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An adviser to the Romney campaign said, "I think there is extreme rhetoric on both sides of the political spectrum. I think the political process is best served if everybody tones it down. Not only those on the right, but also intolerant voices on the left."

Please. The left is now the center. Do not tar Democrats with the muck the right is slinging.

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The woman testified at a congressional hearing in favor of an Obama administration mandate that employee health plans include free contraceptive coverage.

Fluke's goal was never low-cost or free contraceptives. Her goal was to force a religious organization to go against their teachings and provide something that their religion is against. Why are liberals so willing to throw the First Amendment out the window?

RR

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Romeo, the question you should be asking is why are conservatives so ready to throw human and women's right out the window by wanting to ban abortion?

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The Liberal media continues to make it all about Rush...

Fluke's goal was never low-cost or free contraceptives. Her goal was to force a religious organization to go against their teachings and provide something that their religion is against. Why are liberals so willing to throw the First Amendment out the window?

RR, right on!

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How can any religion be against contraception? I can understand people's beliefs regarding foetuses. But contraception? Ar they also against masturbation and wet dreams? Good luck with stoping that. That kind of belief system is just beyond the pale of any reason.

Now, I accept that people can have cookie ideas, but there is no reason that they should be allowed to stand against reason and public health. Some things are more important than officially recognizing cookie ideas and giving them some kind of legal imprimatur. We're not living in the 1700's here.

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Fluke's goal was never low-cost or free contraceptives. Her goal was to force a religious organization to go against their teachings and provide something that their religion is against.

Where do you draw the line? Supposing my religious beliefs dictate that all medicine is evil, does that mean I can refuse all kinds of healthcare to my employees? That's why there are laws to stop democratically-elected governments from forcing a particular religious doctrine on to its citizens.

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Dear GOP Candidates,

Thank you for making the election all about your religious and moral issues. Thank you for once again proving that you do not care about women. And above all, thank you for your continued brilliance at pointing out just how backwards your philosophies are.

Thanks to you GOP candidates, it is almost certain that anyone other than a GOP candidate would have a better shot at the White House than any of you will. Your expert alienation of women, minorities and people with contemporary 21st century views of the world will assure that those votes will go to anyone other than the GOP candidate.

And as long as you let the likes of brother Rush set the tone for the party, well... no rational person will support you.

So keep up that good work GOP, you are doing more for assuring your party's defeat than the rest of us could ever hope to do. Well done GOP.

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"How can any religion be against contraception?"

I keep asking the same question. And the only answer that comes back, is "No rational religion would be against contraception." Which sadly means there are a lot of subscribers to very archaic and non-rational world views out there. Which should scare other Americans and the world.

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Religion and insurance should not be combined. Insurance should have to meet a universal standard of provision and coverage. It is then up to the religious person to elect or not not elect to use those services. But any registered employer should be bound to provide all standard care coverage.

Keep the flat earth nonsense out of the insurance question entirely.

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You'd think the economy, national debt, iran, and other important issues would be what the candidates are debating... Seems like the only issues any of the potential candidates are talking about are Obama's religion, homosexuals, and contraceptive use.

*rolleyes

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tkoind - "Dear GOP Candidates,..."

Totally agree. The GOP candidates are - quite simply - killing their own and their party's prospects of being elected simply by opening their mouths.

The longer this GOP nomination debacle wears on the better.

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depending on who you vote, it will be stagnation, same as it ever was or "Hello Middle Ages!"

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Where do you draw the line? Supposing my religious beliefs dictate that all medicine is evil, does that mean I can refuse all kinds of healthcare to my employees?

Sure, you should be able to do that. Where does it say that you must provide health insurance for your employees? Of course you should realize, that if you and I are in the same line of work, and we pay our employees about the same amount, and I provide health insurance, and you don't, then you realize I'll be able to poach your workers nearly at will.

But any registered employer should be bound to provide all standard care coverage.

Why should they? Why should it be the employers responsibility? Why is it not your own responsibility? If your employer doesn't offer coverage that you want/need, then go and buy a supplemental policy for yourself. Take responsibility for yourself.

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Very interesting discussion here. I wish that I having time for reply to all, but perhaps no.

@Laguna:

I think the political process is best served if everybody tones it down. Not only those on the right, but also intolerant voices on the left.

I'm not sure why you object to this statement. The hard left has been over the top with its rhetoric for many years now.

@RR:

Why are liberals so willing to throw the First Amendment out the window?

Because of a general disdain for and lack of respect for religion. Liberals generally do not believe in personal freedoms, they have laws that restrict free speech or freedom of worship.

How can any religion be against contraception?

Because God says NO.

You'd think the economy, national debt, iran, and other important issues would be what the candidates are debating

No. We must distract voters from real issues.Obama is strong on real issues,so we maintain focus on sideshow BS.

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"How can any religion be against contraception?"

Might have something to do with just being alive is the greatest gift the creator had bestowed on us.

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Rush Limbaugh is just an idiot with an audience.

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Sail - "Might have something to do with just being alive is the greatest gift the creator had bestowed on us."

I used to believe that too, until I realized I had no way of knowing who or what created me.

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Now we know why former Clinton staffer Stephanapolous brought up in the debates month ago the then completely irrelevent topic of the free contraception , and proceeded to grill romney for four minutes on the matter, The media complex , at the White House's behest, was searching for yet another wedge issue to divide the country with. These guys are good.You gotta hand it to em.

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Leibermann2012, even if you are correct about the "media complex" (what, pray tell, is that?), it's far more likely to have been red meat tossed to the wolves to throw the GOP so far off the key issues that they'd simply implode.

That sure seems to be happening.

Clearly, a very patriotic strategy crafted to ensure Americans don't have to suffer 4 more years of the GOP's radical anti-American policies.

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Romeor.....Making someone provide contraception is not the same as making someone use contraception. Just like food; no one is forced to eat junk food, or good food.

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I'm all for contraception, but I don't think it's a given that contraception needs to be covered by insurance.

But this was just a very clever strategy by the Obama administration. Brilliant actually. In fact, it could seal the election. Contraception doesn't need to be free. Most people can afford it, and if you can't there are places where you can get it.

But, by doing this they knew the Catholics would be against it, that the rest of the republicans would support them, and then the dems can just stake their election on the premise that the republicans hate sex, hate women, and are all trying to take the right to have contraception from people.

As for Rush, if a male demanded free condoms he would have called him a slut or something like that too.

And of course, the bigger picture is that so that Catholic institutions can have their freedom, the move for a government health insurance system will seem to be the best way out.

btw, is the pill and other contraception covered under the Japanese health insurance system?

For that matter what happens with vasectomies and tubal ligations etc? Are they covered?

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I demand free condoms!

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"How can any religion be against contraception?" - "Because God says NO."

Okay, there goes the election. Congratulations on your second term Pres Obama. When will religious people learn that you can't use God in your debates with non-religious people.

The comedy world is going to have a field day between now and the next election. This will make Palin Alaska jokes pale in comparison.

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Lieberman, missed your post, but you read it right. The right didn't see that coming. Just seemed like a crazy question at the time.

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How can any religion be against contraception?

Because less contraception means more babies, and more babies means more adherents to the religion. A no-brainer, really. Contraception is good for people and bad for religions. It's a prime example of religion favoring its own interests over the interests of its adherents and the general good of society. This is easily the most evil thing about religion. The single easiest way to reduce overpopulation, enhance health, and raise income and living standards is to empower women. I can forgive religion for its many pecadillos and irrationalities, but not this one.

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it’s “silly” to suggest that Limbaugh speaks for the GOP.

No, it's silly that this is true.

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yasukuni,

Okay, there goes the election. Congratulations on your second term Pres Obama. When will religious people learn that you can't use God in your debates with non-religious people.

Thank you for your comment. This is a very interesting topic to exchange many opinions about. But,truth is that America is Christian nation, and this must be reflected in public policy. Obama's attempts to subvert the First commandment will backfire.

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"But,truth is that America is Christian nation"

No it's not.

tt wasn't even founded on Christian principles.

America was founded by atheists.

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"America was founded by atheists"

No, America was founded by deists. There's a difference, Sushi. Check it out!

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j4p4nFTW,

I'm not sure why you object to this statement. The hard left has been over the top with its rhetoric for many years now.

Ah, but there is a big difference: the "hard left" is hardly representative of the Democratic party. Right-wing misrepresentation aside, Obama has been an extremely moderate president. Democrats in congress have since 2008 extended their hand on multiple occasions for good-faith negotiations, only to find the right slap it away and abruptly move the goalposts. Rhetoric on the right has left reality far behind: think of the unkillable brouhaha over Obama's supposed "foreignness."

Deny it all you'd like, but the proof is in the pudding: No Republican candidate is able to offer viable plans for America's future. All Republican candidates are required to toe an extremist line. The Republican party has marginalized itself through rhetoric and policy far too extreme for the taste of average Americans, and they are paying for it. Extremism does not come from the left - the left is the center. Extremism is exclusive domain of the right.

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think of the unkillable brouhaha over Obama's supposed "foreignness."

If only because Obama won't let people forget it. It is just one more way to divide us. He does that very well. better than any American politician I can recall.

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If only because Obama won't let people forget it. It is just one more way to divide us. He does that very well. better than any American politician I can recall.

Thank you for proving my point, Lieb. As an Angeleno, I find our first Hawaiian-born president more intuitively approachable than I ever found that Texan, Bush - but I never ascribed to Bush the "otherness" that the right has done to Obama. Your prejudice has irredeemably clouded your vision.

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As an Angeleno, I find our first Hawaiian-born president more intuitively approachable than I ever found that Texan, Bush

Intuitively, as in happening in your mind, your imagination. If he is so approachable why the need to hire a law firm to erase his past? When did he get all approachable for ya? No one at Columbia remembers Mr Approachable...

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If he is so approachable why the need to hire a law firm to erase his past? When did he get all approachable for ya?

You're doing it again! The way you go on, it's like you're discussing Bush's national guard service.

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Contraception is good for people and bad for religions.

Agreed, after all which one of us is actually glad that their parents forgot to use contraception when we we're conceived so that may think about religion in our live.

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It is odd that some people think that all American women crave is free condoms, or somehow find themselves aligned with a spoiled woman who has spent the last 8 years of her life as a college student attending an expensive university.

RR

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GOP strategist Phil Musser said the contraception debate "has been distracting and has sucked up too much political oxygen . . . it's nowhere near the top of what most Americans are most focused on right now," he said, describing it as a "short-term challenge."

Hey, Mr. Musser. Please do recall that the jackass who dragged this issue smack dab onto center stage to suck up that oxygen you're talking about is one of yours.

So, since we're on the topic of what most Americans are focused on right now, any GOP candidates with a solid plan for helping the American economy out of the doldrums?

Anyone? Anyone...? Perhaps Voodoo Economics...?

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Heh, and the limbaugh apologists continue. Nobody is helping more Obama's re-election campaign right now than Rush. Heh, the irony of it all.

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Where do you draw the line? Supposing my religious beliefs dictate that all medicine is evil, does that mean I can refuse all kinds of healthcare to my employees?

Sure, you should be able to do that.

No, you shouldn't. Matters of health policy decreed by a democratically-elected government which concern the whole populace should be applicable to the whole populace. By your logic, if my religion or personal beliefs dictate that women are evil, I should be able to refuse them employment (and they should accept this and go work for another company).

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Romeo - "It is odd that some people think that all American women crave is free condoms,..."

It sure is odd. What do you think all American women crave free condoms for?

Party balloons?

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Hey, Mr. Musser. Please do recall that the jackass who dragged this issue smack dab onto center stage to suck up that oxygen you're talking about is one of yours.

Actually, it was this jackass administration that first decided to pick a fight with the Catholic church over the providing of contraceptives. Obama's advisers knew that decision would cause quite a stir.

Obama's handlers know he cannot win re-election based on his performance record, so he dangled the contraceptives issue in front of his lemmings within the MSM and they jumped up and down and whined so much that none of the alpha bit networks are talking about unemployment figures, rising inflation or skyrocketing gas prices.

When this contraceptive non-issue dies down (and it will), expect more diversionary tactics from The One.

RR

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Actually, it was this jackass administration that first decided to pick a fight with the Catholic church over the providing of contraceptives. Obama's advisers knew that decision would cause quite a stir.

He got you guys good, didn't he? You should have just bent over and took it, but instead the GOP has decided to horribly immolate itself on this issue, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Its the worst politics I've seen in decades.

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"but instead the GOP has decided to horribly immolate itself on this issue, and I can't for the life of me figure out why"

Neither can they.

The newly radicalized GOP had their brief moment of power, but simply shrieking people down and obstructionism in the face of the rubble of the Bush W regime is starting to take it's toll. And rightfully so. I'm still hoping this, coupled with a likely Obama re-election could make the party implode, with the intelligent consrvatives leaving the screaming hate-mongers and forming their own moderate conservative party. That would be democracy I'd like to see.

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Might have something to do with just being alive is the greatest gift the creator had bestowed on us.

Oh dear.

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Limbaugh is, and has always been, a joke. From failed radio DJ to Conservative Talking Head. (Seriously?! How bad do you have to be to get fired from spinning records all day?) He's always touting his "EIB Network", which he says stands for "Excellence In Broadcasting". Apparently calling people "sluts" and "prostitutes" for trying to give their point of view to Congress counts as "Excellence in Broadcasting". Only in your little mind, Rush. Only in your little mind.

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Agreed, after all which one of us is actually glad that their parents forgot to use contraception when we we're conceived so that may think about religion in our live.

Your parents forgetting to use contraception when they conceived you doesn't prove the existence of any God,

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Joe Scarborough agrees with me, apparently:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/05/joe-scarborough-contraception-rush-limbaugh-republicans_n_1321082.html

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“There’s extreme rhetoric on both sides of the political spectrum. I think the political process is best served if everybody tones it down, not only those on the right but also intolerant voices on the left.”

This is a bunch of crap. Talk about your false equivalencies. Who on the "left" has gone on air and called someone a slut or prostitute. No one. This is about the right wing of America and their hate speech. Don't try to drag the rest of us into it.

There are, indeed, liberal commentators however, they are professional in there duties and accountable for their actions. When are we going to see Rush or Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly or Pat Robertson or Andrew Breitbart (actually justice...or cocaine caught up with ol' Andy) contrite? And where is there equivalent on the left? Who is as bad as them? No one. They are the worst so this false equivalicy crap isn't going to fly.

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The hard left has been over the top with its rhetoric for many years now.

In your opinion. The same opinion that had nothing wrong with Rush calling a woman a slut and a prostitute on air.

So, excuse me as I excuse your opinion.

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Your parents forgetting to use contraception when they conceived you doesn't prove the existence of any God,

My not actually prove existence of any God but it sure proves my existence though, I'm pretty happy about that.

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Why are liberals so willing to throw the First Amendment out the window?

So...because she wanted birth control she no longer wants Freedom of Speech, Religion or any of that stuff anymore?

Do you think about what you post or do you have a file of nonsense from which you draw?

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My not actually prove existence of any God but it sure proves my existence though, I'm pretty happy about that.

Yes, well done, you understand the basics of reproduction. So contraception is evil, because it nearly impeded you being conceived? (Thank God Mom forgot to take her birth control pills that day!) Give me strength.

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Fadamor,

He's always touting his "EIB Network", which he says stands for "Excellence In Broadcasting".

He's also always bragging about having 20 million listeners. But what is that? Daily? Bwahahahaha. Weekly? No freaking way. Monthly? I'd say we're in the zone. Bi-monthly? That's where I put him at.

He's lost 9 sponsors over his misogynistic comments. If he had 20 million daily, those sponsors would tell the people writing them to pack sand.

9 sponsors as of today and I'm going full tilt to get him off AFN. I'm going to write letters to everybody, including Rush's mother to get him off AFN.

He's bad for good order and discipline of the troops.

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So contraception is evil, because it nearly impeded you being conceived?

If you put like that I'd have to...ummm......errrr,,,,say yes. I certianly wouldn't call contraception a good thing in my case if it was used to prevent me from existing and being here to discuss this issue with you.

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Obama's chief political strategist suggested the Limbaugh's reaction - and Republicans slow repudiation of his comments - would benefit Democrats in the general election this fall.

When you got a commander-in-chief who has been one of the worst in history, taking negative credit seems logical.

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If you put like that I'd have to...ummm......errrr,,,,say yes. I certianly wouldn't call contraception a good thing in my case if it was used to prevent me from existing and being here to discuss this issue with you.

Contraception isn't bad because someone forgot to take it one day and ending up giving birth to a child. Or would condoms also be bad too if it was the case that it broke when your father was wearing one and THAT was what led to you being conceived? Oh wait, you're a Christian, so I should probably guess the answer in advance. Separation between church and state, learn what that is. If contraception is so evil, then don't buy it (and this applies to condoms too).

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If contraception is so evil, then don't buy it (and this applies to condoms too).

Not an option when it's mandated by the Government for any health insurance policy anyone purchases. Pretty much the whole point as to why I'm totally oppose to this intrusion of Government into peoples private lives even if their morals are different than mine. Not sure where you think I am a Christian though because I'm not. But I do believe that there is a creator behind it all and we just inhabit a tiny little rock rotating around a mundane star in the vast universe. And I stand in awe of it on a starry night away from the city lights when I can look up at it and realize how wonderful the gift of life really is to be able to see it and be humbled by view.

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@sushi

"America was founded by atheists"

By atheists, theists and deists -- all of them secularists, too.

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Not an option when it's mandated by the Government for any health insurance policy anyone purchases. Pretty much the whole point as to why I'm totally oppose to this intrusion of Government into peoples private lives even if their morals are different than mine. Not sure where you think I am a Christian though because I'm not. But I do believe that there is a creator behind it all and we just inhabit a tiny little rock rotating around a mundane star in the vast universe. And I stand in awe of it on a starry night away from the city lights when I can look up at it and realize how wonderful the gift of life really is to be able to see it and be humbled by view.

You don't seem to understand the concept of separation between church and state. You pay taxes which go into health care. This is the 'state'. If this health care involves the distribution of the pill, then you as a Christian, Muslim, or whatever, can refuse to take the pill. This is the 'church'. And I notice you haven't agreed that condoms are bad like you said about the pill? Looks like we've got double standards here. I'm also humbled by our 'creator' when I see tens of thousands die each year in the world's richest country because they are denied access to a human right.

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You don't seem to understand the concept of separation between church and state. You pay taxes which go into health care

Ummm.....You don't seem to understand that separation between church and state means that Churches and Religious institutions are Tax Exempt. The founding fathers made that way so they couldn't have the power to meddle in their affairs through coercion and taxation and that they couldn't meddle in Government affairs through religious doctrine.

I'm also humbled by our 'creator' when I see tens of thousands die each year in the world's richest country because they are denied access to a human right.

Sorry, fails the logic test. You have to be born first to have human rights, birth control for a potential human makes that a non-starter.

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I'm also humbled by our 'creator' when I see tens of thousands die each year in the world's richest country because they are denied access to a human right

. You see them ? Where ? Take 320 miilion in Europe (equiv to the US population) and compare the health care they get. US wins hands down.

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Ummm.....You don't seem to understand that separation between church and state means that Churches and Religious institutions are Tax Exempt. The founding fathers made that way so they couldn't have the power to meddle in their affairs through coercion and taxation and that they couldn't meddle in Government affairs through religious doctrine.

And yet these same religious institutions are looking to seek government funding while not paying taxes themselves. The hypocrisy is mindblowing. If the churches are exempt, then non-religious taxpayers can say they don't want to pay for these churches and this can apply to a whole host of other things taxpayers suddenly feel isn't in their interests to pay for. Sadly, hypocrisy and double standards are nothing new to religions, they actually tend to be the hallmarks. And you're forgetting that Georgetown University is a school, many of the people employed are atheist or agnostic, and even with its religous affiliations, it is not exempt from following the laws which clearly outline the separation between church and state.

Sorry, fails the logic test. You have to be born first to have human rights, birth control for a potential human makes that a non-starter.

Sorry, but your logic test fails logic. Humans rights don't apply to those who don't exist. I notice you still haven't said anything about condoms. Don't wear them from now if birth control 'for a potential human makes human rights a non-starter'.

. You see them ? Where ? Take 320 miilion in Europe (equiv to the US population) and compare the health care they get. US wins hands down.

You see these victims of government policy every time you see a run down neglected ghetto or slum or simply by looking at the facts of tens of thousands dying because they can't afford health insurance. What Americans like you don't understand is that 'Europe' is made up of different countries, regardless of the EU and eurozone. And yes, they put America's heatlh care system to shame, since your country has the overall worst in the developed world.

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I notice you still haven't said anything about condoms.

Condoms, I'm not going to force a Catholic guy to wear one if he doesn't want to or pay for one and him and give it to him. I am also not going to provide him any assistance in putting one on either. Maybe the Govt can mandate that part also for him and give him a state employee "provider" for the service.

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Condoms, I'm not going to force a Catholic guy to wear one if he doesn't want to or pay for one and him and give it to him. I am also not going to provide him any assistance in putting one on either. Maybe the Govt can mandate that part also for him and give him a state employee "provider" for the service.

Nice try, but condoms aren't medication, unlike the pill. You were talking about how bad the pill was because if your mother didn't take it that one day, you wouldn't have been born. Well then apply that same standard to condoms.

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I'm also humbled by our 'creator' when I see tens of thousands die each year in the world's richest country because they are denied access to a human right.

Wrong. Free speech is a right. I can refuse to listen to what you say or disregard it. Likewise, your freedom to practice your faith is a right. It does not or shall not infringe upon my choices in that area.

Health care is not a right because it involves obligation and unlawful punishment.

If I refuse a complete stranger's "right" to health care, something the the US gov't is trying to FORCE me to purchase, I am fined or jailed , in the future perhaps even stripped of citizenship or even executed. The current occupant of the WH wants me to pay for people who are in the US illegally.

It is you who do not understand.

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Nice try, but condoms aren't medication, unlike the pill.

Agreed they are better than medication as they prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases (STD's) ranging from Herpes to AIDS. Diseases once contracted carry a huge cost in medical care and bills. Requiring a mandate for all males to use one if they wish to be insured would lower healthcare costs dramatically.

Mandating birth control coverage for woman does not lower the STD's and in fact encourages the spread and is not cost effective and does not fall into the category of preventive medicine. Condoms do fall into the category. So oginome given that and since males really aren't down with using them I'm thinking a mandate for a Govt provider to ensure a man is wearing one before recreational sex would be just the ticket to ensure lower health costs for all. It will also provides jobs for the unemployed that have been left savaged after the Bush years.

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Wrong. Free speech is a right. I can refuse to listen to what you say or disregard it. Likewise, your freedom to practice your faith is a right. It does not or shall not infringe upon my choices in that area.

Health care is not a right because it involves obligation and unlawful punishment.

If I refuse a complete stranger's "right" to health care, something the the US gov't is trying to FORCE me to purchase, I am fined or jailed , in the future perhaps even stripped of citizenship or even executed. The current occupant of the WH wants me to pay for people who are in the US illegally.

It is you who do not understand.

Health care is a human right, of course a right wing American wouldn't recognise this. Bur gun ownership IS a human right though, right even though I'm pretty sure obligation and punishment is involved there? This beggars belief.

Agreed they are better than medication as they prevent the spread of sexually transmitted diseases (STD's) ranging from Herpes to AIDS. Diseases once contracted carry a huge cost in medical care and bills. Requiring a mandate for all males to use one if they wish to be insured would lower healthcare costs dramatically.

Mandating birth control coverage for woman does not lower the STD's and in fact encourages the spread and is not cost effective and does not fall into the category of preventive medicine. Condoms do fall into the category. So oginome given that and since males really aren't down with using them I'm thinking a mandate for a Govt provider to ensure a man is wearing one before recreational sex would be just the ticket to ensure lower health costs for all. It will also provides jobs for the unemployed that have been left savaged after the Bush years.

Once again, you do not understand, the pill is a form of medication, it is not just used as a form of contaceptive but is used to treate a range of disorders and illnesses.

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The Truth - I can't believe Rush apologized to that slut, ha ha! Seriously, Rush said he made the mistake of lowering himself to the level of the people he opposes, and used inappropriate words and for that he is sorry.

What I want to know is when is Obama going to apologize for the tremendous damage he's done to the finances of the United States?

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You know who benefits from Rush Limbaugh's comments? Mitt Romney.

Rush's misogyny has kept his wife Anne's attempts to out-Mitt the Mittster when she declared that she didn't consider herself wealthy. Another Romney out of touch with the people moment. The lady owns several dressage horses and 2 caddies and her husband is worth $250 million and she doesn't consider herself rich.

Now THAT'S rich!

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Rush's misogyny has kept his wife Anne's attempts to out-Mitt the Mittster when she declared that she didn't consider herself wealthy.

Since the truth actually matters: She has multiple sclerosis she is talking wealth of spirit not material things such as money.

"[O]ne thing this disease has been for me has been a wonderful teacher," Mrs. Romney said during an interview on Fox News. "And with that comes an ability for compassion for others that are suffering from M.S. or cancer or any disease I feel like I want to throw my arms open and say, welcome to my family and welcome to the place where I've been and, so you know, we can be poor in spirit and I don't look – I don't even consider myself wealthy which is an interesting thing. It can be here today and gone tomorrow…"

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Another good post from sail. "Truth" is getting quite a lesson here.

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