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UK government has no overall plan for Brexit, leaked memo cited by BBC says

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The memo, titled "Brexit Update", consisted of a few sheets of beautifully hand made BLANK paper.

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Yes, utterly clueless, but at least they're no longer the biggest laughing stock of the planet.

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They do have an "overall plan" To leave the EU. Just the details need to be worked out.

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No kidding. There was me thinking they had everything sorted.

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This is not a leaked memo. The report was published on the 29th of September by the Institute for Government, a leading remain supporter entitled : Planning Brexit: Silence is not a strategy.

It was never prepared for the cabinet office or any Government department. And is a mishmash of speculative conjecture and abstract reasoning from remain civil service castoff, Quango fodder , Hannah White, and Jill Rutter. There is little or no counter argument or balance .This is a extension of Lord Sainsbury of Turville, who donated £7.6 million to Stronger in Europe campaign, to undermined Brexit.

http://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publications/planning-brexit

In Helsinki 6th December there will be a more balanced approach with proposals put forward that provide a more practical if not pragmatic approach to identifying agreed solution to a whole host of issues.

Events have moved on from June the 23rd that could herald reassessment and ultimately compromise.

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Get on with it!

Post brexit Britain is now europe's guinea pigs, Germans and French in particular want to see if 60M plus economies can do better alone. Not too sure they can but would love to be proven wrong.

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A strategy for Brexit is no more a reality for the UK government, as it is for the EU council of ministers, commission or parliament.

Decades of integration, consumer law, etc..the regulatory framework alone behind EU directives will take many years to be unraveled if at all. Plus the fact that a legal procedure is in the process of being presented to the Supreme court that will be decisive in how and when article 50 will be invoked.

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Since I'm not an economist, it's pretty hard for me to predict how this might turn out. But one thing I am an expert on is chocolate bars, which is why I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the new post-Brexit Toblerone for the UK market. Maybe you've seen it as well? I thought it must be one of those photoshoped jokes, but it's real. I hope this isn't a sign of things to come for Brexit Britain.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/11/08/brits-blame-strange-new-toblerone-shape-on-brexit/

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They decided to leave but then they don't, or won't?

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@itsonlyrocknroll

The report was published on the 29th of September by the Institute for Government

Are you sure it is the same document? Most news outlets (including the Daily Mail) are saying it was an unsolicited report from a government consultant (some are saying from Deloitte). The government has declared it "utterly bogus", which for cynics like me suggests there must be something to it.

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Instead of reducing the retail price on the self, Toblerone bars have shrunk. The large 400g wedges to 360g, likewise the smaller 170g wedge to150g. And yes this has been blamed on the after-effects of Brexit. Although that is not the only factor.

The Office Budget Responsibility has published a rather disappointing set of numbers and forecasts that have more to do with the Government not have a clear economic strategy or policy to deal with it's public sector net debt borrowing requirement.

Had both the Remain and Brexit campaigns explained fully in language that spelled out the process of actually severing economic ties, after decades of integration, is easier said than done, maybe the electorate as a whole would have had a clearer picture of the political and economic after effects/ consequences.

No net contributor can just walk away. Even though UK is not directly a member of the Eurozone, it is imperative that the UK continues it contributions and if required increases its obligations at least until the ECB and EU institutions agree on a long term debt consolidation union/plan. I don't think there is a option here.

http://budgetresponsibility.org.uk/

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Feeling a touch of Regrexit, are we?

Had both the Remain and Brexit campaigns explained fully in language that spelled out the process of actually severing economic ties, after decades of integration, is easier said than done, maybe the electorate as a whole would have had a clearer picture of the political and economic after effects/ consequences.

It behoved Brexit campaigners to do this. But Michael Gove washed his hands of any responsibility when he declared that "Britain has had enough of experts."

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Hi albaleo, Frankly not anymore, I went through the Institute for Government report calculating the logic behind the additional staff estimates. It matched the leaked numbers 30,000 ish allowing for the DIT margin for error.

I wish I hadn't bothered, it took me 2 hours. And it certainly does appear that the memo, is allegedly a Deloitte document destined for the Cabinet Office. I am also hearing that it is no more than in note form. I am struggling though, to understand what all the fuss is over a memo.

The Institute for Government Planning Brexit: Silence is not a strategy is a more detailed report, although I question some of the underlining assumptions for the necessity of additional resource and timescales for recruitment.

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leaked or past on, hmm i wonder.

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Hi SenseNotSoCommon, I wasn't eligible to vote, although I was born in Bromley and have well established English family roots. I supported Brexit. However my reasons are not from a narrow inward looking, immigration lead standpoint of dislocation and isolation. But a view that all twenty eight states need to economically restructure and reform. And a wake-up call was needed.

The countries that make up the Euro-zone must be prepared to enter into a comprehensive agreement for consolidated debt mutualisation via the introduction of Euro bonds.

Sadly however with hindsight this was never even a option for Germany. Unemployment is a result of stagnation, hardwired into Southern Europe, unable to devalue as a result of fiscal and monetary constraints that membership of the Euro demands.

I learnt quickly never to make financial investment decisions based on the inflexible emotionally driven world of politics. Always be prepared to except a change of strategy inevitability leads to a change of direction.

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Thanks, rocknroll.

I think everyone agrees that the EU in its current state is far from perfect.

The Brexit vote, however, was just as much a protest against the wave upon wave of austerity ravaging Britain's most depressed communities as it was against the European Union.

Brexiteers singularly failed to present a cogent case for successful withdrawal, instead plastering a half-baked, financially illiterate (giving the benefit of the doubt) beermat idea onto a battle bus, and appealing to the hurt and anger of the UK's own Rust Belt.

Explicit in their body language the day after the vote was their intent to encourage political review in Brussels and Strasbourg; not to effect the seismic geopolitical and economic shock that resulted.

The Brexiteers planned to fail, so failed to plan.

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It's not new news is it? Hardly worth leaking really.

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This is exactly what happens when you put an impossibly complex issue to a simple Yes/No referendum with no thought whatsoever to what Yes or No even means and what shape they should take

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This news needs updating. The 'leaked document' has been found to have nothing to do with government. It was a document created by a company who are trying to get contracts as advisors to the process of Brexit. Who needs facts to get in the way of a good story?

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Well, duh. Of course they haven't got a strategy, no one in power, including the main Brexiteers, really thought the electorate would vote to leave.

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They need to consult with Farage!

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