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© (c) Copyright Thomson Reuters 2015.Trump calls Clinton 'liar' over Islamic State recruiting claim
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TumbleDry
Well, he actually does help them proving there is a religion war...
CrazyJoe
Oh please Santa, make this one wish come true for Christmas.
Have the Republicans nominate Trump!
gokai_wo_maneku
But I'm sure that secretely Trump is really sooooo proud that his name is becoming so well known over there. He is so IMPORRRRRRRTANT and BIIIIIIIIIGGGGGG!!
nostromo
The word "liar" has many elastic meanings for Mr Trump not to mention the concept of "thin air". His whole campaign revolves around "thin air" ... sorry - hot air.....
OssanAmerica
Trump is certainly full of hot air, But Hillary has a long long history of being a liar, when it comes to gaining votes or protecting her rear end. Me, I'm still looking for that "vast right wing conspiracy".
kcjapan
Donald J. Trump, haberdasher, television personality, bigot, is upset about something? How strange.
Another observation might thump Trump . . .
"Last week, Trump made headlines first by pledging to ban Muslim immigration, then by praising Japanese internment during World War II. In doing so, he made clear that the national greatness he is so eager to restore is a function of racial exclusion and vilification." - Nicole Hemmer - U.S. News & World Report - Sunday, December 20, 2015
Expect Trump to continue his angry bigoted provocations to incite the hot dog vendor Trump-luddites in their antagonism based on prejudice and hate..
"Republican political strategist Frank Luntz held a focus group for CBS News made up entirely of Muslim-Americans to find out how they were feeling in the wake of increased inflammatory political rhetoric. The bulk of the members in the group said they felt afraid for their physical safety." - Ismat Sarah Mangla - International Business Times - Sunday, December 20, 2015
If this is the Republican'ts pick, it's not likely Trump will be much more than a pariah the rest of his life. He's well along that path already.
All his racism from the Trump 'Birther Campaign' is hard to wash off it seems. Ignorant bigots obviously need each other, considering how sickening they are to everyone else.
Sounds like Trump's complaint is either ISIS doesn't know about his idiot rants or they haven't bought Trump tee-shirts yet. (At leaste Putin indorsed him.)
Either way, Trump's always angry about something. Careful Donald, you'll have a thrombosis. (That'll give Carson something to do at leaste.)
Danny Bloom
Trump is not about "thin air". He's all about "thin hair."
pointofview
The media should be holding Clinton to the fire for her ridiculous lie/lies. They wont though because of the double standards between libs and conservatives. Shell have to prove her point. Twisting the facts again.
WA4TKG
Which is WORSE ? Not allowing Muslims in and pissing some people off ( they KNOW WHY he is doing it ) or ALLOWING entry and having the country blown up ?
katsu78
Hillary had to go and do something stupid like make Trump right about something. Now we'll never hear the end of it.
SenseNotSoCommon
Trump trashes greenhouse.
karlrb
There are many ways that all politicians lie, but Hillary is right near the top of the pyramid of political liars. Personally I don't care for Trump or Hillary, but Hillary just seems like the status quo of political behavior that many of us find repugnant; repugnant enough to vote for the 'other' candidate. I would have hoped that America could present and vote for some candidates for President that are of a higher caliber.
kcjapan
Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump is "becoming ISIS's best recruiter" during Saturday night's Democratic debate.
"They are going to people, showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists," she said during the ABC News debate.
The Democratic frontrunner explained that she's worried that GOP rhetoric is sending a message to Muslims everywhere "that there is a clash of civilizations, that there is some kind of Western plot or war against Islam."
Clinton said she believes that message "fans the flames of radicalization."
Poor Donald! STOP the PRESS! Donald's feelings are hurt! Laughable. What a cry-baby. "Boo-Hoo Madame Clinton doesn't like me!"
What a bigoted clown. When his racist fan base learns to read they'll still be racist bigots cheering their racist bigot heroes. The Republicans can say good-bye to their iron fist control of Congress if this angry orange faced shrieking bigot gets the Party endorsement. (Maybe his hot dog vendors will threaten Civil War again. Pathetic.)
Serrano
"Hillary Clinton’s remark was based on evidence that supporters of the extremist group frequently cite Trump’s comments to make the case that Americans hate Muslims."
Yeah, the extremists and their supporters want everyone to believe that the vast majority of Americans, including Trump, hate all Muslims.
JeffLee
Not sure about her logic. The Jihadis were recruiting and targeting to kill Americans since before 9/11 and any of the Trump-style rhetoric or fear-mongering existed, when Americans paid no attention to Muslims. And that complacency among Americans allowed the 9/11 attackers to do what they did.
Regardless of what stance Americans take, the Jihadis will always come up with a narrative justifying their violence and intolerance.
LFRAgain
You mean something like, say, the Benghazi attack or Clinton e-mail server *"investigations?"
{coff! coff!}* :-)
Meanwhile, Clinton lied about nothing. She made a perfectly reasonably prediction of how Trump's idiocy would be received by people sympathetic to ISIS and their particular brand of madness.
For every statement Trump the Demagogue™ makes that marginalizes Muslims, it becomes one more talking point for ISIS recruiters to convince young, impressionable morons that this "caliphate" they're carving out in blood across the Middle East really is some sort of legitimate and viable sanctuary for Islamic castaways, and one worth taking up arms for. Trump is only exacerbating the problem with his B.S.
Wc626
Not really. Hilary and Trump had beef before this. Rather, her feelings are still hurt when Trump said: "How can she satisfy the american people when she couldn't even satisfy her husband."
LoL. If Hilary is elected, who's gona "go down" on her?
Conspiracy Theories
Wc626. LOL! That was hillaryous!
kcjapan
"A report from the Arabian Business said that retail giant Landmark Group has sparked a Muslim boycott of sorts by ceasing its sales of the presidential candidate’s products in its 160 stores across Libya and Pakistan."
"(Trump) just forged a deal with Landmark Group earlier this year for the retailer to sell his products in the UAE, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia. In addition, Al Habtoor Group owner Khalaf al-Habtoor said that he has also withdrawn his support for the Republican presidential candidate because of his remarks against Muslims."
“If he comes to my office, I will not let him in. I reject him,” said al-Habtoor, who previously showed his support for Trump’s presidential bid."
"Al-Habtoor added that the businessman and TV personality is also “creating hatred” between Muslims and the U.S., which is not a good sign. He added that the mix of strength, ignorance, and deceit will become a threat to the United States and the world."
source: http://www.inquisitr.com/2623062/donald-trump-business-empire-hurt-by-stance-against-muslims/
Like it or not, Trump-luddites can cry-baby their ignorant whining all they wish.
Trump's bigoted rants has have a very clear effect. "the businessman and TV personality is also “creating hatred” between Muslims and the U.S.," - as quoted, this from an influential a one time supporter of Trump.
Madame Clinton is not far wrong and Al Habtoor Group owner Khalaf al-Habtoor confirms the depiction of Trump as a source of hate. Which he obviously is.
The Party of Hate has their Messiah, Donald J. Trump. Americans aren't interested in his ignorant cry-baby supporters or his bigoted fantasy of dictatorship.
Wc626
Not really. I wouldn't call it "whinning". In case you've haven't noticed, the 2016 elections are pretty darn entertaining. Like watching the hunger games.
@pointofview, good comment.
Lizz
hey wont though because of the double standards between libs and conservatives. Shell have to prove her point. Twisting the facts again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlRTCxMAqC4
Trump’s explanation of the Iran deal was breathtakingly insightful and straightforward. It was about the last two minutes.
That was as thorough a takedown of the media as I have ever seen. He really exposed the elitist echo chamber during that interview today. Amazing to witness.
Stunning Stephanopuolos couldn’t follow the thought of Obama and Hillary being responsible for many, many deaths because of the Arab Spring they supported after the stupid decision to pull out of Iraq. Brain dead stupid. And they have the gall to act as if Trump is the ignorant one. Wow.
plasticmonkey
Sure, but why fan the flames?
sfjp330
FarmboyDEC. 21, 2015 - 12:01PM JST It's an unsupported claim. That doesn't mean it's a lie.
If you feel that way, why don't you tell us it's not a lie.
Laguna
Let's parse the quote and note the future tense:
It is if anything a prediction. Calling someone a "liar" for a prediction is a rather slippery slope. It does, though, fall neatly into an important narrative, one so important that even W got it right: This is a struggle against extremists, not against Islam. If Trump disagrees with this idea, he should man up and say so; if not, he needs to cut down on the harmful rhetoric. As usual, all he can do is insult.
SuperLib
Maybe Clinton saw a video of ISIS in New Jersey cheering Trump's name. Tens of thousands of them.
Uh huh. Have you heard Fiorina's statements about Planned Parenthood videos she's "seen"? Or much of what Ted Cruz claims? Or trickle-down economics?
Black Sabbath
Clinton is a liar. Trump never makes things up. Thousands of Muslims rioted for joy in New Jersey on 9/11.
Mexicans are rapists.
Vote Republican.
pointofview
@Farmboy,
Nice twisting. Doesnt work that way when it isnt Dems eh?
@Laguna,
Hillary can predict the future? Sure. Similar to milk being a gateway to beer right? The recent budget deceived tens of millions of Americans yet people are complaining about an unknown possibility that speaking the truth pisses of ISIS? Wow! Priorities seem to be mixed up.
@Superlib,
They called her out. Dont support her. What does Cruz claim specifically? He has said so much. Trickle down economics doesnt work because theres too much corruption and people let it be for too long because they didnt pay attention and hold their reps responsible.
gokai_wo_maneku
Remember with Hillary, you get Bill! With Trump, you get Ivanka. Which do you want?
Black Sabbath
Ivnaka Humpalot.
lostrune2
When's the last time Trump made things up?
edojin
According to TV reports from the U.S., Hillary did lie on this one. As for her many other lies ... well, it seems to be an ongoing story ...
Madverts
Sounds like Trump's got blood coming out of him.
I hear being a blow-hard is the number one cause of reccuring incurable haemorrhoids.
CrazyJoe
Trump simply hitched his wagon to the ongoing trend among conservatives: Say something audacious, and when you get called on it double down. Being GOP means never having to say you're sorry apparently. And never having to deal with the truth. There are enough buffoons out there who will follow you no matter what, even if you call your audience stupid, as Trump did once in Iowa.
kcjapan
The GOP Shia-Tea has cry-babied their "liar" chant for thirty years.
Trump cry-baby's another chant. Nice to see something fresh from the Party that gave America Sarah Palin as a dolt punching bag.
True to form, The Republican'ts create another punching clown. This one is orange, angry and bigoted. Everyone needs a hero. Trump is the best thing racists have since Jim Crow.
It is worth repeating: Trump's bigoted rants has have a very clear effect. "the businessman and TV personality is also “creating hatred” between Muslims and the U.S.," - as quoted, this from an influential a one time supporter of Trump.
source: http://www.inquisitr.com/2623062/donald-trump-business-empire-hurt-by-stance-against-muslims/
The world has seen enough of this bloated orange clown. He has driven the GOP to a new level of dumbed down politicking. Dumb enough for racists and bigots to understand. That's not an important "conversation" in democracy, that's putting a clown suit on racists. Too bad none of it is the slightest bit funny.
Kurobune
@lostrune2 - Every time he opens his mouth !
Chop Chop
Don't let your children see and hear when politicians bitching each other to win for leadership position. They are all liars anyway. Why should peoples have to choose President from bad behave politicians?
Kansaicoon
I don't see how this guy is leading the polls for the Republican nomination. It's still a mystery to me. Why would anyone vote for him? This is not the guy you want as commander and chief !
bass4funk
That's because you have a president that is one of the worst in the nations history as well as weak and now you have a woman that's a habitual liar and a possible criminal that is not well liked. It's only natural that a lot of people look for someone with strength and as loud and bombastic as Trump is, he projects strength and the people will always go with the stronger horse.
kcjapan
"as loud and bombastic as Trump is, he projects strength" - commenter from California
And one heck of a record of racism, prejudice and bigotry.
"people will always go with the stronger horse" - commenter from California
Stronger, richer and apparently as detestable as anything the GOP Shia-Tea has cobbled together since the Iraq War.
Every one needs a hero.
Some Love the Trump so much, and hate the sitting President so much, JT probably provides the cheapest avenue for anger management.
Is this another sign the Rapture is nigh? Or was that George W. (AWOL) Bush?
SuperLib
Trump appeals the racism and bigotry in the Republican Party where Mexicans are rapists and Muslims need to be banned. They love that kind of stuff. The euphemism they use is "tough talk".
Wolfpack
@plastic
You mean like destabilizing Middle Eastern governments like Libya, drone attacks, and bombing hospitals? By Hillary's logic she and Obama have been practically sponsoring Islamist recruitment all by themselves.
Madverts
Wolf,
Didn't you support invading Iraq? I mean like really really support it? Didn't that bomb hospitals too?
Furthermore wasn't that the chain reaction that created the so-called Islamic State?
Y'know for someone who recently said he was proud of voting W Bush and would do so again in an instant I have to commend you for your honesty. But not for your intellect.
Modern day Republicans have a culture of non-accountability that would make a radical French socialist blush.
PTownsend
What's fascinating to me is the hard of thinking in the rightwing have revised history to say the problems in MENA started 7 years ago. They still believe Bush 43's 'Mission Accomplished' sealed the deal. But then these are people who want someone else's children to fight the US's perpetual wars so they can continue to get cheap petrol for their V-12 Hummers.
Madverts
PT,
I think "they" became enraged that old man McCain lost to a landslide to an eloquent, intelligent half black man. Something he might not have lost had the GOP make him pick an insane running mate. Heh. and the insane wing still love her.
And then they became "independent" conservatives as the GOP wheeled out a freak show in '12. Embarrassment? Denial?
I said at the time they had written off the '12 elections and were getting rid of the Duracell candidate Romney in one swoop, but little did they know their racist, bigoted disciples were primed for the insanity of Trump. Bitten by their own bullshit they are. And I'm loving it....
kcjapan
"little did they know (the GOP) their racist, bigoted disciples were primed for the insanity of Trump." - comments
With respect, please note quote presented below:
"In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper this June, Trump appeared to try to avoid the topic, but ended up being unable to stop himself from commenting when asked about his 2011 birther push."
""I really don't know. I mean, I don't know why he wouldn't release his records. But you know, honestly, I don't want to get in it," Trump said."
source: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-raising-birther-questions-president-obama/story?id=33861832
A moment of perspective. Trump has pushed the racist 'Birther' and been quizzed on it since 2011. FOXNews rode the coat tails and now, the Republican'ts are surprised? "Little did they know?"
Trump's liar campaign is just an extension of his past five documented years of finding out just how stupid the GOP Shia-Tea are. The world has already answered that. Pretty damn stupid.
Trump has the endorsement of racists and bigots, is that the America of the Republican'ts? You bet your assets.
Or, is that just being coy? Coy? Trump isn't being coy.
SuperLib
A few months ago the Republicans here started talking about Hillary and the decision to oust Ghaddafi. What that means is that the bubble decided to drop Benghazi and focus on the decision to invade.
You can usually tell when the bubble sets the narrative when several people here start giving the same talking points at the same time for events well in the past. If you check right wing media outlets around the end of summer you will probably find a unified effort to push the talking point to the bubble dwellers. Their job is then to hit message boards and drop the point into conversations.
Alphaape
No he doesn't. People fail to understand that ISIS is fighting based on a belief that is over 2,000 years old founded on the Sunni/Shia rift in Islam. Long before there was a Europe as we know or an America, these divisions have been fighting amongst themselves in Islam.
Dictators like Saddam, though reviled as he was, kept this and other groups like them in check. They don't need to have a bad guy like Trump making any noise to still have hatred for the USA and non-believers. Just look at the Paris attacks. France has a far more liberal immigration policy for Muslims to enter and look what they did. Those attacks had nothing to do with Trump or his proposed plans to ban Muslims who are not US citizens from entering into the USA.
They (ISIS) see it as a religious war. Look at how they are treating the non-Muslims in the areas that they capture, as well as look at how they treat the other Muslims who don't hold their interpretations of Islam. To say that they are not about religion is to show that you have no understanding of what they are about, and you (along with the US government and media) are keeping their heads in the sand on what their true intentions are.
kcjapan
ISIS is fighting based on a belief that is over 2,000 years old - comments
Ignorance is bliss. Fact: Muhammad (also spelled Mohammed) born 570 AD in Mecca (current day Saudi Arabia), and passed away June 8, 632 in Medina
These are the wise sophisticates of the GOP Shia-Tea. Dunce ignorance calling everyone else a liar. Trump has good company here.
PTownsend
Perhaps, but more importantly they're fighting based on a reality that their lands have been invaded. They know the US and its partners are in MENA for greater control of petroleum. The war to protect their resources has turned into an ideological war. Get foreign forces out of MENA. Find alternatives to burning so much petrol.
kcjapan
Well, There you go again, "Find alternatives to burning so much petrol".
Trump's too busy with his "Great Wall" campaign to worry about the world. The comedy of Trump is he really is such an idiot. "I'm going to build a Great Wall" and "Hillary is a Liar".
If it were a 'Saturday Night Live' sketch the next bit would be a giant foot falling on Trump. (oops! Monty Python.)
"Liar, Liar I'm Going to Build a Great Wall and Watch Americans Stave and Die" - VOTE! Trump 2016
cleo
Islam is around 1400 years old. Muhammad died in 632, and it was the dispute over the succession that caused the Sunni-Shia rift.
What 'belief that is over 2,000 years old', older than Europe?
kcjapan
"Liar, Liar I'm Going to Build a Great Wall and Watch Americans Stave and Die" - VOTE! Trump 2016
As usual, the editors rang up, Trump does not intend to "Stave" anyone. Let the "Liar Liar" lawsuit begin.
Alphaape
Ok, I was off around a few hundred years. I accept that. But the bottom line is, this rift in Islam has been going on a lot longer than there has been a USA or a Europe as we know it with expansion into the Middle East.
So tell me kcjapan, how is it that ISIS can throw gays off buildings, force other non-believers into sex slaves and behead other Muslims who don't have any real love for the USA or the west is all the USA's, Trump, and the tea partys fault. Since I am a one of those "dunces" you say, please enlighten me on how ISIS is only fighting for what is theirs.
cleo
Dunno what you understand by 'Europe as we know it', but in the Europe I know, Greece for example was developing democracy some 2500 years ago; Homer was composing some 3,000 years ago; there are extant paintings from over 3,000 years ago and sculptures from over 3500 years ago.
bass4funk
And yet, the racial divide that the progressives impose their radical agendas, more and more of the middle class are disappearing, do they want to take responsibility or accountability for that, not at as long as you live. But I know, it's easier to attack (unsuccessfully) Trump, but as usual, good luck with that.
I did, as for the hospital, sad, but that's war and when you have an enemy that would cowardly hide among women and children tells you how revolting and disgusting the radical jihadists are.
Of Obama not securing Iraq by leaving a sizable military presence in that country, worked out well for Germany and Japan. Obama had the power and the resources to dismantle and destroy ISIS, he chose not to, here we are now.
Hey, Obama had all that so called intellect, look at the country, it's so mucked up. Hope and change gets you screwed. When you get in a fight, you can have all the intelligence in the world, it won't stop another person that wants to pick a fight with you from punching you in the face, but if you are tough, physically and mentally skilled at fighting, you always have the upper hand.
Sorry, Republicans don't have a problem at all to take responsibility for anything if they are shown and proven to have done something wrong. Now as for the Democrats, that is a whole different bag of cat...
Which ironically, was her decision, not Obama's....for once...
What? The idea and plan to invade and oust Mubarek and Ghaddafi was Hillary's and Hillary's alone.
What does that have to do with this admin. Lying to the families about what happened to their loved ones. Amazing, some of you libs love Obama and Hillary sooooo much. It doesn't matter if they have verbal, tangible, email, Video, backed up sources, HD proof, you guys would say, this Kool aid is so tasty, pour me another glass please. Astounding!
But sadly, that's not how the cable news networks operate, hate to break it to you like this, but the progressive websites don't have the slightest idea the operations TV/Film work
Wolfpack
And Obama doesn't appeal to racism and bigotry? Obama attended a black supremacist church for nearly two decades. He fingered his own mother as a racist. He blames white people (especially white policemen) for every bad thing that happens - the evidence be damned. He mocks white Christians for 'clinging to their guns and religion'. He lends his support to racist groups like Black Lives Matter who are constantly spewing hatred towards white people. It is no coincidence that America is more racially polarized now than before he was elected. The man cannot help but show his disdain for those that disagree with him so he (and Hillary) call Republicans and conservatives the enemy all the while making excuses for Islamists.
I am no Trump fan but there is plenty of hate and intolerance coming from the other side these days. Trump is simply a reaction to Obama and the Left's "racism and bigotry." I do not support Trump and do not like the way he talks about people. However, when Obama demeans others not like himself can anyone be surprised that he receives the same harsh treatment in return?
PTownsend
Please provide some evidence of this. Maybe from impeachobama.com or The New American? It's unfortunate if to make an argument people need to resort to the Goebbels school of thought.
kcjapan
"Hillary Clinton’s remark was based on evidence that supporters of the extremist group frequently cite Trump’s comments to make the case that Americans hate Muslims." - article
Trump's ploy is easy enough to read. His racist prejudice guides his hot dog vendor lunatics and Trump is King of the Hot Dog Vendors.
Sixty-Nine years old, billionaire racist makes the most ignorant his fans. WOW! Politics at their best.
Madame Clinton better apologize. America will ground to a stand still if Trump commands his Hot Dog Vendor Army to "serve no dog till its' time"!, or the World bows before the Trump Hot Dog Machine of Truth.
Best part?
This total idiot is the definition of eunuch politic.
It's all about one racist screed followed by beating one protester for their 1st Amendment Rights, to claiming his poor, tender pathological freaks are supporting him in his rise to power to build a wall across America, banning everyone of a religious faith and telling the pig women how disgusting he finds them.
The Republicans have found their President! The world laughs at his idiot pretense. Congratulations Mr. Trump, you're the wipe cloth of the world. It only took six monthes!
Walk On, Walk ON!
Alphaape
@ cleo: Ok I see that you can't argue with my points I presented, so now you are trying to switch tactics by bringing up stuff not germane to the issue. Yes Greece was developed and civilized long ago. No argument there. But the Europe that I am talking about is the more "modern Europe" you know the one where countries like Great Britain, France, Belgium and to a lesser extent Germany had colonies all in the Middle East and after WWI really began to delve deeper into the areas politics because of the oil that was discovered.
By your logic, ISIS should not really be mad at the USA, but Europe and Turkey, since it was the Ottomans who ruled the Middle East up until the end of WWI who held sway over places like Mesopotamia (now Iraq, Syria and other nations that were carved out after WWI). No where during all of the Ottoman rule, or immediately after WWI was there major US involvement in the Middle East. Since you are so well versed on European history, it was BP (British Petroleum) and Royal Dutch Shell who were the real big oil companies in the area. America had it's own oil supply, and really didn't get dependent on Middle East oil until much later.
With that, you still haven't shown me where if Trump says anything that will be a recruiting tool for ISIS. Look at Libya now. ISIS has taken over the eastern part of the country. Remember, Libya was ruled by Khadafy, who was not a friend of the USA by any means, and they have taken over and looted and beheaded left and right. I will say this, yes in Libya the US did interfere, but that was Hillary and Obama, who tried to do their "nation building" and it failed. Funny how at the last Dem debate, when asked the question does she (Hillary) and the US have to accept any blame for the failed state that is Libya now, she dodged the question and tried her best attempt to "smoke and mirror" her way out of it.
Again cleo, if you are happy being told what to wear and what to do as the ISIS want to see things done, then keep on supporting them.
bass4funk
Supporting a racist group like BLM, not speaking out and having his attorney General go after the Black Panthers that intimidated White voters, every time a police officer is shot, especially a White officer, it's sad, but life marches on when a Black civilian is shot, even justifiably, it's a racist act. Kate Steinle gets murdered by an illegal, nothing is mentioned, trying to pass Kate Steinle's law to deport illegals and to make sure they are blocked from entering this country, punishing sanctuary city laws, Obama refuses to act against that as well. If you disagree with Obsma you have to be racist, right? There are one hundred more examples of how racially divisive and bias this president has been.
cleo
Nope, just pointing out that you are mistaken if you think Europe hasn't been around a whole lot longer than Islam.
What logic? I haven't even mentioned ISIS.
What do you mean, 'still'? I've made no attempt to show anyone anything about anything Trump says about anything. The man appears to be a buffoon. Got no time for him.
I know it's the Christmas season, but today's a working day. A bit early to be in your cups, isn't it?
PTownsend
No, but if a person posts message after message berating groups representing people of colour, and if these messages berate individuals of colour whose perspectives differ from theirs while referencing their colour, plus post messages lamenting the plight of white Americans claiming that people of colour are always getting 'free' things at white people's expense, plus make statements like 'the racial divide in the US started when Obama and Holder took office', plus make references to individuals and publications known to espouse bigoted beliefs, then it's easy to assume that poster is a bigot. Out of curiosity, why do you think there are groups like Black Lives Matter? I think many in the US Black communities as well as many other communities think that racial discrimination is still a very serious problem throughout the US, an example as you wrote so many unarmed Black men being murdered by police.
Madverts
"The Goddamn Germans got nothing to do with this" - Sheriff Buford T Justice
Heh, Alpha - you got it badly wrong dude. Be graceful, Cleo's wiped the floor.....
Jimizo
"It's only natural that a lot of people look for someone with strength and as loud and bombastic as Trump is, he projects strength and the people will always go with the stronger horse."
But the people looking to Trump are lunatics according to you. Do lunatics like people who project strength?
bass4funk
In other words, you are going on an assumption, a belief., a suspicion, a guess, a possibility, but not sure? If so, then you can't say anything and you don't have a leg to stand on. I could equally flip your argument and assume when you liberals make references of Whites, you are racists as well and it seems so judging by the constant barrages and attacks directed as Whites or are you now insinuating that whites can't be a victim or targets of racism?
I don't have a problem with BLM if they peacefully protest instead of acting like ignorant, forceful and violent thugs. When the Paris terror attack happened the news coverage was less on them, naturally, but the BLM group started yelling screw what happened in Paris, focus the attention on us, it seems like Black privilege is more important than privilege for EVERYONE. That's not racist, that's a fact. Denying that fact is selectively racist
There are police that cross the line and should never and have no business being a police officer, but at the same time, being so PC when it comes to the treatment of Blacks in this society makes many of them think they can do what they want, they can rob, steal, commit any crimes with impunity and don't have to worry about the repercussions, because now the good police which are about 99% can't do their jobs properly and efficiently because they will be scrutinized and Blacks will be given a pas because they will be seen as victims, but assaulted police just have to grin and bear it, more so, if the officer happens to be White and that's fair??
That's your personal opinion. People are so fed up with Obama, Hillary and the entire progressive agenda, a hedgehog would be a better choice. The list is growing, his numbers are as he would say "yuge" the growing masses lunatics,Chen so be it, I felt the same way back in 2008 when a big mouth progressive shouted "yes, we can" a lot of looms supported that radical, so there's really no difference except, Trump loves his country and his people. If he will shut down the border and deport any illegals, protect the country and would do everything in his power to stop radical Islam, and can put an end to the The PC out of control nonesense, he most definitely has my vote.
Jimizo
"But the people looking to Trump are lunatics according to you. Do lunatics like people who project strength?"
"That's your personal opinion"
No, it isn't. It's your personal opinion. That's why I wrote "according to you".
You called Trump supporters part of a lunatic fringe of the GOP. Are you sticking by that?
Black Sabbath
Fallacy.
Trump is polling 40% with Republicans. There is no equivalent a figure on the Left.
Show me where Obama, or Clinton, or even Sanders, has called for a ban on Christians, or claimed that all Canadians are rapists, or that Evangalists from Colorodo Springs danced with joy when a Planned Parenthood was attacked and you may have a point.
But you can't.
So you don't.
There is no equivalency.
Alphaape
Trump has not claimed that all Mexicans are rapists. But what he did say that some who come into the country illegally commit crimes. If you don't believe him or me, just look up the US prison statistics and see how many prisoners in the US system are from foreign countries, many of them in the US illegally committing crimes.
As far as comparing Evangelicals dancing in the streets in the wake of the CO springs shooting, I don't know of any that did, but I do recall a few nationwide broadcasters (MSNBC, CNN) who kept pointing out the fact that in the first early moments of the breaking news of the San Bernardino attacks, they kept emphasizing that the locale was not far from a Planned Parenthood location and with the mass shooting were trying to get the "jump" on what they thought would be one of those types of events, only to be sadly mistaken.
@ cleo: again, I never said that Europe hasn't been around long. But the Europe that ISIS is so incensed about (outside the fact that they are non-believers) in regards to others saying they are too much into the business of ME politics, outside of the crusades, is a modern phenomenon. As I pointed out, they had colonies and territories as all parts of their so called "empires" more so than the US ever did. As I also pointed out, if ISIS is going to be frustrated with any European country in regards to their beliefs that they "held them back" again I say that they should hold that grudge against Turkey, since those lands that they are trying to reclaim were part of the Ottoman Empire, and their fellow Turkish Muslims held the Arabs back for a lot longer than America or France.
cleo
You said (and I quote) ISIS is fighting based on a belief that is over 2,000 years old founded on the Sunni/Shia rift in Islam. Long before there was a Europe as we know. You said that Islam was over 2,000 years old, and that Europe wasn't. Wrong on both counts.
European empires have included colonies and territories way back before the Roman Empire, which was going strong 2,000 years ago. Some 2,500 years ago, long before Islam was even a gleam in Muhammad's eye, the Greeks and the Persians were fighting a series of wars that eventually led to the creation of the Athenian Empire.
There's nothing 'new' about people fighting each other over alleged wrongs. Just the details of the 'reasons' vary.
bass4funk
Apparently, the masses disagree with you, that's not an opinion, that's a sheer fact.
Should be according to "you."
Now, I'm not so sure, like with Obama's history....
No.
That's great news.
How many radical Christians are there killing people worldwide compared to the radical jihadists?
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But you can't.
So you don't.
There is no equivalency.
The numbers don't support your argument. Radical Jihadism is the problem, front and center.
Pukey2
I can't wait for the primaries and the presidential election. FGS, please fast forward. Everyone's aged a lot since this circus freak show started.