign policy actually.

Ms. Clinton has no regrets about Libya as she stated below

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/04/14/hillary-clinton-has-no-regrets-about-libya/

While President Obama calls it his biggest regret.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/03/libya-is-obamas-biggest-regret-and-hillarys-biggest-threat/

In this case I agree with President Obama. As for the comment that states "That may resonate with the white trash?" What kind of statement is that and how does that add anything constructive whatsoever to a discussion among adults?

The implication seems to be that those of us the are either Independent (myself) or perhaps Replublican (bass4funk) are white trash. Perhaps the further elaboration can be provided.

Hillary Clinton vowed ... to conduct a national security and foreign policy that Americans could be proud of -- article

American voters already know Mrs. Clinton's positions on foreign and domestic policies. Her past actions speak louder than her words.

A President Clinton foreign policy will be one that is up for sale to the highest bidder; U.S. interests be damned. As for national security policy, on her watch as Sec. Of State, an ambassador was murdered by radical Islamic terrorists in Libya. If she didn't lift a finger to save one of her own employees, how can any American think she'll do anything to protect 330 million of us?

oh yeah, we know about Hillary's foreign policy. It is extremely simple, whoever donates to the Clinton Foundation gets access and favors.

@Tokyo-Engr

The implication seems to be that those of us the are either Independent (myself) or perhaps Replublican (bass4funk) are white trash. Perhaps the further elaboration can be provided.

I've never thought Independents are white trash, but the reason why people suspect many Republicans to be is their rabid devotion to Trump and their unnatural hate for Obama. Obama and Clinton are Neo-Liberals. They're what the center in America used to be before the Right started cynically pandering and lowering themselves to the uneducated, bible-thumping, gun-loving sector of America.

You guys accuse Obama and Clinton of being liberals, yet complain about their continued wars and corporate ties. Don't you get it? They're not that liberal. ObamaCare, his one big "progressive" achievement, used to be called RomneyCare. You guys make the same complaints against him and Clinton that the Left does, forgetting that the Right is worse on those counts. Seriously, since when was the Republican party not the party owned and operated by the 1%? Sure they hedge their bets, but most of their money goes to the GOP.

"But Trump is an outsider, he'll shake things up..." No, Trump is a reality show star. There are rumors coming out now that his initial bid for running was a publicity stunt for The Apprentice, but NBC backed out when he made the comments about Mexicans. Having effectively killed his TV show career, he decided to see how far he could get. And gullible Trump supporters let him get this far... At worst he'll destroy the country, and at best (I'm using the word loosely) he'll let his advisors (the establishment) run the country, because he has no idea what he's doing.

I half-heartedly support Clinton because she's better than the alternative and the true anti-war/anti-corruption fighters like Sanders and Warren believe they can work with her. And she can't be all bad if the Republican establishment hates her SO much. I don't vote in a swing state though, so I might vote Green in hopes of moving the Democratic party further left where it belongs.

@Mr. Bum

I am an Independent and not a Republican. Also I know of many Republicans that are against Trump.

You said, "You guys accuse Obama and Clinton of being liberals, yet complain about their continued wars and corporate ties."

I am not sure who you are referring to when you say "You guys"....I have never said Obama and Clinton are liberals and in a classical sense I do not think they are. If you are referring to me you have the wrong person.

Both parties are owned and operated by the 1% and thus I do not support Ms. Clinton nor Mr. Trump.

If you mean you wish to move the party further to the left to get rid of corporate cronyism we are in agreement there. I also believe in a National Health Care system as we have while living in Japan. On the other hand I think we have an issue with immigration and should do a better job of controlling our borders. Controlling the U.S. borders would help the lower and middle class.

@Tokyo-Engr

My apologies for grouping you with the others. I was trying to respond to multiple comments within the same response.

I agree that the establishment in both parties is owned and operated by the 1%, but there are degrees. And you have to admit the Democrats have more members who rail against it and who also command more respect (however begrudgingly) within their own party. I don't think it's a coincidence that Bernie Sanders chose to run as a Democrat despite his long history as an Independent.

As far as immigration, with Mexico, they wouldn't be coming if we weren't inviting and depending on them. With refugees, they wouldn't be coming if their homes weren't in rubble. It's a tough issue, and something should be done to protect Americans both economically and security-wise. At least we both agree that Trump isn't the solution.

@Mr.Bum. I can only speak for myself but for me this campaign is a single-issue decision. If Hiliary is elected she will grant amnesty to the 30-plus million illegal immigrants. Combine that with our "anchor baby" policy that allows a woman to walk across the border, have a baby and then use that baby to spondor dozens of "relatives." Such peopel vote Democatic by a margin of 10-to-1. If Hiliary is allowed to do so, then the Democratic party will have unquestioned power for the next fifty years. I am also an independent voter having voted for both Democrats and Republicans during my life but if Hilary wins then the US the world knows and depends upon will cease to exist. I know Trump could be a disaster is some areas but at least he won't grant amnesty and he may slow down illegal immigration.

@samwatters

So you're willing to elect a person who does mocking impersonations of the disabled, makes sweeping derogatory statements about ethnic groups, women, POWs, etc., lies habitually, shows little interest in actually doing the job of a President, shows no signs that he'll actually change any of the corruption he rails against, and never owns up to any of the numerous mistakes he makes just because he'll slow down immigration?

If so, let me tell you, America is stronger than that. We can deal with the problems of immigration without him. Amnesty to the 30-plus million illegal immigrants would take a lot of time. During that time we could deal with the underlying problems that bring the mmigrants in the first place. Like I said previously, there's mutual benefit going on. Our economy would suffer without them.

@Mr.Bum. No, I am wiling to elect a rude, ass of a person who will not allow for amnesty which will destroy the country we now know as America. And like many other commenters on this site you seem to fail to understand the difference between immigration and ILLEGAL immigration. They are not the same. The former is a boon to our country and most Americans know while the latter is not.

@samwatters

What do you think ILLEGAL immigrants do in America? Who do you think hires them?

So you're willing to elect a person who does mocking impersonations of the disabled, makes sweeping derogatory statements about ethnic groups, women, POWs, etc., lies habitually, shows little interest in actually doing the job of a President, shows no signs that he'll actually change any of the corruption he rails against, and never owns up to any of the numerous mistakes he makes just because he'll slow down immigration?

This is what I'm talking about when I say that Trump supporters are essentially the same as the rioters in Milwaukee. They are willing to burn down their country out of frustration with the status quo, and a feeling of being unable to change it.

The former is a boon to our country and most Americans know while the latter is not.

The latter actually has been a boon to the country, as the illegal immigrants are doing the jobs Americans don't want to do, at costs that the Americans aren't willing to do it for. If not for illegal immigration, Americans wouldn't be paying $7 a watermelon at the grocery store, they'd be paying way more than that.

This is way better than Saturday Night Live. The best comedy show for years must be the current presidential election. And the vitriol being exchanged here. Compulsive reading.

The following doesn't come from Fox "news" or Breitbart Bigly Lie factory, so the Trump people here had better avoid it. It relates verifiable facts, after all.

"Trump previously supported every single foreign policy decision he now decries.

Despite claiming daily that he opposed the Iraq War from the start, Trump endorsed deposing Saddam Hussein in a 2002 interview and there's no record of him opposing the war until after it had began. As for exiting the Iraq War, he said repeatedly in 2007 and 2008 that America should withdraw immediately and later recommended the same course for Afghanistan.

Turning to Libya, Trump recorded a video in 2011 demanding the Obama administration remove Gadhafi from power on humanitarian grounds. He went on to lie about his support for the Libya intervention in a Republican debate only to admit to it when confronted with footage of his old statements in a CBS interview. Finally, Trump called Mubarak's departure "a good thing" at the time before turning against the idea years later.

The result is that the only thing we know about Trump is that he's good at criticizing decisions by other presidents in hindsight. Unfortunately, this is not a very useful skill for the person tasked with making the decisions in the first place."

The candidate certainly represents to an Nth degree the sort of people willing to vote for him. That I will admit, sad, even sickening, though it is.

@Mr.Bum. I would love to see all company CEO's who hire illegals sent to jail. Both the Democrats and Republicans are against it which is why Trump beat out over ten established pols. I understand why illegals want to come to America; they simply want to improve their lives. Illegals are not evil; I understand that. However, granting amnesty to them---which is Hiliary's plan----along with open borders (something the Democrats are thinking about) will kill this country to the point where Americans begin to seek different shores.

@Strangerland. You wrote; "This is what I'm talking about when I say that Trump supporters are essentially the same as the rioters in Milwaukee. They are willing to burn down their country out of frustration with the status quo, and a feeling of being unable to change it."

You show a staggering lack of understanding regarding the US government. If you think Trump can kill the country on his own then I have good news for you! There is thing called "Congress." While they as a body are generally worthless, Congress does have the power to stop presidents when they want. Now remember how Obama and Bush and Clinton always complained about interference from Congress? Well, in comparison to Trump, these men were loved and honored! Just think of much interference Trump will get when he tries to do anything? Could Trump destroy the country? Naw. Could the Democrats do it by granting amnesty and possibly open borders (new Soros email leak you need to see!)........now we need to be worried!

I would love to see all company CEO's who hire illegals sent to jail. Both the Democrats and Republicans are against it which is why Trump beat out over ten established pols.

Trump has actually hired illegals (read: undocumented foreign workers), so that sentence doesn't make a lot of sense. Then again, nothing much about Trump supporters does.

Here's my theory: Trump beat out the "established pros" because a very large segment of the base of the GOP are bigoted whites and outright white supremacists. The pros in the GOP understand they could win among their dregs by appealing to that -- but there's also a general electorate to face.

Trump the amateur is finding this out, and the result ain't gonna be pretty. Trump may very well take the GOP down with him.

Gee yes, stopping illegal bombing of countries, supplying islamist "rebels" with weapons, and provoking Russia --- that surely must bewilder "we came we saw, he died, hahaha" Clinton.

What bewilders me is that are are people who seriously want to elect this woman to office and give her the nuclear football.

I don't get the argument that Obama's foreign policy has been bad. Foreign policy is never perfect, but I think I see what the administration has been trying to accomplish, and it has done pretty well. There is a whole cottage industry of pundits who want to second-guess things that have happened in the Middle East, but anyone who has been there knows what a mess that is.

Getting beyond that, Obama has made inroads for American interests on every continent. His administration is supportive of allies, and discouraging of bad behavior. What more will the world or the American people realistically allow him to do? Get past the punditry and the sniping from left and right, and US policy seems to be more normal than it has been in many years. Normal relations with Cuba. Hands off Venezuela. In a decade or so, we can probably expect Iran to be a more normal country. Like Vietnam or Malaysia.... and less like Carter's Iran. He encourages democrats and moderates and avoids rankling the hotheads in country after country.

The US and the world needs more of that. Humanity has a lot of work to do. Just quieting things down and getting people to work is going to make a lot of problems go away. War is in nobody's interest. Showing more nations that truth is the ultimate achievement of modern US foreign policy and national security policy. Hillary can do that. I don't think Trump could, and I am pretty sure he is too lazy to try.

5SpeedRacer:

" I don't get the argument that Obama's foreign policy has been bad. Foreign policy is never perfect, but I think I see what the administration has been trying to accomplish, and it has done pretty well "

You must be kidding. Critics warned from the beginning about the dire consequences of supporting the islamist rebels across the Middle East, and correctly predicted that the murder of Gaddafi would lead not a wonderful democracy but to another islamist hellhole. Exactly that has happened. Ditto for Obamas misguided Iran deal and hostage exchange.

"Pretty well"... well you could say that from the point of the islamists and globalists. Otherwise, good grief.

Could one of you Hillary/Obama suppporters please outline your reasons why you like HIllary without refering to Trump please?

I will. But first, I think its is important to point out that because she is not Donald Trump is reason enough to vote for her. Ignoring all the intricate domestic political squabbling, Trump would be a foreign policy disaster. No one who cares about US prestige and avoiding wars the restructure the international system, wars like the Napoleonic Wars, or WWII can allow that man near the US presidency. He is too ignorant and too erratic. Too much human life and misery is on the line.

I repeat: She is not Donald Trump. And we Americans have a choice between those two. One and only one of those two will be president. Nothing will change that. A protest vote for a third party candidate only matters in how it affect whether CLinton or Trump wins.

And Trump cannot win. Too much is at stake. They always say that, and this time its true.

So, really, one doesn't need a better reason to vote for HRC. And for those people who hate HRC so much that they are willing to allow that man to seize control of the US presidency, well, I have nothing to say to them other than they are terrible people.

IOW, ignoring the insane rhetoric against her, the worst thing that can be said of HRC is she is well within the status quo on economic issues and America's military role in the world. Depending on your perspective, she is too liberal on social issues, but from where I stand, she is a moderate, left of center centrist. When you look at the issues, the Democrats are mainstream, and the Republicans are extreme.

Most Americans support gay rights, access to abortion, increased health care for all, increased taxes on the rich, expanding social security and medicare, equal pay for women, increasing gun control, and keeping garbage being taught to our kids in science classes.

Those are mainstream Democratic positions. HRC supports all those. She's even championed more than a few.

That is the reason to vote for her.

The worse thing I can say about HRC is she is not a good campaigner, she's too much the technocrat, and IMO she is not enough of a Liberal Democrat. A good example of this caution is how she dragged her feat on equality for gays at a critical moment back in the mid oughts. I understand why she did that, but that is really the thing: I'd like my leaders to lead.

On the bright side, she and BIll know how to deal with the all the Washington b.s. and will get things done.

Bewilders HER ?!?! Rememer Benghazi !

More so in an election, where one candidate has the media in her pocket.

Not hard to do when the opponent is certifiably insane.

A lot of things bewilder Clinton. And a lot of things that she says and does bewilder others.

What's totally bewildering is how a woman can delete 30,000 emails, be shown to be a complete liar and extremely careless with national security, blame Benghazi on a video, show complete lack of ethics re Clinton Foundation which is a total scam, and even be so dishonest or mentally incompetent to say she was shot at when she wasn't - and yet most of the young people in the US give her a complete pass because they don't realise that the media just makes them think the way they want.

But she's a happy lady. If Michelle Obama were running, or even one of Obamas daughter's she'd be in trouble. But as they aren't, she doesn't have to do anything much. Just not say much at all because the American media does her campaigning for her.

Which is just as well. Nobody goes to her rallies. It's completely embarrassing. The media doesn't report on that though.

What is bewildering is how Clinton doesn't feel totally embarrassed that even with the media attacking Trump everyday and ignoring her "problems", she isn't winning by more.

Just wait till the debates come and they throw her easy questions. She still won't inspire.

It's not over yet. When she loses, hopefully she'll just keep going with ridiculously high-paying speaking gigs and fade away. But the clintons can't keep out of public life, so she'll be around doing something and bothering someone and .....raking in the dough. After all - she used to be flat broke! lol

"WA4TKG "Rememer Benghazi !"

"...Rememer"

Republicans and all "conservatives" play off the playbook of "strategies" that creationists wrote up after "Intelligent Design" flopped (in court - it never got anywhere in Biology).

Here we see one of the many basic "strategies" - Once you tell a lie, it can be brought up again as fresh evidence at any time, in any situation, no matter how clearly it has been disproved or shown to be a a fabrication.

The Trump people here - and everywhere - have nothing, but lies and hatred and fear-mongering.

Have you seen any of the people here touting Trump's recently presented (via a sloooww reading from teleprompters) economic plan?

I haven't even read more than passing mentions by them of his "immigration" policies, What about that wall, which was going to, at one point, get "1o feet higher" since other Americans objected to it?

Because even they have no interest in the man's positions or plans.

It's "Hillary is bad - because she's bad - because we've been saying she's bad for twenty-five or more years!"

Can they put together five sentences on a single subject that are about Trump's policies and their feasibility and effects, and which aren't about how awful Ms. Clinton or somebody else is??

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" The Trump people here - and everywhere - have nothing, but lies and hatred and fear-mongering. "

Sorry, but from my perspective it is precisely the other way around. The unhinged personal attacks on Trump and his supporters are so way over the top, it is beyond embarrassing.

Fwiw I am not American and have not vote in this spectable. I am just looking at the politics that these people represent (and yes, people not parties, because Trump in effect has to fight off BOTH party establishments).