Israel says it prefers diplomacy but ready to invade Gaza; death toll tops 100

Israel will prevail.

Serrano

Yes, Israel will prevail, with or without the so called international community's blessings.

Yes, Israel will prevail, with or without the so called international community's blessings.

Israel has shown scant disregard for what the International community thinks for a long time. Providing Uncle Sam stays firmly in it's corner, it will do whatever it wants.

Don't mess with Israel- --------------------------when Israel is attacked it will counterattacks and defend it's territory ......................... in, every Arab conflict with Israel since its inception, Israel has won...................

It is interesting that of all the states around Israel that it has no friends? To live in Palestine is the same as living in a concentration camp. The Palestinians have no rights other than those accorded to them by an oppressive state. Israel murders its opponents in violation of international law (which it ignores) or a fair trial. Why doesn't the state of Israel locate to the US and take a thorn out of the Middle East?

kurisupisu

Give me a break. If Hamas laid down its arms today there would be peace tomorrow. If Israel laid down its arms today there would be no Israel tomorrow. The ball's been on the Palistinian's court to work towards a mutual agreement for more than a few decades. If all they did was abondoned their all or nothing stance it would be a start.

USNinJapan2 Nov. 20, 2012 - 07:35AM JST Yes, Israel will prevail, with or without the so called international community's blessings.

Well, they are getting the blessings and all the weapons from the U.S. We only see one side of the issue on news. To help find a solution that lasts we need to be more objective and not throw all of our weight and money behind one side. You have to remember that for every Israeli killed by Palestinians, the Israeli side has killed many hundreds of Palestinians of whom the vast majority were civilians, and many of them were children. Higher Palestinian casualties could lead to an erosion of international support for Israel's right to defend itself from the Hamas rocket attacks,

sfjp330

You have to remember that for every Israeli killed by Palestinians, the Israeli side has killed many hundreds of Palestinians of whom the vast majority were civilians, and many of them were children. Higher Palestinian casualties could lead to an erosion of international support for Israel's right to defend itself from the Hamas rocket attacks,

And that is precisely why Hamas places their military targets in the midst of their civilian population and purposefully in the vicinity of schools, hospitals, etc. so as to force Israel to inflict collateral damage on the civilian population of Gaza. They do this proudly and admittedly knowing that the end result is the erosion of international sympathy for Israel and more for their cause. I point to your statement above proof of this. The Palestinians are fortunate that the Israeli's strikes are as surgical as they are. If they wish to no longer be in the crosshairs, they should choose to ask Hamas to move their rockets and command posts out of their neighborhoods. That's one choice the 40% of the Israeli population who live within reach of Hamas' indescrminate rocket attacks don't have.

Sure ISRAEL will prevail!! But will Israel ever break its own karma of violence?? Will the Muslims/Palestinians/Arabs also break with this karma of violence, revenge more violence?? This is what all humans must understand, it does not matter what color, what nationality, what race, sex, religion, NO BODY can escape from KARMA. So I do pray that one day all of these people can have peace. NMRK!! All violence is evil! Both the Jews, the Muslims, the XYZ people must learn to over come hatred, because it will only eat you from inside, the more you hate Jews, the more Muslims hate non Muslims, they are all hating and killing themselves, why?? Karma my dear amigos, karma.

After six days of conflict, Israel lost only 3 lives. Palestine lost more than 100. No one doubt that Israel has won and will win the every conflicts. It has always prevailed as bully and cold blooded butcher.However it has lose the international standing as decent nation. The whole world have seen many palestianian babies corpses. PM Netanyahu is a war criminal, son of saturn and pampered executioner of Uncle Sam. He will get many sleepless nights and he will be haunted by ghost of babies.

Hmmmm. Sounds like a smokescreen to me while they keep shelling Gaza indiscriminately. Look at Gaza - it is a flyspeck of barren land that srael "gave" to the Palestinians. anyone who thinks that it can somehow form part of a two nation solution to ths is just dreaming. like the homelands in apartheid era South Africa.

No one doubt that Israel has won and will win the every conflicts. It has always prevailed as bully and cold blooded butcher.However it has lose the international standing as decent nation. The whole world have seen many palestianian babies corpses. PM Netanyahu is a war criminal,

Well put.

Western puppet governments are still supporting these war crimes. But the people are gradually catching on. Pretty soon, Israel will have no friends in the world. Not even their megaphone will be able to counter the truth being told about what they are doing.

Israel says it prefers diplomacy, so why did they murder their enforcer Ahmed Jaabari, after they had negotiated a ceasefire. Why did they murder a child playing soccer. Why did they murder two children and then fire at their funeral. What kind of diplomacy is this???

And that is precisely why Hamas places their military targets in the midst of their civilian population and purposefully in the vicinity of schools, hospitals, etc

Yeah yeah, that is the excuse they always give for committing their atrocities. The Israelis have been caught lying sooo many times. Why does anyone still pay attention to what they say?

Why does anyone still pay attention to what they say?

Perhaps because Hamas makes it so easy for Israel to get away with anything? If Hamas renounced violence, renounced their charter that includes the goal of destroying Israel and agreed to negotiate for peace, Israel would be put under a strong spotlight and under huge pressure to submit to negotiations. However, Hamas just keeps letting things go they way they have. Why pay attention to either side? Is there really any point?

If anybody writing these comments ever been in Israel? what you dont understand is you are reading news in your safe houses. when you are there the truth is absouletly different, as a ex Israeli soldier who lives in Japan I ve been in this for years. what Phalestinians are doing is crazy. they areready to kill their own babies and kids just to show that Israel is cruel and their beloved kids and babies been murdered. they are not a human beings. they can kill their own kids and removethe organs and then staff it with explosives and leave iton the road so any Israeli car who sees the dead body on the road they stop and get blown up. is this human thing to do? If I was there without questioning I would wipe them out of the map. then there will be peace.

Israel will prevail their diplomacy as kill and kill and kill again. Israel is a killing machine. If they have used a powerful missile for wiping out a single militant and nine year old girl, there is no doubt that they will use nuke for wiping out real arm forces of enemy neighbor.They launched missile attack to one 82 years frail and old lady and blamed her as militant. If 82 years old lady can perform the militant activities, Christ will be reborn again in Bethlehem. The world will rejoice and angles will fly over Gaza and Jerusalem.

and angles will fly

I wonder, will they be right?

Dimplomacy is certainly cleaner than lobbing bombs at each other..a bit boring though.

I bet the guys in Washington wish Japan were as obedient as Israel.

Well said USNinJapan2.

There are many lopsided things happening in the area. People seem to forget the Islamists want Israel wiped off the map and regularly do everything they can to do so. If Israel wanted to do the same, the Islamists would not be able to hold onto their land.

Athletes, It is not that Israel is a killing machine. They just are professional in nearly everything they do, to include helping others and waging war. Sure there are extremists in Israel, but there is also a functioning government elected by a sane population and a rule of law to keep those extremists in check. Hamas is just a bunch of extremists in government clothing. To use a analogy/phrase that I hate, it is like putting lipstick on a pig. (No, I am not calling anyone a pig.)

Israel killed someone last week to start this last round of violence. He was critical to the import of the more accurate and longer range missiles from Iran. It was a smart move to kill him since he threatened civilians in Israel and endangered civilians in Gaza.

Israel basically has an real life terrorist state-government next door whose only request in a negotiation is for Israel to kill themselves or be killed. It is a losing negotiation and the stronger military power, Israel, will stop listening to unreasonable demands.

Israel is in a very bad situation, this is true. But all of this violence, maybe Iran is behind Hamas, etc..is all very bad. The US behind Israel for?? Not too sure what the USA can gain from protecting Israel, but in the end all of this violence will only make more violence, and this is NOT the way for humans to treat each other. Now, as the guy from the Israeli army says that Palestinians are NOT human?? So it is a lot easier to KILL others when you DEHUMANIZE your enemies, right?? I bet the Hamas etc..are filled with hate do not see Jews as humans, so as long as the 2 sides, both Jews and Muslims, both Muslims and Jews do not see each other as HUMANS we will only keep seeing the sick violence out of control from both of these warring parties.

People seem to forget the Islamists want Israel wiped off the map and regularly do everything they can to do so.

You are just repeating the usual zionist talking point. One thing that is irrefutable is that it is the Israelis who are wiping Palestine off the map. They have done it for most of the last century and they continue to do it today.

Israel killed someone last week to start this last round of violence. He was critical to the import of the more accurate and longer range missiles from Iran.

No, that guy was critical to prevent rockets from being fired. He was Israel's enforcer. He was murdered after they had negotiated a ceasefire.

Israel started this massacre on Nov 8, when Israel killed a Palestinian child. The Palestinians retaliated and injured some Israeli soldiers. Then Israel killed two more Palestinian children, and during their funeral Israel fired on the funeral tent. Israel started this massacre, just like they started the massive carnage a few years ago.

It is not that Israel is a killing machine. They just are professional in nearly everything they do

If they are professional, I wonder what profession that is...

zionist

A piece of advice: Using this word will have the exact opposite effect you are hoping for.

One thing that is irrefutable

I'll refute it. Hamas actually has Israel's destruction in their charter. Did you know that? Hamas says they do not want to make peace with Israel. Did you know that? Hamas has only suggested they would be willing to accept a non-renewable truce in exchange for the West Bank and Gaza. Then Hamas has said they would like to take the rest of Israel. So, yes I refute your one-sided argument. If you want to bad mouth Israel, it is your right. However, be realistic. Hamas has no interest in making peace and that is why this continues. It plays right into the Israeli right's hands. They do not have to make peace either or make any real effort because all they have to do is point at Hamas and the world forgives Israel.

Israel started this massacre

Come on, you really think that was the beginning? It has been tit for tat for years. Hamas shooting rockets, etc and Israel killing Hamas leaders and attacking large scale when the rocket number reached a certain judged level. You have obviously picked a side. However, I question your ignoring Hamas, their words and their actions. It is clearly not a one-sided affair.

I wonder what profession that is...

Hamas' profession seems to be to continue at all costs to avoid any chance of peace. Why would you ever seem to support that?

You are just repeating the usual zionist talking point. One thing that is irrefutable is that it is the Israelis who are wiping Palestine off the map. They have done it for most of the last century and they continue to do it today.

Sorry, but this is actually the Hamas talking point. Though considering how often they are accused of destroying Palestine, of genocide etc, just how ineffective they seem to be. Its almost as if they have another agenda entirely, and that Hamas and their terrorist friends who hate Israel, are actually making stuff up...

If they are professional, I wonder what profession that is...

Defending their country from the unceasing attacks by Hamas comes immediately to mind. Other then hiding behind the skirts of their women and children, desperately trying to get Israel to kill them, I wonder what Hamas is doing? Are they governing their territory? Are they working for the betterment of their citizens? It seems pretty clear to me, that their only objective here seems to be to get their own people killed, and force those who aren't, to endure ever greater hardships. Ah well, considering they elected these idiots themselves, the Gazans apparently want this.

avimazalto

If anybody writing these comments ever been in Israel?

I have.

Before I went to Israel, I had grown up watching the Western Media reports on the nightly news about Israel and Lebanon in the 80's and 90's, and because of the way the news was presented I considered Israel to be 'the good guys' and Lebanon and the Palestinians to be 'the bad guys'. But when I got to Israel, I realised something was very, very wrong with my perception. Which is the beauty of travel and experience - you get to see things for yourself, without the filter.

Which brings me to this;

they areready to kill their own babies and kids just to show that Israel is cruel and their beloved kids and babies been murdered. they are not a human beings.

I am astonished that nobody here has made comment on this, and I think people should be ashamed that they haven't. Because this reminds me of the kind of rhetoric used to describe the Jews prior to the Holocaust. It's an astonishing thing to say about people and it shows how extreme your views are. But it also shows how skewed the perception of the conflict is by the West that this passes without comment on a board like this which is mostly made up of Western posters.

When you start to try to dehumanize people to justify your ideology and position, you are wandering over the same ground that has led to some of the worst episodes of human history. As you should know.

they areready to kill their own babies and kids just to show that Israel is cruel and their beloved kids and babies been murdered. they are not a human beings

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I am astonished that nobody here has made comment on this, and I think people should be ashamed that they haven't.

I have to confess that I although I commented on the post after that one, I managed to not notice it. I am glad you pointed it out. I agree that this comment way out of line and ridiculous and sick and cruel at the same time.

When you start to try to dehumanize people to justify your ideology and position, you are wandering over the same ground that has led to some of the worst episodes of human history.

This is a main problem there I think. They have lost touch with the fact they are all human being. That is why this keeps repeating over and over again and why I am so sick of hearing about it. Both sides are so full of themselves that there are enough on both sides that are unwilling to budge that I think this will never be solved in our lifetimes. I appreciate you pointing out this post. This comment should never pass as acceptable.

For a couple of decades now, Gaza has basically operated as an independent state. It has elections, a government, school system, etc.

Well, when one state rains rockets down on another, that usually results in war. Israel should declare war, and eliminate all infrastructure in Gaza, and keep doing so until the attacks cease. I can think of no other nation on earth that would accept being constantly attacked by a neighboring state and not massively retaliate. The Israelis have been far too lenient and soft. Time to take the gloves off.

The Hamas leadership needs to learn that their are consequences for actions, and that if you want to be treated as a state then you had better start acting like one. If you kick a tiger in the ass, you need to have a damn good plan for dealing with its teeth.

Tamarama: because of the way the news was presented I considered Israel to be 'the good guys' and Lebanon and the Palestinians to be 'the bad guys'. But when I got to Israel, I realised something was very, very wrong with perceptions

Oh, do elaborate.

I am astonished that nobody here has made comment on this, and I think people should be ashamed that they haven't. Because this reminds me of the kind of rhetoric used to describe the Jews prior to the Holocaust.

It may not be what the original poster intended, but considering that Hamas deliberately places their rocket launch sites next to schools, and hospitals. Essentially trying to raise the civilian death toll, by hiding behind their the skirts of their women and children.... One side begs the other to kill children, the other side tries to avoid it. One side has no qualms about murdering any Israeli, or for that matter, anyone who they decide might sympathize with Israel. (Note what Hamas did to the guy today) The other side, again, tries to avoid it, going instead after those who provoke, and lead.

Its hard to look at Hamas as anything other then the bad guys. Fatah, though also a terrorist group, has at least decided to also try to be a government. Though horribly corrupt they at least seem to care about their people. Israel, pretty much only cares about themselves. I don't have a problem with that.

What about you, SuperLib? Been to any part of the Middle East?

Israel will teach Hamas the facts of life.

You ever been to any part of the Middle East, SuperLib?

Palestinians (Hamas) lynching fellow Palestinians who were accused of sympathizing with Israel. How can anyone support people who do such a thing? It's barbaric.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/israel-and-palestine/121120/israel-israeli-spies-gaza-lynch-mob-hamas-corpse-execution