Trump takes on House GOP tax, health care plans

The Trumptanic sails again, and this time, the iceberg ain't budging. The Obamacare replacement is going to look like that term paper you left till the night before it was due. The only part that makes sense will be the part they plagiarized, and the rest will be content-free.

It came as news to most congressional Republicans, but turns out President-elect Donald Trump isn’t crazy about their tax plan and has a dramatically different goal for health coverage than they do.

No worries. Both Trump and Congressional Republicans are famous for their ability to compromise. I'm sure they'll have something hammered out in no time.

“Our entire premise has always been we want to give people access to affordable coverage regardless of whether you have a pre-existing condition or not.”

Ryan, however, doesn't know how to pay for this dream. The GOP hates the ACA's individual mandate for basic coverage because they believe healthy people should have the right not to have insurance. So young, healthy individuals will choose not to get covered, driving up premiums for everyone else.

The health savings account plan is not sustainable.

The only solution is a single-payer system. Everybody pays in based on income. Simple. If you want extra treatment, pay extra.

This guy nails it:. http://www.salon.com/2017/01/17/gops-new-obamacare-repeal-debacle-cbo-report-suggests-32-million-americans-will-lose-health-insurance/

The congressional GOP’s messaging on Obamacare repeal does not make sense. It’s completely incoherent, self-defeating and ridiculous. I will allow House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the honor of explaining to everyone just how utterly disjointed and preposterous his party’s position is on health care, since he has been the point person on this issue and is largely responsible for crafting the House GOP’s message on Obamacare repeal.

Pop on over to Ryan’s website and you’ll see that he posted some excerpts from a recent talk-radio interview he gave where the Affordable Care Act came up. There are two quotes highlighted by Ryan’s office that sum up his position on Obamacare. The first is “This [Obamacare] thing is collapsing under its own weight, and we have to step in and save people from this.” The second is “The rug’s not going to be pulled out from under people [post-repeal] . . . There’s going to clearly be a transition period.”

So on the one hand, Obamacare is failing and Republicans must act quickly to save people from it. On the other hand, they’re going to prop it up for a while so nobody is hurt after they repeal it. Ryan and his colleagues say they are going to save America with their Obamacare repeal, while also simultaneously saving America from their Obamacare repeal.

Trump is going in with the absolute worst approval record in history. That, too, will plummet fast. I'm thinking May for impeachment?

It's not that the Republican Congressmen don't have any healthcare plans - it's just that they couldn't coalesce on a single one

If they couldn't even do that for half a decade, how are they gonna suddenly do that in a couple of weeks with the absence of any discussion

Trump is going in with the absolute worst approval record in history. That, too, will plummet fast. I'm thinking May for impeachment?

The polls don't mean anything, the MSM also said during the campaign, Trump was very low, can't win, never will win, Hillary will win, No women or minority would vote for Trump, everything negative, every lie they could muster, he still won, he still dominated in the polls, the GOP still retained the House and the Senate AND gained seats, so if the polls are any indicator of the past, this means absolutely nothing. Trump just needs to focus on the country and not pay attention to any of them.

The polls don't mean anything, the MSM also said during the campaign, Trump was very low, can't win, never will win, Hillary will win, No women or minority would vote for Trump, everything negative, every lie they could muster, he still won, he still dominated in the polls, the GOP still retained the House and the Senate AND gained seats, so if the polls are any indicator of the past, this means absolutely nothing. Trump just needs to focus on the country and not pay attention to any of them.

Not exactly. Using polls to determine who will be president is an inaccurate science, since they are trying to extrapolate demographics from the polling numbers to determine which types of people will vote which way, in which areas. The variables introduced are numerous, making it difficult to accurately predict who will win. Therefore, those polls don't matter in the greater scheme of things, as the only thing that actually matters is the vote. The polls do however give an idea of how things are going, and they were correct insofar as they predicted a Clinton win, and she won the popular vote. They just weren't accurate in predicting who would win the electoral college vote.

Approval polls on the other hand don't need to extrapolate the demographics as much, and there are fewer variables to work with. So the polling is going to be more accurate than a presidential poll. And even while polls are not perfect, they are still a gauge of how things are going.

So you can be assured that if Trump is polling at low favorability ratings, he has low favorability ratings. Maybe not the exact numbers given in the polls, but they aren't going to vary extremely from the numbers given.

Yes, I think we all understand that, but over the years you can take almost every president since modern polling has been around and see how sporadic the polls would fluctuate on a daily basis, if a president worried and focused on the polls too much, it would be more of a hinderndes. After his first year in office, he should to a certain limit heed the polls in the areas and issues that the people are dissatisfied with, other than that, Trump or any other president should put their attention and focus into their job first and foremost.

Trump can't handle someone irrelevant tweeting bad about him. I don't see him ignoring the polls. That kind of thing will drive him crazy - likely leading to him deciding any newspaper that publishes such polls not be allowed in the whitehouse press briefings.

"It came as news to most congressional Republicans, but turns out President-elect Donald Trump isn’t crazy about their tax plan and has a dramatically different goal for health coverage than they do.

On health care, he declared that his approach after repealing the Affordable Care Act is “insurance for everybody,” a tricky pledge that Republicans in Congress pointedly avoid. And, a key plank of the House Republican plan on overhauling the tax code is “too complicated,” according to Trump, who added: “I don’t love it.”

Oh, man, this new president is going to be sooooo much better than what we've had to endure for the past 8 years.

CrazyJoe: "The Trumptanic"

When it doesn't sink after the 2nd year, will you please stop using this dumb word?

smith: "Trump is going in with the absolute worst approval record in history."

Says the people who said he wouldn't win the election. lol.

"That, too, will plummet fast. I'm thinking May for impeachment?"

Dream on, smith.