Trump jovially rejoins campaign trail, tosses hat to a fan

Before Trump’s dark blue private jet touched down in Louisiana,

How much is he charging the US government, i.e. the US tax payers, for using his jet? Who'll audit Trump?

asked the crowd if the magazine should go back to its former “Man of the Year.”

Back to the 1950's. He's appointing his fellow establishment nabobs from big military, big medicine, big pharma, lowest common denominator entertainment (McMahon from the WWE who showed her entrepreneurship by contributing $6 million to Trump's campaign), big law, big government, the alt right and fake media, among others. Is big tobacco next?

He's building a bigger and murkier swamp.

There are the moments Trump lives for. He wants to be standing in front of people who are praising him. It's also why he uses Twitter to go after ordinary Americans who criticize him. It's important to him.

My guess is Trump will mostly be a spokesperson who does big media events and Pence will take over running the country along with the other establishment Republicans..

Even though Trump called Sturgeon:

Trump’s transition team described the conversation (with the Scottish First Minister) as a “short congratulatory call.”

Looks like Trump also lied about the number of jobs Carrier was keeping. The real number is 800. He probably bumped it up to 1,100 so he could say he saved half of them. More jobs saved = more love for Trump.

The union leader called Trump out on the lie so Trump attacked him on Twitter. Now he's getting the standard death threats from Trump supporters. Which, I'm sure, Trump knows will happen. If enough people see this happening then they will be less likely to criticize him in public for fear of their safety.

He didn't lie. It is a team game. The other 300 jobs had already been saved by Pence.

He didn't lie. It is a team game. The other 300 jobs had already been saved by Pence.

Truthful hyperbole. How we lap it up!

I'll need to see your sources, Lizz. Too often you have made statements off of inaccurate predictions to be trusted.

It isn't a prediction. I live in Indiana and this was reported back when the plant first announced it was closing. The jobs are R&D and may not have been going to Mexico but were scheduled to leave the city.

statements off of inaccurate predictions to be trusted.

Welcome to Post-truthia, a place where I-wanna-believe-so-I'm-right trumps (so to speak) facts and reality, where any data - real or contrived - can be distorted to fit the narrative. Or any lie for that matter.

Bannon, the WWE magnate, a pyramids-were-used-to-store-grain espouser, and to top it all off the huckster who sold people on Trump U are ushering us all into a scary new world ala Huxley financially backed by big banking and supported by big military.

The jobs are R&D and may not have been going to Mexico

Ah, OK. I figured it was something like that.

More pro-Trump guff from Japan Today.

Why doesn't this site rename itself Trump Today? It would be more accurate. There seem to be nearly as many stories about the Orange Fraudster as there do about the country it's supposed to cover.

@SuperLib and Lizz - Cool to see you guys can maybe at least see "eye to eye" on something...although you may not agree 100 percent.

Regardless, the outcome of the Carrier thing is good - far too many manufacturing jobs have left the U.S. The fact that these jobs will stay also means portions of the supply chain and support infrastructure will stay too.

There are plenty of other things to disagree with Trump on. I find his Tweets to be irresponsible and not becoming of a President elect. I also do not see why he needs to make this trip. Better to stay in NY/ DC to prepare for the Presidency. Finally he does not appear to be the "outsider" he portrayed himself as. Appointing members of Goldman Sachs to his White House team. This is more what I would have expected from Ms. Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc.

It will be interesting to see how this presidency plays out.

Trump got where he is by being the consummate bully. He literally bullied his way into the presidency, haranguing and harassing anybody who dared to complain about him. All my life I've hated bullies and now he's in the ultimate 'bully' pulpit. Heaven help us all. He may have tossed his hat but I tossed my cookies.

"The president-elect’s National Economic Council is to be led by Gary Cohn, president and chief operating officer of the Wall Street bank, which Trump repeatedly complained during the election campaign would control Hillary Clinton if she won."

I love how the same people who lapped up Trump's BS about this are now praising Trump for the very same kind of choice he derided throughout his campaign. Just goes to show you how fickle and hypocritical Trump fans are. The problem with Trump's choices are just too many to go into detail, but I think choosing a climate-change denier for Environment Minister, racists for other positions, one of the key figures in the Real-Estate and economic collapse for Finance Minister, and Ben Carson for a position he has no qualifications or right to be in says it all. And those are just a couple. The US is going to be SO screwed, it's almost funny.

The US is going to be SO screwed, it's almost funny.

What's that old saying - "You get the leaders you deserve"? or something. Well, Americans absolutely deserve Trump - and whatever consequences come their way.

Regardless, the outcome of the Carrier thing is good - far too many manufacturing jobs have left the U.S. The fact that these jobs will stay also means portions of the supply chain and support infrastructure will stay too.

The jobs staying is good. A company showing that they can hold Trump hostage by threatening to leave, and get paid to stay, is not. It sets a particularly bad precedent. Trump may be able to convince more companies to stay in America, but will the net cost be even more than if they left?

smithinjapanDEC. 10, 2016 - 12:58PM JST The US is going to be SO screwed, it's almost funny.

Trump is picking right people. U.S. will be fine. It will be funny to people that don't understand politics and foreign affairs.

Trump is picking right people. U.S. will be fine. It will be funny to people that don't understand politics and foreign affairs.

You might want to rephrase that, "Corporate US will be fine, regular working American's (especially the middle class and below) won't, and business people do not understand politics and foreign affairs"

HonestDictator DEC. 10, 2016 - 02:10PM JST You might want to rephrase that, "Corporate US will be fine, regular working American's (especially the middle class and below) won't, and business people do not understand politics and foreign affairs"

Middle class has spoken that they don't want Hillary. Let Trump work out the problem of the last eight years. For starters, Trump has kept many jobs in Indiana. What can Hillary do?

Middle class has spoken that they don't want Hillary.

Actually, they said they don't want Trump. Unfortunately, it's not the people who decide the president, it's the electoral college, so the will of the people is irrelevant.

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 02:40PM JST Actually, they said they don't want Trump. Unfortunately, it's not the people who decide the president, it's the electoral college, so the will of the people is irrelevant.

If you look at the voters from states that voted for Trump, where did it come from? Not from California or west coast states.

If you look at the voters from states that voted for Trump, where did it come from? Not from California or west coast states.

And?

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 02:49PM JSTAnd?

Where did Clinton win? Tell us. Few major states? Trump won majority of the states. Midwest and East coast.

And?

Are you not going to back up your claim?

I already made it:

they said they don't want Trump.

Watching how jovial Trump middle-class supporters will be as they lose their insurance, Social Security eligibility age skyrockets towards their average mortality, and basic services such as education are slashed to fund tax cuts for the wealthy will be fun. It will be like Kansas, yet on a larger scale. Fortunately, some states such as California will be able to somewhat shelter themselves. The storm is coming, and it will rage fiercely.

LagunaDEC. 10, 2016 - 02:59PM JSTThe storm is coming, and it will rage fiercely.

Trump is picking the right people.

Trump is picking the right people.

Hopefully. We'll know in a few years. I'm skeptical, but hopefully he can prove me wrong.

How exactly is Trump going to keep jobs in the USA? He will just tell them to stay in the USA? He will just insult CEOs of companies who don't listen to him? Any specifics?

How exactly is Trump going to keep jobs in the USA?

He's already shown how - he's going to pay them to not leave.

LagunaDEC. 10, 2016 - 02:59PM JST Watching how jovial Trump middle-class supporters will be as they lose their insurance.

Who said anything about losing insurance? Obama care will eventually be revised under proposed Trump care. This will take few years. Nobody will lose insurance if they keep paying for their premium.

Trump is picking the right people.

Perhaps - but for what? His new labor secretary pick, chairman of a hamburger stand, is vehemently against raising the minimum wage. The closest aid of his national security adviser - Michael Flynn, Jr. - had to be axed as he was flogging to many false stories. HisTtreasury sec pick is from Goldman Sachs, and it seems his State sec pick will be the chairman of Exxon. And let's not get started with Ben Carson.

Obama care will eventually be revised under proposed Trump care.

Do you have insider information that we don't? Because on Trump's own site it says:

But none of these positive reforms can be accomplished without Obamacare repeal. On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare.

Link: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

I don't see anything about revising it there. He wants to fully repeal it.

Laguna DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:33PM JST Perhaps - but for what? His new labor secretary pick, chairman of a hamburger stand, is vehemently against raising the minimum wage.

Sock market is at a highest point. Are you fooling these investors?

Sock market is at a highest point.

Under Obama.

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:36PM JST Under Obama.

After Trump was elected in November.

After Trump was elected in November.

And under Obama.

One pick I forgot - Elain Chao for Transportation. She just happens to be the wife of the Senate Majority Leader. And what did the Senate Majority Leader say when American intelligence services began to express concern at Russian meddling in the election? - according to the WaPo, this:

In September, during a secret briefing for congressional leaders, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) voiced doubts about the veracity of the intelligence...and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.

But I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:42PM JSTAnd under Obama.

Where have you been? Reality is a struggle for middle and poor class. Obama didn't raise a minimum wage. U.S. has been a country traditionally where consumers drive the economy but now become one where the government is more and more involved in driving the economy and taking the power away from consumers.

Obama didn't raise a minimum wage.

Hah! The Republican congress didn't raise the minimum wage. In fact, Republicans vehemently opposed it, and have strongly criticized Seattle for doing it. And now you're blaming Obama.

Seems legit.

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 03:59PM JST Hah! The Republican congress didn't raise the minimum wage. In fact, Republicans vehemently opposed it,

The biggest question mark is President Obama, who did not publicly endorse Harkin’s proposal, despite heavy lobbying from labor groups. Harkin said he is not certain whether all 55 members of the Democratic caucus would back his proposal, which would also raise the minimum rate in jobs that rely on tips to 70 percent of the standard minimum wage.“There are different views on proceeding to it, as an amendment, as a direct bill, how do you do it,” he said. “That’s what we've got to figure out." Harkin said one of the goals of the meeting is to find out how many fellow Democrats will back the bill. “There are some who may want to add something to it, put something else on it, which other people would not want,” he said. “I think people deserve a clean-cut bill. Raise the minimum wage.”

Sorry, what does that have to do with the fact that the Republican congress not raising the minimum wage?

StrangerlandDEC. 10, 2016 - 04:21PM JST Sorry, what does that have to do with the fact that the Republican congress not raising the minimum wage?

Nothing. Your democratic and Obama didn't care.

Nothing. Your democratic and Obama didn't care.

Wrong. Obama:

Of course, nothing helps families make ends meet like higher wages. … And to everyone in this Congress who still refuses to raise the minimum wage, I say this: If you truly believe you could work full-time and support a family on less than $15,000 a year, go try it. If not, vote to give millions of the hardest-working people in America a raise.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/02/02/obamas-claim-that-raising-the-minimum-wage-helps-low-wage-workers-make-ends-meet/

@strangerland

Why didn't Obama support Harkin's proposal?

I don't know.

But either way, I proved your claim that Obama doesn't care about raising the minimum wage wrong.

StrangerlandDEC. 10, 2016 - 04:36PM JST I don't know. But either way, I proved your claim that Obama doesn't care about raising the minimum wage wrong.

Huh? The President acknowledged as much in his speech, indicating that Congress should consider Senator Harkin’s bill. If passed, it is estimated that nearly 7 million low-wage earners would be lifted out of poverty, including more than 4 million seniors.

You're all over the place. First, you claim Obama didn't support Harkin's bill:

Why didn't Obama support Harkin's proposal?

Then you are claiming he did:

The President acknowledged as much in his speech, indicating that Congress should consider Senator Harkin’s bill.

And for that matter, the White House officially did support it:

A White House official confirmed to HuffPost Thursday that the administration backs the legislation introduced earlier this year by Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.). The Hill reported Thursday that Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said the White House was willing to get onboard with the measure.

"The President has long supported raising the minimum wage so hardworking Americans can have a decent wage for a day’s works to support their families and make ends meet, and he supports the Harkin/Miller bill that accomplishes this important goal," the White House official said in an email.

Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/obama-minimum-wage_n_4235965.html

So now it's very clear that Obama supports raising the middle wage, as evidence by his comments in the state of the union address, and his support for a Democratic bill in congress to raise the minimum wage.

Which proves this comment wrong:

President Obama, who did not publicly endorse Harkin’s proposal

As well as this comment:

Your democratic and Obama didn't care

Strangerland DEC. 10, 2016 - 04:46PM JST So now it's very clear that Obama supports raising the middle wage, as evidence by his comments in the state of the union address, and his support for a Democratic bill in congress to raise the minimum wage.

If that were the only problem, the policy might still make sense as part of a larger poverty-reduction package. But evidence suggests that a minimum wage hike can actually move more people into poverty than it moves out of it. Here’s why: An increase in someone’s hourly wage won’t translate to an increase in their annual take-home pay if they lose hours or employment as a result. That’s exactly what’s happening.

First you claim 'Obama didn't raise a [sic] minimum wage'. Which of course he could only do through an executive order, and we all know how Republican's lose their sh*t when he issues those. When pointed out that it was the Republican congress that didn't raise the minimum wage, you shifted tack to 'Obama didn't care'. When pointed out that he did in fact not only care, but explicitly address the issue in his state of the union address, you shifted tack to 'he did not publicly endorse Harkin’s proposal'. When shown that he actually did support Harkin's proposal, you now shift to a debate on whether or not raising the minimum wage makes sense or not.

I'm not going to bother with that discussion for now, I think I'll just be satisfied in repeatedly showing how your claims were wrong all the way through this thread.

Moderator: You continue to get into arguments with readers every day, despite being asked not to do so. You almost never post anything first, but feel you have to comment on other people's opinions. This indicates an unhealthy obsession with our discussion board. I'm afraid your time with us is coming to an end, unless you completely rethink the way you post.

Sock market is at a highest point.

That's actually an interesting point, sfjp. No one has any idea what Trump will do - he's the loosest of cannons ever to ascend to the presidency - but he has indicated that he's a Keynesian, so investors are likely looking forward to government spending to expand over the next few years. This would be ironic if it were not so predictable; Republicans are always deficit hawks while in opposition but open the sluices when in power. This time might be different, though. I anticipate internecine warfare amongst the GOP at a level never before seen.

More importantly, would Trump raise his axe over Obama's pardoned Christmas turkey?

The jobs staying is good. A company showing that they can hold Trump hostage by threatening to leave, and get paid to stay, is not. It sets a particularly bad precedent.

Trump isn't paying Carrier to stay. Just like virtually every other company they are feeling an environment of positive optimism and want to be in at the ground level of an administration where forces are converging to provide for a significantly better business outlook.

US Steel wants to accelerate investments, bring back jobs, CEO says

United States Steel would like to accelerate its investments and hire back laid-off employees now that Donald Trump will be occupying the Oval Office, CEO Mario Longhi told CNBC on Wednesday. "We already structured to do some things, but when you see in the near future improvement to the tax laws, improvements to regulation, those two things by themselves may be a significant driver to what we're going to do," he said in an interview with CNBC's "Power Lunch."

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/us-steel-wants-to-accelerate-investments-bring-back-jobs-ceo-says.html

Strangerland and sfpj330, please do not address each other any further on this thread, since you just going around in circles and bickering.

Trump isn't paying Carrier to stay.

Well, not out of his own pocket. But they are being paid that to stay:

The Indiana governor was offering $7 million over 10 years to encourage the company to keep in the state roughly one-third of the 2,100 jobs

Link: http://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461

Oh, man, this incoming government is going to be soooo much better than the current mess we have.

The First 100 Days: Draining the swamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb-p8_UklE&t=57s

Hopefully. We'll know in a few years. I'm skeptical, but hopefully he can prove me wrong.

He has proven all the nay-sayers wrong already.

He has proven all the nay-sayers wrong already.

Hopefully he'll do it again. If he ends up being a good president, I'll be happy to eat my words. I'm more vested in a better planet than I am in partisan politics.

But, all he's done so far is run a successful campaign. He hasn't actually started the job yet.

Link: http://www.wsj.com/articles/indiana-gives-7-million-in-tax-breaks-to-keep-carrier-jobs-1480608461

Pence was offering that before the election....so obviously something changed between then and now.

so obviously something changed between then and now.

Yeah - what changed is that Trumpence won, so now they can actually come through with their payoff. Until they won, Carrier had no reason to agree to stay until they knew they would definitely receive the payoff.

The Indiana Economic Development Corp. offered Carrier up to $5 million in conditional tax credits over the next 10 years, $1 million in training grants to support workforce development, and up to $1 million in tax credits subject to the company's future investment in its Indianapolis facility....nothing to do with the federal government or Trump.

Ok, so it turns out Trump isn't responsible for Carrier staying at all then, it's the Indiana Economic Development Corp.

Trump is a self serving con man, PERIOD!

Hopefully he'll do it again. If he ends up being a good president, I'll be happy to eat my words. I'm more vested in a better planet than I am in partisan politics.

You and me both. What I am finding increasingly frustrating is the rhetoric coming from the anti-Trump camp, of which you probably know I have been a part. Since being elected, Trump has been accused by many of the anti-Trump camp of 'backpeddling' on campaign promises that the very anti-Trump camp have been against and go further by complaining to Trump supporters that they should be disappointed in their candidate. I have to ask such people if they are thinking clearly. They potentially get what they wanted all along and Trump even gets the supporters of the opposing side to go along with it and the anti-Trump camp only seems to want to complain about it even more. I don't get it. Even the shock of Trump winning should not be causing this kind of hyposcrisy.

What I am finding increasingly frustrating is the rhetoric coming from the anti-Trump camp

Back, I'm with you - but seriously, two aspects indicate where this is going: those Trump has nominated for his cabinet positions (most none good) and the policies coming out of the GOP congress (all bad). I would love to see a pragmatic New Yorker Trump as president; problem is, signs are pointing very much against this.

Serrano: "The First 100 Days: Draining the swamp"

HAHAHAHA!!! He's chosen numerous career politicians, my friend -- something you decried Hilary would do, and now don't even choose to see that's what your hero's doing. He isn't going to drain the swamp -- he took a few dumps in it and enclosed it in a plastic bubble.

And are you still posting YouTube videos of yourself?

Laguna, I share the concerns you have raised.

I would love to see a pragmatic New Yorker Trump as president;

Me, too.

problem is, signs are pointing very much against this.

Perhaps. The concerns you raise cannot be ignored. I do see other signs that point to possible hope. Things like Trump meeting people like Gore and getting their input.

The problem, Back, is congress and the demands of the minority who voted them in. I am afraid that Trump really doesn't give a damn about governing - aside from the accolades - and as such, his agenda will be Paul Ryan's agenda. And that is a very, very ugly agenda. On the other hand, Trump is now down by some 3 million votes - and that doesn't count those liberals who were insufficiently enthused to vote. When America sees what the GOP plans for them, a world of pain will descend in 2018.

Seems the Democrat party is in disarray not even supporting their Senate candidate in Louisiana while The Donald gives 100% energy and effort as a pay-back. Do people even need to wonder which party will win this Senate seat in Louisiana?

I am afraid that Trump really doesn't give a damn about governing

As Arianna Huffington said in an interview recently, we have to stop judging Trump on what he did in the campaign and wait to judge him once he is president. All that matters is what he does once he is president.

and as such, his agenda will be Paul Ryan's agenda.

I don't know if that is necessarily true. It certainly wasn't true during the campaign. Whatever Trump is, he certainly has not been the GOP.

I hope things work out for the best for the US because we are all somehow tied into their fate.

Laguna: "If he ends up being a good president, I'll be happy to eat my words."

Laguna, I wouldn't have said this a year ago, but Donald Trump is going to be the best Prez ever! Believe me, believe me!

smith: "And are you still posting YouTube videos of yourself?"

smith, I know you're still butthurt over Hillary's loss but really you should at least check out the link before saying something like that. Here's another good one you might learn something from:

Will Huckabee join Trump's cabinet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlu-g9fkvF4

Tokyo-Engr: Regardless, the outcome of the Carrier thing is good - far too many manufacturing jobs have left the U.S. The fact that these jobs will stay also means portions of the supply chain and support infrastructure will stay too.

Imagine a dam. And the dam has cracks everywhere with water spraying out. Trump comes along and puts his finger into one of the cracks. He doesn't stop the water in that one crack, he just reduces the water flow.

Is Trump's action bad? Nope. Are you missing the point of a crumbling dam that need attention? Yep. Do situations like these amount to anything more than a photo op for Donald "love me" Trump? I'll let you decide.

Lizz: United States Steel would like to accelerate its investments and hire back laid-off employees now that Donald Trump will be occupying the Oval Office, CEO Mario Longhi told CNBC on Wednesday. "We already structured to do some things, but when you see in the near future improvement to the tax laws, improvements to regulation, those two things by themselves may be a significant driver to what we're going to do," he said in an interview with CNBC's "Power Lunch."

Blah, blah, blah. Go and read about the tax haven in 2005. Business leaders said that if you reduced their taxes they would be able to hire more workers and invest in R&D. So Congress gave it to them. What did they really do? Well, whatever the hell they wanted. The top 3 beneficiaries of the tax break ended up firing 30,000 workers and reducing their spending in research. Why? Because they could. There was no requirement to save jobs or invest with their free money. So they did want was best for themselves, their stock prices, and their investors. They just repeated GOP talking points back to the politicians, got their money, then put it in their pockets.

Now read the statement above from United States Steel or any other similar company with that in mind. They "would like to accelerate their investments and hire back employees." Maybe they will. Or maybe they will do stock buybacks or buy another company overseas and ship American jobs there. I suppose we can always hope.

You should also read about Elizabeth Warren and her fight to change the financial services industry. Lots of statements from businesses leaders saying new rules would put them out of business. What's odd, though, is that in statements to their investors the same business owners clearly state that any new regulations could be easily absorbed and wouldn't hurt their overall effectivenes. So when they go up in front of Congress they give one answer, when they talk to investors they give the exact opposite answer. Why? It's business.

I had a small business in Japan. Just me, one employee, and my shop. Put me in front of government officials and I'll say all day that reducing my taxes would help me hire more people. It's true. Now if you gave me that tax break would I use it to actually hire more people? Maybe. There are actually lots of things I could do with more money. But there would be absolutely no requirement for me to actually do any of the things I said I would do. I could make all kinds of false promises to the government to get that free money, then just do whatever I wanted, even moving my shop to China.

Trump supporters, you were taken in by a CONMAN. He promised you the sun and moon, and you actually FELL FOR IT. He, of course, will deliver you NOTHING. Sat goodbye to everything you hold dear.

The real con here is the picture used for this article. Unless someone has an incredibly fast shutter and focus that picture is next to impossible especially with the hat like that.

-sadly no-one even looked at the picture or even read the whole article.

badsey3: The real con here is the picture used for this article. Unless someone has an incredibly fast shutter and focus that picture is next to impossible especially with the hat like that.

The photo on JT, and the same photo on the Houston Chronicle, has the metadata stripped, but it wasn't stripped on the Concord Monitor's copy. Is 1/1250 is a fast shutter speed?

Isn't there a sport mode, where you press the shutter button once and several shots are taken? Or maybe he just got lucky.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/Trump-jovially-rejoins-campaign-trail-tosses-hat-to-a-fan-6804176

(photo metadata, some of it):

Shutter Speed Value : 1/1250, Camera Model Name : Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, Metering Mode : Multi-segment, ISO : 2500, Focal Length : 420.0 mm (35 mm equivalent: 3067.2 mm), Hyperfocal Distance : 10718.50 m, Software : Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 Macintosh

41 more days until the guy takes office, and then an estimated 100 days to see some of the actual methods Trump will try to put into effect. If he does nothing but pose as POTUS by dangling some shiny stuff for his supporters to look at, or actually does something positive.

@sfjp330, seems you're incapable of comprehending the fact that asking for a bunch of greedy, money-grubbing, to hell with anyone who isn't wealthy or well connected CEOs with ideas for special interests (to line their pockets more) to fill up an administration is like asking Al Capone to head the FBI during the prohibition era.

Running a country is NOT the same as running a business. Keeping jobs means nothing if the workers can't even afford to keep up with inflation or cots of living.

What I'm predicting if Trump and his cronies and/or the GOP have their way, Americans will become nothing but wage slaves to a system that only makes more money for those that already have enough money. Where there used to be a choice of "Working to live, or living to work" will just become, "living to work" in the US.

HonestDictator DEC. 11, 2016 - 08:10AM JST What I'm predicting if Trump and his cronies and/or the GOP have their way, Americans will become nothing but wage slaves to a system that only makes more money for those that already have enough money. Where there used to be a choice of "Working to live, or living to work" will just become, "living to work" in the US.

Most believe that wages are set by fundamental laws of supply and demand, that people earn basically what a fair, free market determines they should make. If you look at employment, Republicans do not see three decades of wage decline or stagnation for the vast majority as anything but an unavoidable result of globalization. They do not see the impact of neoliberalism and supply-side economics gorging a few and squeezing the many. Again, they do not see the possibilities and justice of trade policies broadly established and enforced by the world's lone superpower, where U.S. can police the world, but can't regulate its economy. What they do see is things the way they are and the way they basically must and should be.

UPDATE: John Kennedy, who PE Trump campaigned for, won the Senate runoff. Unlike Obama, President (elect) Trump has long coat tails. Another fake news story by the radical atl media is debunked.

Heh, this year has turned into the liberals' nightmare. . . .

@sfjp330 and that's what they want to keep believing... until it finally hits them where it hurts.

I'm just going to have to wait and see if our country will survive the next 4 years (or impeachment) and come out no worse for wear... or wounded but able to recover. Or just set on the utter path to destruction... The Russian, Chinese, and other unfriendly countries governments are cheering this on. The US has the best opportunity to destroy itself from the inside, and they're ecstatic.

@TexasMaggie, I'm not a liberal... everyone who is against Trump isn't a liberal. Get that through your head. When the reality you want to champion hits you, I hope you'll have enough smarts and common sense to realize just how stupid it is to have this man as POTUS. And should the worst comes to pass, I hope you'll burn in your own foolishness as much as those you''ll be dragging down with you for such an idiotic decision. The president we deserve... I know our country is going to choke on this one.