Vouching for Trump, Obama says U.S. will maintain alliances

I am going to miss President Obama so much. He is a hardworking, steady, intelligent, and moral man. Thank you for all you have done President Obama!

Word has it Trump is planning to nominate John Bolton as secretary of state. John Bolton is a man who very seldom has an idea which is not utterly repulsive, and even then, the way way he proposes it pisses everyone off.

Always enjoyed listening to Obama speak because what he says is always well-spoken, easy to understand and passionate. After Obama, we all get to listen to a raving lunatic but that will be fascinating in its own way.

Word has it Trump is planning to nominate John Bolton as secretary of state

___ I seriously doubt it. I think Trump understands the weight that is on his shoulders and is being purposeful with every step now. He isn't going to start off with a critical nominee that couldn't pass a Senate vote. Hopefully not Palin in any capacity either.

Are we ever going to see Trump make some statements to dispels the fears and anxieties of the American people? And the rest of the world for that matter?

Obama said of the choice of Bannon, a man celebrated by the white nationalist movement.

This is total BS and a great example of how the Dems and Reps keep the people divided.

Heard that Trump will create a department of "Children Affairs" and is nominating Barron kun to head it. All hail King Trump.

"Vouching for Trump,"

Didn't Obama just say days ago that Trump is unfit for the job?

But then it looks like Obama is starting to get with the program:

ELECTION BREAKING NEWS: President Obama Tells Americans To Stop Protesting and Accept Donald Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiTjQC3vy8g

I dunno, Lizz. As John Oliver put it,

Either we just elected a president who didn't mean a single word he said, or we elected one who did.

He's putting climate skeptics in charge of the Interior Department. He's putting investment bankers in charge of the Treasury. His short list for Health and Human Services Secretary are Ben Carson and Rick Scott, two people I would not trust looking after my dog.

Apparently, Bob Corker is on the short list for State - but then, so is Newt Gingrich.

Maybe we could compromise and go with Michael Bolton.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI6CfKcMhjY

Didn't Obama just say days ago that Trump is unfit for the job?

You do realize there was an election in between then and now, right?

But then it looks like Obama is starting to get with the program

So am I. Now is too late to protest the election - if people didn't want him to be president, then they should have made more efforts to get people to vote for Clinton. Too late for that now. Accept that he is the president, and protest his policies, or protest the electoral college that puts people who got less of the vote into the leading position. But accept the fact that he is president - just as Obama is.

Well, Obama will definitely go down as one of America's greatest Presidents, espceially seeing as what comes now

I can't believe a man like Bolton would be Secretary of State.

But then it looks like Obama is starting to get with the program

Starting to get with the program?! Obama has graciously endured more outrageous vitriol than any other American president - much of it from Trump - because he believes in an inclusive and democratic culture. Please compare that to Trump, who had questioned up until the results came in whether he would actually accept them.

Be sure, though, that the going will not be easy for Trump. He'll have his legal problems, of course - he's petitioned to postpone his Trump University trial, but the judge does not seem so keen on that, and he'll have a mountain of conflict-of-interest issues - but the Dems will fight him every step of the way. The GOP also has a smaller majority in both houses of congress, with many watching more closely their chances in 2018 rather than displaying any loyalty to the president.

These will be an interesting two years.

It seems the Trump election wasn't enough for the Dems to reassess their ideology. Nope. Rather than question their elitist connections and globalist/hegemonic goals, the Dem 1%er's are doubling down.

George Soros and other rich liberals who spent tens of millions of dollars trying to elect Hillary Clinton are gathering in Washington for a three-day, closed door meeting to retool the big-money left to fight back against Donald Trump.

The meeting is the first major gathering of the institutional left since Trump’s shocking victory over Hillary Clinton in last week’s presidential election, and, if the agenda is any indication, liberals plan full-on trench warfare against Trump from Day One.

Looks like they didn't learn a thing. Their loss. As long as the leadership ties itself to the rich, instead of going back to its base of the working class, they will further alienate their voting population. The protestors are just too naive or brainwashed to realize who their true opposition is.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democrats-soros-trump-231313

It seems the Trump election wasn't enough for the Dems to reassess their ideology. Nope.

More than half of the voters agree with the democratic ideology, so there isn't really a reason to. The reason the democrats lost wasn't because the voters disagreed with their stance, it was because the electoral college and gerrymandering are stacked against the democrats.

"I can't believe a man like Bolton would be Secretary of State."

I can't believe a corrupt liar like Hillary Clinton would be Secretary of State.

Moderator: The story is about Bolton, not Clinton.

Heh Serrano doesn't know who Bolton is.

Well I do, and this is not a good choice. If he can follow orders from Trump, it should be OK but he is a neocon. Something to pay very close attention to.

The reason the democrats lost wasn't because the voters disagreed with their stance, it was because the electoral college

Speculation at best. If it was the opposite, I'm guessing you'd be defending the electoral college.

and gerrymandering are stacked against the democrats.

gerrymandering? That's rich considering what Hillary did to Sanders. Still, that's politics and our corrupt one party system.

More than half of the voters agree with the democratic ideology

And I would question this as well knowing many voters just wanted the first woman Democrat president regardless of the policy and corruption.

Speculation at best. If it was the opposite, I'm guessing you'd be defending the electoral college.

It's not speculation. More than half the voters voted for Clinton - I didn't just make that up, they are the reported numbers.

And I don't think the electoral college is a good thing. A system in which one candidate can gain more votes, yet the other party gets the power, makes no sense to me. I don't see how that is defensible in either direction.

Now if you want to speculate that I would be happy if it were the other way around, sure I would. I'd prefer to see the democrats in power. But I still wouldn't defend the electoral college system, I'd just be happy that it had worked for me, that time.

gerrymandering? That's rich considering what Hillary did to Sanders.

Why? I disagree with how the democrats dealt with Sanders. The super delegate system is flawed. So is gerrymandering.

And I would question this as well knowing many voters just wanted the first woman Democrat president regardless of the policy and corruption.

Even if that was their motivation, it's just as valid as wanting a president because he is prejudiced against muslims. Everyone gets a vote, and has the right to base their vote on what they think is most relevant. The only thing that is not right is when a vote in one state has 3x the weight of a vote in another state.

The reason the democrats lost wasn't because the voters disagreed with their stance, it was because the electoral college

What I meant was that you're speculating that it was the electoral system alone as to why she lost. No, she lost because she would not come out of her hotel room, wouldn't do press conferences and didn't campaign in the "blue wall" states that she "thought" she had locked up. Arrogance I guess. She dissed a lot of working and middle class voters by ignoring them and pandering to Wall Street and Hollywood. Her untrustworthiness played on their minds as well. Had she done these, she might have won the popular and the electoral votes. Complaining about the electoral system alone and after the fact is kind of a weak argument.

Ironically, you just might get your wish if Trump abolishes the Electoral system as he said he would. No chance of Hillary doing that.

it's just as valid as wanting a president because he is prejudiced against muslims.

Really....I was hoping to avoid the MSM blather.

Obama/Biden memes: http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37972626

What I meant was that you're speculating that it was the electoral system alone as to why she lost.

No I'm not. She won the popular vote. The electoral college was rigged against her. If the president was decided purely upon the will of the voters, she would be president. It's not though, the president is decided based on electoral votes.

No speculation about it, it's all factual information.

it's just as valid as wanting a president because he is prejudiced against muslims.

Really....I was hoping to avoid the MSM blather.

No blather about it. The guy campaigned on closing the border to Muslims. People on this very site who supported him backed up his idea of closing the border to Muslims. If you think that some people didn't choose him because of his stance on Muslims, you're kidding yourself.

The electoral college was rigged against her.

LOL How?

If the president was decided purely upon the will of the voters, she would be president

IF..but it's not, and hasn't been since the founding of our nation.

The guy campaigned on closing the border to Muslims

Temporarily. BTW, many Muslim Americans agree with him.

Blather

The electoral college was rigged against her.

LOL How?

Here, Fizz: look at this:

http://archive.fairvote.org/?page=985

Strangerland: She won the popular vote.

The popular vote isn't in yet. Absentee votes trend 67% Republican and millions are outstanding and contrary to the dogma of 'every vote counts' many states will stop counting votes when the outcome is finalized, leaving lots of votes uncounted.

Also, what we will see in early December is the popular vote count, not the popular vote: In addition to the uncounted votes, there will be votes from millions of non-citizens who registered to vote illegally and still cast votes, also there is some nonzero number of illegal votes as reported by the Manhattan Democratic election commissioner himself, caught on a Project Veritas video.

Temporarily

It's interesting that you think this somehow justifies it.

The popular vote isn't in yet. Absentee votes trend 67% Republican and millions are outstanding and contrary to the dogma of 'every vote counts' many states will stop counting votes when the outcome is finalized, leaving lots of votes uncounted.

And yet, everything we have now shows her with more votes than Trump.

This is just another one of those things where you guys try to twist reality to fit your own narrative.

Trump is not a critical thinker and is uninterested to learn policy. Presidents that are unintellectual (Trump, GW Bush, Reagan) always claim to surround themselves with "good, strong people".

In other words -- Clueless policy and critical thinking presidents are easily manipulated by their handlers when it comes to decisions. It will be interesting to see how Trump will "govern"...with Pence (building a Theocracy), Bannon (shaping his vision for white nationalists), and perhaps John Bolton (a militant neocon with an enthusiasm bombing other countries into 'peace')

Obama's legacy will undoubtedly rise after a Trump presidency.

What we know is that there are still votes to be counted until December results are certified.

Also, beloved-of-the-left Washington Post reported in 2014 on illegal voting. That must be some bubble you live in, if it even filters out WaPo when they don't fit your narrative.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/18/flashback-washpost-illegal-immigrant-voting-gave-us-obamacare/

FLASHBACK– Washington Post in 2014: Non-Citizen Voting Gave Democrats 60th Vote for Obamacare - 18 Oct 2016

... The 2014 Washington Post article titled “Could Non-Citizens Decide The November Election?” was written by Jesse Richman and David Earnest, two associate professors of Political Science and International Studies at Old Dominion University. Their research relied upon data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES). ... The professors found “that some non-citizens participate in U.S. elections, and that this participation has been large enough to change meaningful election outcomes including Electoral College votes, and Congressional elections.” ...

(WaPo, quoting the profs): " How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? […] Our best guess… is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010… Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), "

With 22 million non-citizens in USA at last census, that's around 1.32M non-citizens voting illegally. With non-citizens voting 80% Democrat, that's 1.06M illegal votes for Democrats.

Even the current vote count only has Hillary ahead by 670K, so actually, she's currently 390K behind.

Laguna

There seems to be something missing there, like what is a reasonable amount of area/land for one elected leader to be responsible for? Could one Representative be able to service the whole of Wyoming? I don't know. But I'm guessing this dates back to when the state joined the Union and the elite calling for the shots.

Stranger, under that logic, the system is rigged for all, not just Hillary.

You say "twist", I say "desperation". Hillary lost it. It was hers to lose with all her dollars and friends in high places. She didn't campaign much in Wisconsin or Michigan. Blame her. NOT the system. 3 Wyoming votes would not have made a difference. Stop bellyaching.

“Do I have concerns?” Obama added. “Absolutely.”

Totally unfounded. What possible concerns could Obama have about the problem son of a Klansman?

That Breitbart will morph (even further) into Trump News?

Stranger, under that logic, the system is rigged for all, not just Hillary.

I agree. It's just this time that Hillary got screwed for it.

Blame her. NOT the system.

Considering she won the popular vote, I blame the system.

I can't believe a man like Bolton would be Secretary of State.

I don't know that I buy this completely but Gingrich has made it clear he is only looking for an advisory position, perhaps a kind of "Inspector General" role and is not interested in reentering government at the Cabinet level.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/15/giuliani-favorite-for-trumps-secretary-state-says-wont-be-attorney-general.html

Giuliani favorite for Trump's secretary of state, says 'I won't be attorney general'

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani was the favorite to be secretary of state in President-elect Donald Trump's administration, a senior Trump transition official said Monday.

Burning Bush wrote: "Either way, Obama's scriptwriters went from "unfit for Presidency" to "not so bad after all" real quick." ......................................................................................................... "Politics." The same Obama who endorsed a 2008 campaign ad saying that Hillary Clinton couldn't be trusted said she was well-qualified to be president 8 years later. Make of that what you will. For a fun time I recommend going back to The Guardian's coverage of the 2008 Democratic Party primaries. (The Guardian is not known as a conservative newspaper.) Among my favorite articles is "Clinton accuses Obama of plagiarising speech". Sound familiar? Does the Affordable Care Act cover forked-tongue?

SuperLibNov. 15, 2016 - 11:26AM JST -

"I can't believe a man like Bolton would be Secretary of State."

Heck, if a lying , corrupt woman like Hillary Clinton, who is still under FBI criminal investigaton, can be Secretary of State...

More than half of the voters agree with the democratic ideology, so there isn't really a reason to. The reason the democrats lost wasn't because the voters disagreed with their stance, it was because the electoral college and gerrymandering are stacked against the democrats.

No, it's because the Democrats are bad at governing. Don't even start with gerrymandering and still the Dems are trying to throw the blame and deflect that they underestimated the people and screwed up royally, especially the anointed one, his legacy his pretty much vaporized. They lost the presidency, the House, the Senate,31-18 majority of governors in 33 states legislative and Dems 14. When you look at the total picture conservatives have pretty much for awhile knocked out ONCE AGAIN, the Democrats from further destroying the country, thank God!

No, it's because the Democrats are bad at governing. .. still the Dems are trying to throw the blame and deflect that they underestimated the people and screwed up royally, especially the anointed one, his legacy his pretty much vaporized.

If that were true, Hillary wouldn't have got more vote than Trump did.

Don't even start with gerrymandering

Why not? Because you don't want to admit that the Republicans are doing it?

Reading all the post I think the Romania prophet that left a prophecy might be right that Obama will be the last US president andwe will see the Red states and Blue states going on their separate ways in the near future.

If California, Oregon and Washington were willing to drop the guns, I bet Canada would be happy to take them in.

If that were true, Hillary wouldn't have got more vote than Trump did.

Yes, but we don't elect presidents through a popular vote system and thank god for that. It would leave one party to dominate, it would be good to favor either side. Trump not only was able to tap into the voters pain and suffering, but he managed to actually flip a lot of blue collar Democrats as well. The problem with the Democrats of today, they care too much about Global warming and abortion issues than caring about the middle class that are shrinking at an alarming rate. When Obama idiotically decided to shut down the coal industry, I know that would come back to bite him and the democrats right in the rear.

Why not? Because you don't want to admit that the Republicans are doing it?

No, because the libs are looking for another boogeyman once again. smh.

If California, Oregon and Washington were willing to drop the guns, I bet Canada would be happy to take them in.

I wish they would so they could leave the US. Canada and their quasi-socialist system would be great for those people. I would be happy to see these people leave. By the way, still waiting for Cher and Miley to go, what's going on with that?

I wish they would so they could leave the US.

Well, California should become a republic, and probably could. They generate more revenue per year than a lot of countries. Californians could do well without a U.S. under Trump.

As for Trump's plan for scrapping Medicare and Medicaid, I'm really not for it at all. A lot of people will suffer when he does. Then again, I guess as long as the very rich are taken care of, he's fine with that.

Now that he's going to be the POTUS, how will he deal with all the Federal lawsuits against him? Is he going to petition Congress to give him a free pass?

SuperLibNov. 15, 2016 - 11:26AM JST "I can't believe a man like Bolton would be Secretary of State."

I can't believe a woman like Hillary Clinton would be Secretary of State.

Moderator: This is the third and final time we will tell you to leave your obsession with Hillary Clinton off this thread.

"Well, California should become a republic, and probably could. They generate more revenue per year than a lot of countries. Californians could do well without a U.S. under Trump."

California will become a red state again in 2020 when Trup wins re-election in a landslide.

Yes, Trump Should Pardon Snowden, Manning, and Assange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFI1AO5p5ag

There is new agenda in Senate floor right now purpose is to abolish Electra Collegeve Democratic Party was in confusion with Obamais in Greece. No leader in State. Sol,.. Harry Reid came out from retirement and scolded top of Dem. Party members. Sounded he was yelling at them.