Blacklabel's past comments

  • -4

    Blacklabel

    My guess for the "collusion" is that Roger Stone knew about the Wikileaks dump 2 days prior and he and trump by default did nothing to stop, discourage or condemn it.

    Seeing as Hillary was pretty happy about the leaked tape of the entertainment program and acted the same way I don't see any harm. A leak is a leak.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -5

    Blacklabel

    Actual evidence of collusion yet to be found same was wiretapping. Why does looking for one have to end after only 3 weeks but another must continue after 9 months until something is found? Neither has confirmed evidence yet. My other comments said collusion can continue more but it should end at some point because it's causing delays in other things that need to get done.

    Trump has the right to know about any evidence about him as does Obama. The difference is that Obama era officials have no interest in providing any information to Trump and expect him to get it himself. Obama had all the info provided to him.

    As far as trump policies there have been none I don't support yet. Obamacare replacement looks a little shaky but Obamacare does need to be repealed and replaced. I'm for illegal immigrants being removed, against sanctuary citi es, for the "ban", for border security, for the wall, for decrease in regulations, for programs for women and minorities, for the proposed budget and for job creation. Other things I am neutral.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -2

    Blacklabel

    I guess we are just supposed to not care who actually did this, what their name is or where they are from. I have seen no update to the story since I saw a description of a 40s Asian burly guy with a beard. I wonder when we will hear how police have enough evidence to arrest 6 additional people already and what their personal details are. Guess just doesn't matter.

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  • -6

    Blacklabel

    If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. -George S. Patton

    I stand by my statement that this is going in a direction that few of you will be able to accept or comprehend. Same as the election results. Nice post above mine that adds nothing to the conversation but manages to slip in 2 Russia references and a paid accusation. The reason no Trump supporters come here is because none of you will listen anyway, you will just have to wait and see what happens in the end. Same as the election.

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  • -5

    Blacklabel

    Ok so we are just going to hold to the idea that if he wasnt wiretapped at Trump Tower he lied and that none of this other illegal stuff didnt happen and that there was no attempt by Obama and his buddies to undermine Trump in any way. OK thats fine. Thankfully the law will look at it a little differently and will identify and punish illegal behavior regardless of where it happened or who did it.

    And I say at this moment, because the intelligence committee investigation isnt OVER and the findings of it are still to come. BTW, for your unicorn remark, here are 10 things that now exist that didnt exist before 2016:

    http://earthsky.org/earth/top-10-new-species-of-2016

    Same as evidence, some evidence that doesnt exist now may exist tomorrow or next week prior to the closure of the investigation. So until the investigation is done, no one can say anything is done for certain or that anyone is cleared or not cleared.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -7

    Blacklabel

    zero evidence that Trump Tower was wiretapped.

    Correct as of this moment. So that is all that matters, specific location and the choice of the word wiretapped? If he was not wiretapped but illegally surveilled on his personal cell phone its ok? I dont get why everyone is so hung up on the precise details of what Trump think happened being proven wrong. None of the rest of the leaking, unmasking of names and briefing of Trump transition team communication in the intel briefings to try to encourage more leaks and to hurt the new President seems to concern anyone. Guess dislike/hate just overrides any sense of fairness.

    By the way, I dont even like Trump. I only started supporting him back when I saw how unfairly he was being treated as he went through his campaign. The unfairness has never stopped and its hurting MY country to the point that he cant even make one decision about anything without being attacked or called names. he was even attacked over the electronics ban. I guess non US citizens have a constitutional right to use their Ipad in the main cabin when there was obviously intel that show a threat. Trump hates Muslim laptops too I guess and wants to deny them their human rights.

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  • -7

    Blacklabel

    They stated that on Monday yes. What have they said now? The FBI is still refusing to cooperate with the intelligence committee request for documents from 15 March. So anyone who thinks or hopes this is over is sadly mistaken.

    I dont mind if the end result is that Trump apologizes as long as we get to the bottom of the leaking and illegal handling of the intercepted communications. He could easily just come out and say what was found at the end of all of this.

    For example: I apologize I thought I was wiretapped because all my calls from Trump Tower, people seemed to know about them when they shouldnt. But actually I was legally (or illegally) 'surveilled' by direction of (the NSA, whoever). Even though Obama knew about it, he didnt directly order it (his DOJ head did) and all the paperwork is (legal or not legal) So my apologies for any of what i thought to be correct not being so .

    That way he can get out the facts of what actually happened without people saying none of it happened due to his imprecise tweets. As I said I dont care if Obama did it, or if Loretta Lynch did it, or Hillary Clinton did it. I just case that it happened and it shoudnt have.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -6

    Blacklabel

    Ok, so new evidence came up yesterday but you guys refuse to even consider it and are just basing everything on what was said on Monday. Im glad everyone has already decided with no evidence that any intercepts were legal, there is no way Trump Tower wiretaps were the source of these intercepts, names were not unmasked and Obama has been cleared? Despite what the person who read the documents said. Even people who said the other day that there were no intercepts and no documents because it never happened are now claiming everything was done legally and correctly. Based on what? Thats a really quick pivot but ok sure.

    Still claiming Russia collusion with no evidence while refusing to listen to what the Congressman said he was given and that he found it inappropriate. Fine, the investigation will be expanded out to the Obama administration officials and the CIA, so lets see what comes next.

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  • -4

    Blacklabel

    @zichi Selective reading, i said because TRUMP cant prove it doesnt mean that it didnt happen. If you read my post, I said LAW ENFORCEMENT can and will prove it based on the evidence they have or are given.

    Bottom line is that you guys hate Trump and have no interest in him being treated fairly for anything. He claims he was the victim of a crime. He reported it and took it to law enforcement. Law enforcement (FBI) dismissed his claims and you guys and the FBI now want it to be over so bad. But another group is also looking into it and their leader was given information that the FBI should have had or had but is hiding. So now law enforcement has no choice but to look into this more.

    I think you guys will still try to blame Trump if it is found out that Trump was wiretapped (but not in Trump Tower) and not by Obama (but by one of his senior cabinet members with his knowledge). That is just as bad to me. I dont care if it is confirmed Trump Tower or not and I dont care if they cant directly implicate Obama. Confirmation that it was done and punishment for whoever did it is enough for me.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -6

    Blacklabel

    Trump is not the one to prove that Obama broke the law. The law enforcement agencies are and will be able to do this based on the results of the intelligence committee investigation. The problem is that the FBI appears to have given up by saying there is no evidence. But now that there is evidence again, maybe they will be forced to do their job as far as the Trump claims. They wont even say they are looking into who illegally leaked classified information.

    Thats like saying I personally have to prove that someone broke into my home and stole my TV. Even if I think I know that Suzuki-san did it and say so publicly I dont have to prove it. No, I report that to law enforcement(police), they investigate fully and then arrest the criminal (Suzuki or another) based on the evidence they find.

    So once again just because Trump cant prove it doesnt mean Obama didnt do it. Also because there was no evidence doesnt mean it didnt happen, because new evidence has now come available. I think people are getting too hung up on proving Trump tweet details wrong and not focusing on the illegal way that intercepted communications were handled and used.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -5

    Blacklabel

    Well it will be easy to prove now where the phone calls were intercepted. Lets say none of the calls that originated from Trump Tower were collected. Ok, probably no Trump Tower wiretap. But lets say all the calls originating from Trump Tower were collected and any that were from other locations were not. Then that tells me Trump Tower is the source, not a tap on the person on the other end.

    I am just glad the Dems/FBI/NSA now have things they need to look into instead of hiding behind their 'no evidence' claims. I think this leads at some point to Obama people before Congress and further investigation into the documents that Congressman Nunes was given. They will need to answer for the leaking, unmasking and decisions/approvals to disseminate this information. Also calls in to question the truthfulness of the FBI/NSA that something exists that they didnt tell us about and it was handled exactly opposite of how they said it was.

    All this, plus that Trump only feels 'somewhat vindicated' gives me speculation he also has his own evidence too. So lets see what happens, its not going to be solved in this forum anyway.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -6

    Blacklabel

    As far as the pizza shop, its strange that nearly everyone who called the pizza shop seemed to be under investigation? The Congressman said there were dozens of reports. At what point does that not make sense and you realize it is actually the shop being legally or illegally surveilled and not all the callers?

    You record both sides but you dont brief the US citizen side outside of your section. You dont create transcipts that allow the citizen to be identified and you dont brief the contents in the intel briefing attended by the outgoing administration. Trump now has given the information about what calls were captured. He obviously knows if these calls were made from Trump Tower or not.

    All of this goes against how the FBI and NSA claim this is to be handled. The tweets are now irrelevant, whether they were lies or just a wild guess doesnt matter. There is now substance that what was captured was not handled the way that was testified to Congress under oath.

    There now needs to be an investigation into why these calls were briefed and disseminated within the government when both the FBI and NSA agree that only would happen if they are were criminal or about Russia. Are you all ok with Obama and his administration knowing everything about everyone Trump and his team talked to and being able to use that information with impunity? Guess so, cause Obama and But Russia!

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  • -5

    Blacklabel

    If he picks up the phone and orders a pizza then the guy answering it at the pizza shop is on the recording. Does that mean the pizza shop can say that they under surveillance by Obama for regular business dealings not related to a crime?

    Ok lets use this. The pizza guy gets a call at his shop and talks with someone who is being investigated. Pizza shop guy claims that staff of or the the actual previous owner of the pizza shop is behind it and trying to use the information gathered to his detriment. Everyone immediate calls pizza shop owner a liar, no one is listening to your calls.

    But they fail to mention that someone IS listening to the calls of the people that called him. They also fail to mention that this information while non criminal in nature was briefed to the ex pizza shop owner and all his staff with his name attached to it. The same ex pizza shop owner who says he is going to resist everything you do and do everything he can to hurt you and your staff and obstruct your business. Yet the people who worked for the ex owner and listened to his calls can still claim he is lying about his calls being surveilled?

    Thats lame, we werent surveilling you, but only surveilling the person you were talking to. Fine, why was this briefed with my name on it and with my and my staff comments available for my enemies to read and take action during a transition period?

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -4

    Blacklabel

    Yes, I am satisfied with this as well. Now there is something to investigate rather than just people saying because the FBI Director and the NSA head said they have no evidence that nothing happened. There is now evidence to look into, and that evidence is much more than any evidence supporting Russian collusion, which is still none.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -6

    Blacklabel

    This was so much easier for you guys when there was no evidence and Trump could just be called a liar. Sure, you can hide behind the word wiretap if you need. But it doesnt change the fact that non criminal, non Russia related communications were briefed in intel briefs with names attached after Trump was elected.

    As far as the word wiretap itself and the claim of Trump Tower being wiretapped, Trump is a 70 year old non technical IT guy. All he knows is that someone has the contents of calls he or his staff made from Trump Tower. Change his tweet from wiretap to surveillance of calls made from Trump Tower *and change Obama to *Obama administration officials and now there is evidence of what he said happened. Now that evidence exists, we will actually have to look at the evidence, This will then show who ordered what, who approved it and who knew it but didnt reveal it to Congress.

    The collusion is totally separate issue and last i heard there was no evidence of that either.

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  • -7

    Blacklabel

    Did you guys watch what the congressman said??

    Unrelated to Russia. Unrelated to a criminal investigation. Normal everyday communications with foreign countries that a transition team of a newly elected president would have. How do I know? The person who read and reviewed the documents that FBI and NSA claimed don't exist told me.

    Hostile foreign agents? Sabotage? Collaborators? Nope, normal daily business unrelated to a criminal investigation or Russia. More to come on Friday unless the FBI director withholds info from Congress.

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  • -8

    Blacklabel

    Are we still going to split hairs and say he wasn't wiretapped. Ok since that's all you have left, he wasn't wirerapped. He was legally survellled, we think. Now need to check if paperwork for that exists or it becomes illegal. The information gained from that surveillance was misused and mishandled and disseminated to people who should not have had it even within the intel community.

    The point all along is the Obama and his team were collecting phone calls and sharing it through the government when it wasn't criminal or related to any investigation. This matches what Trump was saying while not specifically "wiretapping". It's surveillance, it's spying, its dirty tricks whatever you want to call it. It is against FISA protocols and against what FBI and NSA claim they do.

    Trump has the right to know what evidence exists. He can declassify any information he wants to prove it unless Obama Hawaii judge buddy cab block that presidential power too. When you guys thought no evidence you simply said Trump can order the person who has it to give it to him. What has changed?

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  • -8

    Blacklabel

    The key point was that the FBI director and head of NSA supposedly looked around and said no evidence. They also said information with no intelligence value (not criminal or unrelated to Russia) would not be disseminated down to intel reporting. Then even if it were for some reason the names would be masked.

    Yet this congressman just read intel not about Russia and lot about a crime that had people's name on it. These were briefed daily in the brief which Obama complained that he attends but that Trump did not. So when he saw this type of info he could have immediately stopped it and ordered non relevant info to not be briefed.

    So now that this appears to be a legal surveillance there is paperwork. Now we will know woo ordered it, who knew about it and who consumed it. Uh oh

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  • -7

    Blacklabel

    I see the defections have already started here.

    Until yesterday it was there is no evidence which means it didn't happen which was never true. There now IS evidence but everyone still want to talk about Russia or something unrelated about someone else.

    The man said this, that he saw evidence that communications related to Trump and his team unrelated to Russia or a criminal activity and with little to no intelligence value were included in daily intel reports during the transition. Names of those people talking were unmasked illegal. Where was everyone during the transition? Trump Tower.

    Obama people would have known all this exists as they are the consumers of these reports. So now Trump knows what Obama already knew so the playing field is level now and the no evidence claim is now proven untrue.

    Posted in: Spying claim by House intelligence committee chairman renews fight over Russia probe

  • -10

    Blacklabel

    The GOP decimates the working class by taking away their health care, education for their children, and the right to live in a safe environment.

    The only people who lost their healthcare so far are people who realized Obamacare priced them out of being to afford it, as insurers went from 3-5 choices to 1. Those people decided better to keep their money for any sicknesses rather than spend it for insurance coverage they cant even use at their preferred doctor. Liked your doctor? Well, too bad, sorry about that says Obama(care).

    Education lost? I am not aware of any kids not able to go to school. Even 18 year old illegal immigrant 'kids' can be in the same class as with 14 year old classmates (see what happened in Maryland because of that).

    Safe Environment? Is it the GOP that keeps blocking the ban that keeps people from countries that are state sponsors of terrorism? Countries that have been determined to be unable to tell us anything about the backgrounds of their own people? Is it the GOP that is allowing the release of criminal illegal immigrants who are caught? Same criminals who then murder and rape US citizens?

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