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If Trump thinks Sanders sold his soul to the devil, the he'd better make space down in hell next to him.

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I wouldn't leave this unhinged narcissist in charge of a goldfish, let alone national security.

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the Republican presidential campaign might lift its ban of certain media outlets from campaign events.

PutinTrump's Ministry of Truth in the making.

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The Democratic convention, however, had more overall viewers during the four nights.

Each and every night. For some strange reason Team Dem's patriotic and positive message of hope in the future through shared prosperity and unity appeals to Americans much more than the dark, paranoid ramblings of the lunatics on the right.

Go figure.

And that is why Clinton is gonna stomp all over Trump this fall. I bet anyone here that's gonna happen. I bet Clinton gets 322 or more electoral votes.

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Did Donald broker the deal?

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RNC his daughter did excellent speech telling how her father treated minority and female employees. Then Trump's nomination acceptance speech. He brew away his daughter's evfoort in less than 1 min. Clinton came toospeakk under boos. However as she spoke,boos stopped. Just large Hillary sounds.and excellent DNC continued.

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The media controls what you think of them, not your brains sadly. Simple people need simple tricks to get them to believe anything. The media is smashing trump and making him out to be an insane person, when deep down he will do a hell of a lot more than Hilary.

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The DNC always gets better ratings, mostly because they have tons more celebrities and lavish parties that attract sports and Hollywood A-listers more like an mid size award show than a political convention.

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Lizz - Republican backers offered $5 million to Justin Bieber to play 45 min. (w/o requiring any endorsement by him) - and he turned them down.

Republicans can't even BUY a good time.

Your comment is typically dishonest and uninformed, the way your type of carefully ignorant American requires.

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Did Donald broker the deal?

No.Crooked politicians like Debbie W. Shultz, elite Democrats and HRC brokered the deal. Cannot believe they stooped so low just too make 100% sure that HRC would ultimately becom the (D) nominee.

This will go down in US History comparable to the assassination of JFK. An embarrassing tradgedy to the American people.

He then noted that Sanders’ “people are angry” and praised their efforts to disrupt the Democratic National Convention.

"Angry" is not the appropiate word. Those people were weeping, screaming, scaling fences and barriers, obstructing police, pulling out their hair and gnashing their teeth. Philly -the city of "brotherly love." Driven to hatred & chaos by the Democratic Party. Way to go Democrats. Way to go-

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Bloomberg, also a billionaire, as “Little Michael Bloomberg,” who “never had the guts to run for president” and whose final term as mayor was “a disaster.”

That’s a reversal from 2012, when Trump praised Bloomberg for reducing crime in New York City, declaring, “That’s leadership.”

D.T. in a nutshell. When people are fooled by him, he is all mr nice guy. Soon as you say the truth about him, he turns into a 5 year old version of himself and blindly attacks with childish one-liners....

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It's truly unbelievable that people support a rigged primary election. Humanity is not on course for fairness and prosperity.

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blindly attacks with childish one-liners....

Which is all most of his followers can understand.

Read this from one of his true believers as a case in point:

This will go down in US History comparable to the assassination of JFK. An embarrassing tradgedy to the American people.

What scares me even more is the PutinTrumpeters are heavily armed.

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It's truly unbelievable that people support a rigged primary election. Humanity is not on course for fairness and prosperity.

Well said MarkG, well said. But guess what . . . voters now know the truth, whole truth & nothing but the truth. So help us god.

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What scares me even more is the PutinTrumpeters are heavily armed.

Is Putin going to be the meme now until the MSM Clinton spin machine needs a different target to deflect from their corruption?

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Well, Bernie IS a major disappointment.

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Trump says Sanders 'sold his soul to the devil'

That's why we don't see Donald's tax returns

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D.T. in a nutshell. When people are fooled by him, he is all mr nice guy. Soon as you say the truth about him, he turns into a 5 year old version of himself and blindly attacks with childish one-liners....

Well, I guess they won't be golf buddies anymore.

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Is Putin going to be the meme now until the MSM Clinton spin machine needs a different target to deflect from their corruption?

Do you mean while Alex Jones and his 'true believing' conspiracy theorists continue to use the meme 'elitist global cabale (sic) and their MSM tools'?

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I actually think Trump has a point, Sanders should have done a ted cruz. Politics have changed, its no longer a reds vs blue contest, there is not much difference, sometimes, between a light red and a light blue or a dark red and a dark blue etc.

There are major differences between sanders and clinton, same with trump, rubio, cruz etc. Imo nothing wrong with NOT fully supporting someone who just happen to believe he/she is 'on the same side'. I don't think Sanders supporters have been fooled though. Still very open imo.

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President Obama referred to Trump in his speech at the DNC conference as a “homegrown demagogue.” To this, Trump's VP pick, Mike Pence, responded (ready? ready?)

I don’t think name-calling has any place in public life, and I thought that was unfortunate that the president of the United States would use a term like that.

Oh! More daylight between Trump and his running-mate! Without crude, callous, entirely juvenile name-calling, Trump's public pronouncements would most entirely shrivel to naught!

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The primary was rigged, and people seem to think that is wonderful. We are done yet with the lies and deceit from hilary, especially if she nabs the election in the same way as bush the brain child did.

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@PT

Just for you, I don't listen to Alex Jones. fail

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The "BURN" is a good guy, and does care mostly "but" Trump in the man to get the job done. Folding on debt is the best thing he can do, if he does the below first.

America needs millions of jobs made, and some how self fund state budgets for life, cutting tax rates why employing more people.

Trump in on the money by defaulting / folding on American debt, but after they do this.

He might as well borrow $15 trillion dollars and hand 15 states $1 trillion dollars in a safe interest fund.

At the end of the day why not? It goes to the states so feds can fold.

Each of the 15 states will make $80 billion dollars interest pa of $1 trillion dollars, to self fund state gov department's pa, and self fund them for life like this.

If a department spends $400 million pa in budget cost, it get's given $10 billion dollars in a safe interest fund, that will make it $650 million pa. You spend the $400 million but save back up the extra $250 million pa. It's that $250 million interest put back in making interest interest, that pays for a 35% budget rise every 10 years, or $15 million dollar rise pa. Self funded for life no more rising cost with pop growth.

Each 1 of the 15 big states get the money for 5 years before handing it onto the next state. Over 5 years each state will have saved $20 billion dollars pa. Now times that by 15 states......$300 billion

$300 billion dollars worth of new jobs every 5 years can be made, why state governments start to self fund all budget's over 15 years sharing it.

That there will see 25 million jobs made alone, not adding the extra money being spend from 20 million new workers, that will see growth and small / big biz get more demand, meaning more jobs on top of the 20 million.

Now the out look before the fold with be huge. Outlook is everything and that along will stop America from sinking after they fold on debt.

So now the states have been self fund state department's and use the savings money to make pure jobs. Now we will see all hospitals schools and state gov department's fully self funded within 15 years.

I would recommend making a 3% GST in 8 years time.

In 8 years time most states budgets will be self funded for life. Taxes will be cut why America booms with all this extra jobs money being spend. Biz will boom and so will America.

In 15 years you are talking about $900 billion dollars worth jobs that pay $600 a week in wages = 50 - 80 million new jobs? Nope, after 5 years 25 million jobs would employ all making America jobless country, and the other money "$600 billion+" will cut taxes for small and big biz.

First you self fund public cost departments like water bills and so on, saving the public money. The public will not save money as if they save $1,000 a year, work pay will drop by $1k pa. The more public departments they self fund with the $600 billion dollars, is the more they can cut biz tax and work pay, as the cost of living has dropped.

In the end you can self fund water bills, power bills, gas bills, putting extra money in it, paying for a 35% rise in cost over 10 years....Big rise in cost.

That will work as hypothetical as it sound's, explain how it wont?

This would work and make America Grate again.

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That's why we don't see Donald's tax returns

Oh pleeze! Not disclosing taxes is nowhere near as bad rigging the primaries. State after state. . . vote after vote, swaying (unfairly) to lean for HRC. No wonder she's got the media in her back pocket and tons of dirty cash. She's as crooked as my Labrador Retriever's leg.

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I saw a whole lot of targeted insulting in the DNC convention this week. Be careful who you call a name caller otherwise your a hypocrite.

Wc.....what I have noticed a great number of voters are sheep. Weather it's dem or rep they have no clue on real issues. I'm an indipendant and believe most indipendants think for themselves. I've been after a political outsider for years. Trump is the closest to that this year.

The DNC convention was littered with hipocracy. Speakers would praise Obama and in the same speach make claim Hillary will improve the US on any number of issues.

Sanders changed his political offiliation the same day Hillary accepted the nomination. Strange timing or a subtle protest...

The Sanders Obama meeting a few weeks ago had changed the Bern in public. He somehow was persuaded into supporting Hillary for the convention. I would not be surprised we will not see Bernie much in the next few months.

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Trump says Sanders 'sold his soul to the devil'

Actually Trump knows this for a fact; it came up the other day while he and Beelzebub were eating lunch together.

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At least Sanders had a soul to sell.

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Trump says Sanders 'sold his soul to the devil'

At least Sanders has a soul to sell. Trump spawned into existence without one. If Trump were to come into possession of a soul, the fabric of reality would tear asunder and all of existence would cease to be. And that's still better than what would happen if Trump became president.

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I did catch some of Hillary Heat Miser Clinton's speech, especially when she was talking about Bernie. He did NOT look happy, never applauded, and even turned a little red in the face it seemed. I feel bad for him and his followers. But this was inevitable. When the Wall Street banksters choose their mark, nothing will stand in their way. Bernie's message was squashed down by the MSM, because they to, are part of the big problem.

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I suspect Bernie was looking to get off the train. He did an amazing job of delivering his message, better than most politicians I've seen, but bringing up issues and being President are two different things. I was a big supporter of his until the interview where he said he didn't really have much in the way of plans for breaking up the big banks. I know breaking up the banks was a big policy issue for him so I expected him to have at least done some research or have some broad strokes for a plan. From then on I mostly thought of him as a voice box for the people, bringing up issues that politicians should focus on.

I follow his Facebook page. He posted a meme today that read: 80% of Republicans and 83% of Democrats want to overturn Citizens United. It's not a conservative issue. Or a liberal issue. Campaign finance reform is an American issue.

He fights for you, even if you're Republican.

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Trump is right. Sanders should have just withhold his support for Clinton, just like Kasich and Cruz did to Trump out of principles. Sanders supporters should sit out this election or just vote anybody else but Trump or Clinton just to show their disgust with both of them.

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"Trump also bragged about TV ratings that indicated that more people watched his acceptance speech that Clinton’s speech."

A** holes are more fun to watch.

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I agree Bernie should indeed have withheld his support from Hillary. It is a matter of principle and he has now compromised his, big time.

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Agreed. He sold out

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”Trump said that he watched Clinton’s speech the night before in Philadelphia. He criticized her speech as being “full of clichés” and full of false claims against him.

The King of clichés dares to criticize another? That's truly rich.

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Trump is right. Although it might not only be a question of "selling", there was probably some intimidation involved too.

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Regarding the possibility of intimidation, it has to be admitted Bernie has looked very harried and stressed throughout the convention.

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I wouldn't say he sold himself to the devil, but he did betray the trust of his supporters.

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I rarely hear anything that shows deep rational thinking out of Trump's mouth. Its either slamming someone or promising things he will never achieve. At least with Hillary there is a rational achievable plan and I don't think she would lead us into WWIII.

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I suspect Bernie was looking to get off the train. He did an amazing job of delivering his message, better than most politicians I've seen, but bringing up issues and being President are two different things. I was a big supporter of his until the interview where he said he didn't really have much in the way of plans for breaking up the big banks.

He plans would have never worked because it wouldn't get passed

I know breaking up the banks was a big policy issue for him so I expected him to have at least done some research or have some broad strokes for a plan. From then on I mostly thought of him as a voice box for the people, bringing up issues that politicians should focus on.

They should, but using the Sanders model would add to the deficit, not lower it.

I follow his Facebook page. He posted a meme today that read: 80% of Republicans and 83% of Democrats want to overturn Citizens United. It's not a conservative issue. Or a liberal issue. Campaign finance reform is an American issue.

He fights for you, even if you're Republican.

For income redistribution? No, he's not fighting for me, that's for sure.

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"Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Friday said that Bernie Sanders “sold his soul to the devil” in deciding to support Hillary Clinton for president."

Sanders repeated many times before he conceded that Trump must never become president. Trump stands for things ( racism, division, misogyny, bigotry etc. ) which Sanders despises.

Most of the Trump supporters here find it difficult to give Trump a ringing endorsement. Most of the Clinton supporters here find it difficult to give Clinton a ringing endorsement. That's understandable. It's very much a lesser of two evils argument.

Sanders is choosing the lesser of two evils. Given the US has a very limited choice in elections, it's the grown-up thing to do. The idea of being grown-up isn't something which registers with a man who throws out childish nicknames, sulks with a face like a smacked arse and gets into silly Twitter fights.

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I have to agree with Trump. If Bernie really stood for something outside party politics, he would have declined to endorse Hillary. But Bernie is not the independent social voice he has claimed to be, as a lifetime politician who has never earned nor paid a dime for a workingman's labor, he is just another voice in Washington which tells the people what they want to hear. Why anyone believes anything Bernir, Hillary, or Trump says amazes me, given centuries of history which prove politicians never tell the truth. But I guess the people like be to be lied to, and would never elect anyone who dared tell them the truth.

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But I guess the people like be to be lied to, and would never elect anyone who dared tell them the truth.

The people don't want to be lied to but they also don't want their country going down the tube. Nonsense like, allowing in islamic refugees, paving the way for more illegal immigration, universal healthcare & EBT for lazy people, ignoring vets etc.

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Bernie supports the aims of the democratic party, in fact due to his great success is taking a strong message of fairness to the voters, many of his goals are now the goals of the democratic party. So he won big. Hillary has moved to join Bernie. These are the facts of the matter and anyone paying attention can see that. Withholding his support for Hillary would show him, like Cruz and the others, to be selfish and basically admitting defeat. Cruz in particular was simply starting his 2020 campaign, he does not care about his party or anything other than himself. In that regard he is a mirror image of Trump-a selfish, soulless, small minded loser. The contrast between the parties is huge. For all of those that say they are the same, you were wrong in 2000 and years going forward, but much more wrong today. There is a choice between sanity and insanity, tolerance and bigotry, hope and fear, peace and war, growth or decline, love or hate and real versus fake. Trump is a conman for sure so many of the weak and feeble minded will vote for him. Otherwise the election should be another landslide for the democrats including taking back the senate from the now completely dead republican party. The republican party stands for nothing now that Trump is their leader. Nothing other than empty words wrapped around cynicism, racism and greed.

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Otherwise the election should be another landslide for the democrats including taking back the senate from the now completely dead republican party. .

Lmfao. A landslide? Did you not see the chaos in Philadelphia? Hillary isn't going to get Sanders' loyalists votes.

The republican party stands for nothing now that Trump is their leader. Nothing other than empty words wrapped around cynicism, racism and greed

Heh. The Republican Party has millions of new voters. They didn't creat a scandal, rigged primaries. Trump won fairly. The Republicans are showing integrity. Racism? Its more about law and order. Turning away Islamic Trojan Horses & illegal immigrants is not racism. America for Americans first. Others coming in must come in "Legally."

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After fighting a bitter campaign of nomination, suddenly changing tack and singing your rival's praises stinks of expediency.

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Poor Trump, even thinks banning some media outlets will help him. Hmm, that really makes him seem honest and open. The GOP supporters should also be screaming for Trump's tax info. Imagine if Hillary hadn't shown hers yet! As it states in the article above, Trump hasn't been able to attract any experienced talent to his campaign. Not one influential person! The guy is as dodgy as they come and he needs to prove otherwise very quickly or it's going to be a landslide win by the Dems.

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The guy is as dodgy as they come and he needs to prove otherwise very quickly or it's going to be a landslide win by the Dems.

Same can said about Hillary. Deleting emails, lying to the FBI, grabbing dirty speech money with her dishonest-impeached hubby. Worse, she accepted the Democratic nomination in the wake of a scandalous rigged campaign.

Why isn't there any accountability? Someone in the government should open up an investigation into the Democrats. Ohh wait . . . they're in on it too.

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For 22 years now the GOP have been after the Clintons and the only thing they ever really found that stuck.... was a cigar.

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Democrats can not be bought, they can only be rented. Staying bought implies some level of integrity.

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A LOT of Bernie supporterrs are seriously pissed off at his capitulation to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, according to the FBI, was unbelievably careless with her illegal private email server which put the nation's secrets at risk, is owned by Wall Street, would no doubt support TPP again as soon if she were elected ( which won't happen ), etc.

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Mr. Trump is correct: Sanders did fold like a cheap suit for Mrs. Clinton. Fortunately, the movement he started is continuing on without him. . . .

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Sanders is choosing the lesser of two evils.

evils, is right. Sorry that excuse doesn't cut it at all. Bernie knows full well what Hillary really stands for and in whose interests she is working. As for getting his concerns on the agenda we know where Hillary will consign them should she be elected,

Interesting that the republican party has prominent members taking a stand in pointedly not endorsing trump. perhaps it says something about the democrats that they can't be principled on the same level.

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"Sanders is choosing the lesser of two evils."

"evils, is right. Sorry that excuse doesn't cut it at all. Bernie knows full well what Hillary really stands for and in whose interests she is working. As for getting his concerns on the agenda we know where Hillary will consign them should she be elected,"

I'd say in most situations you'd have a point but Trump is a real danger to the US. He has to be beaten. His dinner bells for racists and bigots, his childish hair-trigger temper and utter lack of knowledge make him a terrifying prospect. Hillary is dodgy and uninspiring but nothing like this unpredictable man child.

He must lose in November. Sanders no doubt despises Clinton but he's right to do everything he can to stop Trump.

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bernie is endorsing this?? Barak Obama"s own words:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGqD8-a-REQ&sns=em

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As someone who has supported Bernie for about five years, including donating to his re-election campaign, I see things differently than Trump.

Bernie is about policy, not ego. He has been pushing the same common sense socialist policies for as long as I have been following him, and he got the Democratic Party and Sec. Clinton to move towards him, not the other way around. Bernie can be proud of what he has achieved.

If Bernie had given up on his ideals, which he most certainly has not, then it would be fair to say that he sold his soul. I understand how Trump would see things differently; with him, nothing is about policy, and everything is about promoting himself. Trump is a man who actually sits in his very own gold throne, on the top floor of his very own gold Trump tower. I think there are no policy positions that he would not gladly give up in order to promote his grab for even more wealth and power.

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1glenn fulfills the discussion. Thank you for your thoughtful remarks.

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Bernie ran as a Democrat and lost so he is smart enough to rally behind the nominee. What would others expect him to do? Support Trump?! At least Bernie knows that Hillary is miles more suitable as POTUS than Trump is.

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Bernie ran as a Democrat and lost so he is smart enough to rally behind the nominee. What would others expect him to do?

The simple matter, one of a multitude of simple matters that Trump is clueless about, is this: In order to run as a Democrat, Bernie Sanders -- who is not a Democrat -- had to approach the national party and get its OK. (Could Sanders have expected any support otherwise?)

This was actually a great deal for both Sanders and the Democrats. Of course, the people that make up the national democratic party -- with Debbie Wasserman Schultz as party chairwoman -- are going to favor a Democrat over a non-Democrat. The real deal, that Sanders had to agree to -- before he could get approval to run as a Democrat in Democratic primaries -- was whether or not he would agree to support the eventual Democratic winner.

Bernie agreed from the very start, and has kept true to his word. He is an honorable man. The same can't be said of Donald Trump and his satanic followers. Trump spews hatred, lies and discord wherever he goes, just like the white supremacists who are so enthralled and encouraged by him. The GOP has gambled and has come up with an epic fail.

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Uh-oh... bad news for Hillary - even after her post-DNC bump and with the president of the United States cheering her on, a Reuters/Ipsos survey that provided respondents with the option to choose from Clinton, Trump, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson and Green Party candidate Jill Stein, has Clinton and Trump tied at 37 percentage points.

Question: If Trump is so bad, how come Hillary isn't crushing him in the polls?

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danalowton:

" I rarely hear anything that shows deep rational thinking out of Trump's mouth. Its either slamming someone or promising things he will never achieve. At least with Hillary there is a rational achievable plan and I don't think she would lead us into WWIII. "

World upside down? Among Trumps election bombast, some points are very consistent and clear: He is NOT interested in more stupid military interventions like Obama/Hillarys bombing of Libya, and he is NOT interested in more provacations against Russia and more meddling in Russias Near Est.

With Hillary, you can be assured you get more military misadventures, and more aggression against Russia. If you want that, she is your choice.

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Trump is a mere businessman, who has filed for bankruptcy 6 times so far. He has never held public office. If he someday wants to become President he must start out in public office, and create a track record for himself in serving the public.

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Who was McCain's running mate?

If Sarah Palin was a mistake, and caused McCain's defeat, Donald Trump is a blunder of epic proportions. I don't know if the GOP will be able to recover from it. Palin, at least, had experienced elective office. Among recent American presidents, only Dwight Eisenhower did not -- but no one could argue that he didn't have proven leadership skills.

and [Trump] is NOT interested in more provacations against Russia and more meddling in Russias Near East.

First, there is a big difference between "aggression" and "assertiveness." If Trump seems to be overly accommodating to Putin and the Russians, the American people need to know if that's due to the extent of his business dealings with Russian oligarchs. If a Democratic candidate came with that baggage, every conservative talking head would be screaming for those tax returns -- as they did for President Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate.

I find it interesting that Trump chose two of his wives from communist bloc countries.

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BINGO! WiLLiB

What has the community organizer done for our inner cities? Nothing! Friggin hegomonic warmonger. Our country will further go to waste if Hillary is elected. More free shit, more dependency, more control. At least trump is offering the totally opposite. Don't know if he can deliver, but better to roll the dice with Trump than get get caught in Hillary's tornado of slow death.

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After fighting a bitter campaign of nomination, suddenly changing tack and singing your rival's praises stinks of expediency.

After singing your rivals' praises for years, then suddenly in heat of a political campaign reviling them with every damning accusation and insult one can imagine that doesn't involve expletives stinks of a two-faced, opportunistic liar. That's precisely what Trump is: a liar and a fraud.

When Trump spoke highly of Clinton and considered her a friend before this presidential campaign, was he lying then? Or is he lying now? Regardless of which it is, his supporters are being used like cheap suits, ready to be tossed once the deal is sealed. That apochryphal beach-front property that's for sale in Nevada? Trump is its consumate salesman and his supporters are the gullible fools willing to pony up a downpayment.

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What has the community organizer done for our inner cities? Nothing

Not so bad Fizz. . . . at least they kept getting their free money, EBT.

Trump is its consumate salesman and his supporters are the gullible fools willing to pony up a downpayment.

Heh. Some Trump supporters have pretty good careers. Not all trailer-trash. We don't care about "free" stuff and socialism. That's NOT what america is about. Just want some law and order, safety. . . keeping America. America First. And not having hordes of ungrateful, dangerous and poor illegal immigrants or refugees coming in.

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Heh. Some Trump supporters have pretty good careers. Not all trailer-trash. We don't care about "free" stuff and socialism. That's NOT what america is about. Just want some law and order, safety. . . keeping America. America First. And not having hordes of ungrateful, dangerous and poor illegal immigrants or refugees coming in.

None of this is factually true. Crime is down, illegal immigration is down, Obama has deported more people that anyone else, the USA is still first economy, first military by far, first in soft power, first in wealth, first in technology and on and on. Only in delusional thinking is the USA not a great country today. And of course much stronger now than when the republicans ran the show in 2008. Facts, not fiction. Republicans can never tell the difference. If you really want a safer america take guns away, that would save 13,000 lives a year. Japan is the perfect example, no guns, next to no gun deaths per year. There were two gun deaths in 2006. Two versus thousands in the USA.

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Wc626,

We don't care about "free" stuff and socialism. That's NOT what america is about.

The Democratic Party would agree. Unless, of course, you're talking about free education. In which case, yeah, all for it. Education is the great equalizer and would give the middle class those very same "bootstraps" in need of picking up conservatives are so fond of mentioning. Other than that, never heard any mention of "free" stuff in Clinton's speech. This is the 2016 election. You sure you aren't stuck in the '90s?

Just want some law and order,

Hey! Funny thing, the Democratic Party wants that too, especially for minorities.

safety. . .

We've got that. Lowest violent crime stats in 20 years.

keeping America.

America never went anywhere, but I am curious to hear specifically what "America" you're interested in keeping. One that encourages overt and blatant bigotry and intolerance? No, thank you.

America First.

First for whom? For angry white males who see the foundations to the privilege they've taken for granted since the founding of the nation slowly crumbling? Tough patootie. That foundation has been eroding for year. Good riddance to it. America and all the promise it holds belongs to all Americans, not just the ones who are used to being at the top of the heap by virtue of their skin color.

And not having hordes of ungrateful, dangerous and poor illegal immigrants or refugees coming in.

It's interesting some of the language you choose to employ for this last one.

"Hordes" - Your language suggests uncivilized, rampaging armies flowing across the borders to rape, loot, and pillage. I'm certain we can thank Trump in some small part for that. However, the facts simply don't bear this perception out, considering the number of illegal aliens residing in the US since 2010 has stayed stagnant at an average level of 11.2 million per year after dropping from an all-time high of 12.2 million in 2009. This seems to be a pretty mellow "horde," neither ebbing nor flowing.

"Ungrateful" - Where does this silliness come from? You apparently want more from a demographic that picks your fruits and vegetables, cleans your homes, and builds your structures and highways, all for well below the federal minimum wage, without insurance, and under constant fear of being caught and sent back to Mexico? Would you like them to kiss your heinie as well for supporting their families under harsh condition doing jobs no Americans want? I think not.

"Dangerous" - Again, you buying in Trump's assertion that "the Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc." Not surprisingly, there isn't a shred of evidence to support this, something that has been noted by the Wall Street Journal, a respected conservative economic news outlet, and the Center for Immigration Studies, a conservative non-profit focused on reducing immigration to the US. Both of these groups found that there was no evidence to support the narrative the illegal aliens are more violent that Americans. In fact, many data indicators suggest they are even less so.

"poor" - Ever heard or read this anywhere?

"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Ring any bells? Anything? Anything at all?

Just to remind you, this nation was, is, and always will be build on immigration, of both the legal and illegal variety. We're all immigrants in one manner or another, no matter how much that idea may rub you the wrong way.

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zurcronium JUL. 31, 2016 - 04:26PM JST None of this is factually true. Crime is down, illegal immigration is down, Obama has deported more people that anyone else, the USA is still first economy, first military by far, first in soft power, first in wealth, first in technology and on and on. Only in delusional thinking is the USA not a great country today.

I guess it depends on what your criteria for progress are. Right now, unemployment is low compared to eight years ago is terrific. On the other hand, wages have stagnated. That's not a problem unique to the Obama administration's tenure, because wages have been lagging since Reagan was in office. One might argue that the root of the problem isn't that the federal government hasn't been effective, but because employers are simply not paying their workers, despite having the means to do so. The wages should go up as a result of supply and demand, but they are not.

If you're black in America, your likely be better off than you would have been fifty years ago because you're less likely to be murdered or discriminated against because of the color of your skin. However, unemployment has doubled in black neighborhoods, and unemployment does not count the forced-retirements, the forced-to-work-part-timers, and the suicides.

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